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  • in reply to: collected Goff material, early August, during camp #50094
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    Jared Goff will be Rams’ franchise quarterback — in time

    This is the best article IMO on why it might take time.

    At the same time, it leaves things out, such as mastering the techniques and timing and vision you need making 3, 5, and 7 step drops from under center, and also recognizing what (more complicated) pro defenses are doing.

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    in reply to: collected Goff material, early August, during camp #50093
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    Note–this is one of those rare articles where the quotations are fresh and are not just re-cycled from press conferences

    Jared Goff will be Rams’ franchise quarterback — in time

    Dan Graziano

    http://www.espn.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/29926/jared-goff-will-be-rams-franchise-quarterback-its-a-matter-of-when

    IRVINE, Calif. — After every play Jared Goff runs in Los Angeles Rams practice — good or bad, pass or run — someone goes up and talks to him. Sometimes it’s offensive coordinator Rob Boras. Sometimes it’s quarterbacks coach Chris Weinke. But after literally every single snap Goff took in practice Tuesday, a coach spoke with him.

    “We want to make sure that he’s seeing what we’re seeing and make sure he’s looking at the right things,” Weinke said. “So yeah, after every single play, that’s part of the learning curve — make sure you’re seeing what you’re supposed to see.”

    You can’t watch Goff practice without being impressed. He looks great. His footwork, whether it’s dropping back from under center or from the shotgun sets he ran exclusively in college, is sound. His arm strength is unquestionable. He’s a stellar athlete built for the position at 6-foot-4 and 215 pounds. You can see why the Rams traded up to draft him No. 1 overall.

    But after every single play, when you see how much teaching Goff’s coaches are doing, you also understand how far he has to go.

    “I’m asked all the time, ‘Is he going to start the opener?’ I don’t know,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “We drafted him. We traded up to draft him. He’s going to be our franchise quarterback. When he gets under center full-time, I don’t know when that is. And I’m not going to rush him to do it.”

    So what does Goff, who’s still taking second-team reps while incumbent Case Keenum takes the first-team reps, have to show the coaches to convince them he’s ready?

    “We are looking for him to continue to command the huddle — which he’s doing a hell of a job [at], so continue to command the huddle,” Weinke said. “Continue to make good decisions in the passing game and collectively understand all of our checks in the run game.”

    Not as simple as it sounds. Goff is working to master the protection schemes for which he didn’t have responsibility in college at Cal but does with the Rams. He’s working to learn the terminology of an offense that’s trying to fuse what Adam Gase ran in Denver and Chicago (passing game coordinator Mike Groh worked under Gase in Chicago) with the West Coast principles in which Boras was trained.

    “That’s going to be the biggest thing for him coming from his offense — coming up to the line of scrimmage with multiple things he’s responsible for,” Weinke said. “He hasn’t called a play in the huddle for three years, because [Cal’s] offense is called from the sideline. The growth in his ability to be able to call a play with confidence from OTAs to now is huge. And now, it’s his ability to understand our protections, make the adjustments and then, with time, he’s going to have a better understanding of where to throw the football.”

    With time. That’s the key. How much time, they won’t say. But watching Goff and talking to his coaches about him, you don’t get the feeling it’s going to be long.

    in reply to: 8/3 – tweets, vids, articles on the 8/3 practice #50089
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    Myles Simmons ‏@MylesASimmons
    With RT Rob Havenstein on PUP, Rodger Saffold has been in at RT, Cody Wichmann in at LG. Fisher said they like Saffold’s flexibility.

    Myles Simmons ‏@MylesASimmons
    Also a note on Pharoh Cooper inside. Hasn’t practiced last couple days with quad issue, but should be back over next few days.

    Vincent Bonsignore ‏@DailyNewsVinny
    Williams is big, physical target (needs to work on focus) Thomas is smooth, but maybe a bit of a development player

    in reply to: Tre Mason: reports on erratic behavior keep mounting up #50080
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    Rams RB Tre Mason admitted to hospital for evaluation in late July

    ESPN.com news services

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17208157/tre-mason-los-angeles-rams-admitted-evaluation-police-july-erratic-behavior

    Los Angeles Rams running back Tre Mason, from whom the team hasn’t heard despite multiple attempts to contact him, was “admitted for evaluation” to a hospital in late July after his mother called police in South Florida, saying Mason was acting strangely.

    According to a police report, Palm Beach County Sheriff’s officers arrived at his mother’s house in Lake Charleston, Florida, after Tina Mason called to report that Tre Mason was “acting unusual and making irrational statements.”

    Rams officials said Tuesday that they have tried several times to get in touch with Mason, who was arrested in March on charges of reckless driving, marijuana possession and resisting arrest. The team has been in contact with Mason’s family and his agent, Bus Cook, but has been unable to get answers about his condition or his whereabouts.

    According to the police report, Tre Mason told officers that “he was going to call the White House and we were all going to lose our jobs” and that “the police were responsible for teaching al-Qaida how to fly planes.”

    Police observed that a hole had been punched in the wall of Mason’s bedroom, and there was a broken vase and lamp in the room as well. Police determined that Mason wasn’t fit “to make decisions” for himself at the time, and he was taken to the hospital for a small laceration on his hand as well as observation.

    According to the report, Mason also applauded the officers, telling them that “he was used to being the entertainment for others, but now (officers) were his entertainment.”

    Rams RB Tre Mason, according to a Palm Beach County Sheriff’s report, told officers that “he was going to call the White House and we were all going to lose our jobs” and that “the police were responsible for teaching Al-Qaeda how to fly planes.” Ezra Shaw/Getty Images
    Rams tackle Greg Robinson has been in contact with Mason at some point during the offseason via text, but officials said that communication has been complicated because Mason has changed his cell phone number multiple times.

    “Right now, we’re more concerned with Tre Mason’s well-being than we are his football career,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher told reporters at Rams training camp over the weekend. “We’re going to continue to try to reach him to see where he’s at.”

    Officially, Mason is on the Rams’ reserve/did not report list, so he doesn’t count against their 90-man training camp roster.

    TMZ Sports first reported that Mason was admitted for evaluation by police.

    Police in Hollywood, Florida, said Mason refused orders to get out of his sports car on March 5, after he was pulled over for going twice the speed limit in a 35 mph zone. Officers said they used a stun gun on Mason twice.

    in reply to: camp reports for 8/2 #50078
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    I made it to Camp yesterday, but made it home a bit late to post here. I was able to record most of the 11-on-11 plays along with some 7-on-7. I will need to get help from some one on how to convert my iphone video to file that can be posted here.

    Things I noticed on 8/02 :

    – QB warm-ups ; watched Mannion and Goff play catch first at a 12 yard distance and then at a 25 yard distance. Mannion’s throws are direct, with a tight spiral. Goff’s throws have a little bit more Arc in them and are not as tight. …just something I noticed
    – Tavon was back with the group while Pharoh Cooper watched.
    – Punt return drills: Tavon and Chase Reynolds were doing something pretty cool….. they would hold a ball in their hands while waiting for the punted ball to arrived. As the punted ball got close, they would tooss the existing ball in the air, catch the punted ball, spin around and then catch the tossed ball. Reynolds was the only one who did it consistently. All the other guys couldn’t even get close.
    – Mike Thomas had a good day. He was in with the 2nd team and also got some snaps the 1’s. He caught just about everything thrown to him. He looks like he belongs.
    – For anyone that thinks Bradley Marquez may not make the team, a glimpse of this practice would definitely change their mind. He is getting to run with the 2’s and 1’s in 11-on-11 and the guy just makes plays.
    – Special teams: Punt team worked on directional punting…. left sideline vs right sideline……. Hecker had a couple of 65 yard kicks that were inpressive.
    – Offensive notes: Saw 2 new formations today ; first was 2 TE’s standing a few feet outside of the Tackles, not inline, with a receiver positioned a few feet to their outside shoulder. It looks like a “Bunch” formation with 1 RB. The second was a spread with 4 receivers to the Left side of the formation.
    – TE ; Justice Cunningham was targeted a couple of times to day and he made 2 nice catches. Did not see Hemmingway much. They have Higbee running short out routes and seam routes, straight up field.
    – Defense ; did not spend much time looking at the Defense, but I did notice that Nic Grigsby (rookie from Pitt) made 2 nice plays in the Passing game breaking up throws.
    – not much else to report due to holding the iphone and making video the entire afternoon.
    Anyopne that can suggest hoe to get my iphone video uploaded here would be greatly appreciated.

    I am now off to see this afternoon’s practice. I will try to just watch and make notes today.

    in reply to: Camp Report For 8/2 #50066
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    Thanks. I forgot how blue that scene is. I’m ok if its not appropriate to just redact it (but it does reflect my thinking on Case Keenum) : )

    We don’t have that problem here. Not with language in vids. If children read the board, we encourage them to speak that way (kidding ).

    The way the rules work, there are limits on direct obscenity so no porn, not that anyone would do that.

    But a scene from The Wire? It’s fine.

    Do you know the vid where someone took a clip from The Wire and added a laugh track?

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    Yeah, it really was supposed to be a pretty famous scene from The Wire where Stringer Bell describes something as a 40 degree day. It seemed appropriate when describing Keenum, but maybe its just my sense of humor. : )

    I will put it in.

    The way to post youtube vids is just to put the url in there without any additions. Just it by itself.

    in reply to: Isiah58 tweets & vids – some play by play from 8/2 camp #50059
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    Note that I had a brain cramp and kept calling Mike Thomas Mike “Williams”. Will adjust in the future.
    Isiah 58

    Do you want me to change it here via edit?

    in reply to: collected Goff material, early August, during camp #50052
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    Goff told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that shortly after the Rams picked him, he sought out Titans passer Marcus Mariota for advice. Mariota suggested Goff try an exercise in his downtime: Record himself saying a play call, play it back, diagram the play on a sheet of paper, and then visualize the progression

    Man I love this on so many levels. Not going to gush about it…but I am pleased.

    Wait till he tries it with the Rams O line and WRs that are last in the league.

    not feeling it? I don’t expect much until game 9

    Well there’s good reasons to feel that way. I don’t though. I get a different vibe.

    The OL is certainly going to be better than last year. IMO that is going to be a solid, deep unit.

    THe WRs? My bet is they will be better than last year. And a lot of it last year wasn’t the WRs, it was the qb (Foles). I don’t know HOW good the WRs will be this year, but, yeah I say expect better than last year.

    When Bradford came into the league, he had no weapons except Jackson and then just an emerging defense. It all fell apart in 2011. Goff, in contrast, has Gurley and Tavon and a real top caliber defense. He may have more than that, we’ll see.

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    I tried to channel my inner Jimmy Fadler by live tweeting some of the action. If you see some tweets by @LBRamsfan, that’s my twitter handle. If you are curious about some of the individual plays, I think you can find most of it there.

    I actually posted some of those, in the tweets/ etc for 8/2 thread. Well done!

    Very good report btw. Thanks, it’s a great pleasure reading them.

    Today I will go collect all the @LBRamsfan tweets and post them here.

    Tell me what the link in section 8 is supposed to be…I can help with that. When I tried to trace it I ended up with a youtube vid from The Wire. Not sure that was what you intended.

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    Vincent Bonsignore ‏@DailyNewsVinny
    From the keeping it real department: #Rams offense looking pretty good on 1st day in pads

    Vincent Bonsignore ‏@DailyNewsVinny
    Couple of #Rams observations: Goff was really, really good today. Tyler Higbee has a chance to make an impact as a rookie

    Vincent Bonsignore ‏@DailyNewsVinny
    Also, I talked to Duke Williams. He was beyond pissed at himself for the drops on Sunday, and it ate at him all day 1/2

    Vincent Bonsignore ‏@DailyNewsVinny
    2/2 Said he was committed to making an impact Monday and Tuesday and he absolutely did. Really liked how he responded to some adversity

    Vincent Bonsignore ‏@DailyNewsVinny
    3/3 Williams told me the rookie class is super tight and upfront and honest with each other. Seems like there’s accountability 3/4

    Vincent Bonsignore ‏@DailyNewsVinny
    4/4 Also he appreciates Tavon Austin taking him under his wing and showing him the way. My (personal note: Impressed w/Austin’s leadership)

    Vincent Bonsignore ‏@DailyNewsVinny
    Talked to Higbee too. He and Goff are roommates. He told me they stay up late after meetings quizzing each other/going over classroom info

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    The very late lily my wife says it is a Surprise Lily.
    lily

    Your image didn’t come through.

    Here’s another image of a Surprise Lily, which I assume is like what you wanted to post:

    in reply to: collected Goff material, early August, during camp #50022
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    They said the same thing about Sam Bradford.

    They tried to build around Bradford. He got injured.

    They’re adding Goff to a more developed team: “The one piece that we needed to stabilize our team was QB,” Snead told USA TODAY Sports before Sunday’s practice.

    That’s the key…they’re ADDING Goff to what is a more talented team. Goff and Bradford are very different kinds of qb talent btw.

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    Inside Training Camp: First Full Pads Practice

    Go inside day four of the LA Rams training camp with Rams insider, Myles Simmons.

    http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Inside-Training-Camp-First-Full-Pads-Practice/3b935e5a-a593-4699-a041-2c46a044f3b7

    in reply to: Court strikes down North Carolina voter ID law #49998
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    Courts are finally pointing out the racism behind voter ID laws

    Laws targeting minority voters are no different today than they were during Jim Crow.

    Washington Post

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/03/courts-are-finally-pointing-out-the-racism-behind-voter-id-laws/

    Last week, a federal appeals court struck down North Carolina’s omnibus voter suppression law — a law so jam-packed with voting restrictions targeted at poor, minority communities that its moniker was the “monster law.”

    The decision was handed down alongside a spate of other federal decisions in the past two weeks blocking voter restrictions and voter ID requirements in Wisconsin, Texas, North Dakota and Kansas. Some of these laws had been rushed through and passed following the U.S. Supreme Court’s devastating 2013 blow to the Voting Rights Act, which for 50 years had protected voters from discriminatory laws like poll taxes, literacy tests and the like.

    Congress has refused to do anything to restore the law’s protections, so litigation has remained the only real recourse for advocates trying to stop these voter suppression tactics more and more state legislatures have been adopting. Our organization, the Campaign Legal Center has been fighting the Texas voter ID law in court alongside several civil rights groups. And after tireless years of lawsuits, and millions of dollars shouldered by the victims of discrimination, advocates are finally achieving what they set out to do: Show that today’s cleverly masked voting laws — passed under false pretenses of stopping non-existent in-person voter fraud — are no different than the tactics used during the Jim Crow era to maintain white political power.

    In North Carolina, notably, the federal appeals court directly took on the underlying issue in voting rights today. The decision should be required reading for all state legislatures that are targeting black and Hispanic voters with onerous restrictions because of minority voters’ well-known propensity to vote for Democrats. Their goal is to protect their own political power, but the legislators’ method is racial discrimination.

    The 4th Circuit, in its decision last week, held that the North Carolina state legislature acted in order to entrench itself and “it did so by targeting voters who, based on race, were unlikely to vote for the majority party. Even if done for partisan ends, that constituted racial discrimination.”

    The court called this strategy what it is: racist. The panel wrote that “sing race as a proxy for party may be an effective way to win an election. But intentionally targeting a particular race’s access to the franchise because its members vote for a particular party, in a predictable manner, constitutes discriminatory purpose. This is so even absent any evidence of race-based hatred and despite the obvious political dynamics.”

    But outside of the courts, the public discussion around these laws has focused on politics, not race. After all, the partisan motive of the recent wave of voter restrictions is a poorly kept secret. Several legislators, such as Pennsylvania House Speaker Mike Turzai and Wisconsin Rep. Glenn Grothman, have slipped from the usual Republican line that voter ID laws are about preventing voter fraud and acknowledged that the goal is to give the GOP an edge on Election Day. But given the demographic patterns of who votes for which party, the easiest way for them to gain that edge is by putting bureaucratic hurdles in place that make it harder for poor and elderly minority voters to cast ballots. Thus, race and politics are necessarily intertwined.

    This racial strategy is just barely below the surface of many of these laws — they pick and choosing voting restrictions that benefit whites while harming blacks and other minorities.

    In North Carolina, the legislature requested racial data on the use of electoral mechanisms, then restricted all those disproportionately used by blacks, such as early voting, same day registration and out-of-precinct voting. Absentee ballots, disproportionately used by white voters, were exempted from the voter ID requirement. The legislative record actually justified the elimination of one of the two days of Sunday voting because “counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black” and “disproportionately Democratic.”

    The documents acceptable for proving voters’ identity in North Carolina were the ones disproportionately held by whites, such as driver’s licenses, U.S. passports and veteran and military IDs, and the ones that were left out were the ones often held by poor minority voters, such as student IDs, government employee IDs and public assistance IDs. The Texas voter ID law was designed the same way: There, officials accepted concealed weapon licenses but not student or state employee IDs. The Texas Legislature was repeatedly advised of the likely effect on minority voters but rebuffed nearly all amendments that would have eased its harsh impact.

    Because of the strong link between race and party, some defenders of the laws have argued that the restrictions are nothing but “politics as usual” — that they’re not motivated by racial animus and are therefore lawful. For example, 5th Circuit Judge Edith Jones, dissenting in the Texas voter ID decision, wrote: “The law reflects party politics, not racism, and the majority of this court — in their hearts—know this.”

    In North Carolina’s legislature, Republican senators vigorously denied that the law was racially discriminatory. But at the same time, they admitted that the bill rolled back voting expansions that, they believed, “Democrats passed to favor themselves.” In other words, Republicans admitted that they wanted to limit how easy it is for people to vote because more access to the ballot box for black voters is bad for GOP candidates. The district court judge in the North Carolina case, who originally upheld the “monster law,” apparently held the same view; his opinion noted that the law largely removed voting expansions passed by Democrats when they controlled the legislature.

    Lawmakers often use this “politics, not racism” line in redistricting cases, as well. In the recent past, Republican legislatures have packed black voters at unnecessarily high levels into a few districts, hoping to limit black voters’ impact on the partisan balance in the rest of the state. When challenged, they claim politics made them do it.

    In Virginia, a three-judge federal court held that legislators racially gerrymandered Democratic Rep. Bobby Scott’s district, purposefully packing far more blacks into it than necessary. On appeal to the Supreme Court, prominent conservative lawyer Mike Carvin argued repeatedly that the legislators packed black voters for partisan reasons, not racial ones, as if that makes a difference.

    But for the hundreds of thousands of black voters harmed by these discriminatory laws, the effect is the same, whether they were singled out as black voters to reduce their power at the ballot box because of direct racial animus or partisan objectives. No doubt many Southern politicians supported Jim Crow before the civil rights movement as much because restrictions on black voters helped them stay in power as because of any personal racism. The intent and the effect is the same: purposeful suppression of black voters’ rights.

    On the same day as the North Carolina decision, a Wisconsin federal court echoed this exact point. The court struck down restrictions on in-person absentee voting hours that were aimed specifically at limiting voting access in Milwaukee because of its large black population. The court wrote: “Republicans sought to maintain control of the state government. But the methods that the legislature chose to achieve that result involved suppressing the votes of Milwaukee’s residents, who are disproportionately African American and Latino. . . . [T]hat, too, constitutes race discrimination.”

    Exclude minority voters because they tend to vote for one party over another is nothing more than an attempt to remove minority voices from vital policy debates and avoid addressing the political needs and demands of those communities. With this recent wave of court decisions, federal judges, at long last, have signaled a strong message to states: Seeking to target black and other minority voters for exclusion, regardless of motive, is unconstitutional and undemocratic, and it will not be tolerated. In order to survive judicial scrutiny, state legislatures should now understand that they must consider and respond to the needs of our most vulnerable voters when crafting electoral procedures. This should foster more participation in politics at a time when voter apathy is high. That’s good news for our democracy.

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    zn, how did you ‘plan’ that garden? I mean did you read magazines, plan it out on paper, think about sizes, shapes, colors? did you make a chart or a map first?

    No annuals? Why do you hate impatiens ?

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    There’s some annuals scattered in there. How did I plan the garden? Trial and error. I had a “feel” for what I wanted (not geometric formal, for example, more impressionist era cottage garden). I focused on plants I always liked, then, figured out what goes with them. Aiming at a time when it comes together (I don’t have spring flowers, just mid-late summer plus autumn.) Massing things then putting little variations around the massed stuff. Generally big gardens aren’t that hard cause the bigger, taller plants go in back and the smaller ones in front.

    You don’t need magazines or books etc. nowadays because there are so many online resources. For example, you think about a certain plant, and you need all the specs, and some idea of what goes with it. There are places that do all that for you. For example take in this whole page (scrolling down) and see how much info it offers:

    http://www.perennialresource.com/encyclopedia/view/?plant=780

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    In Jared Goff, Rams see a centerpiece for a contender

    Lorenzo Reyes, USA TODAY

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2016/08/01/jared-goff-los-angeles-rams-jeff-fisher/87921544/

    IRVINE, Calif. – When Jeff Fisher is done with all his work, when he leaves the temporary and transitional training camp facility the Los Angeles Rams have at the University of California, Irvine, he goes home and sleeps on an air mattress.

    The head coach overseeing the franchise’s relocation to Southern California has sacrificed elements of his own move. So when the bed is deflated from the previous night’s sleep, he fires up the air pump and fills it up again.

    He doesn’t have the time, he said, to secure fancier accommodations.

    “I’m as settled as I possibly could be,” Fisher told USA TODAY Sports Sunday evening after the Rams’ practice. “I’ve got bigger things to worry about.”

    At the top of that list is ensuring that quarterback Jared Goff, the No. 1 overall pick, proves them right.

    Fisher and Rams general manager Les Snead shipped a haul of draft picks (Nos. 15, 43, 45, 76 in 2016 and first- and third-round selections in 2017) to the Tennessee Titans for the rights to pick the passer of their choosing. Now, the job security of both men rests in Goff’s selection – and his eventual appointment as the team’s starter.

    “The one piece that we needed to stabilize our team was QB,” Snead told USA TODAY Sports before Sunday’s practice. “It’s a risk, I agree, but this was the time. It was one we needed to take.”

    The way they see it, Fisher and Snead have amassed a solid group of young talent. They have beaten teams like the perennial powerhouse Seattle Seahawks, Andrew Luck and the Indianapolis Colts, Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos, and have posted a winning record in one of the toughest divisions in football in two of four seasons.

    But they lacked consistency – something they think they can now get.

    “What I like is that we have proven we can be competitive,” Snead said. “Now they’re tired being competitive. It’s time to go be contenders. We’re in that phase now. And then the next phase will be winning playoff games.

    “We felt that when you look at the 30,000-foot view, yes, with all the pieces we gave up (in the trade for the No. 1 pick), we could have added good-to-very-good football players. But maybe we would still be doing the same thing – competing, but not quite contending – because of the instability at QB.”

    In that hypothetical, that’s probably the best-case scenario.

    With a 27-36-1 record in their four-year tenure with the Rams, Snead and Fisher knew they needed to produce more victories. Drafting a franchise quarterback, they believed, was the quickest way to do that.

    That’s why in the days after the Rams completed the trade with the Titans, they rapidly set up workouts with both Goff and eventual No. 2 pick Carson Wentz. The Rams needed to do their homework. And the more and more they heard about Goff, the more they felt at ease with the decision to take him.

    “We thought the guy was one of the best passers of the football that has come out in a while,” Snead said.

    Goff told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that shortly after the Rams picked him, he sought out Titans passer Marcus Mariota for advice. Mariota suggested Goff try an exercise in his downtime: Record himself saying a play call, play it back, diagram the play on a sheet of paper, and then visualize the progression.

    It’s something Goff says is already sharpening his understanding of the offense.

    “We were aware of those things before we took him,” Fisher said. “We were aware that he was going to do the extra. He has always done that. He was always very, very competitive and committed. Those things don’t surprise us at all.”

    Added Snead: “That’s how greatness is built.”

    That’s why Fisher and Snead are at peace.

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    Keenum impresses during first day of full pads

    http://www.vcstar.com/sports/keenum-impresses-during-first-day-of-pads-391e0d61-0431-28fd-e053-0100007f8e3d-389022031.html

    KIRBY LEE/USA TODAY SPORTS Case Keenum showed he can handle being the No. 1 quarterback during the Rams’ first full day of pads Tuesday at UC Irvine.

    By Joe Curley of the Ventura County Star

    IRVINE — The Los Angeles Rams decided Jared Goff is their future at the quarterback position back in April.

    But is he their present? That’s one of the biggest questions during the team’s first training camp in Southern California since 1994.

    Case Keenum officially began the camp at UC Irvine atop the depth chart and he looked like he belonged there Tuesday, when the team had the season’s first full practice in pads.

    “He’s handled it great,” head coach Jeff Fisher said of Keenum. “He has a great feel for it. Understands the offense, great in the huddle. He does all those little, extra, subtle things that you need to do as a quarterback.”

    Keenum hit Tavon Austin for a big play on the first snap of the team period and that success continued against the Rams’ talented defense throughout the afternoon.

    “I’m doing my job and when I’m at quarterback, I’m running the show,” Keenum said. “That’s how I play quarterback. It’s my huddle. It’s my squad. It’s my offense and I’m taking ownership of it. … That’s how I play quarterback, so that’s what I do. I expect other guys to do the same thing when they’re in the game.”

    The offense’s aerial show was eye-opening, considering the Rams are coming off a season in which they were last in the NFL in passing and the defense had the upper hand throughout OTAs in Oxnard.

    Fisher said there was good reason for the offense’s surge Tuesday.

    “The defense clearly has an advantage without the pads,” Fisher said. “It’s hard for the offensive guy to anchor and pass protect and all that.

    “All of a sudden, today the pads went on and the quarterback got a little more time, steps up in the pocket and makes the big throw down the field. It was real football today.”

    Keenum wasn’t the only quarterback to shine Tuesday. Goff and third-string quarterback Sean Mannion had their moments.

    Goff fired down a seam to find Westlake High product Nelson Spruce for a 40-yard gain, drawing a huge cheer from the 2,214 in attendance.

    “We started fast, which I think was a big thing,” Spruce said. “We hit Tavon on a pretty big play to start and from that point, I feel like we had a lot of energy. That kind of got us going. We were making a lot of plays as a group.”

    SPRUCE GOOSED

    Spruce, the undrafted free agent receiver from Westlake High and Colorado, followed up his strong performance during OTAs in Oxnard with a strong start to training camp.

    He beat veteran Coty Sensabaugh for a touchdown during one-on-ones and was in the end zone a couple times during the team and red-zone periods.

    But he also caught a few shots as well as somepasses.

    “It’s been good,” Spruce said. “It’s good to get the pads back on. I took my first few hits today. I haven’t gotten hit like that in a while, so it felt kind of good to get back into it with the pads.”

    Spruce was smacked twice down the middle while he was trying to score on the goal line and also took a shot in a special-teams drill.

    “When I caught a couple down on the goal line, I just remember turning around and I think Mo Alexander got me one time and a linebacker got me another time,” Spruce said. “Then Cory Harkey popped me once in special teams.”

    BACK IN PADS

    It was an emotional practice for Newbury Park resident Jamon Brown.

    The second-year offensive guard strapped on the pads for the first time since breaking his leg in a loss to Chicago on Nov. 15 in St. Louis.

    “For me, obviously my emotions were high,” Brown said. “But the team, everybody is coming out with that working mentality. And this camp has been, I think, is a step forward for the team going into the season.”

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    Practice Report 8/2 – Offense Finds a Rhythm in Pads

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Practice-Report-82—Offense-Finds-a-Rhythm-in-Pads/0e575fc9-103e-4e8f-849d-d8f2e2a56815

    The Rams took another step in their preparation for the 2016 season, going through their first full practice with pads.

    Monday’s special teams-only session gave a little taste of what was to come, but Los Angeles had a spirited practice in front of another nice crowd on Tuesday — this time with popping pads.

    While head coach Jeff Fisher put the club in a number of different situations, the offense seemed to get the better of the defense in just about all of them on this particular day.

    “As you see, we added another phase. We moved into the red zone today and the offense made a lot of plays, a lot of good throws, a lot of good catches,” Fisher said. “We had a lot of good work in the special teams period and got a lot of work just throwing the ball into tight areas in the red zone, which is hard. I thought all of the quarterbacks did a nice job today.”

    Indeed, whether it was in two-on-one drills with QBs and wideouts vs. cornerbacks, 7-on-7, or 11-on-11 the offense was consistent in making plays.

    “Everybody was just playing sound football today,” wide receiver Tavon Austin said. “Everybody did what they were supposed to do — nobody was extra. Our energy level was up.”

    “I think we just came out and competed and we had guys knowing their responsibilities. I think we worked with good tempo,” quarterback Case Keenum said. “It was a good day for us — a good day to build on. I think we set the bar and I want to get better tomorrow.”

    Keenum and wide receiver Kenny Britt connected on a number of passes, displaying their running chemistry that dates back to last season. Britt caught a pass of at least 25 yards from Keenum in each of the Rams’ final four games, two of which went for touchdowns.

    “Obviously, you feed off of good plays — great plays. I think they like it when you throw them touchdowns. I like it when they catch touchdowns and get open,” Keenum said. “So I think that sort of stuff builds camaraderie and … chemistry between receivers and quarterbacks.”

    Keenum also had some nice throws to Austin and Brian Quick, showing good command of the first unit.

    But rookie Jared Goff had a strong day with the second unit, too, displaying many of the traits that induced L.A. to trade up to No. 1 for him.

    “I thought he did well. He made some really good throws — a couple, the balls should have been caught,” Fisher said. “I thought he was making really good decisions. We had a little bit of noise the last period, so they had to focus in the huddle and I thought he took charge of it. He’s progressing well.”

    Fellow rookie Mike Thomas was on the receiving end of a good number of Goff’s passes, and did well to reel in the vast majority of them. But the Cal product’s best throw of the day may have been when he uncorked a ball down the right seam to undrafted WR Nelson Spruce, who ran it in for a touchdown. Spruce is another player receiver who always seems to catch the ball when it’s in his orbit.

    With so many receivers competing for a roster spot, Austin described the vibe in the position’s room as competitive, but in the best way possible.

    “One thing I like about all of us — all of us look at it like we’re brothers,” Austin said. “Nobody is ever hating on each other. We’re always motivating the next person — especially me. I’m always motivating the next person to get better, because that’s only going to up my game.”

    And so while the offense looked sharp on Tuesday, Fisher said the unit better come with it on Wednesday.

    “I’m expecting the defense to answer a little bit tomorrow,” the head coach said. “The offense is probably going to need to strap it up a little bit tomorrow. It was a good day overall.”

    EXTRA POINTS

    — Rookie wide receiver Pharoh Cooper has not practiced for the last couple of days, but Fisher said he should return to the practice field soon. 


    “He’s got a little thing going in his quad,” Fisher said. “You push through it, it may be two weeks, [but] if you back him off, it might be a couple days. That’s what we’ve got going there. He’ll be fine.”

    — After a back injury prematurely ended Robert Quinn’s 2015 season, the defensive end spent most of OTAs doing rehab work on the side. He did participate in some parts of individual drills for the D-line, but did not venture into the 11-on-11 sessions.

    Now Quinn has been getting some snaps during team drills — but not too many.

    “That was not an easy thing that he went through last year,” Fisher said. “A lot of hard work during the offseason, step-by-step-by-step to where we are right now.

    “He’s 100 percent, but it doesn’t make sense – when you have a racehorse like that, you have got to watch him,” Fisher continued. “We’re going to watch him, his reps aren’t, probably aren’t up, to where he normally would be, but he’ll get there. It just makes sense just to protect him.”

    Fisher added Quinn will likely see some snaps in preseason games. But, as it is every year with proven veterans such as Quinn, even if he’s in, he won’t play too much.

    — After a tough practice on Sunday, wide receiver Duke Williams has put together a nice two-practice string over the last two days. Fisher said Williams has done a lot of work since the offseason program to get to this point.

    “Duke came in, knew he had a once in a lifetime opportunity based on some of the things that happened in his history,” the head coach said. “We gave him that opportunity and he took advantage of it. Went off in the summer and came back, took a lot of weight off and he’s doing well.”

    — Finally, the Rams signed two wide receivers to boost depth at the position — Austin Hill and David Richards. Both wideouts played their college ball at Arizona.

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    If it wasn’t for our grand children we probably would live in Maine. The brief time we spent with you in Portland was really great. You have something there called “weather”. I love “weather”. Here its sunny 365.

    I know, I lived in Cal for a bit. Some of it was up north in SF (north beach). Some of it was in Claremont. Some of it was in San Diego. THe bits in Claremont and SD….no weather.

    Here’s a pic of the street where we 3 had dinner btw.

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    I fixed the last one.

    So I merged that thread with this one.

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    “…where it rains”

    What’s that?

    “Rain” is the process through which plants water themselves by sucking moisture out of the air in the form of falling droplets. It’s like taking a shower, but outside, and unheated. You would think it would be expensive, but it’s not…it’s free.

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    Can’t seem to post the article.

    Meg Whitman, Calling Donald Trump a ‘Demagogue,’ Will Support Hillary Clinton for President

    link: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/politics/meg-whitman-hillary-clinton.html

    Meg Whitman, a Hewlett Packard executive and Republican fund-raiser, said Tuesday that she would support Hillary Clinton for president and give a “substantial” contribution to her campaign in order to stop Donald J. Trump, whom she berated as a threat to American democracy.

    “I will vote for Hillary, I will talk to my Republican friends about helping her, and I will donate to her campaign and try to raise money for her,” Ms. Whitman said in a telephone interview.

    She revealed that Mrs. Clinton, the Democratic nominee, had reached out to her in a phone call about a month ago, one of the first indications that Mrs. Clinton is aggressively courting Republican leaders. While acknowledging she diverged from Mrs. Clinton on many policy issues, Ms. Whitman said it was time for Republicans “to put country first before party.”

    Using remarkably blunt language, she argued that the election of Mr. Trump, whom she called “a dishonest demagogue,” could lead the country “on a very dangerous journey.” She noted that democracies had seldom lasted longer than a few hundred years and warned that those who say that “it can’t happen here” are being naïve.

    Ms. Whitman also said she “absolutely” stood by her comments at a private gathering of Republican donors this year comparing Mr. Trump to Hitler and Mussolini, explaining that dictators often come to office through democratic means.

    “Time and again history has shown that when demagogues have gotten power or come close to getting power, it usually does not end well,” Ms. Whitman said. She asserted that Mr. Trump had already “undermined the character of the nation.”

    A billionaire who spent $140 million of her own money in a failed bid for governor of California in 2010, Ms. Whitman, the former chief executive of eBay, is a prized defector for Mrs. Clinton. She is close to Mitt Romney, the 2012 Republican nominee; has deep ties to the country’s business elite; and is a rare female Republican executive in Silicon Valley.

    While many leading Republican donors have made clear that they will not donate to Mr. Trump, few have taken the next step of throwing their support, and financial largess, to Mrs. Clinton.

    Ms. Whitman was a leading fund-raiser for Mr. Romney’s 2008 presidential campaign and was a chairwoman of Gov. Chris Christie’s presidential finance team this year. But after Mr. Christie withdrew from the campaign and endorsed Mr. Trump, Ms. Whitman excoriated the New Jersey governor for what she said was an “astonishing display of political opportunism.”

    On Tuesday, Ms. Whitman said she had not spoken to Mr. Christie since he endorsed Mr. Trump, and pointedly noted that she had not changed her view of his decision.

    Ms. Whitman, who said she would remain a Republican, brings with her a considerable network of contributors, some of whom she said were open to giving to Mrs. Clinton. She said she was willing to campaign for Mrs. Clinton, said she would do her best to gather checks for her campaign and indicated she would personally give to both Mrs. Clinton and her affiliated “super PACs.” An aide to Ms. Whitman said she would personally give at least an amount in the “mid-six figures” to the Clinton effort.

    While Democrats openly appealed at their convention last week to Republicans uneasy with Mr. Trump, Mrs. Clinton and her top supporters have been making a similar cross-party pitch in private since before the Democratic nomination fight even came to its conclusion.

    Ms. Whitman said that she did not commit to supporting Mrs. Clinton when they talked on the phone last month, and that Mrs. Clinton had offered no assurances on how she would govern. But Ms. Whitman called it “a lovely chat” that included a discussion of economic issues.

    She said she had told Mrs. Clinton that she wanted to see the two parties’ conventions and assess the running mates that each nominee chose before making her decision. When Mrs. Clinton selected Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia, a consensus-oriented figure, “that was a positive for me,” Ms. Whitman said.

    “I don’t agree with her on very many issues,” she added, “but she would be a much better president than Donald Trump.”

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    Is the quarterback competition in Denver closer than it should be? John Clayton answers…

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    Rams cornerback Trumaine Johnson playing for this season – and next

    Trumaine Johnson is the Rams’ highest-paid player and most experienced defensive back. After the Rams used their ‘franchise tag’ on him, he hopes his performance this season leads to a blockbuster deal next year.

    RICH HAMMOND

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/johnson-724288-rams-first.html

    IRVINE – Trumaine Johnson glanced skyward after he completed the third practice of his fifth NFL training camp. On a warm Monday late morning, the wise pro sought out a shady spot for an interview.

    “Big vet, huh?” Johnson said with a grin. “I guess you could say that. I still feel young, though.”

    Johnson is 26, and his career with the Rams has included a steady progression, then one big leap out of the shade and into the spotlight. Johnson is the Rams’ highest-paid player and most experienced defensive back, and is poised to parlay what could be an awkward season into a blockbuster contract.

    The Rams used their “franchise player” tag on Johnson, who otherwise would have become a free agent in March, and retained him for the 2016 season but failed to lock him up with a long-term extension.

    So, Johnson will make $13.95 million this season, the team’s largest contract in terms of guaranteed money and salary-cap figure. That’s no small thing, but Johnson also enters this season with uncertainty. The Rams had hoped to sign him to an extension, but now he could become a free agent next summer.

    “Of course I was thinking about it, but I’m blessed either way,” Johnson said. “For them to (franchise) tag me, it talks volumes, but this is my main focus right now, and I’ll wait until the year is over to handle everything else.”

    Johnson, a third-round draft pick in 2012, was a part-time starter during his first three seasons but took a major step in 2015 when expected cornerback starter E.J. Gaines suffered a season-ending foot injury in training camp.

    Johnson had seven interceptions and was considered a more consistent performer than Janoris Jenkins, who left the Rams in March and signed a five-year, $62.5 million contract with the New York Giants.

    At this point, Johnson isn’t thinking about leaving Los Angeles. He’s set to start opposite either Gaines, Coty Sensabaugh or Lamarcus Joyner, and his first week of training camp at UC Irvine has included family members who traveled down from Johnson’s native Stockton.

    “We had 10,000 fans out here the first day,” Johnson said. “To come out here and hear them cheering, it’s a blessing.”

    SALUTE TO FRIEND

    If you’re having trouble finding Johnny Hekker at UC Irvine, it’s because he’s wearing a different number.

    The Rams’ punter is temporarily donning No. 3 – replacing his usual No. 6 – during training camp to honor his friend Mike Sadler, the former Michigan State punter who died less than two weeks ago.

    “Brilliant, brilliant kid,” Hekker said. “It was cut short, but he lived a hell of a life when he was alive.”

    Sadler, who was the first four-time Academic All-American in Spartans history, died in a July 23 car crash. With him were Nebraska punter Sam Foltz – who also died at the scene – and LSU punter Colby Delahoussaye, who crawled out of the burning car and survived.

    The news rippled through the punter fraternity, a community knit together by various camps and clinics. Hekker and Sadler first crossed paths more than five years ago in Prattville, Ala. The former was already a Ray Guy semifinalist at Oregon State, but the latter was just heading into his freshman year at Michigan State.

    “Just the kind of guy that could light up a room,” Hekker said. “Really didn’t take himself too seriously, but was a hard-working dude.”

    SPECIAL DAY

    Three days into training camp, the Rams put on full pads for the first time, albeit only for a one-hour special teams practice that didn’t include many of the highest-profile players.

    It did include some spirited, physical drills, and it included receiver/kick returner Tavon Austin, who had to leave Sunday’s practice because of apparent cramping. Austin said he ran out of time to eat lunch before practice but said he felt fine Monday.

    “That won’t happen again,” Austin said.

    The special-teams practice included a large number of rookies who might be fighting for roster spots. Standouts included tight end Tyler Higbee, who probably has a secure spot, and receiver Duke Williams, who struggled with dropped passes in the first two practices.

    “If it’s a toss-up at a certain position, offensive or defensively, then the trump card is special teams,” special teams coach John Fassel said.

    The Rams resume full-team practice – in full pads for the first time – Tuesday at 3:30 p.m. at UC Irvine, and that session is open to the public.

    Staff writer Jack Wang contributed to this report.

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    The two teams the Rams discussed a potential Nick Foles trade with before the draft were Buffalo and Dallas, which now needs a backup QB.

    Cowboys backup QB breaks ankle in practice

    http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/57738/Cowboys-backup-QB-breaks-ankle-in-practice/Default.aspx

    Dallas Cowboys backup quarterback Kellen Moore was carted off the field at practice today.

    Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said the preliminary diagnosis was Moore suffered a broken right leg/ankle, Todd Archer of ESPN Dallas reports. He was unsure of the timeframe involved in a recovery or if Moore would need surgery.

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    Mannion to Duke Williams on a screen. That is a large human. #RamsCamp

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    Greg Williams after a stop for no gain: “nowhere to run, nowhere to hide!” #RamsCamp

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    Trumaine with a nice break up on Britt at the goal line #RamsCamp

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    Goff in a rhythm hits Harkey over the middle #RamsCamp

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    Nice protection for Keenum, who hit his third option for first down #RamsCamp

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    Back to 11 on 11. Donald blows up Gurley in the backfield #RamsCamp

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    Warner on Donald: ‘This guy is a rocket coming off the ball’

    NFL Media’s Andrew Siciliano and Kurt Warner break down the impact Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald has on opposing offenses and what to watch from him in 2016.

    http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Warner-on-Donald-This-guy-is-a-rocket-coming-off-the-ball/3f12af4f-5e8a-4df1-9cbe-4bbbbc2f72a1

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    A FEW HIGHLIGHTS:

    Marquez won’t get beat out by Cooper; Quick won’t get beat out by Thomas

    keep an eye out for Maurice Alexander, the Eureka High product out of St. Louis who once worked as a janitor at the Edward Jones Dome. Alexander is fast and physical, his frame reminds you of Kam Chancellor. The game is still new to him particularly at the safety level. (He’s a converted college linebacker.) So he’s still learning and seeing things he hasn’t seen before. But he was working with the starters at free safety during my weekend in LA, and I get the feeling that’s the way the coaches think it will end up.

    I think Battle is viewed as a player with a lot of catching up to do. He has been working at right tackle in training camp, and although I wasn’t at OTAs I was told that was the case then as well. He was working with the second unit at RT over the weekend behind Saffold (and remember, without Havenstein).

    I think the Rams have offered Austin a new contract.

    The fans [in LA] were great. I talked to dozens over the weekend, some have been following the team through the Post-Dispatch and stltoday.com for years. Many _ not all, but many _ feel bad for the fans in St. Louis. They went through basically the same thing 21 years ago. I posed for many pictures, and believe it or not signed a few autographs. I always put #431 next to my name, representing the number of games (preseason, regular season, postseason) played by the Rams in St. Louis.

    I don’t regard PFF as the end-all, be-all in player evaluations. In football, the further you get away from team analysis and lean to individual analysis, the more likely you are to be inaccurate when it comes to analytics. Just my opinion.

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