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Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
A second consecutive DNP for left tackle Alaric Jackson (foot). McVay’s next updates are Friday.znModeratorPFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
Kevin Dotson among guards over the past two weeks:🐏 92.2 PFF grade (2nd)
🐏 91.6 run-blocking grade (2nd)
🐏 82.7 pass-blocking grade (10th)
🐏 69 pass-blocking snaps
🐏 0 pressures allowedznModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Tyler Higbee is back at practice and got some individual reps with Stetson Bennett, who has picked up any and all extra arm work during practice and before games for Rams this year while Stafford and backup Jimmy G work with the first team and scout team, respectively.znModeratorDid he practice without one?
I think Jourdan is saying Jackson injured his foot in order to practice.
November 27, 2024 at 10:50 pm in reply to: Rams injuries & roster stuff, for week 13/game 12 #153541znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue @jourdanrodrigue.bsky.social
Rams LT Alaric Jackson did not practice today with a foot injury.znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Sean McVay said that the team won’t suspend Demarcus Robinson this week. Legal process + league process will still unfold. Robinson addressed the team in meetings. McVay called Robinson a good person who made a bad decision and who understands the severity of that.znModeratorBlaine Grisak @bgrisaktst.bsky.social
Rams kicker Joshua Karty has missed 5 FGs this season. Notice a trend with these kicks? Three of them came from the left hash. Context for his misses:– One bad hold (@ CHI)
– One bad miss (vs. LVR)
– THREE misses from the left hash (vs. MIA, @ NE, vs. PHI)znModeratorSeattle pressured Kyler Murray on 43% (!) of dropbacks without cranking up the blitz. Talked on the pod about how they did it, and one of the best performances by a D-linemen I’ve seen all year. 🎧: tinyurl.com/457puezn 📺: youtu.be/awFC12bgUfI?…
— Mina Kimes (@minakimes.bsky.social) 2024-11-26T23:22:29.396Z
znModeratorEast Coast Rams @eastcoastrams.bsky.social
Kyren Williams ranks second in rushing attempts leading to a 1st down. Only behind Derek Henry and leading Saquon Barkley.While Kyren Williams does indeed have a fumble problem, he’s still very productive ranking 6th amongst RBs in rushing yards for the season and 8th in TDs.
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Same play but left edge Verse gets his head outside on tackle trapping him , uses strength to get off #68
Fiske penetrates.
So, if htey can do it on only play, they should be able to do it most plays. No one expects perfection but when they lost gap assigmnets it cost them pic.twitter.com/5YQs5Z6GLz
— Jim Youngblood 53 (@53_jim70721) November 26, 2024
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPR
WR Cooper Kupp (@CooperKupp) is one of four players with one or fewer drops on 75-or-more targets this season (Amon-Ra St. Brown, Trey McBride and Jakobi Meyers).znModeratorJim Youngblood 53@53_jim70721
Eagles gained 120 yards rushing against stacked boxes
about the same against light boxesdisaster
First and foremost, not having Donald is huge.
In my opinion it’s mostly mistakes. On some plays one error by one guy can be a disaster.
All I really know is they are *trying* to stop the run but using heavier boxes, i.e. having a safety in the box, but there have been mistakes
znModeratorThought this was a great play-call by McVay. Double motion, play-action, selling the look of an outside zone run. DL and LB’s flow with it.
Puka releases underneath to the opposite side. Easy explosive. Quick passes/misdirection negate pressure and take stress off the OL. pic.twitter.com/pnwFdEBfPS
— Rams Bros. (@RamsBrothers) November 26, 2024
znModeratorSarah Barshop@sarahbarshop
Sean McVay: “I do believe that Demarcus [Robinson] has a good heart and never would have any ill intentions. And clearly there was a decision that’s not in alignment with the things that we want to be about. I know he was remorseful about that.”“I don’t think this makes him a horrible human. I think he made a bad decision and I think we are fortunate that there … wasn’t anything else that occurred as it relates to affecting anybody else in a negative way or himself from just an overall safety and health perspective.”
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Sean McVay says the Rams are in the process of gathering information about Demarcus Robinson’s arrest and release on suspicion of driving under the influence on Monday. He has not made a decision about Robinson’s status but expects to over the next day or so.znModeratorWhat was so disappointing in yesterday’s game is how many players who had flashed good stuff before just got flat beat yesterday.
That includes
Speights
Verse
Jackson
Avila
WilliamsPlus they basically shut down Kupp.
Yet in the middle of that, Stafford battled on.
Even though he was sacked 5 times he was 21 of 37 for 243 yards with 2 TDs and a 92.4 qb rating.
Though…they were 0-8 on 3rd down.
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5945982/2024/11/25/rams-lose-eagles-matthew-stafford-saquon-barkley/?source=emp_shared_article
They were overmatched player to player, but the counters and adjustments + the relatively simple yet very effective way the pressure was schemed is a trademark of the battle within the battle here and McVay knows it. They were totally throttled by a couple adjustments after one promising drive. Rich history here as you know that I personally don’t feel is overplayed in knowing the characters involved, but obviously [it was] a pure ass kicking by simply a better, more physical team.
Protection issues were absolutely critical!
I’m not saying the DC and the DC alone was the game changer I’m just pointing out a very mentally significant layer to this that adds to the sting of an ass kicking and hopefully [a reminder] that you can do whatever to try to beat the top teams schematically but if you can’t protect QB or stop the run you have nothing.
znModeratorRams can’t run with the big-time postseason teams if they can get run over
Jourdan Rodrigue
INGLEWOOD, Calif. — Seasons change, rosters change, coaching staffs change and even quarterbacks change.
If you’re Sean McVay and the Los Angeles Rams, one thing remains a hard truth: Vic Fangio is the Grim Reaper (the scheme reaper?). His ascending Philadelphia Eagles defense mostly handled the Rams’ offense with ease, a throwback to a painful memory in McVay’s mind when Fangio set the blueprint for the defense that could stifle the high-flying Rams of 2018.
OK, OK, more than one thing remains a hard truth. Let’s not obstruct the lede, here — the Rams certainly couldn’t. Star running back Saquon Barkley rushed for 255 yards and two touchdowns in the Eagles’ 37-20 win, including respective 70- and 72-yard TDs (the former was the first play of the third quarter). It was a career night for Barkley, who added an additional four catches for 47 yards, including a catch-and-run screen on a third-and-10 that essentially summarized the Rams’ defensive performance.
Quarterback Jalen Hurts scrambled 18 yards for a first down on third-and-10 in the third quarter, but both the Eagles and the Rams incurred penalties which off-set. So Hurts tossed the short pass to Barkley on the resulting third-and-10, and he picked it up easily and then some — the Eagles’ offense essentially converting back-to-back third-and-long plays, before scoring a touchdown to go up 27-14.
At different points in the second half, an overwhelmingly pro-Eagles crowd (on a night the Rams celebrated their Legends community at SoFi Stadium at halftime) chanted “M-V-P” at Barkley, and the celebration of his play and a team clearly destined for the playoffs — in control of the game since the second quarter — stayed loud and sustained.
OK, fine, another hard truth: A head coach may go out and get the quarterback who can out-diagnose these wily, career-altering defensive coordinators of his past, but if that quarterback isn’t protected it doesn’t matter.
McVay has had his chance to exorcise a few demons in prime time this season, facing the two coaches who have most famously had his number for the first time with Matthew Stafford. One glaring difference between a 30-20 win over the Minnesota Vikings, and this woodshed session against Philadelphia? Stafford wasn’t sacked by Brian Flores’ defense in Week 8, and he was only hit twice.
Sunday night, Fangio’s assertive Eagles front often only had to rush four and won its isolated assignments extremely fast.
“It was a tough night,” McVay said postgame, “… We knew that they had some guys that were pretty damn good. But we’ve got to be able to consistently do a better job and give (Stafford) a little bit more time. It wasn’t one person in particular. … But there were some really quick beats and we have got to be able to look at that and see where we can be better.”
Philadelphia sacked Stafford five times and hit him 11 times.
“Just winning some one-on-ones, that’s what it seemed like,” McVay said. “They did a couple of things where they just stemmed to some different looks where they’re covering everybody and you can elicit some one-on-ones. But (it) wasn’t anything different than what we had seen, they were just able to win some of those matchups.”
When the Rams double-teamed second-year interior defensive lineman Jalen Carter, other players (such as Brandon Graham and Milton Williams) won their corresponding one-on-ones. Graham hounded the right side at times, which featured backup Warren McClendon at right tackle. On a third-and-9 in the second quarter, Graham easily swiped McClendon aside to sack Stafford.
“They kind of know you have to (give him extra attention),” said right guard Kevin Dotson, “so they have game plans to try to disrupt the back side of him (meaning the opposite side of where he is getting blocked). Wherever he’s not at. So, just a lot of … they set a lot of games that you’ve got to be able to get quick stuff off. And we just weren’t able to do that. That’s the game plan, to get (the ball) out fast, get it to our playmakers and do what we can. Sometimes it just doesn’t work out perfectly.”
The Rams dug themselves into a hole early in the game. A promising opening drive was fumbled away by running back Kyren Williams, his fourth of the season. McVay noted that the lost fumble “really hurt us, obviously” and then later said “that’s something that we have to be better at, for sure,” a comment that is about as close as he gets to public criticism.
“The ball, that’s the most important thing (and I) have to take care of it no matter what the situation is,” Williams said in the locker room postgame.
Still, the game didn’t yet feel out of reach. Stafford and the Rams executed a well-planned touchdown drive deep into the first quarter, punctuated by a 1-yard rushing touchdown by Williams, that featured a blend of run and pass plays that clearly aimed (via blocking structures and pre- and at-snap misdirection) to get the Eagles’ defensive linemen and linebackers flowing in the wrong direction.
But they adjusted quickly, getting linebackers and defensive backs into blocking layers and stifling Stafford and the Rams through the second quarter to the point where they netted minus-6 yards out of four consecutive possessions.
When Barkley ripped open a 70-yard rushing touchdown on the first play of the third quarter, the game already felt over.
“We were running a little pressure, (and) one of our guys got out of the gap backside,” said defensive tackle and captain Kobie Turner. “He was supposed to be B-gap, went to the C-gap and he hit it through the B-gap. Once you give (Barkley) space to run, and now he’s up on the second level, he can make guys miss and he has the speed to break away.
“That’s on us, again, as a defensive front — not staying true to what we do.”
The Rams’ defense didn’t just struggle to contain Barkley. Between his effectiveness against their second and third levels, receiver A.J. Brown’s ability to make defenders miss to create big plays and Hurts’ success when escaping pressure and getting the ball downfield — it seemed all game that the Eagles could make explosive play after explosive play. Brown finished with 109 yards and a touchdown on six catches, averaging more than 18 yards per catch. The Eagles totaled 481 yards of offense to the Rams’ 290.
The NFC West is still relatively open after San Francisco 49ers and Arizona Cardinals losses earlier Sunday. But honestly, if the Rams’ coaches and players even take more than a second to think about that point (though they were asked about it postgame) they’re missing the plot. There are more pressing matters to address.
This simply is a team that can’t currently hang with the big, physical, tough-dude teams. That touchdown in the first quarter was all well and good for them, but it’s only the second first-quarter touchdown they’ve scored all season. A team that got pushed around as its quarterback was hassled, that couldn’t stick to its technique on defense got run over in its own house — as that house got run over by fans in green jerseys.
“You get yourself up off the mat, you look at the things that (we) can control, you look at the things that we can correct,” McVay said. “You just go back to work. I don’t know any other way to go about it, other than to say ‘tonight it didn’t go down for us.’ And there’s a lot of reasons for it. You do give Philadelphia the credit they deserve. But we’re gonna come back swinging, I know that much.”
znModeratorAlbert Breer@AlbertBreer
The Rams drilled their first two draft picks—Jared Verse is an absolute monster, and Braden Fiske seems to make a play every week.Rams Tapes@RamsTapes
Braden Fiske has surpassed Byron Young (2023), Aaron Donald (2014), and Robert Quinn (2011) for the most sacks by a Rams player through their first 11 career gamesznModeratorWhat a throw. What a catch. Sheesh.
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— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) November 25, 2024
znModeratorThe problem with Rams fans is that we can’t deal with a loss by demanding the team fire the coach and/or replace the quarterback.
So what’s left? Nothing but muted disappointment explained with rational, matter of fact analysis.
znModeratorAdam Grosbard @adamgrosbard.bsky.social
Jared Verse put a lot of the blame for the Rams’ defensive performance on himself: “I was putting us in a bad hole in a lot of positions. I didn’t put my DBs in a good position when they were rushing. A couple times I took the inside just cuz I felt like it was open when I gotta stay on the edge”Rams stop the Tush Push on third down just to get drawn offsides on fourth
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Blaine Grisak @bgrisaktst.bsky.social
Everybody wants to keep comparing this Rams team to the one that went 7-1 down the stretch last season.This team has not shown any level of consistency to do that. This is just a team that’s hurt on one side of the ball and
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The Rams signed Tanner Brown as a UDFA…cut him before the season.
They signed Havrisik…and cut him midseasonThey signed Maher…and cut him midseason.
They drafted Karty and now he’s struggling.
Either the FO can’t identify a kicker or it’s a coaching issue.
znModeratorEagles’ pass rush keeps Stafford uncomfortable
For the offense, it was a complete inability to deal with the pressure Fangio sent to hassle Stafford. Even though they largely rushed with four, when they did send extra rushers they bowled back skill players in blocking roles. Against the Eagles’ typical defensive fronts the Rams devoted extra attention to dynamic defensive lineman Jalen Carter, but he still made his presence felt as the game continued and other rushers (such as Graham) easily won in multiple spots including around the right side against backup right tackle Warren McClendon.
Even some of the movement the Rams created horizontally and vertically with their run-blocking strategy on their first touchdown drive was countered by Fangio and his aggressive defense as linebackers and defensive linemen adjusted to fill those spaces. Rams coach Sean McVay found himself in an all-too-familiar place against the veteran defensive coordinator: With a bottled-up run game and offense overall, and a quarterback hassled too often to sustain drives
That Eagles fans overwhelmingly filled SoFi Stadium on a night the Rams as a franchise paid tribute to its Legends community only added to the embarrassing showing — a night where, for all the glitz of Prime Time, the Rams showed they can’t truly hang with the big boy teams this season. — Rodrigue
znModeratorToo many mistakes, too much Barkley
It’s tough for a team to climb out of a hole of its own making, and the Rams dug themselves deep on Sunday night. They turned the ball over on their first possession (Williams’ fourth fumble of the year) and netted minus-6 (yes, minus-6) yards over four second-quarter drives. They also allowed a 70-yard touchdown from Barkley on the first play of the third quarter.
Missed tackles particularly in the second and third levels and another big Barkley game (302 total yards — 255 rushing, 47 receiving) were the story of the day for the defense. The Eagles had 407 yards of offense with about five minutes left in the fourth quarter. By the time the clock hit 2:44 in the fourth quarter, Barkley had notched another 72-yard rushing touchdown and the Rams had allowed 316 net rushing yards as the Eagles closed in on 500 yards of offense. — Jourdan Rodrigue
znModeratorznModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Kobie Turner said DL was not gap sound and that the yardage they allowed tonight “was embarrassing”.“We got a lot of work to do. But again, it comes down to us really trusting what we have. …All of the big runs, that’s on us not being in our gap.”
Jim Youngblood 53@53_jim70721
I thought Eagles were bad matchup vs Rams. I never imagined it would be worst rushing defense in franchise historyCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Saquon Barkley had 255 yards rushing but but but if you take out his two long runs he only had……113 yards
Rams are now 5-for-28 on third down in their last three games and 8-for-41 in their last four
That includes 0-for-8 tonight
Pete Prisco@PriscoCBS
Eagles and Lions are proof that you build with big people. There are only so many big people who can play offensive line well. Find them and the rest will work. It’s simple, really — provided you have a quarterback.znModeratorfrom https://www.therams.com/news/rams-eagles-inactives-week-12-2024-sunday-night-football-rob-havenstein
Below are the inactives for both teams.
LOS ANGELES RAMS
QB Stetson Bennett
CB Charles Woods
RB Cody Schrader
OLB Brennan Jackson
OL Dylan McMahon
OL Rob Havenstein
DE Desjuan Johnson
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
WR DeVonta Smith (hamstring)
QB Tanner McKee (emergency third QB)
OL Darian Kinnard
G Trevor Keegan
C Nick Gates
CB Eli Ricks
znModeratorGB and Seattle win.
znModeratorMay the other wishes you have for today’s games bear better fruit
Why? Miami beat NE soundly, just like I said they would.
znModerator]Looked at the schedule. A lot of uninteresting matchups today. The only other games I have any significant interest in are SF-GB and AZ-SEA, both on FOX in the late time slot.
Those 2 games are indeed interesting. I too will check scores without watching either one.
I do want the Patz to beat Miami.
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