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    in reply to: Gains + 2nd rounder for Watkins + 6th rounder #72259
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    Some heads are going to roll.

    Well, unless they keep 13 receivers.

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    in reply to: Sammy Watkins highlights/scouting reports etc. thread #72255
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    Three Things to Know about Sammy Watkins

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Three-Things-to-Know-about-Sammy-Watkins/853f5600-1578-4dce-85e3-70d38b77564c

    Wide receiver Sammy Watkins is the centerpiece of a deal that brings experience and explosive-play ability to the Rams’ offense. Here are three things to know about the newest target for quarterback Jared Goff.

    1) No. 1 ability

    There’s a reason why Watkins was selected with the No. 4 overall pick in the 2014 draft, and that’s his potential to be a true top-flight wide receiver.

    At 6-foot-1 and 211 pounds, he has the size. Running a 4.43 40-yard dash at the NFL Combine showed he has the speed. And his performance with the Bills has provided examples of production.

    Watkins played 29 games over his first two seasons, and in that time averaged 62 receptions for 1,014 yards with eight touchdowns in each year. While he missed three games due to injury in 2015, Watkins still had an outstanding year, making 60 receptions for 1,047 yards with nine touchdowns.

    Displaying his big-play capability, Watkins finished No. 3 with seven receptions of at least 40 yards, and he had 18 receptions of at least 20 yards. He also ended the year No. 6 in yards per reception at 17.5.

    Those are explosive numbers — the kind that would bring some much-needed juice to the Rams’ offense.

    2) How’s his health?

    Watkins missed eight games in 2016 due to a foot injury. While he initially had surgery on the foot in the spring of that year, he hadn’t quite fully recovered and went on injured reserve early in the season. The Bills designated him to return, and he came off the list for their last six games. But Watkins’ production was not at the level it had been for his first two seasons.

    The wide receiver then elected to have another surgery during the offseason in order to correct the problem. And through a couple weeks of training camp and his first preseason game, Watkins is beginning to look like himself again.

    In Thursday’s preseason matchup against the Vikings, Watkins caught four passes for 39 yards on five targets. The Bills targeted Watkins on their first three offensive plays, and the wide receiver caught all three passes.

    “This was the best I’ve ever felt,” Watkins said following Thursday’s game, via NYup.com. “Practice was grinding. Today, I was free. I was just out there running my routes, having fun, just looking to get the ball. I wasn’t pressing or anything. I was just trying to score honestly.”

    3) Contract year

    While Watkins is a former first-round pick in the 2014 draft, the Bills elected to decline his fifth-year option. This means the wideout is now in a contract year and is slated to be an unrestricted free agent in March, as he enters his first season in L.A.

    In addition to cornerback E.J. Gaines, the Rams surrendered a 2018 second-round pick to acquire Watkins — significant draft capital. Still, it will be incumbent on the team and player to find a solution that works for both sides if there is to be a long-term deal.

    If there’s one recent comparison for this situation with the Rams, it would be linebacker Mark Barron — though the situations are not exactly parallel. The club acquired the Buccaneers’ 2012 first-round pick through a midseason trade in 2014. The Rams declined his fifth-year option, but then reached an agreement on a five-year contract early in the free agency period last March.

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    Sammy Watkins gives the Rams the vertical threat they’ve been starving for, if healthy. Sean McVay finally has that DeSean Jackson type for his offense to stretch the field, opening up so much for Todd Gurley and his bevy of slot receivers. They didn’t have that guy. They wanted it to be Tavon Austin, but he had wrist surgery in the offseason, has been bothered by a hamstring injury during training camp and has never proven capable of that. Mike Thomas is suspended the first four games and Josh Reynolds is a rookie, so they couldn’t count on either. Giving up a second-round pick hurts, but EJ Gaines had already lost the starting job to Kayvon Webster as the second outside corner.

    Alden Gonzalez, ESPN Staff Writer: http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0687721419819193436-4

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    The elephant in the room after the Sammy Watkins trade: What does this mean for Tavon Austin? Crazy to think, given the $40-plus million extension he was given less than a year ago. But it seems like he is being phased out of this offense. Rams have drafted seven wide receivers and tight ends the last two years, have signed another wideout (Robert Woods) and have traded for another (Watkins). Also, Austin’s dead cap drops from nearly $20M to $5M next year. He hasn’t been able to practice, either. Right now, looks like it’s Watkins, Woods and rookie Cooper Kupp, who they really like, in three-receiver sets.

    Alden Gonzalez, ESPN Staff Writer: http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0687729026021725349-4

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    RockRam wrote:

    Interesting take from the Bill’s media

    Bills media is expecting a low win total and think the Rams got Watkins much too cheap.

    The Bill’s are in this to retool and rebuild.

    They are stocking up on draft picks for next year.

    They now have 2 Firsts, 2 Seconds, and 2 Thirds.

    In fact, some say the Bills are setting themselves up to “tank” this year to get the highest pick possible (a new QB?).

    in reply to: Sammy Watkins highlights/scouting reports etc. thread #72251
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    in reply to: Gains + 2nd rounder for Watkins + 6th rounder #72250
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    in reply to: Gains + 2nd rounder for Watkins + 6th rounder #72249
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    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8402/tavon-austin

    According to Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk on NBC Sports, the Rams aren’t shopping Tavon Austin.
    There was speculation Austin could be dealt after the Rams acquired Sammy Watkins from Buffalo on Friday, but multiple outlets have confirmed that isn’t the case. Obviously Watkins’ presence will mean fewer targets for Austin, whose fantasy appeal was flimsy to begin with. A glorified gadget player (despite ludicrous comparisons to DeSean Jackson), the former eighth overall pick ranked 123rd out of 154 qualified receivers in yards per reception last season. Aug 11 – 2:13 PM
    Source: ProFootballTalk on NBC Sports

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    in reply to: PFF John Kosko talks about Gurley and Goff #72243
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    Is this one any good?

    I get worn out listening to bad editorials about Goff.

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    That’s why the brass all met yesterday:

    Rich Hammond‏ @Rich_Hammond
    Post-practice power meeting with Goff, Kroenke, Demoff and Snead going on.

    in reply to: Finkelstein on not 'talking to ourselves' #72238
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    Or you can change the law. Dummy.

    in reply to: Gains + 2nd rounder for Watkins + 6th rounder #72237
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    Poor Robert Woods. 2nd fiddle again.

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    in reply to: Gurley and Wade – Podcasts #72218
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    Gurley is not a very forthcoming and outgoing guy…the interviewers have to make up for him a lot.

    in reply to: 2 UDFAs who have gotten good buzz in camp reports etc. #72217
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    When the 2s came in with Mannion, Llorens had a nice run around the left edge followed up by a nice catch. When I watched practice on Friday, Llorens looked really good when running with the 3s. It seems I was not the only one who noticed this as he got a lot of playing time with 2s today.

    Running back De’Mard Llorens had a nice run towards the tail end of the day, finding his hole quickly and bringing it all the way down field to the end zone.

    In my mind the star of the day was #37 De’Mard Llorens, a rookie running back that I never heard of. He scored a TD on a pass from Mannion (not sure if this was in 7 on 7 or 11 on 11). After the second team offense was chewed up by the D in the start at your 1 yard line, it was the third teams time to play. Llorens got the edge and had a nice run. At the end of practice, the rams practiced a two minute drill. On back to back plays, Llorens got the edge going right for a big pick up, and then gets the edge going left and takes it to the two.

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    The Milky Way’s Supermassive Black Hole is Proving Einstein Correct

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/milky-way-supermassive-black-hole-121900474.html

    Scientists have applied new analytical techniques to data gleaned from the European Southern Observatory’s (ESO’s) Very Large Telescope (VLT) and other telescopes over the past twenty years. This new analysis of the stars orbiting the supermassive black hole at the heart of the Milky Way reveals movement that deviates from what classical physics would predict, supporting instead the subtle effects predicted by Einstein’s general theory of relativity.

    The closest supermassive black hole to Earth is the one that rests 26,000 light-years away at the center of the Milky Way, and is four million times more massive than the Sun. This giant is surrounded by a cluster of stars orbiting in the strong gravitational field of the black hole — the ideal proving ground for Einstein’s general theory of relativity and, more generally, gravitational physics. This is why a team of astronomers has recently applied a new technique to observational data of the stars, comparing the star orbits actually measured with those predicted by both classical Newtonian gravity and general relativity.

    The research team, hailing from Germany and the Czech Republic, used VLT observations from the last 20 years to compare star orbit predictions made through Newtonian gravity techniques, with predictions made through general relativity. What they found was that a star known as S2 exhibited movements consistently predicted by general relativity.

    The team uncovered hints towards a slight change in the motion of S2. The change is small, only about one-sixth of a degree in the orbit’s orientation, and a few percent in the orbit’s shape, but those changes are consistent with predicted relativistic effects. This marks the first time that the strength of the general relativistic effects has been measured for stars orbiting a supermassive black hole.

    That doesn’t mean astrophysicists are finally finished. These new results may just be a soft introduction to much more invigorating data to be collected by GRAVITY, a new instrument helmed by the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Garching, Germany. That instrument may be able to track the passage of S2 along Sgr A* in 2018 and unveil an even more tantalizing trove of data relevant to general relativity’s and modern physics’ biggest questions. This should reveal not only relativistic effects with more clarity, but perhaps even new physics, as astronomers detect deviations from general relativity.

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    Cooper Kupp Day 11 Training Camp Press Conference

    Cooper Kupp spoke with the media following Day 11 of Rams Traininig Camp.

    http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Cooper-Kupp-Day-11-Training-Camp-Press-Conference/df822f0a-2374-4e0a-8825-2409a282e2a1

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    Rams Head Coach Sean McVay– – August 10, 2017

    (On practice being a little less spirited today)

    “Yeah. We had the highest volume, most intensity yesterday in any of the practices that we had this training camp and I want to be mindful that we’re a couple days out from our first preseason game so, really the focus was on kind of getting these guys loose, more of an activation flush type deal and then we had one competitive period and then finished up with just kind of a jog through mindset and mentality with some cards and then two-minute. The guys came in, there was some good stuff. I thought yesterday provided a great opportunity to get what we wanted out of it and there’s a lot of good and there’s a lot of things that we have to clean up, so it was beneficial for us as a team.”

    (On how anxious he is to get on the field and experience his first preseason game as Head Coach)

    “I’m excited. I’m excited to watch these guys compete. I think they’ve done a good job throughout the course of training camp of putting themselves in position to have success, and that’s what it’s about is allowing these guys to go play with a quieted mind and just play to the best of their ability and hopefully good things happen for them. I think it offers a great opportunity for us to play in front of our home fans for the first time this season. I know as a coaching staff and our players, we’re excited about it.”

    (On his staff’s perspective going into the first preseason game)

    “That’s what I think the preseason offers, a great opportunity really for us as coaches – especially like you mentioned, being a new staff – kind of get everything in order so that you feel like you’ve really got these four preseason games, so that by the time the Indianapolis Colts game rolls around, we feel good about our process and how we want to handle things throughout the course of the game.”

    (On him having fun out there with the players before practice)

    “Yeah. We were just putting in some end of the game situations, keeping the ball alive and just trying to get a little – try to steal a workout, I guess.”

    (On if he got a good workout)

    “I did. I thought my hamstrings were going to cramp up there.”

    (On what stood out to him from yesterday’s film)

    “I thought our team as a whole, I thought there were some good times where we played physical and then as a whole, I think what I liked was the way that we responded after a little bit of stuff – after some of the things that occurred early on in practice and I thought we were able to get good work. Any time that you have that many reps there’s always going to be some good and some bad. Like I mentioned after the practice, I think you talk about some of the specific situations. I thought our defense in the two-minute drill did a really nice job. Then special teams, you just look at the consistent effort displayed with our coverage units, with our punt unit. I thought it was really a job well done by them as a whole.”

    (On running some scout team drills during preseason)

    “Really what it was, we just did a couple carded periods. Because we’re so accustomed to going against a three-down front with our defense and some of the things schematically that Dallas does offensively, just wanted to put these guys in a position, at least see a couple of the plays that we expect them to see and a couple of the defensive structures. We’ll get a little walk-thru tomorrow, but it was more of an introduction to those guys. Then, tomorrow will be kind of a mental walk-thru and then we’ll be ready to go on Saturday.”

    (On his decision to keep Special Teams Coordinator John Fassel)

    “I’ve always had a lot of respect for what he’s done and his career from afar. I’ve met him a couple times and as soon as you meet him, you realize what a special person he is. It was more along the lines of feeling fortunate to be able to have somebody to work with like him, so if that was something that he wanted to continue to do, be a part of this organization, that was something that we had in the plans, but I feel very fortunate to have him. He’s been a great resource for me and obviously a great coach that the players love.”

    (On Coach Fassel being a good resource in terms of knowing the players)

    “That, and just I think when you look at the experience that he has as a coach, but also as a leader of this team for the last handful of weeks. I think one of the things that stands out to me is how committed those players are to playing to the best of their ability for him and how hard they play because they can see he’s all about the right stuff in terms of building and developing those relationships. Then he’s a great coach with substance, and I think that’s what you’re ultimately looking for is caring about these guys, but helping them reach their highest potential. I think he’s done that over the last handful of years with these guys.”

    (On if he’s concerned about his team’s discipline after yesterday’s practice)

    “No, I wouldn’t say so. I think that if those things carry over into the game, then that’s when it becomes a concern. You always want to just be mindful of it, like we said, afterwards of making sure that we always do things that protect the team and certainly we want to make sure that we do our talking in between the whistles. I think that’s something that we’ll be mindful of moving forward.”

    (On if he remembers any touchdown celebrations being outlawed while he was coming up as a coach)

    “I remember a couple last year where (Redskins TE) Vernon Davis shot one and just shot a ball through the field goal post and he got penalized for that, so I guess he’ll be able to do that this year. I think it’s good. It’s about having fun and enjoying the competition and ultimately, it is a great entertainment sport and I think that offers a unique opportunity for the players to be able to enjoy when they’re having some success and the fans can get a kick out of some of the things they can do.”

    (On if anything has stood out to him about WR Shakeir Ryan)

    “I think probably the same thing that stood out to you yesterday – he had a great punt return, he’s got that speed and I think when he’s gotten his opportunity just based on some guys going down he’s gotten a few more reps than he’s been accustomed to and I think when his opportunities have come he’s done a nice job making plays. He’ll get an opportunity in the preseason to be able to do the same thing. But certainly you feel his speed as a returner and when he was able to hit the one yesterday, even though it was kind of a smaller level deal without the gunners and the perimeter players, but you can definitely feel his speed.”

    (On if the Rams signed another kicker)

    “We did. We added another kicker and really, I think the thing is being mindful of how good you feel about your specialists you have in place and offering an opportunity to be able to have somebody play in the second half that can both punt and kick because you feel so good about (K) Greg (Zuerlein) and (P) Johnny (Hekker) and that’s what that’ll provide for us.”

    (On if there are any updates on WR Tavon Austin’s injury or DT Aaron Donald’s contract situation)

    “No updates on those. (WR) Tavon (Austin) continues to be day-to-day – with those hamstrings, like we had mentioned it’s really tricky especially, with a skill player that his game is so much predicated on explosive type movements. As far as (DT) Aaron (Donald), I’ll get an opportunity to talk to (Executive Vice President of Football Operations/Chief Operating Officer) Kevin (Demoff) and (General Manager) Les (Snead) like I do kind of at the end of every single day. Sometimes there’s discussions, sometimes there’s not, but it’s kind of the same where we’re trying to find a solution to this and we’re hopeful that he’ll end up being here sooner than later.”

    (On what his job duties were in 2010 as an offensive assistant)

    “2010, that’s a great question. When I first got hired there I was really like an assistant receivers coach and breaking down the film, kind of helping (Former Redskins offensive coordinator) Kyle (Shanahan) out with just some of the organizational things and then really helping out all of the different position coaches – anything from making reports and creating call sheets. So, doing all of the little things that you can kind of be of help to help the position coaches and the coordinators do their work throughout the course of the week.”

    (On how he conducts himself on the field and seems to have fun out there)

    “I think that’s exactly right. I think the thing that you feel fortunate about is that we’ve got a bunch of great coaches with good energy and this is something that we love to do. Being out here and just kind of being engaging with the players and proactive about how we interact from drill to drill or from team drill to team drill is part of what makes this job so enjoyable.”

    (On if there’s a big difference between being a quality control coach and a head coach)

    “I would say coaching is coaching in general. You’re trying to help these players reach their highest potential. Now certainly, this job dictates a different way of handling yourself with having to address the team and the platform that you have, but I think what’s special about coaching is first and foremost, especially at the pro level, these are grown men. It’s about developing and building relationships with these guys, them knowing that you have their best interests and you’re trying to help them succeed because when they have success we all succeed together and I think that’s what makes football in general so special – is that team element and that’s what we’re striving to create, is a connected team and I think we’re on the right track right now.”

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    Training Camp Report: Quick Hits From Day 11

    Kristen Lago

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Training-Camp-Report-Quick-Hits-From-Day-11/3ecd16fc-eff0-4377-9736-8ef1c60ed262

    After a very spirited practice with the Chargers on Wednesday, the Rams were back on field at UC Irvine for Day 11 of their 2017 training camp. With just two practices left until the team’s preseason opener against the Cowboys, this afternoon’s session was noticeably lighter and shorter in nature.

    Here’s what you need to know from Day 11:

    QUICK HITS FROM THE FIELD

    – Players entered the field today in jerseys, shorts, and helmets with no pads. They spent the majority of the first half of practice walking through various plays, allowing the team to focus on the mental side of the game after yesterday’s very physical session.

    – Wide receiver Josh Reynolds was back participating in practice today after missing the last few sessions with a hamstring issue. Wideout Tavon Austin, linebacker Samson Ebukam and offensive tackle Andrew Donnal remained sidelined this afternoon and will likely miss the preseason opener on Saturday.

    – Head Coach Sean McVay was also able to get in on the fun playing defensive back to his wide receivers, staying with them as they ran from midfield all the way to the end zone.

    – Quarterback Jared Goff looked sharp throughout today’s non-contact practice. He completed a number of passes to tight end Tyler Higbee who is quickly becoming one of Goff’s most reliable targets. Goff also made numerous completions to wideouts Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods throughout the various drills.

    – Cornerback E.J. Gaines also had a big play in this afternoon’s practice staying with Kupp on a route down the sidelines and batting the ball out of the receiver’s hands.

    – In yesterday’s joint practice with the Chargers many of the plays called allowed for Goff to experiment with the long ball downfield. Today the majority of his routes were immediate to mid range shots with a lot of emphasis on the run game. However, early on in the day Goff did get to stretch his arm practicing what looked like a few “hail mary” passes into the end zone

    – Safety LaMarcus Joyner had a few impressive pass breakups during the 11-on-11 drills in man coverage. He has looked settled and confident in his new position throughout camp after transitioning from the slot corner role to a free safety.

    – Earlier today the Rams added a new placekicker to their active roster signing former Browns’ player Travis Coons. The Rams roster now stands at the league maximum of 90 players.

    – Rams’ owner Stan Kroenke was also on the sidelines at today’s practice to watch his team gear up for the preseason opener.

    STANDING OUT

    After providing the play of the day with his punt return for a touchdown yesterday, wide receiver Shakeir Ryan continued to stand out in Thursday’s practice.

    Today the wideout was flying all over the field and recorded another memorable catch, diving to grab a ball from quarterback Sean Mannion. Though this is his first training camp in the NFL, he has been an exciting player to watch throughout camp.

    PRESS POINTS

    After practice McVay spoke to the media about his first upcoming game as a head coach. Catch up on his most interesting points from Day 11 and check out his full interview here:

    SEAN McVAY:

    On how anxious he is to get on the field and experience his first preseason game as Head Coach: “I’m excited. I’m excited to watch these guys compete. I think they’ve done a good job throughout the course of training camp of putting themselves in a position to have success, and that’s what it’s about is allowing these guys to go play with a quieted mind and just play to the best of their ability. I think it offers a great opportunity for us to play in front of our home fans for the first time this season. I know as a coaching staff and our players, we’re excited about it.”

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    Highlights from Thursday’s Rams practice

    RICH HAMMOND

    link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/08/10/highlights-from-thursdays-rams-practice/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    BIG MOMENT

    Rookie receiver Cooper Kupp looked to be headed toward another highlight practice catch. Kupp extended near the sideline to get his hands on a pass from quarterback Jared Goff, but just as Kupp was about to pull the ball in, cornerback E.J. Gaines knocked it away and drew loud praise from Coach Sean McVay.

    INJURY REPORT

    Linebacker Robert Quinn has been in and out of drills throughout training camp, and Quinn sat out Thursday, even though the Rams did not practice in full pads. Lamarcus Joyner, who also has been in and out with a mild back injury, participated in team drills.

    McVay said he did not have an update on receiver Tavon Austin, who remains out with a hamstring injury.

    Running back Lance Dunbar, offensive lineman Andrew Donnal tight end Johnny Mundt, linebacker Samson Ebukam and receiver Josh Reynolds also remain out.

    QUOTE OF THE DAY

    “That was a funny play. I did have to watch that. I saw that on social media more than anything.”
    — Gaines, on the practice fights with the Chargers on Wednesday, and whether the Rams watched cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman get body-slammed by the Chargers’ Keenan Allen.

    DEPTH CHART

    First-string cornerback Kayvon Webster missed practice for unknown reasons, so Gaines took most of his reps. Matt Longacre continued to take Quinn’s first-team reps at linebacker.

    ON THE MOVE

    The highlight of practice might have been 31-year-old McVay chasing his offensive players around the field as they lateraled the ball during a drill that simulated the final play of a game.

    “We were just putting in some end-of-game situations, keeping the ball alive and I was trying to steal a workout, I guess,” McVay said with a gin. “I thought my hamstrings were going to cramp up a little bit.”

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    EJ Gaines, on the Rams’ corners: “This is one of the tightest groups I’ve been around.” More on yesterday’s fights, how it galvanized the group, and his role on the team.

    Alden Gonzalez, ESPN Staff Writer [go to link for vid]

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    Best play from Rams practice today: Cooper Kupp high-pointed a throw from Jared Goff and was about to come down with it near the sidelines, but EJ Gaines, who got into two fights against Chargers players Wednesday, had him well defended and batted the ball away. Gaines might have lost a starting spot to Kayvon Webster, but he still believes he can have an impact on this team. “Honestly, since I’ve gotten here, I’ve had a chip on my shoulder,” Gaines said. “I just can’t help but compete.”

    Alden Gonzalez, ESPN Staff Writer

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    With the regular season now just a month away, contract talks between the Rams and defensive lineman Aaron Donald remain stalled.

    Vincent Bonsignore

    link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/08/10/bonsignore-with-preseason-games-upon-us-and-aaron-donalds-holdout-lingering-what-is-his-end-game/

    IRVINE – The Rams will play their first preseason game of 2017 Saturday against the Dallas Cowboys at the Coliseum. Barring a major development between now and kickoff, their best player won’t even be in the same area code, let alone in uniform and on the field with the rest of his teammates.

    The contract holdout of All-Pro defensive tackle Aaron Donald continues to linger, hovering over the Rams like a thick morning marine layer off the Pacific Ocean.

    On and on it goes, now officially two weeks in length and months in execution if you go all the way back to the Rams’ organized offseason team activities. Donald was a no-show throughout OTA’s, firmly planting his feet in the ground in protest of a contract that doesn’t reflect his stature as the NFL’s best interior defensive lineman and the internal fortitude to fight for a new deal that does.

    The last time we actually saw Donald and the Rams in the same vicinity was at a mandatory minicamp June 13. But whatever positive vibes his appearance created in Thousand Oaks that day soon faded amid contract talks that yielded no resolution, an official training camp report date that passed without Donald reporting and the 13 days that have followed in which Donald has conspicuously remained AWOL.

    Donald and his camp have been eerily quiet throughout, but we can safely surmise they are seeking a deal that makes him the highest-paid defensive player in the NFL and surpasses in annual salary the $19,062,500 that Ndamukong Suh makes and the $60 million in guaranteed money his six-year contract with the Dolphins pays him.

    We can also safely assume the Rams have pushed a life-changing pile of money to the middle of the table for Donald to accept, an amount that will grant the 26-year-old Pittsburgh native his wish to be the highest-paid defensive player in the league.

    They are wise enough to understand what they uncovered when they drafted Donald 13th overall in 2014, and that, three years into his original rookie deal he is wildly underpaid and deserves a contract worthy of his current stature.

    In that respect, the two sides share mutual ground. Donald wants his just due and the Rams want to do right by him.

    On the other hand, months of contract talks have yielded no resolution. For all the mutual motivation they share, they just aren’t connecting on the key elements of a mutually satisfactory contract.

    The reasons for that could vary:

    The Rams aren’t willing to go as high over the Suh market as Donald is demanding;
    The two sides can’t find common ground on how much money is guaranteed;
    Donald’s camp is seeking a deal flexible enough to account for any future upward spike of the salary cap, or one he can maneuver out of sooner rather than later if someone comes along to surpass him as the highest-paid defensive player.
    And you can bet someone will.

    Those are all valid negotiating points. And Donald and his camp have every right to fight and scratch for every desirable dynamic.

    But here’s the thing.

    Donald may want all of the above, but aside from doing right by him on a worthy pay bump and the kind of guaranteed money that will comfortably take care of him and his family for generations to come, what is the Rams’ incentive to give in on everything, including how much Donald wants to soar over the Suh benchmark?

    The answer, frankly, is very little.

    Holdout or no holdout.

    Donald still has two years remaining on his original deal. And if you take it a step further, he’s under the Rams’ control through the 2020 season when factoring in the franchise tag tool.

    They hold all the leverage. And while they want Donald back in camp like yesterday, they’ll hold firm in their position because there’s no reason not to.

    Which brings us to the real crux of this holdout and what will ultimately determine how long it lasts.

    Safely assuming the Rams have pushed a life-changing amount of money for Donald to the middle of the table – an amount that, when divvied up, will perch him at the top of defensive player salaries – is he so entrenched in his demands he’s willing to continue to turn that kind of coin down?

    And do what?

    Come back and play this year and next year before, maybe, hitting free agency in 2019? In the meantime, risk getting hurt and throwing away $70 million or more in guarantees?

    Donald has $8 million, total, coming to him over the next two years. That’s a lot of money, relatively speaking. But it ain’t $70 million, now is it?

    Or maybe he continues to hold out and start missing paychecks he’ll never recoup.

    Do either of those options seem appealing, giving the amount of money we can safely assume the Rams are offering?

    The regular season is still a month away. There’s plenty of time for Donald to think all this out and, when the time comes, make a sound decision.

    But you get the sense the Rams have gone pretty much as far as they’re willing to go on his demands. There’s really no incentive go any further.

    That points the spotlight directly on Donald and his camp.

    The question is, what, exactly, is their end game?

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    Rich Hammond‏ @Rich_Hammond
    Post-practice power meeting with Goff, Kroenke, Demoff and Snead going on.

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    Alden Gonzalez‏ @Alden_Gonzalez
    Overheard in the UC Irvine media tent: “I got nothin’.” I think we’re ready for games.

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    J.B. Long‏ @JB_Long
    Asked @MJD to illustrate the changes #Rams are making to their run game. He draws up some outside zone for TG30. https://www.facebook.com/RamsRadio/videos/1068083073322999/

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    Lindsey Thiry @LindseyThiry
    Rams owner Stan Kroenke is watching practice from the sideline today.

    A guy who makes a play at least once a day where you say “wow” at Rams camp is WR Shakeir Ryan, a 5-8 rookie from Northwestern State.

    He just made a slick diving catch from Mannion. Yesterday had a return for a touchdown.

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    Rams-Chargers Joint Practice Highlights

    Check out the best action from the Rams’ joint practice with the Chargers during Training Camp in Irvine, Calif.

    http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Rams-Chargers-Joint-Practice-Highlights/a75be3a0-0f3a-4805-9357-070d311693e3

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    from Buy or sell? Judging eight NFL training camp narratives

    Marc Sessler

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000827434/article/buy-or-sell-judging-eight-nfl-training-camp-narratives

    BUYING IT

    Sean McVay sees “violent” Todd Gurley return to Rams

    It boils down to who’s talking. I wouldn’t buy a word of this from Jeff Fisher, the exiled ex-coach who kept his offense in neutral-or-worse during his entire wayward campaign with the Rams. McVay, though, has a track record of flipping the switch on offense and certainly made Gurley’s trajectory a core part of his offseason planning. After Gurley’s yards-per-carry mark spiraled from 4.8 as a rookie to 3.2 last year, we need to recognize what happened: Opponents rightly uncowed by Case Keenum and a lost-at-the-wheel Jared Goff stacked the box and zeroed in on L.A.’s featured back behind a leaky offensive line. Gurley pranced into unforgiving walls of defenders expecting him — every time.

    McVay and the front office addressed this by replacing draft bust Greg Robinson with three-time Pro Bowl left tackle Andrew Whitworth and adding John Sullivan, the veteran center hoping to start again after two injury-plagued seasons. Sullivan was a standout at the position for Minnesota up until 2015. If McVay can solidify the front five and create more balance with the passing game, Gurley — whose physical talents were never the issue — should be in for a bounceback season in La La Land.

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    Thanks for all the additions ag.

    There’s a lot of info in this thread.

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    Cameron DaSilva: http://theramswire.usatoday.com/2017/08/10/rams-training-camp-5-takeaways-from-day-10/

    The Los Angeles Rams held their second joint practice with the Chargers on Wednesday, and while the constant fighting was the main storyline, there was plenty of good to come out of yesterday’s action.

    For the Rams, the offense continues to improve, but it’s not yet firing on all cylinders. The defense, on the other hand, has been the better unit and proved that once again on Wednesday night.

    Here are five takeaways from Day 10 of camp.

    The offense is still a work in progress

    Wednesday night’s joint practice with the Chargers was a step in the right direction for the Rams, but the offense continues to be the weaker side of the ball. According to Alden Gonzalez of ESPN, the Rams didn’t cross the Chargers’ 40-yard line once in the two-minute drill. That’s not a great sign, but take it with a grain of salt. Los Angeles didn’t have Tavon Austin, arguably their best offensive weapon, and it was against a defense the team hadn’t really prepared for. However, it’s clear there are still improvements that need to be made.

    The defensive backs are extremely aggressive

    If there’s been one standout group in training camp, it’s the defensive backs. They’ve played with a high level of intensity and aggression, leading to some great plays in practice. Wednesday was no different as things got even more intense than normal. Trumaine Johnson got into a fight with Dontrelle Inman, leading to both players’ helmets being taken from them. Then, cornerback E.J. Gaines got into it with another Charger, which was the third fight of the day. Outside of the fighting, the Rams’ defensive backs had a great day against Philip Rivers, essentially neutralizing his deep passes.

    Rob Havenstein would rather play right tackle

    One of the best battles of the day was the one between Havenstein and Joey Bosa. The veteran offensive lineman has spent time at right guard and right tackle during camp, but he may have to stay at the latter after Wednesday’s showing. He held his own against Bosa, proving he may be a better fit at right tackle than Jamon Brown. Havenstein said after practice that he feels more comfortable at right tackle, but still isn’t sure where he’ll play when the season kicks off.

    Jared Goff is getting more comfortable in the offense

    Day by day, Goff is getting better and better in Sean McVay’s offense. He had a good showing against the Chargers, who boast a strong defense with playmakers at every level. He drove the ball downfield more than he did in Saturday’s joint practice, which is a positive development after he struggled in that department last season.

    There are plenty of pass-catchers on offense

    Despite not having Tavon Austin, Goff showed off just how many options he has on offense. While they may not be as talented as other teams’, he doesn’t have to center his attention around one guy the way he did last season. In 11-on-11, he targeted Pharoh Cooper six times, Tyler Higbee five times and threw three passes each in the direction of Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp. Once Austin gets back into the mix, the Rams will have a significantly better group of receivers than they had in 2016.

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    These are really piling up. I added 5 so far today alone.

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