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znModerator#LARams Postgame LIVE: Jared Goff https://t.co/uzBeUYpT3Z
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znModeratorQB respect đŻ@JaredGoff16 x @dak pic.twitter.com/wjpSoM3TsA
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znModeratoras in please donât crush my spirit.
at least not this season.
znModeratorpleaseâŠ
Is that an
“oh puh-leez” as in get real.
Or a “pleez” as in ooo I want this.
znModeratorAfter a week of hype, Rams face a prove-it game against talented Cowboys
By RICH HAMMOND
ALLAS â Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
The Rams have been caught in a landslide of positivity since their last game. Sean McVay? Boy genius. Jared Goff? The right choice as No. 1 pick. Todd Gurley? The NFC player of the month, no less.
At this rate, if the Rams could stay off the field, there might soon be parades held in their honor. Alas, the NFL schedule dictates that they return to the field after a nine-day break, and Sundayâs road game against the Dallas Cowboys isnât an ideal way for the Rams to sustain their surprising momentum.
NFL coaches will downplay the existence of âbenchmarkâ games, but this is one for the 2-1 Rams, with their high-scoring offense and their underachieving defense. The Cowboys went 13-3 last season. The Rams have won a combined total of 13 games since the start of the 2015 season.
âObviously the goal is to win every game,â Gurley said, âbut going into Dallas, theyâre âAmericaâs team.â Theyâre coming off a 13-3 season last year and they have one of the best running backs in the league. They have a great defense. They have the leagueâs sack leader right now. Itâs an opportunity for us to go up against a great team and see where we are and see how weâve come.â
That about says it all.
The Rams have put themselves in about as good a position as possible. They should have handled a hobbled Indianapolis team, and they did. They should have beat San Francisco, and they did, barely. The Washington game basically was considered a toss-up going in, and the Rams lost on a late touchdown.
A 3-0 start would have been marvelous, but even 1-2 would have been a disaster. This is the first time this season that the Rams are the clear underdogs, and even with all of the plaudits the Rams have received, they seem to be taking a slow-go approach to their recent good times.
âAny time you have success, you have confidence,â Goff said, âwhether itâs in practice or in the film room or wherever. Itâs not just on game day. The whole team is feeling pretty good right now. Weâre grounded and we want to get better, but we believe in each other, and I think thatâs the biggest part.â
Then again, thatâs easy for a Rams offensive player to say. The Rams, shockingly, are the NFLâs highest-scoring team entering the fourth week. Theyâve have to deal with Dallas defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence, the NFLâs sack leader, but the status of talented linebacker Sean Lee is a game-time decision.
Itâs not quite as rosy for the Ramsâ defense, which struggled against Washington and San Francisco and now will be without starting safety Lamarcus Joyner and, perhaps, his backup, Cody Davis.
The Rams must attempt to slow a balanced Dallas offense led by quarterback Dak Prescott and running back Ezekiel Elliott, and improve after they allowed 39 points to a weak 49ers offense.
âI feel like it wasnât as bad as we thought,â Donald said. âWe definitely made a lot of mistakes here and there, but it isnât anything that we canât clean up. Iâd rather have it happen now, early, than later. Weâre going to be good.â
Now would be the time to show it. After the Dallas, the Rams have a tough home game against Seattle, then the annual weird two-week stretch in which they play an East Coast road game (in Jacksonville) then stay on the road for an additional week before a âhomeâ game in London (against Arizona).
A victory over Dallas would put the Rams into a full-blown national hype cycle, even though, as Goff noted this week, the Rams started 3-1 last season and lost 11 of their final 12 games.
âYou break the season into quarters,â Goff said. âIf weâre able to finish this one with a win, that would be a good quarter for us and weâd be ready to go for a good second quarter.â
znModeratorHas Sean McVay turned the Rams around already? Sunday will say
The Los Angeles Rams are the highest scoring team in the NFL. Todd Gurley is the NFC Offensive Player of the Month. Jared Goff leads the NFL is passing yards per attempt.
Has first-year head coach Sean McVay turned the Rams around already?
Weâll find out on Sunday morning, when the Rams visit Jerryâs World for an early season test against Dallas.
âWeâve got to be at our best on Sunday,â McVay said this week. âThereâs not a weakness on this team and thatâs why if weâre going to give ourselves a chance to compete, weâve got to be ready to go.â
Just an offseason removed from putting up perhaps the worst offensive season in a decade, the Rams lead the NFL in scoring with 107 points in three games.
They put up 46 and 41 points in their two wins, meaning the Rams now have as many 40-point games in McVayâs three games as they did in five seasons under previous head coach Jeff Fisher.
âTheyâre obviously playing really good offensive football and it doesnât surprise me one bit,â Dallas head coach Jason Garrett said. âTheyâve got a lot of good pieces there.
âThe running back is outstanding, a lot of weapons outside and there is no question that Jared is in a comfortable place and really doing a good job executing what theyâre asking him to do.â
Gurley has already made up for last yearâs struggles. The running back is tied for the league lead in touchdowns with six through three games.
He had six total in his âsophomore slumpâ of 2016.
âYou have your ups and downs in this game,â said Gurley, who was named NFC Offensive Player of the Month this week. âEvery year is not going to be a good year and, obviously, I figured that out last year.
âAll you can do is move forward, just keep working hard, control what you can control and just take it day-by-day preparation. Once the season comes, you just let all the anger out.â
Goff is coming off a career-high 145.6 passer rating in the Ramsâ 41-39 win at San Francisco on Sept. 21.
âWe feel good right now,â Goff said. âWeâre so focused on Dallas and what weâre doing right now that we donât want to get too far ahead of ourselves.â
Goff remembers vividly that the Rams opened 3-1 a year ago and lost 11 of their final 12 games.
âWe started off 3-1 last year and saw the way that went,â Goff said. âSo it doesnât mean much.â
Especially since the wins have come against Indianapolis and San Francisco, who are a combined 1-5.
Conversely, the Cowboys (2-1) were 13-3 a year ago and have one of the top offenses in football, featuring quarterback Dak Prescott, running back Ezekiel Elliot and receiver Dez Bryant.
Of course, McVay mentioned all three this week, and then included âfirst ballot Hall of Famerâ Jason Witten at tight end, âone of the better slot receivers in the leagueâ Cole Beasley, as well as receivers Terrance Williams and Ryan Switzer.
Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips called the Dallas offense a âpremiere challengeâ this week.
âWhen youâre playing a really good offensive team, thatâs when you have to step up and be a really good defensive team,â Phillips said.
While the offense is surpassing all expectations, the defense has been slow to transition from Gregg Williamsâ 4-3 defense to Phillipsâ 3-4 system.
The Rams are 26th in scoring defense and 29th against the run through three games.
âWeâre going to be all right,â Phillips said. âWeâre getting better.â
The Rams will be boosted by the return of cornerback Kayvon Webster, who missed the last two games with a shoulder injury. Although safety Lamarcus Joyner, one of the keystones of the unit, has already been ruled out with a hamstring injury suffered in San Francisco.
âI feel good about our defense,â Phillips said. âI think weâre going to be fine. ⊠Weâve got a good group that works hard and Iâm glad Iâm coaching here.â
Phillips will coach in Dallas for the first time since being first as Cowboys head coach in 2010.
âLike most of the teams in the league, it didnât end well with me,â Phillips said laughing. âSo, if I had a vendetta against⊠any team that has fired me, Iâd have a quarter of the league, seven of them.
âThose things happen. Part of coaching is getting fired.â
znModeratorBonsignore: The Rams really are better than last year, and they can beat the Cowboys
By VINCENT BONSIGNORE
IRVING, TEXAS â Jared Goff didnât play the first four games last year. But no one had a better vantage point from which to witness the Rams 3-1 start than he did watching from the sideline.
Or the eventual buckle of the bridge they built and subsequent collapse, for that matter.
Goff is playing now, of course. And there isnât anyone more responsible than the second-year quarterback from Cal for the 2-1 record the Rams take to Texas on Sunday to play the Cowboys.
But knowing what he knows from last year, donât expect Goff to be doing any victory laps even if the Rams march into AT&T Stadium and beat the Cowboys.
âWe started off 3-1 last year and saw the way that went,â Goff reminded everyone. âSo, it doesnât mean much. Itâll be good. It means we started off well, but you break the season into quarters and if we are able to finish this one with the win, it would be a good quarter for us and be ready to go for another good second quarter, is the plan. But right now weâre just focused on going out there Sunday and playing as best we can.â
Goff might only be a second-year NFL quarterback. And really just a first-year one considering he spent the majority of last season as the backup to Case Keenum. But give him credit for the prudence he shows in putting the Rams fast start in perspective. It has, and will, serve him well.
But weâre under no such decree or guidelines.
So letâs just say what everyone is thinking.
The Ramsâ 2-1 start this year is in no way, shape or form similar to the same start they got off to last year. The one that ultimately crumbled into a 4-12 disaster and created the kind of carnage that results from almost an entire coaching staff losing their jobs and a dramatic makeover of the roster.
This feels different. It looks different. And frankly, it is different. Which renders comparisons to last year utterly useless and pointless.
No matter how cleverly the Rams try to cover that up.
âA win is a win. Itâs hard to get a win in this league,â Tavon Austin said, âItâs all the same to me.â
Youâd expect Austin to play the skeptical or low-key card given the losing he has experienced since coming aboard in 2013. It takes a mental toll, being part of the 21-40 record Austin has endured the past four years, and while he, as much as anyone else, should recognize the nuanced contrasts between this year and years past, he isnât ready to go there just yet.
Maybe we all shouldnât, no matter how much instincts and experience tell us things are different this year compared to last. How the league-leading 35.7 points per game the Rams are averaging is no mirage, given the superior talent they assembled and the imaginative coaching Sean McVay has added and the growth and maturity of Goff, whose performance thus far is among the best in the NFL.
Best to just play it safe, even if itâs just to protect us in the event the proverbial other shoe drops. The one thatâs crushed the hearts and souls of the Rams and their fans for more than a decade as losing season after losing season has piled up.
Is it OK to feel better about things?
âYeah I think so,â Goff said. âWe feel good right now.â
But maybe itâs best we keep it in perspective.
âI donât know if you want ⊠think any of it long term right now,â he added. âWeâre so focused on Dallas and what weâre doing right now that we donât want to get too far ahead of ourselves. Weâve played three games, weâve won two of them. At the end of the day, weâre 2-1 and thatâs the only stat that matters and we know that. We know that you go into the details of what happens in each game and thereâs things that we do well and thereâs things that we can work on. And thatâs really what weâre focused on the most is how we can keep improving and keep getting better and ultimately just become the best team we can each Sunday.â
Maybe that other shoe starts descending against the Cowboys. They are arguably the best team in the NFC and will have the benefit of playing in front of the 100,000 fans that will cram Jerryâs World.
It wouldnât be a shock. Conventional wisdom suggests thatâs exactly what will happen. Heck, in some necks of the woods, itâs the odds-on favorite outcome.
The Wise Guys have the Cowboys winning by nearly a touchdown, and youâd be hardpressed to find anyone who has the Rams strolling into AT&T Stadium and robbing the place before high-tailing it back to L.A. sitting pretty at 3-1 with the Seahawks coming to town next week.
Best to roll with the odds on this one, if only to insulate your heart from a weekâs worth of misery.
Right? Not so fast.
If you trust your instincts and believe your eyes you fully understand things are different with the Rams this year.
That makes hope real and elevated expectations warranted.
Other than past history, which has zero to do with what will happen Sunday in Texas, there is really no compelling argument to be made against the Rams going toe to toe with the Cowboys and returning home with a victory.
Your eyes are not deceiving you. This is real.
Whatâs done isnât just done. Itâs quite revealing.
Goff is emerging as a very good quarterback. And he will keep getting better.
The Rams didnât just flip their wide receiver group from last year by deleting a handful of names and replacing them with others. They improved the position dramatically by adding dependability and professionalism in Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp and explosiveness in Sammy Watkins. Andrew Whitworth and John Sullivan have been game changers on the offensive line. You talk to people in the NFL, and there is high praise for the job McVay and his staff have done in offensive schemes, imagination and play calling.
And while the defense has yet to hit its stride under new coordinator Wade Phillips, there is enough talent on hand to suggest theyâll eventually get things stabilized on that side of the ball.
The Rams donât just feel different this year. They are different.
And there is no reason to think they canât go to Texas and beat the Cowboys.
Let the Rams play the perspective game. Itâs the right approach. The prudent thing to do.
But if youâre a Rams fan turning on the TV Sunday morning, remember this: This is a different team than the one youâve been watching the last decade or so. Your eyes arenât deceiving you. Your instincts are sound.
If you want to play it careful, go ahead.
But deep down you know things have changed.
This is a winnable game.
There, I said it.
znModeratorRams front 7 v. Ezekiel Elliott
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NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/public/article/2017/09/29/0ap3000000853536.htm
If I told you in June that Jared Goff would rank in the top three in the NFL in completion percentage (70.4), yards per attempt (10.1), and passer rating (118.2) as we hit October, you would have likely fallen off your chair laughing. The Sean McVay effect, however, has the second-year passer looking like a rising quarterback. Gone are the jittery hitches and deer-in-headlights plays. Instead, McVay has schemed his quarterback easy throws into wide-open windows and Goff is making plays with confidence. The Cowboys secondary looks like a 21st-century version of M*A*S*H right now, which provides Goff with an optimal matchup on paper. First, however, the Rams will need to find a way to block game-wrecker DeMarcus Lawrence.
Dak Prescott is systematically dismantling any lingering concerns about his ability to carry the Cowboys offense. With a running game that has suffered fits and starts this season and an offensive line not as dominant as a year ago, Prescott has been a marvel. The second-year quarterback is nearly unstoppable when on the move. Against a Rams defense that boasts Aaron Donald in the middle, expect the Cowboys to move Prescott’s pocket often Sunday, putting pressure on L.A.’s secondary with his feet and arm. The Rams have been gashed on the ground to the tune of 139.0 yards per game this season (fourth-worst in the NFL), so Sunday should be a get-right game for Ezekiel Elliott.
NFL Research stat of the week: DeMarcus Lawrence leads the NFL in sacks (6.5) and QB hits (10) this season. The last Dallas player to lead NFL in sacks was DeMarcus Ware (15.5, 2010). Lawrence earned the most sacks by a Cowboy in the first three games of a season since 1982.
znModeratorBobCarl of RFU:
I JUST WATCHED THE THREE GAMES THAT DALLAS PLAYED THIS YEAR.
On offense, Dallas mostly does zone blocking. Passing, they do a lot of roll outs and misdirection and slant patterns. They will mix in a screen here and there. Prescott loves to throw at one-on-one pairings, also expect a play or two where Prescott calls his own number.
The DBs play “bend don’t break”. Dallas linebackers are dominant, and rarely miss a tackle. #50 Lee is a stud, the zone coverage they mostly use hides his lack of speed. Look for McVay will find a way to expose this.
Dallas got burned by receivers coming out of the backfield, screens, and passes in the flats. In the Red-Zone, they are most vunerable in the back corners of the endzone.
Stopping the run is the key to winning this game. Elliott is patient behind the zone blocking and if he doesn’t find a cut-back lane, he will streak to the outside. If the Rams can keep containment to the outside, then they will pile up tackles for a loss.
Dallas is beatable.
znModeratorGoff’s numbers on the medium range passes are very good. I keep saying it but it bears repeating–right now, that’s the team strength. The team strength, not just offensive strength. Big plays thrown in the 11-25 yard range.
I can;t do the numbers on that because espn splits are always a game behind.
BUT there’s another metric from a different source.
Big play passes over 25 yards. (This stat doesn’t distinguish between in the air v. YAC yardage).
On that stat, Goff is presently second to Brady, with 10 in 3 games. Brady is first with 12. There are only 3 qbs with double digits—Brady, Goff, and Rodgers (also with 10).
In fact there are only 7 qbs with more than 6 of those.
znModeratorThanks H.
Without overdoing it, I like to consolidate threads so we don’t disperse things on the 1st page. That drives other threads down.
Right now the merge function doesn’t work so I have to sometimes ask guys to move posts. I don’t want to over do that, either.
I get that sometimes posters can’t tell when a topic is already going.
If I can do it that way, I try to favor the new post. That only works if the already-going thread has only me in it. Then I can move everything to the new or or just delete mine.
Anyway I won’t ask this that much but I appreciate the help when I think I should ask.
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September 30, 2017 at 2:07 pm in reply to: pre-Dallas: injury updates, roster moves, n stuff like that #75241
znModeratorlink: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/09/29/award-shows-rams-todd-gurley-is-back-on-top/
VINCENT BONSIGNORE
RAMS OFFENSE MOSTLY HEALTHY
The Rams could be at full strength against the Cowboys with wide receivers Sammy Watkins and Tavon Austin clearing concussion protocol and returning to practice this week. The only question mark is center John Sullivan, who is questionable with a hip injury.
The return of Watkins, in particular, is big as heâs coming off a monster game against the 49ers in which he caught six balls for 106 yards and two touchdowns. It was his best game since joining the Rams, and his presence changes the way opponents defend them.
âI feel pretty good,â Watkins said. âI had two good days of practice. I remember the plays. Iâm back to my normal self.â
For Watkins, dealing with the first concussion of his career was a bit scary.
âIt felt weird. Iâd never had that feeling,â Watkins said. âSo I was worried about my head, more than anything.
âOnce I got up and was walking, I knew something was wrong. It felt like someone was kind of walking for me. I was like, ahh, somethingâs wrong with my head. But after awhile it went away.â
DEFENSE BANGED UP
The Rams will welcome back starting cornerback Kayvon Webster against the Cowboys after he missed the past two games with a shoulder injury.
Thatâs the good news.
The bad news is theyâll be without starting safety Lamarcus Joyner and back-up safety Cody Davis showed up on the injury report Friday with a quad injury. As a result, the Rams could be dipping deep into their safety population Sunday.
âWell, we feel good about the depth that we do have at the safety position,â McVay said. âYou look at Maurice Alexander, John Johnson is continuing to improve and Blake Countess, so those three guys. If thatâs the case, Marqui Christian is available as well, so weâll evaluate that. Lamarcus will be out. Weâre optimistic about Cody, but heâs questionable for the game right now.â
znModeratorAward shows Ramsâ Todd Gurley is back on top
VINCENT BONSIGNORE
link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/09/29/award-shows-rams-todd-gurley-is-back-on-top/
ptember 29, 2017 at 9:10 pm
It sort of came and went with a whimper. And itâs not like anyone gets hung up on in-season recognition. Player of the Week honors. Player of the Month recognition. Itâs nice and all. But not exactly what players and teams focus on.But it is worth remembering, at least as it relates to Todd Gurley being named the NFLâs Offensive Player of the Month, just how far he fell last year in his regrettable sophomore season and just how far heâs climbed back up this year. Which makes this distinction mean just a little bit more.
âFor sure. Like I said, you have your ups and downs in this game. Every year is not going to be a good year and, obviously, I figured that out last year,â Gurley said. âAll you can do is move forward, just keep working hard, control what you can control and just take it day-by-day preparation, and once the season comes you just let all the anger out that you had and that you worked hard for in the offseason. So, thatâs why I felt like Iâve been doing a great job of doing now.â
Gurley ran for 241 yards and four touchdowns in September while adding 13 catches for 140 yards and two scores. In the process, heâs helped the Rams solidify a respectable ground game the last two games while also being a productive asset in the passing game.
The Rams, partially as a result, have been the NFLâs best offense over the first three games while averaging a league-high 35.7 points per game.
âThereâs a lot of other really great players in this league and a lot of guys that did an excellent job in the NFC offensively, but anytime you get an award like that, weâre very happy for Todd,â Rams head coach Sean McVay said. âItâs a reflection of the offensive unit as a whole. He certainly has done a lot of great individual things, but a lot of that stuff doesnât occur without great blocking up front, good job by (QB) Jared (Goff) distributing the ball in the pass game, making sure weâre not running into some of those bad looks.
âTodd will be the first to tell you, heâs got high expectations for himself and what you feel good about with that award is that is a reflection of the unit as a whole and I think those guys have done a nice job. But, itâs three games and weâve got a lot of football left to be played and we know that in this business itâs a very humbling game where itâs, âWhat have you done for me lately?â And weâve got a great challenge against a very good defensive opponent for the offense and for Todd and those guys are doing a good job this week of getting ready for that.â
Gurleyâs production this year can be partially traced to the significant upgrades the Rams made on the offensive line, adding left tackle Andrew Whitworth and center John Sullivan, a much better receiving corps with Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Tavon Austin and Gerald Everett. It was important to McVay he didnât prejudge Gurley based on last year before assessing him alongside the improvements.
âWhen you look at Todd, what you want to make sure is that instead of just looking at the numbers, you watch the tape and really see whatâs the reason for why you think maybe things didnât go the way that you wanted last year,â McVay said. âWhat you see when you watch the two years that heâs been in the league, before you get with him is you see an excellent talent and you see a guy that has got great natural run instincts, fearless competitor.
âSo, to say that youâre surprised by this, the way that heâs worked day-in and day-out, youâre not surprised because those are the expectations that you have for a great player like Todd. To answer your question though, you didnât have any worry that he wasnât the guy that he was his rookie year just based on the numbers and the production â still had a whole lot of confidence in him and thatâs been merited by what heâs done so far.â
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znModeratorif i could fault fisher, itâd be mainly 2 things.
1. he never found that left tackle to anchor the offensive line. i was on board with the grob pick. and if he could have lived up to his potential, wow. that woulda been a homerun. in retrospect, lewan was probably the guy to draft.
2. he never could get that number one receiver. and that was a problem. a big problem. instead, he had that numbskull britt.
No argument from me. (Except until he got 2 consecutive knee injuries Long played pretty well. It’s just that the qb in 2013 was mostly Clemens.)

znModeratorPlus as you said he inherited 3 key players. At least 3.
oh yeah. i forgot. he also signed in 2012 the greatest punter the world has ever known. johnny hekker.
4 then.

znModeratorGame Preview: Rams, Cowboys to Face Off in Week 4
Kristen Lago
The Rams will be on the road for the second-straight week this Sunday as they travel to Arlington to take on the Cowboys at AT&T Stadium. The Week 4 contest brings together two teams that share a rich history and rivalry together, dating back to their first game in 1960.
âIâve always been a fan of the game [and] you have an appreciation for whatâs taken place before,â first-year head coach Sean McVay said of the history between teams. âI think that embracing that history is part of it, [but] I also think itâs important to know that this is a storied franchise on both ends and weâve got a great challenge.â
The series has spanned 57 years and 32 games, but Sunday will mark the first regular-season since 2014, when the Cowboys mounted a comeback to defeat the Rams 34-31.
However, this seasonâs contest will look a bit different from the last. Dallasâ offense now features the dynamic duo of quarterback Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott and the team is coming off a 13-3 finish, while Los Angeles enters the game under a different coaching staff and with many new faces on both sides of the ball.
âWhat coach Garrettâs done with his team, itâs going to be a great challenge and an excellent atmosphere,â McVay said. âAnd I know our guys are looking forward to it.â
One thing the two teams will have in common entering Week 4 is their records, as both the Cowboys and the Rams will look to improve to 3-1. But after recording a 4-12 record last year, itâs Los Angeles that has the most to prove. Not only does the team sit in sole possession of the top spot in the NFC West, but also the offense as a whole has shown immense improvement under McVay.
âWe know that weâre going to have to be at our best to get our third win against an excellent Cowboys team,â he said. âThey go 13-3 last year, 7-1 at home, with great road win for them this week. Iâve got a lot of respect for this organization and head coach Jason Garrett, just from having gone against them a couple times a year, so itâs going to be a great challenge for us.â
The tough matchup against the Cowboys â highly regarded as one of the leagueâs top-tier programs â should provide a benchmark test of sorts for the Rams as they enter the second quarter of the season.
âItâs an opportunity for us to go up against a great team and see where we are and how far we have come,â Gurley said. âEvery week you have to come with it and if you can finish, this is the first quarter of the season. If you can finish 3-1, you are going to be right where you want to be.â
The Rams are currently the league’s highest-scoring team through three games with 107 points and quarterback Jared Goff has looked vastly improved over his rookie season. Goff enters Sundayâs game with 817 passing yards, five touchdowns and just one interception, while running back Todd Gurley was named Septemberâs NFC Offensive Player of the Month after recording an 149-yard, three touchdown performance in Week 3.
An improved receiving corps and offensive line has also bolstered the offense through the addition of dynamic playmakers like Robert Woods and Sammy Watkins as well as strong veterans on the line like center John Sullivan and left tackle Andrew Whitworth.
And though the Cowboys strong suit is their offense, the Rams will still need to be ready for a tough Dallas defense. On the offensive line, expect the right side â comprised of right guard Jamon Brown and right tackle Rob Havenstein â to be challenged by defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence. The NFC Defensive Player of the Month has 6.5 sacks this season and has been one of the most consistent players on the Cowboysâ defensive line.
âI think when you just flip on the tape, heâs a scary player,â McVay said. âExcellent effort, heâs got a variety of ways that he can get to the quarterback and they move him around, I think he plays the run very well as well. Heâs done a great job by winning his one-on-ones and thatâs what the great players in this league do and heâs certainly playing like that right now.â
And although Gurley may not need to worry about linebacker Sean Lee â who will be a gametime decision for Sunday â middle linebacker Jaylon Smith is also a dominant force on the Dallas defense. In Monday nightâs game against the Cardinals, Smith recorded seven tackles and a forced fumble.
In the secondary, Ramsâ receivers will face a young, but challenging group of cornerbacks and safeties including Jourdan Lewis and Xavier Woods. The duo combined for nine tackles and two pass deflections in Week 3.
âI mean, they do a lot of different things. Theyâre very multiple and have changed some of the stuff theyâve done,â Goff said. âThey mix up coverages, mix up fronts, mix up blitzes and do a good job of it. I think theyâre talented in all three phases.â
â[Theyâre] a good defense, we see them flying around,â Woods said. âA fast defense and theyâre able to just disguise [their coverages]. They play solid, fly to the ball and they are a fast group of guys that like to attack the quarterback and attack the ball.â
While Dallasâ does boast a strong defense, the real challenge for the Rams does not lie with their offense. Instead, defensive coordinator Wade Phillips and the Los Angeles defense will have to answer a tough question come Sunday: Can the Rams defense stop Prescott and a high-powered Cowboysâ offense?
â[Itâs] a premiere challenge,â defensive coordinator and former Cowboysâ head coach Wade Phillips said. âYou know, when youâre playing a really good offensive team, thatâs when you have to step up and be a really good defensive team. I think weâll get better in some of the areas that we need to, but weâll find out.â
The Ramsâ defense has been a bit up-and-down this season, starting off the season on a high against the Colts, but allowing a combined 66 points and 806 yards in their last two games. But many players, like defensive tackle Aaron Donald, do not seem worried.
âI feel like it wasnât as bad as we thought,â Donald said of last weekâs performance against the 49ers. âWe definitely made a lot of mistakes here and there. But itâs nothing that we canât clean up. And Iâd rather it happen now â early â than later. So weâre going to be good.â
Fortunately for the Rams this week, outside linebacker Connor Barwin has a lot of experience playing against the Cowboys and had some tips on how to stop the formidable Dallasâ offense, led by Prescott and Elliott.
âIn my experience last year, the quarterback is the real deal,â Barwin said. âHe can really do it all. He can make plays from outside the pocket, he can make plays from inside the pocket and then he can make plays with his feet. So we will have to be at our best against him.â
âItâs a common theme â You stop them, you stop them, and then a guy gets out of their gap and Ezekiel will crease you for a 40-yard run,â he continued. â We would play really well against him at times, but as soon as one guy makes a mistake up front, Ezekiel is great at getting north very quickly. So itâs about being focused and physical for the entire game, for 60 snaps not 50 snaps and that is how you stop the run.â
In the secondary, one matchup to watch this week will be between cornerback Trumaine Johnson and wide receiver Dez Bryant. Though Dallas has a slew of other offensive weapons, including tight end Jason Witten, stopping Bryant will be a No. 1 priority for the Rams and Johnson seemed ready for the challenge after practice on Thursday.
âHeâs a competitor and heâs a dog,â Johnson said. âI have been playing Dez since I have been in the league and I will have to be aggressive with him, I have to be ready to compete and itâs going to be fun. I canât wait.â
Overall, Week 4 should be one of the toughest games the Rams have faced thus far and could come down to a series of key matchups on both sides. Kickoff for the Rams vs. Cowboys is set for 10 A.M. To find out where you can watch the contest, click here.
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znModeratorI think you always have. I donât believe in âhistorical inevitability/necessityâ and Iâve mentioned that several times.
And that is not what I said BT. Or anything like it.
You’re misreading as much as you seem to conclude I am.
People misread all the time. It’s the net, it happens. It’s part of the net. You’re doing it now, in what I quote. It’s not something we take umbrage at, or get personal about. People either straighten it out assuming good faith, or they drop the subject.
znModeratorJoyner IS out. I read that somewhere. Dunno about Davis
Davis is probably out too. But not definitively.
Complicating Joyner situation a bit, McVay said S Cody Davis has âa tweak in his quad.â Team optimistic, but Davis is questionable for Sun.
— Myles Simmons (@MylesASimmons) September 29, 2017
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Rams could be doing a safety dance against Cowboys. https://t.co/yc8jkGofEJ
— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) September 29, 2017
znModeratorBasically, you completely miss that I AM talking about pragmatics, practical matters, in context, and how things function with other competing factions, views, policies, programs, etc. etc. historically.
Not the same way I do. You have a tight view of historical logic, one that can lead to rational deductions. I just don’t think that way, like at all. The only thing in common there is the word “history,” which then in each of our cases means something completely different. When I say “history” I do not mean the same thing you do. For me history is not something that produces a logic and a pattern that can support rational deductions about what will determinatively work in the future.
And…this isn’t me “arguing.” Just talking about how I see things. There’s really nothing there to take umbrage at. Or if it were an argument there would never be a “winner.” Just 2 people comparing how differently they see things.
So please stop looking for “malice” in my posts, that’s just you putting it there when it’s not there. I am not “reducing” anything to anything. I am picking up on a strand in your approach to things that looks a certain way to me, and maps out as completely opposite to a strand in my thinking. So REALLY what I am doing is picking out something and saying “I can’t go there.” Me doing that doesn’t work if you keep seeing it as an attack, or a misread, or an insult, or whatever. That’s not happening. I am just conversing. You got it in your head somewhere that I am trying to label you as something. As a result of that being in your head, our conversations just don’t work. So do me a favor and assume nothing is negative in my responses to you, because nothing is negative in my responses to you, and just converse in return.
znModeratori think firing him was most likely the right move, but i donât have animosity toward him.
I agree with that. Plus I will always think that if he had a starting caliber qb together with a relatively healthy OL most of the time, that he would have done better.
Is McVay a better coach? I think so. But then I also think he’s a better coach than a LOT of guys.
I also think Goff was THAT green last year.
A lot of people put everything on Fisher.
But turn it around. As good as he is, McVay benefits from a lot of things.
* Gurley fell off last year. He came back strong.
* Goff was a rookie last year, and an especially green one. Now, he’s not.
* Lots of holdover players realize they fell off last year and are looking to redeem themselves.
* They aren’t moving this year. That’s over with.Plus as you said he inherited 3 key players. At least 3.
That is not supposed to take anything away from MCV, because he plays the cards he was dealt very well, but he was dealt a lot of good cards too.
znModeratorâSocialismsâ require, simply due to cause and effect, a certain measure of space to be what they are, and without that space and the absence of conflicting factors, theyâre just not âeffectiveâ to the degree they can be â if at all.
Well on that I don’t agree though I certainly recognize it’s one of the positions in the “many positions on this” universe I was alluding to.
As a rule you will find that I will always be at least somewhat against the idea that reason can sit here and predetermine in advance what is best and what isn’t. That’s why I always add that history is messy. I always side with the historians over the philosophers. I don’t believe in the validity of just deducing “correct concepts.” I’ve said that many times here in fact. It’s just quite simply an inveterate part of how I see things.
And history also tells us that there are philosopher’s who are dedicated to deductive reasoning from and and about pure concepts that way. So if I am going to say it’s a big world with lots of disparate views one this, that is certainly one of them.
But I always vote on the side of pragmatic open-endedness when it comes to that. I will always see the act of reason deducing things from pure concepts as something I just cannot endorse or accept.
That’s just who I am when it comes to these things.
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znModeratorTake the Rams over Cowboys
http://nypost.com/2017/09/28/take-the-rams-over-cowboys/
Rams (+6) over COWBOYS: After too many years of broad mediocrity under Jeff Fisher, Rams hierarchy let Fisher go last season during franchiseâs first year back in Los Angeles. New coach Sean McVay appears the jockey change highly regarded young QB Jared Goff needed, as the Rams are off to encouraging 2-1 start. Cowboys won their opener, but after getting drilled in Denver, were not impressive wrestling the Cardinals into submission Monday. âBoys have underperformed for years off Monday nighters, and it appears coaching adjustments and slick drafts could take this Rams talent base a long way. L.A. Express picking up steam ⊠hop aboard these Rams, for one unit.
znModeratorConcern Surrounds Cowboys OL Heading Into Week 4
link: https://insidethestar.com/concern-surrounds-cowboys-ol-heading-week-4/
After the first three weeks, the 2-1 Dallas Cowboys are in pretty good shape heading into week four. In the first three games weâve slowly but surely seen the defense get better, Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott have found their grooves, and the play calling has improved. What has yet to improve, that Iâm sure surprises us all, is the offensive line.
Through three weeks, itâs not an exaggeration to say that the offensive line has been the worst position group on the team. Trust me, I canât believe Iâm saying that either.
In recent years weâve seen the OL struggle in maybe one aspect of the game for a game or two, but two weeks in a row the Dallas OL has been bad across the board. The first question that will always get brought up is, are they struggling because of the departures of Doug Free and Ronald Leary?
While that certainly doesnât help the cause, Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick, and Zack Martin havenât been playing at the All-Pro level weâre used to seeing. If I had to guess, itâs likely due to each lineman feeling out the new man beside him.
If you didnât know this yet, you do now. Each Cowboysâ offensive lineman has never played in a regular season game lined up beside the teammate heâs currently playing alongside, other than Travis Frederick and Zack Martin. Even then, Frederick has a new face at left guard in Chaz Green.
When Laâel Collins was the starting left guard, he was lined up between Tyron Smith and Travis Frederick. When Chaz Green played left tackle last year, filling in for Tyron Smith, he lined up beside Ronald Leary. Tyron Smith has very few reps playing alongside Chaz Green and Zack Martin has very few reps playing alongside Laâel Collins.Why does that matter? Playing offensive line is all about knowing when and where your teammates are going to be and who they are going to block.
For example, Travis Frederick never used to worry about passing his man off to Ron Leary. Tyron Smith never had to worry about giving Ron Leary some help inside while also dealing with whoever is screaming off the edge.
The main reason behind that is because those five guys had played so many snaps together as a unit. So far this year, that has changed. Each lineman is having more responsibilities helping each other out.
The current five starters have only played three regular season games together and are still feeling each other out. The first team unit didnât get many reps together in preseason due to injury concerns with both Tyron Smith and Chaz Green.
So we should all probably pump the breaks on the worrying just a little bitSo far it hasnât been pretty, but eventually this OL will figure it out.It may take another week or two to fully gel, but I personally donât think this is a long-term issue. We saw at the end of the Arizona game that Dak Prescott was getting more time to pass, and Ezekiel Elliottâs running lanes were opening up more and more.
The Dallas Cowboys offensive line hasnât had it easy the first three weeks by any means, facing three of the better defensive lines in the NFL. It doesnât get any easier this week when the Aaron Donald-led Los Angeles Rams come to town on Sunday.
znModeratoroldschoolramfan wrote:
Jackie Slater remembers a story……
“It was Nov. 15th, 1992 and the Rams were playing the Cowboys at Texas Stadium. The Rams were 2 touchdown underdogs and the team knew that the coach was not happy about that.”
Slater continues……”Coach Knox walks in to the locker room and just looked at us for a long time. Then, he finally say’s, 14-point underdogs? And then, he spits on the floor, put his cap on and walked out to the field. Nothing else needed to be said.”The Rams beat the Cowboys 27-23 that day.
That was the last time the LOS ANGELES RAMS played the Dallas Cowboys……..25 years later, they meet in Dallas on Sunday to revive one of the NFL’s best rivalries.
znModeratorThe last pass of Staubachâs HOF career fell harmlessly to the turf as Jack Youngblood drove him into the concrete floor of Texas Stadium.
Even further…here’s his last completion: ‘
Who Caught ROGER STAUBACH’S Last Pass?
Roger “completed” his last career pass to Herb Scott in a 21-19 playoff loss to the Los Angeles Rams in Texas Stadium on December 30, 1979.
However, because Scott was a lineman, the completion was to an ineligible receiver; the completion was thus waived off and the Cowboys were penalized with a loss of down.
znModeratorRams still figuring out things on defense, but with Dallas coming up, they better hurry
RICH HAMMONDTHOUSAND OAKS â Itâs not time to worry about the Ramsâ defense. Give that another couple days.
Thus far, the scheme of new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips has underwhelmed. The Rams rank 26th in the NFL in points allowed per game (25.0) and 22nd in yards allowed (343.7), and last week the Rams ended up in a shootout against a San Francisco team that previously hadnât scored a touchdown.
The challenge doesnât get easier this Sunday, as the Rams travel to face a balanced Dallas offense that includes quarterback Dak Prescott, running back Ezekiel Elliott and tight end Jason Witten.
âWe look at it as a big challenge,â Phillips said after Thursdayâs practice at Cal Lutheran. âI think weâll see a lot about our team this week, as far as where we are, to match up against that premier offense.â
The Rams clearly are having some issues. After their dominating season-opening game against an Indianapolis team that lacked its quarterback and center, the Rams allowed 27 points and 385 yards in a loss to Washington, then 39 points and 421 yards in a way-too-close victory over the 49ers.
Run defense remains an issue, cornerbacks have been beat on big plays and, last week, the 49ers converted on nine of their 18 third-down attempts.
On the other hand, Phillips pointed out that special-teams miscues sent the Ramsâ defense onto the field in unusual circumstances multiple times, and Phillips said the unit would get a boost from the expected return of starting cornerback Kayvon Webster, who missed two games with a shoulder injury.
Phillips also hinted that the Rams might move Michael Brockers, who has been one of the most productive players up front, away from nose tackle and to a defensive tackle role.
âA premier challenge,â Phillips said of Dallas. âWhen youâre playing a really good offensive team, thatâs when you have to step up and be a good defensive team. I think weâll get better in some of the areas we need to, but weâll find out. Thatâs why we play the games, to see what happens. But I like our group.â
Phillipsâ recent history shows that early-season struggles, when he takes over and transitions a team from a 4-3 defense to a 3-4 front, are not uncommon.
In 2011, Phillips took over an awful Houston defense. In the third game of that season, the Texans allowed 40 points and 454 yards in a loss to New Orleans. Houston finished that season ranked fourth in points allowed (17.4 per game) and second in yards (285.7).
In 2004, Phillipsâ San Diego defense allowed an average of 28 points in its first three games. The Chargers finished that season 11th in the league, with an average of 19.6 points allowed per game.
Even in Denver in 2015, when Phillips took over what had been a fairly stout defense, the Broncos twice allowed 40-plus points. So while these early bumps for the Rams shouldnât automatically cause panic, another bad week or two might counter the narrative that Phillips is a turnaround artist.
âIt goes both ways,â Phillips said. âOne year we started 0-3 in Buffalo and made the playoffs. Then, I think in Denver in our first game we gave up 170 yards. Itâs all about how you play and who youâre playing, too. Iâm looking forward to this one.â
In his last four stops as defensive coordinator (Denver, Houston, San Diego and Atlanta), Phillips has improved his teamsâ points-against and yards-against totals in the first year. Not since 2005 has a Phillips-coached defense finished out of the NFLâs top 10 in points and yards.
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