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znModeratorMy son texted me something from NextGen Stats on NFL.com. Apparently Goff makes fewer throws into tight windows than any other passer in the league. Cousins last year made the second-fewest tight window throws.
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znModeratorRams are in for a playoff-like test with Vikings as some of the NFC’s best face off
Gary Klein
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-vikings-20171118-story.html
Minutes after last week’s victory over the Houston Texans — his team’s fourth consecutive win — Rams coach Sean McVay neared the end of his postgame speech in the Coliseum locker room.
McVay was already looking ahead, telling players who had forged a 7-2 record that they had a “great NFC matchup” coming up in Minnesota against a Vikings team with the same record.
“Great opportunity to see if we can be our best, when our best is required against a great team,” McVay said.
On Sunday at U.S. Bank Stadium, the Rams get another chance to prove that they are playoff worthy, and that they should remain in the conversation for a possible return trip here for the Super Bowl.
The challenge is expected to be their toughest test to date.
The Rams are 5-0 away from Coliseum, including victories over the Dallas Cowboys and the Jacksonville Jaguars, both regarded as possible playoff teams.
But the Rams have not been particularly extended lately.
Their last three wins came against the Arizona Cardinals, the New York Giants and the Texans, injury-depleted teams that have a combined 8-19 record.
Now they face a Vikings team that has won five consecutive games and is in first place in the NFC North.
Rams’ John Sullivan will return to his NFL roots in Minnesota on Sunday, but doesn’t have nostalgia on his mind
Rams receiver Robert Woods described it as an even matchup.“This is about want-to and determination,” Woods said. “Who wants it more?”
The game features quarterbacks Jared Goff and Case Keenum, Rams teammates in 2016.
Goff, the first pick in the 2016 draft, started against the Vikings here in the final preseason game of his rookie season. Keenum and nearly all of the frontline players took the night off.
Goff completed six of 16 passes, including a touchdown, but he had a pass intercepted and lost a fumble. He then stood on the sidelines for nine regular-season games until former coach Jeff Fisher finally turned to the future and replaced Keenum with Goff.
Fourteen months later, Goff returns to Minneapolis as the leader of the NFL’s highest-scoring offense.
Goff faces a defense that ranks fifth in the NFL.
“No weaknesses, really, at every spot,” Goff said.
Former USC lineman Everson Griffen has a team-best 10 sacks for the Vikings.
In assessing the challenge at hand, Rams running back Todd Gurley named every member of the secondary and several linebackers.
“Definitely going to be a handful,” he said.
The Rams’ defense is equally as stout.
After struggling at times early in the season, it has played well since the second half of a Week 4 victory at Dallas.
Lineman Aaron Donald and others will try to rattle Keenum, who is thriving since taking over for injured Sam Bradford.
Keenum passed for four touchdowns, with two interceptions, in last week’s victory over the Washington Redskins.
“I’m the same guy I’ve always been,” Keenum said, “but I feel like I’ve gotten better.”
Keenum, however, faces a Rams defense that knows his strengths, weaknesses and tendencies.
“It’s going to be fun,” cornerback Trumaine Johnson said. “He’s a gunslinger, he really is.”
Rams defensive coordinator Wade Phillips also is familiar with Keenum. Phillips was on the Texans staff — and eventually served as interim coach — when Keenum made eight winless starts for the team in 2013.
But Keenum is on a hot streak now.
Despite Teddy Bridgewater’s recent return from a knee injury that sidelined him for the 2016 season, Vikings coach Mike Zimmer is sticking with Keenum.
A capacity crowd of more than 66,000 is expected to fill one of the NFL’s loudest stadiums for the showdown between division leaders.
The Rams prepped for the noise this week by turning up the music at practice.
“I don’t think you can ever truly mimic exactly what that’s going to be like,” McVay said, adding, “It’s going to be a very challenging environment, especially for us offensively.”
No problem, offensive lineman Jamon Brown said.
“We’ve played in loud places before,” he said. “The goal is to take the crowd out of it early.”
November 18, 2017 at 10:49 pm in reply to: After years of suffering, Saffold basks in the Rams winning #77644
znModerator#LARams LG Saffold had a vintage performance vs. Houston in week 10 showing very good mental processing in pass pro + overwhelming power and rotational strength to move people. Underrated cog in this revamped LAR offense. pic.twitter.com/jXsUJYXlyv
— Brandon Thorn (@VeteranScout) November 14, 2017
znModeratorFunny thing about this team. I KNOW it will be a winning team for years. They have the coaches, they have the players (for the most part or at least they’re almost there).
But right now, it’s also a young team in the first year of a new coach’s program, with a lot of developing to do and a fair amount of question marks.
So while I KNOW they will be a winning team for YEARS, I am not sure if they will win the next couple of games.
And at the same time if they don’t, it won’t change my mind about their longterm outlook.
znModeratorGame Preview: Rams, Vikings to Meet in Matchup of First-Place NFC Teams
Kristen Lago
After a commanding win over the Texans in Week 10, the Rams will look for their fifth-straight victory on Sunday against the Vikings. With both clubs currently boasting 7-2 records, this contest could have significant implications moving forward this season.
And while the Rams have started 2017 with a strong year-to-year turnaround, a tough Minnesota team could present them with their toughest challenge yet — pitting the NFL’s top scoring offense against a Vikings’ defense that is allowing just 18.3 points per game.
“I think so, I think it’s definitely up there,” wide receiver Robert Woods said. “[They have] guys all around who play really well.”
“They present a variety of issues with their schemes and then they’ve got players to match,” head coach Sean McVay echoed. “But, certainly you get excited to go against a great team and a great defense like this.”
Sunday will mark the 37th contest between the two franchises in series history. The last time the Rams and Vikings faced each other was in 2015 at TCF Bank Stadium — the Golden Gophers stadium where the Vikings played for two years while U.S. Bank Stadium was under construction. Kicker Greg Zuerlein connected on a career long 61-yard field goal that day, but the Vikings still earned a 21-18 overtime win.
This time around, Minnesota will face a turned over Rams roster, as just 18 players remain from that 2015 team. In Week 11, Los Angeles will look to break the Vikings’ four-game win streak over the Rams. And the visitors will do their best to preserve their own undefeated record away from the Coliseum.
“This is one of the few stadiums I have not been to yet,” McVay said. “They do a great job utilizing that home field advantage defensively with some of the things that they do, so that’s going to be a great challenge for us.”
While the Rams will be in unfamiliar territory at U.S. Bank Stadium, they will be up against a very familiar face in Vikings starting quarterback, Case Keenum. Keenum spent the last two years with the Rams — and parts of the 2014 season as well — before signing with Minnesota in early April.
As such, Sunday’s contest will pit the Rams former quarterback against many of his old teammates.
“There’s no weirdness,” right guard Jamon Brown. “When a guy leaves the team and goes to another team, we wish him the best and one thing Case has done is he’s had some success over there. We’re ready to see what he’s got.”
Keenum has had a very successful season with the Vikings after taking over for an injured Sam Bradford in Week 2. Since then, he has led Minnesota to a five-game win streak, completing 64.9 percent of his passes for 1,914 yards and 11 touchdowns, including a career-best 304 yards and four touchdowns last weekend.
“It starts with Case,” cornerback Trumaine Johnson said. “Case is a mobile quarterback that can make plays on his feet. He gets out of the pocket and makes plays down the field.”
But Keenum won’t be the only member of the Vikings offense to keep an eye on. Minnesota’s offense also includes the dynamic wide receiver duo of Stefon Diggs and Adam Thielen, who have combined for over 1,200 yards and 7 touchdowns this season.
“Thielen and Diggs are both outstanding receivers,” defensive coordinator Wade Phillips said. “I believe Diggs was leading the league [in receiving yards] before he got hurt and now Thielen’s right up there, so that tells you what they can do. They’re a handful, [so] we’re going to have to win some one-on-ones or play good zone coverage in certain downs.”
For the Rams’ defense, another important factor heading into Sunday’s game will be to remain aggressive and get after the football. Last week, the unit forced four takeaways and currently lead the league with 19 turnovers overall.
“It’s a direct correlation to wins and losses,” middle linebacker Alec Ogletree said of the takeaways. “For us, if we’re leading [in takeaways] we’ve really been undefeated. So it’s definitely something you look at and you try to do.”
Offensively, L.A. has continued to roll, averaging a league-high 32.9 points per game. Quarterback Jared Goff is coming into Sunday’s contest fresh off of the best performance of his career, where he threw for 355 yards and three touchdowns with no interceptions.
“It looks like he’s a lot more comfortable in the things that they’re doing offensively,” Vikings’ head coach Mike Zimmer said. “Pressure doesn’t seem to faze him. It just looks like to me that he’s seeing things so much better. It looks like the game has really slowed down for him.”
But as Goff has said, the Vikings’ defense is one of the most formidable in the league. He said he feels Sunday will be the biggest test the Rams have faced this season.
“They’re tremendous on defense. No weaknesses, really, at every spot,” Goff said. “Upfront, the D-line, their linebackers are really good and the secondary, they’re really special too.”
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PHOTOS: Week 11 Practice“They’re great, everybody is great on their defense,” running back Todd Gurley added. “You have a great front seven and some great defensive backs with safety Harrison Smith and cornerback Xavier Rhodes [who] have been playing lights out this year. Linebackers Anthony Barr, Eric Kendricks — [it’s] definitely going to be handful this week for sure.”
As Gurley referenced above, the Vikings defense is stacked with playmakers.
Defensive end Everson Griffen ranks No. 3 with 10.0 total sacks this season, while the defensive unit as a whole ranks among the top five in both passing (294.6) and rushing (81.3) yards allowed per game. In the secondary, Minnesota has one of the best cornerbacks in the league in Rhodes, while Smith has been a force to be reckoned with, as well.
“They’re a complete team and you can see why,” McVay said. “These guys are highly rated because they’re playing really good football [and are] efficient in all three phases. They’ve got great players to match good schemes, so it presents a great challenge for our guys.”
Overall, Sunday’s contest between the Rams and Vikings should be one of the best and most evenly-matched games of the week. Kickoff for the Week 11 contest is set for 10:00 a.m. and will be broadcast live on Fox.
znModeratorRams Power Rankings: Week 11
Kristen Lago
The Rams will be on the road this week travelling to Minnesota to take on the Vikings in an NFC North vs. NFC West matchup. After a commanding 33-7 win over the Texans at the Coliseum, L.A. will be looking for its fifth consecutive win on Sunday.
Every week, TheRams.com will be taking an aggregate look at where the team ranks in different outlets across the sports media landscape. Here are the power rankings for the Rams heading into Week 11:
NFL.com, Elliot Harrison Rank: 2Last Week: 2
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“Somebody tell the Rams they can lose now. Nobody seems to like that they’re batting in the two-hole in these rankings. But they’re the perfect Mark McLemore. Sorry, dated baseball reference to a player who was a nice No. 2 hitter for a while. Ah, but so many Rams are sacrificing for their teammates, starting with the members of the offensive line. Oft-maligned in 2016, the group has been far improved in 2017. Andrew Whitworth was a brilliant free-agent signing (steal). The unit as a whole helped L.A. gain 6.7 yards per play against Houston on Sunday. That’s quite a robust figure. Even if the Rams did allow a few tackles for losses, most of those came on the final drive, with L.A. running out the clock into 99-man fronts. Thought it was time to spread the credit around.”
ESPN.com Rank: 7
Last Week: 7
Change: –
“Projected wins: 11.0. The Rams have scored at least 30 points in six games this season, the most in the NFL. The improvement on offense is the biggest reason they’re now projected to win five more games than predicted in the preseason.”
Yahoo! Shutdown Corner Rank: 4
Last Week: 5
Change: 1
“The Rams’ offense is getting a lot of attention, and for obvious reasons. But did you know the Rams defense hasn’t given up more than 17 points since Oct. 1? Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips was always a good bet to have a good first season with the Rams, it just took a little longer than expected.”
The Washington Post Rank: 4
Last Week: 4
Change: –
“The Rams have games left against the Vikings, Saints, Eagles and Seahawks. It should be pretty clear by the end of the regular season exactly how they measure up against the NFC’s other top contenders.”
USA Today Rank: 4
Last Week: 4
Change: –
“Raise your hand if you thought Robert Woods would be the most impactful former Buffalo receiver GM Les Snead acquired before this season.”
Bleacher Report Rank: 6
Last Week: 5
Change: – 1
“Sean McVay is the hottest play-caller in the NFL. Because of him, the Rams have to be in the discussion for having the most surgical offense in the sport—along with New England.”
“The L.A. defense can create chaos up front, and it can create turnovers. This fits right in with what the Rams want to do as a team. Do you want to get into a track meet with the Rams and try matching them point for point? I don’t think anyone does. We’ll see just how good this Rams team is in the coming weeks. They’ll play the Saints, Eagles and Vikings within the next month.”
CBS Sports, Pete Prisco Rank: 4
Last Week: 4
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“They continue to roll up big numbers on offense. That unit faces a major test at Minnesota this week.”
Sports Illustrated Rank: 5
Last Week: 6
Change: 1
Pro Football Talk, Mike Florio Rank: 4
Last Week: 4
Change: –
THIS WEEK’S OPPONENT’S RANKS — THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS
NFL.com — 6
ESPN.com — 6
Yahoo! Shutdown Corner — 8
Pro Football Talk — 5
The Washington Post — 6
USA Today — 8
CBS Sports — 6
Bleacher Report — 5
Sports Illustrated — 6
znModeratorPFT’s Week 11 picks
Mike Florio
Rams at Vikings
MDS’s take: Jared Goff takes on Case Keenum in a matchup of two quarterbacks who look great this year after looking terrible as teammates with the Rams last year. This game feels like a coin flip to me, but I’ll take the home team.
MDS’s pick: Vikings 23, Rams 20.
Florio’s take: Game of the week. A rematch of some classic playoff contests, between a pair of teams that may be destined to meet again in the elimination round. Minnesota’s defense is the difference-maker, especially at home.
Florio’s pick: Vikings 17, Rams 13.
November 18, 2017 at 10:13 am in reply to: Rams and Vikings have played in some pretty important games over the years #77624
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November 18, 2017 at 1:19 am in reply to: Benoit: McVay’s Brilliant Offensive Mind … & more McVay praise from others #77614
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znModeratorHobbled during the week, Rams return to almost full health before Vikings showdown
RICH HAMMOND
THOUSAND OAKS — Whatever magical injury elixir the Rams have cooked up at their Cal Lutheran headquarters, it seems to have worked for another week.
Shockingly healthy all season, the Rams had several important players sidelined during early-week practices, but almost all returned to full participation Friday morning and are expected to play Sunday at Minnesota in a matchup of two surprising division-leading teams with 7-2 records.
Four starters — linebackers Mark Barron and Connor Barwin, center John Sullivan and safety Lamarcus Joyner — missed practice Wednesday and Thursday but returned for the week’s final session and are expected to play, as are tackle Andrew Whitworth and linebacker Matt Longacre, who were limited Thursday.
Guard Rodger Saffold, who sprained his ankle last week, and linebacker Robert Quinn, who missed last week’s game due to illness, also are expected to play.
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Rams tackle Andrew Whitworth, the NFL’s oldest starting lineman, continues to defy odds
Vikings’ Case Keenum ready to face Rams and the quarterback who took his job, Jared Goff
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The only Rams listed as “questionable” for Sunday are backup cornerback Troy Hill (hamstring), who participated in Friday’s practice, and backup tight end Derek Carrier (hamstring), who did not.So while the Rams were lighter than normal in practice manpower this week, they expressed confidence that it won’t lead to a lack of preparation on Sunday.
“We still feel like we got some good work in,” Coach Sean McVay said after Friday’s practice, “and what we feel is most important is making sure it’s a volume-and-intensity balance with the practice week. Then, making sure that on Sunday, guys are as fresh as possible.”
The Vikings also have issues. Defensive end Everson Griffen, who ranks third in the NFL this season with 10 sacks, missed last week’s game and is considered questionable for Sunday because of a foot injury. The Vikings will be without two starters: safety Andrew Sendejo and right tackle Mike Remmers.
That’s practically more injury strife than the Rams have had all season. They lost starting defensive end Dominique Easley (knee) in training camp, and now are without backup safety Cody Davis (quad) and backup running back Malcolm Brown (knee), but otherwise are healthy.
McVay and players frequently credit trainer Reggie Scott and strength coach Ted Rath for their fortune. Scott was one of the few holdovers from the previous coaching staff, and he had input on the hiring of Rath, who worked for the Miami Dolphins and Detroit Lions for the previous eight seasons.
The training staff, McVay said, is in “lock step,” and is proactive about taking players out of practice if they don’t feel 100 percent. For instance, even starting in training camp, veterans such as Whitworth, Sullivan and Barwin have been given “rest days,” when they stay off the field for afternoon practices.
Running back Todd Gurley said trainers check in with players every day, and inquire with them about “how our body feels.”
“As long as we communicate with those guys,” Gurley said, “they do a great job taking care of us as far as limiting the (weight-room) reps or doing different exercises or lifts. So they’ve been doing a great job.”
BRING THE NOISE
In a game with higher stakes than anyone anticipated at the start of the season, the Rams figure to enter a hostile environment at Minnesota’s U.S. Bank Stadium, which seats more than 66,000.
Vikings coach Mike Zimmer went public this week and encouraged Vikings fans to be loud, and the Rams did their best to prepare. McVay and offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur said the Rams pumped in extra-loud music during practices this week to help prepare the offense for the decibel level.
“I think we’ve gotten a couple noise complaints,” McVay joked. “I don’t think you can ever truly mimic exactly what that’s going to be like. It’s a great atmosphere, it’s going to be a very challenging environment, especially for us offensively, but one that hopefully we’ll be able to handle with poise and concentration.”
TOUGH TASK
Gurley has gained more than 100 rushing yards in four of nine games this season, but he failed to top 70 yards in either of his last two games. That challenge won’t get easier against Minnesota, which has one of the best run defenses in the NFL.
The Vikings have held opponents to fewer than 100 rushing yards in six of nine games this season and have yet to allow more than 115 rushing yards in a game. No single running back has gained more against the Vikings this season than Detroit’s Ameer Abdullah, who reached 94 yards.
“They disguise (coverages) very well; it’s very hard,” Gurley said. “That’s why you’ve got to prepare, know your protections, get lined up, do what you’re going to do, get on the same track as the linemen.”
November 17, 2017 at 10:29 pm in reply to: Benoit: McVay’s Brilliant Offensive Mind … & more McVay praise from others #77611
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znModeratorFrom inferior to elite: How Jared Goff and Case Keenum got here
Alden Gonzalez
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — The 2016 season ended and Case Keenum sat down with Les Snead, the Los Angeles Rams’ general manager. It was your typical exit interview, the kind one would imagine after a woefully disappointing 4-12 season. By the end of it, Keenum felt it was “going to be in everybody’s best interest to move on.”
Keenum didn’t know what was next, but, really, neither did the Rams. They had Jared Goff, the young quarterback they took with the No. 1 overall pick in the most recent draft. But they didn’t know what they had in him. Goff started for the last seven weeks and finished with an 18.3 Total QBR, which ranked last among those with at least five starts at quarterback. Keenum finished with a 37.5 Total QBR, last among quarterbacks with enough reps to qualify.
A year later, according to ESPN Stats & Information, Keenum and Goff represent the NFL’s two biggest Total QBR improvements. They’re leading two 7-2 teams, playing at their best heading into Sunday’s highly anticipated matchup between the Rams and the Minnesota Vikings from U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis.
“I’m pumped for him,” Keenum said about Goff to L.A.-based reporters on a conference call.
“I couldn’t be happier for the guy,” Goff said of Keenum. “He deserves it all.”
Goff has completed 39 of 59 passes for 666 yards, seven touchdowns and zero interceptions in the past two games. He leads the NFL with 8.5 yards per attempt and ranks seventh with a 101.5 passer rating for a Rams team that is averaging a league-best 32.9 points per game. Keenum, still holding off Teddy Bridgewater for the Vikings’ starting job, is coming off a four-touchdown performance and ranks third in the NFL with a 72.6 Total QBR for an offense that ranks seventh in defense-adjusted value over average, or DVOA.
Keenum was asked whether he could have ever predicted this, he and Goff playing so well for offenses that are running so efficiently.
“I think you predicted that, right?” Keenum said, drawing a laugh. “It’s a funny game and it’s a crazy business, but that’s what makes this so cool.”
The success of Goff and Keenum seems, ostensibly, like an indictment on Jeff Fisher, the former Rams coach who oversaw ineffective, antiquated offenses for half a decade.
But there’s more to it than that.
A new Goff
For Goff, Fisher’s absence is only half of one answer.
First-year Rams coach Sean McVay, who at 31 is already one of the game’s sharpest offensive minds, has put a staff and a scheme around Goff that has set him up for success. But the Rams also have better players around him. Goff is taking snaps behind a significantly improved offensive line, thanks to the additions of left tackle Andrew Whitworth and center John Sullivan. And he’s throwing to a far more talented collection of receivers, a group that includes a trio of newcomers in Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp.
But Goff has improved, too.
He went to work at the very beginning of the offseason, immersing himself in film at the Rams’ facility by early January. He studied McVay’s Washington Redskins offenses as soon as the Rams hired him later that month, then worked at the acclaimed 3DQB program in California when NFL rules kept him from being around the team. When new receivers joined, he scheduled workouts to throw with them immediately.
Goff’s Rapid Rise
Jared Goff has thrown 10 passing touchdowns and no interceptions in four road games. Of the 44 quarterbacks with at least 15 pass attempts on the road this season, he’s the only one who has yet to throw an interception. A breakdown of his improvement from 2016 to 2017:
2016 2017
Comp pct. 54.6 61.2
Yards per att. 5.3 8.5
TD/Int ratio 0.7 4.0
Total QBR 18 54
ESPN Stats & InformationSome of that work ethic came from watching Keenum.
“He wasn’t super highly touted coming out of college, and he made his career by working hard,” Goff said. “That hard work is something I tried to grasp as much as I could.”
The criticism toward Goff was intense after a rookie season in which he completed 54.6 percent of his passes, averaged 5.3 yards per attempt, threw five touchdowns to seven interceptions and lost all seven of his starts. But teammates quickly saw someone taking more command of this offense, and of his career, heading into 2017. Woods, who came over as a free agent, saw a natural thrower.
“It started in the summer,” Woods said. “He has a pretty ball. It’s just shorts and a T-shirt, but I’ve seen him click in the season and in training camp. He’s been in control and been dominant pretty much since I got here.”
Goff heads into Sunday as the first quarterback in franchise history with back-to-back performances of 300-plus passing yards, three-plus touchdowns and zero interceptions. He has taken only 13 sacks, half the number he absorbed in two fewer games last season. Thanks to McVay’s scheme, which marries the run and the pass in innovative ways, he has thrown 12 more touchdowns than interceptions and is on pace for 4,240 yards.
Goff’s mental toughness draws constant praise — Keenum volunteered that himself, while talking about how Goff handled a trying 2016 season — but McVay also sees evolution in Goff’s decision-making.
Todd Gurley, the NFC’s leader in yards from scrimmage, isn’t surprised by Goff’s emergence in his second season.
“The guy went No. 1,” Gurley said. “Dude don’t go No. 1 for no reason.”
Making his Case
Those were the circumstances under which Keenum entered the 2016 season. He was the incumbent starter, a man who performed well for a lifeless offense in the final four games of 2015 with the Rams. But the Rams moved up 14 spots to take Goff in April of 2016, and the focus never shifted away from him.
Keenum started the first nine games of the 2016 season, all of them amid incessant speculation about when Goff would take his turn. By Week 9, a home crowd was chanting “We want Goff!” whenever Keenum’s passes fell incomplete. The following week, after a 9-6 road victory over the New York Jets, Goff was named the starter. Fisher made up his mind before that game even began.
“I wasn’t happy,” Keenum said then. “I want to play.”
But Keenum remained a captain and vowed to keep his focus on the team, even with free agency months away. He promised to be there for Goff, which is why so many in the Rams’ locker room are now happy to see Keenum succeed on his own.
“Everybody here has an abundant amount of respect for him,” Rams left guard Rodger Saffold said.
“I think Case is a heck of a football player,” defensive tackle Aaron Donald added. “Things happen how they happen, and they happen for the best, I guess, because he’s playing good football.”
Keenum, like Goff, is largely a product of better surroundings. He throws to arguably the NFL’s best receiver duo in Stefon Diggs and Adam Thielen, and he also has a reliable tight end in Kyle Rudolph. He’s supported by a running game that, with Jerick McKinnon and Latavius Murray, remains strong in the wake of Dalvin Cook’s season-ending injury. The offensive line, meanwhile, has improved significantly with the offseason additions of tackles Riley Reiff and Mike Remmers.
But it starts with Pat Shurmur, the Vikings’ offensive coordinator who has in some ways catered his offense to Keenum, a more mobile quarterback than Game 1 starter Sam Bradford, who is on injured reserve with a knee injury.
“I love the scheme,” Keenum said.
But Bridgewater is healthy now, nearly 15 months after suffering a devastating knee injury during practice. Keenum’s days as the Vikings’ starter seem numbered. That has been the story in each of his five NFL seasons since going undrafted in 2012. His leash is always short, his margin for error perpetually small.
In the meantime, though, Keenum — and Goff, for that matter — is proof that good quarterbacks can thrive in the right environments.
“That’s an outsider’s perspective; it’s not for me to say,” Keenum said, deflecting the logic. “What I try to do is try to be the best quarterback that I can be and put my team in the best chance possible to win football games — no matter what team I’m on, no matter what offense I’m in, no matter what play is called.”
znModeratorOpponent Breakdown: How to Defend Minnesota’s Explosive Offense
Myles Simmons
The Vikings’ defense rightly receives plenty of headlines.
It’s one of the strongest units in the league under head coach Mike Zimmer, who has built a number of strong defenses over his decades of NFL experience.
But Minnesota’s offense has earned its share of praise this season, too. The Vikings are currently No. 10 in scoring (24.1 points per game) and No. 9 in yards per game (363.8). They’re also quite good on third down, converting 45.08 percent, which ranks No. 5. (The Rams are No. 1 at 47.62 percent.)
The Vikings have accomplished all this even though the offensive personnel is not what was envisioned when training camp began.
Minnesota acquired quarterback Sam Bradford from Philadelphia just before the start of the 2016 regular season for a first-round pick, and conditional fourth-round pick after Teddy Bridgewater suffered a serious knee injury during a preseason practice. The move paid off, as Bradford completed a league-leading 71.6 percent of his passes for 3,877 yards with 20 touchdowns and five interceptions last year.
Bradford entered the 2017 season as the starter, too, but with multiple ACL surgeries, Bradford’s knee wasn’t quite right. He’s since had the knee scoped and has been placed on injured reserve.
The Vikings drafted Dalvin Cook in the second round of the 2017 draft, and he looked the part of a strong running back through the first few weeks of the season. In Minnesota’s Week 3 victory over Tampa Bay, Cook amassed 169 yards from scrimmage and a pair of touchdowns. But a week later, Cook tore his ACL, prematurely ending his rookie season.
Even though both Bradford and Cook are now in injured reserve, the Vikings have ridding the famed “next man up” mentality to a 7-2 record and a two-game lead in the NFC North.
In Bradford and Cook’s stead, Minnesota has turned to quarterback Case Keenum and running back Latavius Murray as starters, and has received quality results — particularly at quarterback.
Keenum has led the Vikings to a 5-2 record as a starter, which is one reason why Zimmer elected to stick with him at QB rather than switch to a healthy Bridgewater, who was activated for the first time in 2017 last week.
The Rams are plenty familiar with Keenum, as signal-caller started 14 games for the club from 2015-2016. Keenum is in the midst of a career season, completing 64.9 percent of his passes for 1,914 yards with 11 touchdowns and five interceptions.
“He’s played well,” Minnesota head coach Mike Zimmer said. “I don’t know about exceeding or not exceeding, but he’s played well. For the most part, he’s taken care of the football, he’s made the right decisions. He’s come in and helped us win ball games.”
Even though there are many Rams defenders who know Keenum and his tendencies well — besides being a teammate, Keenum was Los Angeles’ scout-team QB for the last seven weeks in 2016 — they’re downplaying how much that matters for Sunday’s contest.
“You still have to line up and play,” Rams middle linebacker Alec Ogletree said. “He’s on a totally different scheme and a totally different offense and so for us it’s just about doing what we need to do to prepare, getting after the quarterback and winning our one-on-ones.”
“It’s going to be good to see him again, but we’re going to get after him,” defensive tackle Aaron Donald said. “He’s a tough guy, a good quarterback, and we’ll try to put some pressure on him.”
Players aren’t the only Rams familiar with the quarterback. When defensive coordinator Wade Phillips was the Texans’ interim head coach to end the 2013 season, Keenum was Houston’s starting quarterback.
“He’s a University of Houston [guy]. Obviously, I’m a University of Houston guy,” Phillips said. “He’s really playing great.”
At running back, Latavius Murray has started the last five games since Cook went down. Murray signed with the Vikings as a free agent in March after spending the first four years of his career with the Raiders. Murray has 317 yards rushing and two touchdowns so far in 2017. He’s often spelled by Jerk McKinnon, who has 319 yards rushing and three touchdowns to go with 30 receptions for 218 yards and a touchdown.
“It’s a balanced attack. They’re both good,” cornerback Trumaine Johnson said. “One of them is big and fast, one of them is small and fast so we are going to have a tough matchup. But if we go in there with the right game plan we should be alright.”
But the Vikings have a trio of receivers — two wideouts and a tight end — who are particularly dangerous. Wide receiver Adam Thielen is No. 3 with 793 yards receiving this season and has a pair of receiving touchdowns. He was originally an undrafted free agent out of Minnesota St., signing with the Vikings in 2013. He was on the practice squad that year and spent the next two seasons in a reserve role. But he broke out last season with 69 receptions for 967 yards and five touchdowns.
Then the Vikings have 2015 fifth-round pick Stefon Diggs, who has 31 receptions for 500 yards and five touchdowns this year. Plus seventh-year tight end Kyle Rudolph, who is second on the team with 37 receptions and 308 yards receiving.
“Every week you see different receivers, but normally you don’t see two real good ones and we’ve faced that the last two weeks,” Phillips said. “Thielen and Diggs are both outstanding receivers. I believe Diggs was leading the league before he got hurt, and now Thielen’s right up there, so that tells you what they can do. They’re a handful, but the tight end gives you problems too. They got a good tight end, too. It’s hard to double cover everybody. We’re going to have to win some one-on-ones or play good zone coverage in certain downs.”
So what will the Rams have to do to stop Minnesota? The Rams currently lead the league with 19 takeaways, and those will always be important. But it’s always about being fundamentally sound.
“It’s always exciting going into each week playing the game,” Johnson said. “I mean, they are 7-2 and we’re 7-2 — leading in both divisions. I can’t wait. It’s going to be a dogfight and I can’t wait.”
znModeratorI don’t buy the argument that he only had back-up QB’s in 2016.
Look how good Goff AND Keenum are doing this year…
I was glad when Fisher was hired, I liked the swagger he brought to the D, but over the years, the O just rotted under him.
I wonder what Fisher thinks when he watches Rams games. I wonder what Martz thinks too.
Yeah that’s why I don’t include 2016 in that. I say “the Rams did NOT have BOTH things 76.5% of the time from 2012-15.”
Keenum, however was not a starting caliber qb which is why they drafted one after 2015 when he was still on the roster. He’s playing now as a back-up who was inserted because of injury, but then he was signed by Minn as a back-up in spite of the fact that there were qb starved teams out there who could have pursued him if he were seen as a starter.
Goff was about as green as a rookie gets because that’s what the college Air Raid system produces–qbs who are behind the curve learning the pro system. With the exception now of Goff in his 2nd year, the Air Air system has not produced a single continuing NFL starting qb, going back to 1999 (ie. going back to Tim Couch.) This is so widely known about Air Raid qbs that entire articles about Patrictk Mahomes, the qb Kansas City took in the 1st round this draft, are built around the Air Raid being a problem theme. They say things like “Mahomes, when he takes over for Alex Smith as the Chiefs starter, seeks the success unknown to most of his predecessors who led an Air Raid offense.” And like “Quarterbacks coming from his college offense have not been good.” And like “the Air Raid, well, it’s not exactly a `pro-style’ offense.” (Yes that was 3 different articles. I just quoted the first 3 that came up in the search.) Maybe Mahomes is the next exception. They certainly didn’t draft hiim intending to start him as a rookie.
So Goff was just always going to be that green as a rookie.
This is all compounded by the fact that the Rams had no running game in 2016…something I attribute as much to Gurley as anything else (he fell way off last year). With no running game, the veteran Keenum had a harder road to travel, and the rookie Goff stood no chance.
And then of course no team, for decades, has been together enough to win the season after a cross state lines move.
So there are a lot of reasons 2016 crashed. More than I listed actually.
But I didnt’ say that 2016 was one of the years where the issue is both an injury compromised OL and a #2 caliber qb. When I talk about that I always restrict it to 2012-2015. As for 2016, it’s more complicated than that. It doesn’t reduce to that equation.
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znModeratori really like when goff is in the huddle and coaches are yelling into the headset. at one point they yell at goff to take gurley out, he calmly looks taps gurley and tells him to go to the sideline and then chuckles, “it’s mayhem on the headset right now.”
just confident.
It’s a Montana-like quality.
Yeah that was an interesting thing on that vid.
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znModeratorsounds good. i’ll have to give it a try.
Just speaking for myself, I love that recipe. Hake is my favorite white fish right now, with no close second. And I am a big seafood guy.
znModeratorhe didn’t adjust during the game.
There’s a lot there I agree with, and some I don’t. I am just going to isolate this one thing.
Yes they did adjust during games.
I don’t think Boras was good at it but that’s just 2016.
There are all sorts of examples of this.
One that comes to mind is 2015, when the Rams talked multiple times about how and why Gurley would tend not to break out early in games but then would pour it on in the 2nd half. They talked about how the running game would probe a defense until they saw how they were going to play Gurley and then would adjust to that.
Heck once in 2012 the Rams were playing Buffalo and the color analyst was Martz. Martz went on and on in detail about how Schott was adjusting to the way Buffalo was defending the pass (apparently the Rams attack was stymied at first because the Bills were unexpectedly playing a lot of man). By the series, Martz would point out the adjustments Schott was making, and praised them.
All teams adjust. The Fisher Rams adjusted. They did it on defense multiple times. It was a “thing”–something the Wms. D was very dedicated to.
Sometimes teams don’t or can’t adjust EFFECTIVELY. So for example if Arizona has Austin Davis figured out, there’s not a whole lot you can do with that, because Davis was a limited player. Or they adjust and they lose anyway (as I keep saying, you don’t win a lot of games if you do not have both a starting caliber qb and a relatively healthy/decently experienced OL, and the Rams did NOT have BOTH things 76.5% of the time from 2012-15. You’re just going to lose under those conditions regardless of anything else, and that’s whether you adjusted or not).
Etc.
znModeratorSumm stattz
Minn defense sack percentage, 7.2%, ranked 13th
Minn defense INT percentage, 2.5%, ranked 12thMinn offense sack percentage, 3.2%, ranked 2nd
Keenum INT percentage, 1.9%, ranked 15thLA defense sack percentage, 8.5%, ranked 3rd
LA defense INT percentage, 4.0%, ranked 2ndLA offense sack percentage, 4.4%, ranked 6th
Goff INT percentage, 1.3%, ranked ranked 5th
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znModeratorEnjoy.
After tell us how your trip and the game went for you.
znModeratorWhat They’re Saying: The Minnesota Vikings
Kristen Lago
Each week TheRams.com will be taking a look at what Los Angeles’ opponents have to say about facing the Rams. Heading into Week 11 of the regular season, check out what the Minnesota Vikings’ coaches and players had to say about their upcoming matchup against the Los Angeles Rams at the U.S. Bank Stadium:
On the magnitude of this game and what implications it may hold for the future:
“It seems like that has been a common trend lately, playing teams in the NFC that we know we’re going to have to deal with come New Year’s. So this is a big game for us and there’s no hiding that fact. They’re 7-2 and they are playing really good football and they’re a team that we’ll have to deal with come New Year’s and come playoff time. We have an opportunity to play at home and we have to take advantage of them coming here.”
– Vikings’ TE Kyle Rudolph
“I’m excited. Anytime we get a chance to play a good team, anytime we get a chance to play on Sunday, I’m excited. It’s a challenge for us, but we’re going to rise.”
– Vikings’ LB Eric Kendricks
“I think you predicted that, didn’t you? You knew how it was going to be, right? No, it’s a funny game and it’s a crazy business, but that’s what makes this so cool, is that this is two really good football teams that are going against each other and great defenses and some offenses that have done well. It’s a fun story.”
– Vikings’ QB Case Keenum
On how similar the Rams are defensively to what the Vikings have seen in the past:
“I mean Wade Phillips does what he does. They have great guys up front, I mean I can’t even count the first round picks that they have up front. They have a ton of guys that can really get after the quarterback. I think the biggest thing that jumps out to you when you’re watching these guys on tape is how fast they are. Obviously everyone knows about Aaron Donald up front, but then you look through the linebackers with Alec Ogletree and Mark Barron. Those guys can all run and I think that’s the biggest thing.”
– Vikings’ TE Kyle Rudolph
“This is a classic Wade Phillips defense. They are very tough to attack. They have got really good players, they play five on the line quite a bit, but they will play nickel. They have good coverage in the backend, so they’ll play as much man as they want to. And they are a team that gets negative factor plays for the offense. You see lots of sacks, lots of turnovers, lots of bas stuff for the offense.”
– Vikings’ OC Pat Shurmur
On what has stood about the Rams offense so far, this season:
“I haven’t been able to watch too much tape yet, but they’re obviously doing something right.”
– Vikings’ S Harrison Smith
“They have all the gadgets. I know they have a lot of gadgets and a lot of playmakers so I’m going to take this day for myself and then I am going to get back and study for the Rams. Big plays, that’s what I’ve seen on the highlights. A lot of big throws.”
– Vikings’ LB Eric Kendricks
“These guys personnel wise are really good. They have a really good back in Todd Gurley, their receivers are doing a great job and Jared Goff’s doing a great job of getting the ball out to those guys in those situations. He seems to be reading the defense’s pretty well, and getting the ball out.”
– Vikings’ DC George Edwards
On the Rams special teams unit:
“Obviously a big game for us, an outstanding team coming into U.S. Bank Stadium on Sunday afternoon. They are very, very good on special teams. I have got a lot of worries, I’m not getting much sleep this week. But the thing about the Rams is that they are good in every phase. Pharoh Cooper has done an outstanding job as a punt and kickoff returner, their kickoff cover teams is one of the best in the league, and with their punts they don’t give up a lot of yards.”
– Vikings’ Special Teams Coordinator Mike Priefer
On K Greg Zuerlein and what Priefer has seen from him this season:
“Greg has always been an outstanding talent. I remember working him out when he came out the year that we drafted Blair, he was drafted before. He’s still with the same team. He’s had an outstanding career, I think he’s had one bumpy year and then he’s come back and this year he has been automatic. I think he’s 58 of 59 in field goals and point after attempts which is unheard of especially in nine games.”
– Vikings’ Special Teams Coordinator Mike Priefer
On Jared Goff’s progression from last season:
“We went through a lot last year and I think the fact that he kept standing back there and slinging it, man. He’d get up off the ground and keep stepping into throws and giving guys chances. The mental toughness that you have to have to play at this position, it takes a lot of it and he’s got every bit he needs plus more. I think that’s one of the big things is that he’s as mentally tough as they come and he’s got all the skills he needs. The mental game is just getting even better and better.”
– Vikings’ QB Case Keenum
“It looks like he’s a lot more comfortable in the things that they’re doing offensively. Getting the ball out quick to the right place, pressure doesn’t seem to faze him. When we know he’s got it blocked up he’s going to hold the ball a little bit longer. It just looks like to me he’s seeing things so much better. It looks like the game has really slowed down for him.”
– Vikings’ HC Mike Zimmer
znModeratorBelichek, Payton, Carroll, Arians, Shanahan, Gruden, McCarthy, Rivera, Tomlin, Pederson, Zimmer, Pagano.
Dunno.
I think this is a tangent that isn’t helpful, however.
I would say Bellichick and Zimmer. Rams have talent but IMO they don’t have “7-2 in the first year of a new regime with ANY good coach” talent. I think McVay supplied that extra percentage.
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znModeratorEveryone who thinks the Rams would be 7-2 right now if Fisher was still coach…raise your hand.
Name any coach in the NFL right now, who if they coached the Rams, they would be 7-2.
I don’t think it’s many.
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