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December 31, 2017 at 3:02 am in reply to: special teams genius John Fassel may hold keys to playoff success #79790
znModeratorOnly two assistants from last year’s Rams staff were asked back
Not true. It’s 3.
Fassel, Dickerson (asst. OL), and Peete (RBs)
December 30, 2017 at 3:21 pm in reply to: Eagles Fans Are Convinced Rams Are Tanking To Play Them #79781
znModerator1989. Maybe, I might of got it flip flopped, but I could of sworn, we beat the Giants, then the Eagles, then lost to the 9ers. I’m getting old. I’m losing my memory, so I can’t remember things like I used to
LOL, we’re both wrong.
The Rams did beat the Eagles in the 89 playoffs. I spaced that. My brain is old too.
But, they won the week after. They played the Giants next. They then lost to the 9ers in the championship game.
The 49ers then, of course, advanced to beat the Bellichick Patriots in the superbowl.
December 30, 2017 at 2:57 pm in reply to: Eagles Fans Are Convinced Rams Are Tanking To Play Them #79778
znModeratorWell you’re right that the GSOT Rams beat the Eagles in the championship game to get to the 2001 superbowl. And then lost the superbowl.
Outside of that they’ve never played the Eagles in the playoffs.
I think something has to happen more than once to qualify as a genuine superstitious fear.
December 30, 2017 at 1:24 pm in reply to: informal poll…was the winning TD in Tenn. a 4th quarter comeback? #79775
znModeratorKurt Warner only had 9 comeback wins for his career. One less than the great Mark Sanchez.
Tom Brady leads all active QBs with 41 comebacks.
Surprisingly, Aaron Rodgers only has 12.
The problem with that stat is that it doesn’t do you much good…what you really need is percentages. How many times was a team in that situation, how many times did they win in that situation, so what’s the percentage.
I have read articles before on percentages in 4th quarter comebacks, but scattered articles written at different times are not like a site that keeps regular stats. Anyway what I got from the articles is that teams are doing well if they win 40%-50% of the time when they’re in that situation.
I would also make it a team stat since defenses often really determine the outcome. For example think of Warner in the ARZ/PITT superbowl. He did his job as a comeback qb, and then the defense couldn’t seal it.
Where do you get all of this made-up information, anyway?
It’s this site. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/
You search for any qb and then will see this…and you hit “more” :

Hitting “more” gives you a menu where you can choose “comebacks and game-winning drives”:

And when you hit that you get this:

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znModeratorAny word on if he commented how Gurley would do in the Superbowl?
We haven’t heard yet.

znModeratorThe way it looks right now, the Rams LOT is Wms, the LOG is Blythe, and the OC is Neary. How does that look? Well I think a line with 3 replacements is at a disadvantage regardless who the line coach is.
That doesn’t mean they can’t win. It just has to fall right. To break new ground with non-obvious deep insights
… the defense has to be good, Mannion has to be sharp, and Brown has to be sharp. Taking the last 3 games by themselves, the SF offense ranks 4th. If that’s real it’s a test for the defense. But also in the last 3 games the SF defense ranks 29th in yards, 23rd in points, 25th in sack percentage, and 22nd in opponents’ passer rating…though they are also 7th in opponents’ yards per carry rushing.
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December 30, 2017 at 12:08 pm in reply to: informal poll…was the winning TD in Tenn. a 4th quarter comeback? #79763
znModeratorWell fwiw, PRF counts comebacks as taking the lead at any point in the 4th quarter, so they give him one.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=GoffJa00

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ONE DAY…YOU’RE GOING TO…TAKE…A SCREEN PASS…FOR 80 YARDS AND A TOUCHDOWN…AGAINST…THE TITANS…
December 30, 2017 at 1:08 am in reply to: informal poll…was the winning TD in Tenn. a 4th quarter comeback? #79751
znModeratorWould it count more as a comeback if he did it this week at home vs SF in the closing minutes of a meaningless game?
Well it’s not a matter of “counting.”
The TD to Kupp, as I said, means something. It means a lot. It is just not a comeback in my view.
In terms of something being a comeback, if he did it at home in the closing minutes against SF it would meet my definition of a comeback.
And that’s all. It would meet my definition of a comeback. That doesn’t mean it “counts” more (or less)…it’s just that it would be a comeback.
And, even in meaningless games, it’s good to know your qb has those in him.
He can then have more of them in the playoffs if he wants.

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December 29, 2017 at 11:43 pm in reply to: informal poll…was the winning TD in Tenn. a 4th quarter comeback? #79748
znModeratorI say give it to Goff.
I know what you mean. And absolutely I give Goff (and Kupp) a clutch play. In a big game. On the road. On 3rd and 6. It counts for a lot.
But with 12 minutes to go on the clock and a total of 5 offensive series remaining in the game, 3 for the Titans and 2 for the Rams, for me, the TD at 3 minutes into the quarter just doesn’t seem like a “comeback.”
To me it’s more like the Titans failed to mount their own comeback in those remaining 12 (game) minutes.
But this is an informal poll and we just have different votes.
Which means I should shut up now.

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December 29, 2017 at 5:40 pm in reply to: Eagles Fans Are Convinced Rams Are Tanking To Play Them #79742
znModeratorI don’t believe that for a second.
Me neither.
znModeratorthis week is dedicated to the back-ups–the wannabes, the guys who stand on the sideline watching the stars week in and week out and saying, “When will it be my turn to shine?”
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December 29, 2017 at 4:32 pm in reply to: informal poll…was the winning TD in Tenn. a 4th quarter comeback? #79735
znModeratorI mean–technically it’s a comeback but not in the sense that you think about when it comes to last minute final drives for the win.
Yeah. The Titans had the ball on 3 separate series after the Rams offense took the lead early in the 4th. Looking at it that way, IMO, really it’s the defense that won that game.
znModeratorHow does Campbell beat out Donald?
Just a guy feeling.
I wouldn’t trust that one if I were you. Donald had an historic season. Campbell is good, but, if for some strange reason it WEREN’T Donald, there are others that would come in ahead of Campbell.
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znModeratorFirst off I positively do not care about hits to welfare because that stuff is economically insignificant.
I do care that Reagan ruined the american economy by fostering the illusion that trickle down economics works when in fact it flat out does not. Giving more wealth to the top 1% hurts the economy, it doesn’t help it. The evidence on this is overwhelming.
Plus the developed world is full of thriving economies that are heavily into basic social welfare, including things like single payer insurance. That stuff works. It’s better, and it works.
The mere slogan “government’s big” does nothing for me. I consider right libertarians to be trapped in what amounts to a religion where beliefs, however false, blind them to truths.
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znModeratorThis is how I feel it will go.
Offensive rookie of the Year – Alvin Kamara RB New Orleans Saints
Defensive Rookie of the Year – Marshawn Latimore CB New Orleans Saints
Defensive Player of the Year – Calais Campbell DL Jacksonville Jaguars
Comeback Player of the Year aka Most Improved – Todd Gurley LA Rams
Offensive Player of the Year – Todd Gurley LA Rams
MVP – Todd Gurley RB LA Rams
Coach of the Year – Doug Pederson Philadelphia Eagles
Executive of the Year – Les Snead LA Rams
How does Campbell beat out Donald?
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znModeratorClearly this game is not a must win, or they would play all the regular starters.
I have the feeling I will be watching this game to get a sense of how good the depth is. Because it is just going to be harder to win.
On offense they are replacing Whitworth, Sullivan, Gurley, Goff, and maybe Kupp I think too.
Maybe we find out that Mannion’s good. That he’s a starting caliber qb looking for an opportunity. That would be good.
Maybe they can play at a pretty competitive level with Williams and Blythe starting.
But. If they can play well enough to win with ALL those guys, it’s gravy…not something you would normally expect.
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znModeratorDecember 28, 2017 at 5:48 pm in reply to: press sets up the SF game + endless Garoppolo praise #79720
znModeratorPFF: NFL Week 17 Preview: 49ers at Rams
The San Francisco 49ers visit the Los Angeles Rams in Week 17 of the 2017 NFL season. PFF previews the top player matchups of the game.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-nfl-week-17-preview-49ers-at-rams
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PFF Ranking: 24
Coverage by: David Neumann
MATCHUP: SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS OFFENSE VS. LOS ANGELES RAMS DEFENSE
QB Jimmy Garoppolo on deep passes — Jimmy G has carved up opposing defenses up in the short and intermediate areas since taking over as San Francisco’s starting quarterback. On passes traveling 19 yards or less in the air since Week 13, Garoppolo has completed 74.8 percent of his passes (fourth) and averaged 8.9 yards per attempt (first). Perhaps the one thing we have yet to see Garoppolo do over the past four games, however, is to connect on deep throws. When targeting players 20 yards or more downfield, only three of 14 attempts have found their intended target, with two of those completions coming against busted coverages that left players wide open downfield. San Francisco did find some success on deep passes against this Rams defense back in Week 3, completing two of three attempts for 109 yards.
WR Marquise Goodwin vs. CB Trumaine Johnson — Goodwin has been one of the primary beneficiaries of Garoppolo’s ascendance over the past month. Pre-Garoppolo, the speedy wideout was used almost exclusively as a deep threat and averaged 1.65 yards per route run, ranking 35th out of 89 qualifying receivers. Goodwin’s game has seemingly evolved with Garoppolo at the helm and he’s up a full yard per route, averaging 2.66 yards per route run over the past four games, the sixth-best figure during that span. Johnson, who should be lining up across from Goodwin for much of this game, has also been playing well of late. During the past three games, Johnson has allowed a lowly 43.8 percent catch rate into his coverage (14th of 128 defenders with at least 10 targets during that span) while breaking up four passes and keeping receivers out of the end zone.
49ers interior linemen vs. DI Ethan Westbrooks — Westbrooks will attempt to fill the void left by Aaron Donald, who will finish his season with 91 total quarterback pressures, 25 more than any other interior defender. Westbrooks has 15 total QB pressures this year on just 154 pass-rush snaps, and he’ll attempt for more against a 49ers interior offensive line that has allowed 96 pressures this season, tied for the seventh-most. Had Donald suited up in Week 17, he would have been pushing to become just the second player in the PFF Era to accumulate 100 pressures.
DI Aaron Donald Los Angeles RamsRAMs
PFF Ranking: 6
Coverage by: Mike Cahill
MATCHUP: LOS ANGELES RAMS OFFENSE VS. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS DEFENSE
T Darrell Williams vs. Edge Cassius Marsh – Williams has not seen much action in the regular season with veteran left tackle Andrew Whitworth in town. He has allowed a single sack in his 10 pass-blocking snaps this season for a pass-blocking efficiency of 90.0. His preseason play gave a lot of optimism for the future, where he ranked second in pass-blocking efficiency (98.5) among tackles with at least 64 pass-blocking snaps. His two pressures allowed were by far the lowest amount by any tackle with at least 100 pass-blocking snaps, with the next lowest total being five pressures allowed. His opponent, edge defender Cassius Marsh, has generated eight of his 12 quarterback pressures from the right side over the last three weeks, tied for 16th-most among edge defenders.
T Darrell WIlliams Los Angeles RamsWR Josh Reynolds vs. CB Ahkello Witherspoon – When quarterback Sean Mannion was throwing to Josh Reynolds in the preseason, he targeted him four times on passes of 20 or more yards. Reynolds caught two of those passes for 58 yards and two touchdowns. Since the preseason, he has seen only one such target of 20 or more yards and he did not catch it. Of his other 16 targets, he has caught nine of them for 88 yards, one touchdown, and has generated a wide receiver rating of 87.4, 11th-highest among rookie wide receivers. With Jared Goff most likely resting in the season finale, Reynolds will have his deep shots against rookie cornerback Ahkello Witherspoon. It should be noted, however, that Witherspoon hasn’t given up a single touchdown since Week 12 and is currently allowing a passer rating of 66.4 since Week 13. Both Reynolds and Witherspoon were ranked in the top-15 among their respective positions in PFF’s 2017 draft guide.
RB Malcolm Brown vs. San Francisco run defense – Brown has been limited to 72 carries between the preseason and regular season in 2017, but has been able force tacklers to miss 12 tackles in the run game and four more in the passing game, while averaging 2.36 yards after contact per attempt. The only three games he has seen double-digit carries came with the Rams having games in hand, but he did average 4.2 yards per carry in such games and forced three of his six missed tackles. Meanwhile, the 49ers defense is tied for sixth-fewest missed tackles over the last five games with 29 combined. On top of that, they have inside linebacker Reuben Foster, who is in his rookie season but owns the third-highest run-defense grade (92.3) among all inside linebackers and has the second-most run stops (21) since Week 9.
znModeratorThree ways to look at this.
1. What if Mannion gets injured. Who is his backup?
2. What if Mannion sucks so bad that the fans would be calling for my cat Bertha to take over the QB duties?
3. What if Mannion looks so amazing in this game that he throws for over 400 yards, 5TDs, 0INTs, in this game. Wondering if we could get a 3rd and a 4th round from a team for that performance.
1. His back up is Goff.
2. Get another qb this off-season.
3. Trade him in 2018 and get another qb.4. Q: What if there are no what ifs?
A: As if..
znModeratorI’d rather he play really well, and the Rams keep him at a bargain price.
Just to be pedantically clear, and not that you said or thought any different, but, Mannion is signed through 2018.
Just enough time to establish himself as a starter so the Rams can unload the massively ineffective, woeful Jarret Goff.
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December 28, 2017 at 1:50 pm in reply to: Play analysis from week 16, including Baldinger, & "all 22" #79710
znModeratorAll-22: Breaking Down Kupp’s Go-Ahead TD against Titans
Myles Simmons breaks down Rams WR Cooper Kupp’s go-ahead touchdown in Week 16.
znModeratorI hate the idea of sending the 9ers and their fans into the offseason feeling good about themselves and their team.
Think of it this way.
It’s a trick.
December 28, 2017 at 12:38 pm in reply to: Play analysis from week 16, including Baldinger, & "all 22" #79704
znModeratorAll-22: Breaking Down Gurley’s 80-yd TD against Titans
Myles Simmons breaks down Rams RB Todd Gurley’s 80-yd touchdown in Week 16.http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/All-22-Breaking-Down-Gurleys-80-yd-TD-against-Titans/8cc0c77e-c9a5-481b-8d00-e2f514636ef9
December 28, 2017 at 11:05 am in reply to: Rams Super Bowl chances + "how did they get so good" articles & vids #79701
znModeratorSo how good are New England and Pittsburgh? I haven’t seen either team play this year. What does a Rams matchup with them look like?
Just one impression.
Both have considerable advantages in experience.
Either one would be favored.
IMO, and to me this is no big deal, I don;t see this as a SB year.
Now from 2018 on for…years?…that’s a different story.
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znModeratorPractice Report: Rams to Rest Goff, Gurley, and Donald on Sunday
Kristen Lago
The Rams held a walk-thru session on Wednesday to kick off the club’s preparation week for the 49ers. The team will cap its regular season on Sunday, before hosting a playoff game at the Coliseum during the NFC’s Wild Card Weekend in January.
INJURY UPDATE
Although the Rams did not hold an official workout this afternoon, they would have been without several of their starters on the practice field.
Left tackle Andrew Whitworth, outside linebacker Connor Barwin, and center John Sullivan were given their weekly veteran rest days and were listed as non-participants. L.A. was also without left guard Rodger Saffold(oblique), linebacker Mark Barron, and wide receiver Cooper Kupp (knee).
Head coach Sean McVay said that Kupp’s knee issue was something that he had been dealing with throughout much of the regular season. But the injury was brought on specifically by Kupp’s touchdown reception in Sunday’s contest.
“He had just the normal bumps and bruises, but that knee had gotten banged around a little bit [because] he’s gotten a bunch of different plays and he’s competing in the run game,” McVay said. “But it was aggravated on that play.”
RAMS TO REST SEVERAL STARTERS ON SUNDAY
L.A. clinched the NFC West and a spot in the playoffs with its victory over the Titans in Week 16. But regardless of the outcome in Week 17, the Rams can finish no better than the NFC’s No. 3 or No. 4 seed heading into the postseason.
As such, McVay indicated on Tuesday that the club would likely be resting some of its starters against the 49ers and later confirmed the news after Wednesday’s session.
Left tackle Andrew Whitworth, center John Sullivan, running back Todd Gurley, and defensive tackle Aaron Donaldwill all be inactive this weekend. And although quarterback Jared Goff will be active — since the roster currently holds just two quarterbacks — Sean Mannion will receive his first start this weekend.
“We came in as a staff and we talked amongst our coaching staff and took everybody’s opinions into account,” McVay said. “For us everything that we do is intentional and designed to be best for our team and for our players.”
“When a situation like this comes up, we talk about how it’s a nice luxury to have, but you want to make sure that you handle it the right way for our team,” he continued. “And it might not be for every team, but we feel like that’s the best approach for us.”
znModeratorGreat post. Good detail, smart conclusions.
This one warrants some pie.
December 28, 2017 at 10:16 am in reply to: Rams Super Bowl chances + "how did they get so good" articles & vids #79696
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znModeratorRams fan reacts to a McVay play action deception play
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