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znModeratorRams locker room might be right one for Marcus Peters
Alden Gonzalez
LOS ANGELES — Marcus Peters is only 25, set to make less than $2 million, with far more interceptions than anybody else over the past three seasons — and yet, according to the Kansas City Star, only the Los Angeles Rams and the San Francisco 49ers were legitimately interested in trading for him.
It says a lot, about the reputation Peters has built and the hesitancy it has caused.
In agreeing to acquire Peters from the Kansas City Chiefs on Friday — for a package of draft picks that has yet to be revealed, in a trade that won’t become official until the start of the new league year on March 14 — the Rams inherited some risk. They got a shutdown cornerback at minimal cost, adding an elite playmaker at their greatest position of need for only $1.74 million. But they also added a mercurial player with a history of quarreling with coaches and losing his composure, which prompts some important questions.
Is Peters a bad guy, or could the Chiefs simply not reach him?
Is his ability worth the trouble?
Is the Rams locker room and culture strong enough to sustain it?
The Rams’ hope is that a change of scenery will do wonders for Peters. And if any scene will do it, it’s theirs. The Rams are only a drive away from Peters’ hometown of Oakland, which is said to be important to him. They have a 32-year-old head coach in Sean McVay who is as good as any at connecting with this generation’s players. Their defensive coordinator, the 70-year-old Wade Phillips, is as revered as they come. And the leadership within their locker room is sound, with the likes of Aaron Donald and Alec Ogletree setting the tone on defense.
“We have a good foundation in place,” McVay said from the 101 Awards in Kansas City on Saturday, where he was presented with the organization’s NFC Coach of the Year Award.
“The leadership, I think, that we have in our locker room is able to bring guys in and welcome them and make them feel a part of it. You’ll hear us talk about ‘we not me,’ being a part of something bigger than yourself. That’s what we’ve got in our locker room, and that’s why you feel good about being able to bring people in and let them know that we’re going to welcome them; we’re going to put our arm around them.”
Peters was dismissed from Washington before the completion of his junior season after multiple arguments with assistant coaches. His coach with the Chiefs, Andy Reid, has built a strong reputation for getting along with players. But even Reid felt the need to suspend Peters after a bizarre sequence against the New York Jets this past December, when he threw an official’s flag into the stands, left the field without being ejected and later returned without socks. Peters also argued with Chiefs defensive coordinator Bob Sutton on the sideline a handful of times, among other transgressions.
Phillips has dealt with numerous dynamic personalities in his 40-plus years in the NFL, most recently the likes of Pacman Jones and Aqib Talib. But Phillips has never been considered a disciplinarian. Players love playing for him at least partly because he trusts them, because he lets them be, because he doesn’t necessarily reprimand. If that is ever necessary with Peters, it would probably fall on McVay.
His leadership and coaching acumen could be tested like never before, but it should be worth it.
Peters is that good.
He has generated 30 turnovers since being drafted 18th overall three years ago, including 19 interceptions, six forced fumbles and five fumble recoveries. His 49.0 disrupted dropbacks — a measure that combines interceptions, sacks, batted passes and passes defended — are tied for third from 2015 to 2017. And since the 1970 merger, only three players — Richard Sherman, Ed Reed and Everson Walls — have more interceptions in their first three seasons.
Asked about Peters in Kansas City, McVay declined comment because the trade has not been processed.
“But in a quick nugget,” McVay said, “he’s a great player.”
Quarterbacks have continually shied away from Peters, his targets going from 137 in 2015 to 87 in 2016 to 72 in 2017, according to Pro Football Focus. But he’s still the first player since Reed from 2000 to 2004 with at least five interceptions in each of his first three seasons. He missed only two tackles last season, according to Pro Football Focus, and forced a career-high four fumbles. From 2015 to 2017, his opponents’ passer rating when targeted has been 67.7, 66.0 and 66.0, respectively. All fell within the NFL’s top 11.
In Peters, the Rams gained a former All-Pro who’s better than Trumaine Johnson and costs one-tenth of the price. There’s still no word on what they gave up, but some reporters have speculated that a first-round pick probably wasn’t involved. If that’s the case, then this is the type of trade you make every time — when you’re that kind of team, have that kind of need and feel that kind of confident about your environment.
“When you look at the way that we want to operate philosophically,” McVay said, speaking in generalities, “you can never have enough guys that can cover, be able to play some of the man principles that Coach Wade loves to implement.”
Peters comes at a critical juncture in his rookie contract. The Rams will have until May 3 to pick up his fifth-year option for 2019, which basically means they have a year to figure out whether to pay him in line with the game’s best cornerbacks. Given that, and the circumstances that will surround him, perhaps Peters will remain composed in 2018.
The Rams, coming off an 11-5 season that led to a division title, just acquired a potential Hall of Fame cornerback in the thick of his prime.
They will happily deal with any of the red flags that come with it.
“Everything starts with relationships, and I wouldn’t say you’re looking for any sort of balance of personalities [in the locker room],” McVay said from Kansas City. “You want the right types of guys, and we look for good guys who are good football guys and that love the game.”
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znModeratorTHIS IS ONE INTRIGUING TRADE, FOR MANY REASONS
Peter King
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/02/26/nfl-combine-mike-mayock-draft-prospects-mmqb-peter-king
News item: Kansas City agrees to make its second major trade in a month, dealing 25-year-old Pro Bowl cornerback Marcus Peters to the Rams.
We don’t know, yet, exactly the compensation. But Ian Rapoport reported he didn’t think the deal involved a first-round pick, which I have heard as well. If true, the best pick the Rams could lose this year would be 87th overall because Los Angeles does not have its own second-rounder. Next draft, if the Rams have a similar 2018 as they did in 2017, their second-round pick would fall in the fifties. But if it’s a low two and low three for a sort of problem child, it’s an intriguing trade for both teams.
Check down further in the column for my Stat of the Week, but you’ll see why Peters’ value was still high, though tarnished in Kansas City because of his anthem stance (he kneeled, much to owner Clark Hunt’s chagrin), his unpopularity in the arch-conservative area because of his anthem protest, and his one-game suspension after blowing up and throwing a penalty flag in the stands at the Jets. The man averaged 9.7 big plays (interceptions, forced fumbles, recovered fumbles) a year in his three Kansas City seasons. It seems like a perfect fit for the Rams, too, at an unbelievably good price: a low third-round pick, at most this year, and they get in return a player under contract for two years and $10.5 million. Peters should thrive in a Wade Phillips defense that asks its top corner to play head to head against great receivers. If the Rams can coax Peters into buying into their way of doing things, this will have been a smart purchase.
Maybe the Chiefs couldn’t have made this work, and maybe coach Andy Reid figured Peters was just too much of a handful. But if the Chiefs don’t get a first-rounder in return for a 25-year-old cornerback who, if he can control his temper and play within the scheme, could be a Hall of Fame player, I like the deal for Los Angeles, risk and all.
I’m told there was no agreement or even “we’ll see” about re-doing Peters’ contract, so the Rams will have to count Peters only $1.7 million against the cap this year. With the Rams’ biggest need being at cornerback, and with Peters surely understanding this season will be huge in figuring the value of his next contract, the Rams are likely to get the very good Peters—and in an area where the anthem protests do not roil the locals the way they do in the Midwest.
The Niners were also in play, and the Browns, too, to a lesser degree. But here’s what’s interesting: The Rams, 49ers and Browns are all on the Chiefs’ 2018 schedule. L.A. and Kansas City will play in Mexico City this fall. Peters might be a little fired up for that game.
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znModeratorNFC West now will feature 3 of league’s best CBs
NFC West now will feature 3 of league's best CBs
The NFC just got better at cornerback. The Los Angeles Rams reportedly have agreed to a trade with the Kansas City Chiefs to acquire cornerback Marcus Peters. It will save the Rams millions of dollars, as Peters is still on his rookie contract, allowing the team to let Trumaine Johnson go in free agency.
The trade cannot officially occur until March 14, but when it does, it means the NFC West is loaded at the position. The division already has two of the league’s best with Patrick Peterson of the Arizona Cardinals and Richard Sherman of the Seattle Seahawks. Adding Peters to the Rams means three of the best cover corners are all in the same division.
It also improves the Rams. Not only is Peters arguably a better player than Johnson, who is likely to leave, but the Rams have freed up money to pay players like Aaron Donald or Sammy Watkins to new contracts.
Who will be the best corner in the division? Considering Sherman is recovering from a torn Achilles, it will likely be a battle between Peterson and Peters. Peters gets the interceptions. Peterson is targeted very little.
But the division now might be the best in terms of cornerback talent.
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znModeratorsix2stack wrote:
Peters is a very talented punk.
I live in Missouri and I’ve followed the Chiefs for several years. My son and I went to a Chiefs-Chargers game last Fall at Arrowhead. Several times throughout the game, Peters turned around at the fans and jawed off. I know, ’cause we were on the home 47 yard line 11th row. He had a season long ongoing feud with the fans because of his bonehead antics and kneeling during the National Anthem. I remember, I was standing there at the game thinking “I sure am glad we don’t have that punk playing for the Rams”.
Now, that being said, he is quicker than almost anybody on the field. He has great instincts, very good coverage skills and excellent hands. He has All Pro talent.
With Peters, you’ll get the game winning pick six one week and the attributing game losing unsportsmanlike conduct flag the next.
McVay is definitely up to the task of keeping this knucklehead’s emotions in check.
znModeratorWell if they dont pick an LT, and Whitworth goes down what will they do?
I suppose move Saffold to LT and scrounge for a guard to replace Saffold.
Maybe it works, i dunno.
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vI agree, it’s an issue.
But then if there’s no one at 23 worthy of being considered a solid LOT, then, there’s no one at 23. Not a lot can be done about that.
But, it’s still early, I don;t really know yet what/who will be worth the pick at 23. Maybe there is a left OT there.
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znModeratorSounds like Peters could be a challenge for McVay and Phillips.
That’s from the first article in this thread. This one:
Can Wade Phillips handle Marcus Peters?
Mike Florio
This may be a better article because it gives the Rams view of why and how they think their team can handle a guy like Peters. It’s the 5th one in the thread:
Rams’ trade for Marcus Peters proves their belief in their football culture
znModeratorSean McVay: Players know exactly “what our standards are” for behavior
Sean McVay: Players know exactly “what our standards are” for behavior
Rams head coach Sean McVay was at an awards ceremony in Kansas City on Saturday and that meant he got asked about the team’s agreement to trade for Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters.
That trade can’t become official until March 14, which limited McVay’s ability to answer without violating the league’s rules on tampering. McVay said Peters is a “great player” but didn’t have any other comments about the move or the cornerback.
McVay was able to speak more freely about something that was a concern for Peters in Kansas City. Peters was suspended for a game last season due to his behavior during and after a game and such concerns likely contributed to the Chiefs’ decision to trade a young and talented player at this point. McVay spoke in general terms about how the Rams handle their players.
“These are grown men, and it starts with the mutual respect that exists, where they know it’s about developing and building relationships,” McVay said, via the Kansas City Star. “If we’re going to ask our players to be coachable, we’ve got to be coachable as coaches as well. That displays an ownership and an accountability that we try to all have and makes the players more receptive to the messages we try to implement. … They know exactly what the expectations are, what our standards are, and they know what it is to do it the right way.”
Defensive tackle Aaron Donald was also at the event and counseled that McVay’s smile shouldn’t fool anyone because “he’ll get after you when you do something wrong.” The Rams surely hope that won’t be necessary with Peters this year.
znModeratorDeadpool wrote:
at CB you have Peters and Hill and no one else. NR-C and Tru are FAs and Webster may never be right again. And even if he is, it isn’t week 1.
IMO, there isn’t a LT worth the pick @23 (assuming they still have #23) unless you want to draft 1 and replace Havs with the thought of grooming him to replace Whit in a few years.
Same story with TE. Its a tough position to walk into in year 1 and be a stud and secondly, my top rated TE is a 2nd rounder. Trade back into the 2nd, then sure look at a TE.
I think the top 2 DTs (NTs) are gone, so unless you want to draft Taven Bryan to be a DE and move Brockers back to nose, the DL is off the table.
Quinn is coming back if you believe the reports that said no to including him in the Peters trade. So they could still use a OLB opposite Quinn, but I’m not sure the value is there. I think the value is better for an edge rusher in rounds 3 and 4 then at the end of round 1.
ILB? Only if they cut Barron. SO for no I would say no.
QB or WR or RB? No. Even if TA is cut and Watkins is gone via FA, I am not drafting a WR in round 1.
S – not with JJ3 or Joyner (he is not escaping LA unlike Snake Plissken)
That leaves CB and possibly a C/G like Billy Price.
A CB like Mike Hughes makes perfect sense. Hughes is a natural press guy. He is an aggressive corner. He is a little raw, but is extremely athletic. He fits as a press corner with ball skills, but too raw to step in right away as a true #1. Peters gives him a chance to grow for a few years ad when (I mean if) Peters doesn’t work out, he hopefully slides in to the top spot. Jackson is a press guy, he needs to get stronger though.I also think Oliver is better on man then off, but I am still not convinced he is a 1st round CB. I am still looking him over.
I am a firm believer in BPA. I also know there is no such thing as true BPA. You have to have a need for the guy or whats the point. To me the biggest needs are CB, NT, Edge, OL depth (esp LT and OC) and maybe some TE help. They absolutely do not need S, DE, QB, RB and WR. I have been on record saying I do not believe any TE is worth the 23rd pick, so remove them. There are holes in every OT prospect, so unless you go RT to start I don’t see them being the pick.
That leaves me this list:
CBs – Ward, Jackson, Hughes, Alexander and Oliver
OC/OG – Billy Price (I have no idea why he is so under rated)
Edge – Key, Landry, Armstrong and maybe Hubbard – the combine will sort these guys out (at least for me it will)
znModeratorcool_hand_luke wrote:
The video was previously posted but I have yet to see anything posted about what was said.
One important thing Demoff discussed was what the team learned after “the RG3 trade.” He talked about the lack of time you have to develop young players from the draft in the new CBA. He specifically stated that it takes a player three years of practices now to have what that player had in one year before the recent CBA. Another statement, was that decisions to keep that player need to be made in their fourth year. He said they are now looking for young, rising players that they can acquire on their original rookie deals. Needing a veteran presence was also mentioned as something they learned.
I find this very intelligent. Adding Sammy Watkins, Marcus Peters, Robert Woods, Kayvon Webster,etc–young players, already developed for non top rate dollars.
He told a story about Kupp. Mentioned he was 4th out of 6th in workouts with other WRs they targeted to go in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft. But Snead attended a football camp with Peyton Manning which Kupp attended–in this camp Manning was always throwing to Kupp, From how Demoff made this statement, it was clear this fact held great value in their analysis of Kupp.
znModeratorHow Colorado Gun-Control Advocates Beat the N.R.A.
Eli Stokols
February 22, 2018https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-colorado-gun-control-advocates-beat-the-nra
In 2013, a coalition of local Democrats, including parents like Tom Sullivan, who lost their children to gun violence, overcame intense opposition to enact stricter measures on gun control.Photograph by Rod Lamkey / Getty
Tom Sullivan was sitting in a third-floor committee room in the Colorado capitol last Wednesday when his phone lit up with news alerts describing a mass shooting in a Florida high school. In the five years since his son was murdered, with eleven other people, in an Aurora movie theatre, Sullivan has returned to the capitol’s wood-panelled hearing rooms and marble hallways more than twenty times. He has grown used to lawmakers rarely looking him the eye. He has learned to state his name for the record and to keep his testimony, recounting the worst day of his life, to roughly two minutes.
In 2013, Sullivan was among a small group of parents who lost children in Aurora or Newtown or Columbine who helped Democrats push Colorado’s legislature to enact tougher gun-control measures despite intense opposition from the N.R.A. After receiving the Parkland news alerts last week, Sullivan testified against the latest effort to roll back those measures, a proposal in the state’s Republican-controlled Senate that would expand concealed-carry rights in Colorado. The measure passed the committee in a party-line vote but this week was defeated, along with two other measures to loosen restrictions on guns, in the state’s Democrat-controlled House. For now Colorado’s stricter measures, including universal background checks and a ban on magazines of more than fifteen rounds, remain law.
Sullivan, who ran, unsuccessfully, for state Senate in 2016, says that Colorado shows that strengthening gun-control laws is possible, but keeping them in place requires political vigilance. “It is disappointing we have to play defense all the time,” he told me.
In the broader national narrative of N.R.A. invincibility, Colorado is an exception. Leveraging a statewide network of activists built over the preceding decade and funded by Michael Bloomberg and other national gun-control advocates, Democrats passed the gun-control measures when they controlled Colorado’s governorship and the state legislature. But they did not anticipate the backlash that allowed Republicans to win control of the state Senate by ousting two Democratic state senators in recall votes and winning a third seat after a Democrat resigned.
The governor, John Hickenlooper, a brewpub owner turned politician, said in an interview this week that after the Aurora shooting he thought he could foster a bipartisan consensus regarding universal background checks. He recalled having cordial conversations about gun laws with Second Amendment experts and Republican donors heading into the 2013 legislative session. “Every single Republican I talked to supported universal background checks,” Hickenlooper said. “So, in my naïveté, I thought it would whiz right through.”
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As the bills moved through the legislative process, hundreds of gun owners clogged the halls of the capitol. Representative Rhonda Fields, the Democratic lawmaker who sponsored the two main bills in the House, received death threats, as did two pro-gun-control lobbyists. Magpul, which manufactures high-capacity magazines, threatened to shutter its northern Colorado factory if the magazine limit became law. (The company followed through, relocating and moving roughly a hundred jobs to Cheyenne, Wyoming, in 2015.) Several of Colorado’s sheriffs, mostly from rural counties, later sued the state in an effort to overturn the new laws. The lawsuits failed, but the N.R.A. and local gun-rights groups persist in their yearly efforts to reverse the laws.
Will Coyne, one of two lobbyists hired by Bloomberg’s organization Mayors Against Illegal Guns, described 2013 as a year-long political epiphany. “I realized I did not fully understand politics in America, and how intrinsically the segment of society that cares about gun rights, how deeply they believe that, how much gun rights are wrapped up in their political and cultural identity,” he said.
John Morse, a former Colorado Springs-area police chief who passed the measures when he served as the president of the Colorado state Senate, paid the heaviest political price. Although Morse expresses no regrets, he said his recall after the gun-safety measures passed created an excuse for other Democrats not to act. “We beat the N.R.A. in Colorado, and then what happened was they beat us,” he said. “They rode me out of town on a rail, and now there’s not a Democrat in the country that has the stomach to do what needs to be done.”Coyne praised Morse, saying “he pushed as far as he possibly could, and he did it because he thought it was the right thing to do, and he did it without fear of consequence. In my career, I’ve never seen another politician act like that.”
Democrats also initially underestimated the intensity of support for some gun-control initiatives on their own side. The magazine ban gathered steam when Hickenlooper, known for his political caution, unexpectedly got behind it. “It was tangible in a way background checks weren’t,” Coyne, the lobbyist, told me. “People could hold the magazines and see the difference in size. It actually galvanized our side in a way we hadn’t expected, and it gave us more momentum.”
Gun-rights advocates, meanwhile, seized on the legislative battle to boost their own membership rolls and organize protests (including a day when gun owners circled the capitol in cars while honking their horns). Hickenlooper contends that as mass shootings continue to occur, broader public frustration will grow. With significant federal reforms unlikely, he predicted that more states will eventually enact reforms similar to Colorado’s. “I think those folks, the people that really thought that this was too great a cost to pay—now history says, if anything, we should have pushed a little further,” Hickenlooper said. “While I’m sure there are things in the process we could have changed or improved, I don’t have any anxiety or self-doubt that what we did was important and right.”
A Quinnipiac Univerity poll released this week found that sixty-six per cent of American voters supported stricter gun control laws, a fourteen per cent increase since 2015. Coyne said that his private polling from last December showed support for Colorado’s gun laws trending up, with thirty-one per cent supporting the laws in 2014 and thirty-eight per cent supporting them in 2017.
Tom Sullivan returned to the capitol this week to testify against a measure designed to roll back the state’s high-capacity magazine ban. He cautioned the young activists of Parkland that “anger is only going to take you so far in this,” but lauded their resolve. “I applaud those Florida students for what they’re doing,” he said. “I welcome them into the fight, because that’s what this is going to be.”
znModeratorRams’ trade for Marcus Peters proves their belief in their football culture
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article202034504.html
In professional football, the name of the game is winning. So much so that one good season is enough to make you The Next Big Thing, the one who can do no wrong.
Exhibit A for this is the Los Angeles Rams’ young coach, Sean McVay, who happened to be in Kansas City for a major event just one day after news broke surrounding the Rams’ trade for star Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters.McVay, who was at the 101 Awards on Saturday at Westin Crown Center to receive his NFC coach of the year honor, smiled wide and spoke enthusiastically during the press conference before the event.
Positivity and enthusiasm are part of his ethos as a coach, and after the 32-year-old guided the Rams to a seven-win improvement in 2017 — while simultaneously working wonders with a previously-horrific offense — who’s to say there’s anything wrong with that?
Certainly not other coach-needy NFL teams like Indianapolis and Chicago, which spent the last few months seeking offensive-minded head coaches just like McVay in hopes of a similar turnaround.
So in the NFL, when you’re The Next Big Thing and things are going well, you can take chances. And don’t think for a second that the Rams’ acquisition of Peters, which cannot be finalized until the start of the new league year on March 14, isn’t rooted in confidence born in the Rams’ success this season.
“Right now, just because of where we’re at in the league year, you can’t make it official, so you have to be careful with some of the tampering,” McVay said, when asked directly about Peters. “But in a quick nugget, he’s a great player.”
There’s little doubt about that. Since 2015, Peters’ rookie season, no NFL cornerback has intercepted more passes than Peters, the mercurial Oakland native, who’s penchant for diagnosing routes and making plays is practically unmatched. At 25 years old, Peters is among the best cornerbacks in the league at a position of critical importance, one who could have been retained by the Chiefs for fairly reasonable sums the next two years.
Still, the Chiefs opted to punt on making him the league’s highest-paid corner in the near future, trading him Friday in a move that’s been in the works for three weeks. That little fact — of Peters likely garnering a big payday in the future — seemed to scare away several teams, as sources told The Star that only the Rams and 49ers stepped to the plate with interest.
It’s not a coincidence both are West Coast teams with young head coaches with leadership skills, as Peters’ preference for being close to his beloved hometown of Oakland has been long-established, while his coachability has been a question dating back to college.
But for McVay and the Rams, whose worst-to-first turnaround has rightfully inspired confidence in their system, the trade for Peters is essentially playing with house money. With Peters needing a new deal, he’s likely to play well, and is likely to be on his best behavior as the new kid on the block.
“These are grown men, and it starts with the mutual respect that exists, where they know it’s about developing and building relationships,” said McVay, who fosters that by being honest when he messes up too. “If we’re going to ask our players to be coachable, we’ve got to be coachable as coaches as well. That displays an ownership and an accountability that we try to all have and makes the players more receptive to the messages we try to implement.”
When it comes to discipline, McVay said he believes in establishing clear-cut boundaries, which could factor into his eventual handling of Peters, whom Chiefs coach Andy Reid suspended in late December for one game due to a combination of Peters’ on-field and off-field behavior.
“They know exactly what the expectations are, what our standards are, and they know what it is to do it the right way,” McVay said.
That’s why star defensive tackle Aaron Donald, who was also in Kansas City on Saturday to be honored as the NFC’s defensive player of the year by the 101 Committee, believes in the Rams’ ability to accommodate just about any personality.
“He’s a coach — he’ll get after you when you do something wrong,” Donald said of McVay. “Don’t let that smile fool you. I’ve seen that man change.”
One other thing the Rams have going for them is the presence of defensive coordinator Wade Phillips. While Peters often appeared to be frustrated at the on-field calls by Chiefs defensive coordinator Bob Sutton late last season — at least until his suspension — Phillips’ gravitas is real. Though Phillips is quiet, he also has a knack for putting his players in position to make plays, and when you throw in all the great players
he’s coached — and don’t forget, Phillips was the guide of Denver’s Super Bowl-winning swashbuckling unit of a few years, which was one of the best in recent history — he’s got the command and respect of the entire locker room.“Every little thing he says, it makes you want to listen to it and take the coaching,” Donald said.
But players ultimately set the tone in a locker room, and McVay likes the alpha males who establish the Rams’ football culture, especially defenders like Alec Ogletree, Connor Barwin and Donald, all of whom McVay explicitly mentioned by name.
“Special players like this have a real good influence, especially when they’re producing,” said McVay as he nodded toward Donald, who was sitting directly to his left.
Donald prefers to lead by example, and he noted the Rams have a lot of guys like that, who work hard and have helped McVay establish the right way of doing things.Even former Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez, who is now an NFL analyst, thinks a new team will be good for Peters, whose sometimes-explosive temperament caused more attention than his on-field play did at times last season.
“Sometimes a change of scenery will do a player good, and I hope that for Marcus, because he’s a phenomenal football player,” Gonzalez said. “But sometimes with personalities and situations, change is good. That’s why coaches get fired, players get traded. You’ve just got to move on and make it good.”
But in the meantime, the Rams are taking a chance after a winning season, a chance that makes sense. It’s a gamble for sure, but it’s one you can take when you’ve got the league copying your blueprint for success.
“When you’re looking at the way we want to operate philosophically, you can never have enough guys that can cover and be able to play some of the man principles that (defensive coordinator) Wade (Phillips) loves to implement,” McVay said.
“Anytime you have guys that can cover and do different things as far as matching up with receivers like Antonio Brown, that gives you a chance to be versatile and maybe mix some things up in terms of the pressures that you want to bring.”
February 24, 2018 at 7:55 pm in reply to: Schefter: “Rams finalizing trade with Chiefs for CB Marcus Peters #83125
znModeratorThat being said, I would… Pay Tru. You could have a “Broncos/Seattle type secondary. What a defense this could be.
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It ‘would’ be great to have Tru and Peters.
Then you just sign Quinn and ADonald. And draft a great Pass-rusher…and…wow.
Then again, there’s still that LT situation. The one situation that
could wreck the whole season.w
vI don;t think they can afford Donald, Joyner, and Watkins, plus Tru, plus their draft pics, and keep Quinn.
That’s just too much to ask. The math goes wonky. Though we’ll see.
They can, though, draft a corner at 23 who would be a good 2018 starter.
In terms of LOT, I wouldn’t mind that either.
February 24, 2018 at 4:55 pm in reply to: Schefter: “Rams finalizing trade with Chiefs for CB Marcus Peters #83118
znModeratorAlden Gonzalez, ESPN Staff Writer
CB Marcus Peters will cost $1.74M towards the salary cap in 2018, and the Rams will presumably pick up his fifth-year option before the May 3 deadline. They entered the offseason with a projected $40 million in cap space and added an impact player to their greatest position of need at minimal cost. It changes everything about their offseason. More money for S Lamarcus Joyner, DT Aaron Donald, WR Sammy Watkins, etc., and flexibility with how they attack the draft and free agency.
znModeratorWhat interests me is this idea that guns themselves are so intractably part of a person’s identity that “gun nuts” are actually incapable of holding an open conversation about guns. Guns are an extension of Self for a large number of Americans.
I think that’s unquestionably true for some. Guns are part of a sense of identity. They also are part of a fantasy of control—empowerment. Either way they don’t really have an argument that stands up (IMO). I like the line from the comedian Jeff Jeffires, who says there’s really only one argument against gun control–“fuck you, I like guns.”
But for another, more numerous group, guns are subject to rational discussion. For them, it’s not an identity thing, unless more generally you take “rational discussion” as part of an identity structure. Discussing guns is just no different from discussing traffic laws and policies regarding who is eligible to drive and what external controls they must submit to for the good of the community as a whole.
So for me gun control is simple. Just outvote the minority. When they clamor and complain…let them. Shrug.
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znModeratorTHE OTHER SIDE
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Deadpool wrote:
I’m not a fan
Doesn’t it strike you as odd that a top 5 CB at age 25 making 1.7 mil this year is even on the trading block, let alone for less then one 1st round pick let alone multiple 1st rounders? Top 5 CBs don’t get traded.
Yes he has hothead issues like choking a coach while at Washington. Actually is that a hothead issue? I would call it felony assault. Or getting released from said program for multiple issues?
So players coaches like Andy Reid (the ultimate players coach) and Chris Petersen couldn’t reign him in but somehow Sean McVay will? As far as players guiding him in the right direction. Look no further then Eric Berry, one of, if not the most respected player in the NFL right now. He was in the same backfield as Peters and he couldn’t do it. Neither could Justin Houston. Or how about Derrick Johnson with his 13 years of NFL experience? 13 years. But you expect a bonehead like Tree with his whopping 5 years to reign him in. OK
There’supside, but also a ton of downside. Being a locker room cancer is a huge downside. Chris Petersen thought more of his team then winning when he cut him in college. Andy Reid signed Micheal Vick straight out of federal prison, but traded a top 30 player in the NFL making less then 2 million dollars. Andy Reid drafted Tyreek Hill, who in 2014 pled guilty to choking and punching his pregnant girlfriend, but he traded a top 5 CB in his prime making less then 2 million. He has already been cut off of 2 football programs before it was too late.
And what if he misses games due to suspension. I’m going to assume the Rams are depending on him for 16 games.
And what if he doesn’t pan out? No big deal right? Well, he takes a spot from another CB the Rams could have signed in FA or the draft and just slows down the secondary’s rebuild or retool.
Peters was my top rated CB that year, but I had said at the time he was too risky to draft. I hope he gets straightened out, but some people just like to watch the world burn. He has to want to change. So far history tells me he can’t or doesn’t want to change. Maybe going into his contract years is enough of a motivator. You better hope it is.
February 24, 2018 at 1:57 pm in reply to: Schefter: “Rams finalizing trade with Chiefs for CB Marcus Peters #83110
znModeratorthis might get not too many likes but what i would do at this point.
i’d try to get joyner re-signed.
i’d still try to get tru signed.
i’d let watkins go.
i’d draft the best damn player with the first. hopefully, it’s a pass rusher. or vea.
that right there is the makings of an elite defense.
Yeah, if somehow they could sign TruJo to a fair price then the Rams’ secondary goes from a potential problem area to perhaps the best in football. I assume they’ll tag Joyner if they can’t sign him.
Looks like, at this stage, they could take a corner at 23 for a fraction of what it would cost to pay Tru and still have a very good, even top secondary.
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February 24, 2018 at 12:40 pm in reply to: Schefter: “Rams finalizing trade with Chiefs for CB Marcus Peters #83108
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@DailyNewsVinny
Les Snead is getting pretty good at these stealth, blockbuster moves. And his latest –
reeling in #Chiefs All-Pro CB Marcus Peters – completely changes the complexion of the #Rams offseason.Terez A. Paylor@TerezPaylor
Already hearing some rumblings about some current Chiefs being upset about this potential Marcus Peters trade. Compensation will be interestingPeter King@SI_PeterKing
The story:
-Les Snead never met a trade he didn’t like.
-Andy Reid all-in on rebuild.
-Wade Phillips has great CB for his D.
-Be wary of Peters. Who trades a top CB at 25?ProFootballTalk@ProFootballTalk
Wade Phillips, who has seen every type of player in a lifetime of coaching, surely can handle Marcus PetersFebruary 24, 2018 at 12:31 pm in reply to: Schefter: “Rams finalizing trade with Chiefs for CB Marcus Peters #83107
znModeratorMarcus Peters is gone. The Chiefs have some explaining to do.
SAM MELLINGER
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article201907719.html#storylink=cpy
Clark Hunt, Andy Reid and Brett Veach deserve an opportunity to explain, because as it stands right now they have cloaked their franchise with failure.
That word is not used without thought. That word is not used without intent.
The Chiefs on Friday agreed to trade Marcus Peters to the Rams, reportedly for draft picks. Without hearing from the men who made this decision, the explanation that makes the most sense is one lacking in guts, ambition, commitment to success, and realism.
A difficult situation presents itself, and the Chiefs hit the eject button.
Starting with Reid being hired and paid more than any NFL coach who has not won a Super Bowl, the Chiefs have branded themselves as a place for second chances, where strong personalities are welcomed and supported.
Here, then, they failed with their strongest-willed and one of their best players. This was supposed to be their edge. Let players show their personalities. Get the most out of them. Except with Peters, the Chiefs failed to do it, apparently allowing the situation to become so untenable they traded him without a strong market of interest.
Again, Hunt, Reid, and Veach should be allowed to explain. This has all the markings of the Chiefs pushing Peters out, but there is always a chance the trade return was so overwhelming the Chiefs couldn’t resist. So these words are an initial reaction, not the final judgment. Still, the following is true:
Peters plays one of the most important non-quarterback positions in football, creates more turnovers than anyone else in the league, and just turned 25 in January with a year left on his rookie deal plus up to three more years of club control.
And he’s gone. For what?
The Chiefs traded a cheap, young star at a premium position despite the limited leverage of just two teams interested.
Why?
For draft picks? So they have an opportunity to select Peters’ replacement? That’s not the action of a successful franchise.
Chiefs Marcus Peters played a key role in both of the Chiefs takeaways in 29–13 victory over the Miami Dolphins on Sunday. Blair Kerkhoff The Kansas City Star
That’s the action of a franchise with more blown leads than wins in playoff games.
One more time, maybe there is a better and more sensible explanation, but here’s what it looks like at the moment: Hunt, who cowered when given the opportunity to stand up for his players’ rights last fall, wanted the headache gone.
He has been outspoken about wanting players to stand for the anthem, and talked Peters into staying in the locker room for the song. Hunt is a conservative man by nature, and it’s not a stretch to believe he wanted one of the NFL’s least conservative players off his team.
Because the other explanations don’t make as much sense.
The Chiefs want you to believe they are serious about winning and just traded one of their best players.
The Chiefs are trying to get younger and just traded a 25-year-old star.
The Chiefs’ secondary was awful last year and they just dumped (by far) their best cornerback.
The Chiefs retained a defensive coordinator who was exposed in 2017, deciding it was more about a lack of talent, and just shipped off one of the league’s most productive and dangerous defenders.
The Chiefs’ defense emphasizes creating turnovers, and they just traded the man who has created more turnovers than anyone else since he entered the league.
The Chiefs, in other words, have a disconnected vision of their future, or no serious expectations of success this season, or both.
Peters is not without his faults. Obviously. He is hyper competitive, which is his greatest strength right until the moment it becomes his greatest flaw. You don’t know when he’ll draw a personal foul, but you can expect at least a few every season.
Kansas City Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters has lost his cool or done something that has resulted in a fine several times during the 2017 season. Neil Nakahodo, Pete Grathoff, David EulittThe Kansas City Star
Reid is by reputation one of the league’s great players’ coaches, and along with Terrell Owens, Peters is one of just two players Reid has suspended in 19 years. Peters’ protests during the national anthem angered a loud portion of the Chiefs’ fan base, and despite handing out turkeys and coats in Kansas City last year, the drama was never going fully away.
There is little doubt he was unhappy in Kansas City. Some of this was inevitable, because the player and his adopted home were so different. Peters could have asked to be traded, but his only leverage was a threat to sit out (which would mean not being paid, and not accruing service time toward free agency) or to not sign an extension (but the Chiefs could’ve controlled him for up to four more seasons).
The Chiefs were not against the clock here. They had time on their side.
The Chiefs could have supported the player, could have worked with the player. They could have found common ground. They could have defended the player against unfair public criticism, if that’s what it took.
Good organizations do that. The Chiefs traded the player. Organizations whose last Super Bowl appearance is old enough to be a grandfather do that.
One more time for the people in the back: Hunt, Reid, and Veach deserve the opportunity to explain. Chiefs fans deserve that, too. Maybe there is something that brings it all together.
But at the moment, only two explanations come to mind that make more sense than Hunt wanting the player out.
The first is that Peters had somehow become such a problem that he was breaking the locker room, and the organization made the advance decision to deal him now before he made more money and his trade value slipped.
That would have to account for the Chiefs players upset by the trade, require something much worse than what’s known so far, and be a tacit admission of failure by a coach hired in part because of his ability to get the best out of strong personalities.
The second apparent explanation would be that the Chiefs are fully embracing a rebuild, and selling off all valuable parts while they reset around quarterback Patrick Mahomes. If that’s the case, then more big trades should be expected.
There are varied holes in this logic, too, from the Chiefs having a good roster already to the NFL’s established history of teams winning with quarterbacks on rookie contracts.
But, at least it would be something.
At least it would be something that didn’t leave the sinking suspicion that the Chiefs just caved to the ugliest parts of their fan base and the weakest part of human nature by avoiding discomfort even as it sets them back competitively.
znModeratorMMQB: Marcus Peters Now Burdened with the Question of What Went Wrong in Kansas City
The Chiefs knew what they were getting when they drafted Marcus Peters. Now as he’s traded away to the Rams, the talented cornerback draws the short end of the stick. If Kansas City is successful in 2018, the franchise will reap the praise. But Peters? He’ll be shrouded by questions of many wondering what went wrong in K.C.
By CONOR ORR February 23, 2018
The worst kept secret of the NFL offseason thus far has finally been made public. The Chiefs, who seemed just as unhappy with the maintenance of cornerback Marcus Peters as Peters did with playing for the Chiefs, signed divorce papers on Friday that can be made official when the new league year begins on March 14, a little less than a month from now.He’ll be traded to the Rams, as ESPN first reported, for what will likely end up being a draft-pick compensation.
Kansas City will surely miss the talents of a cornerback who, since 2015, has arguably been the NFL’s most successfully aggressive cover corner. Since Peters’s rookie season, no player has made more interceptions (Peters has seven more than the next highest total), no player has more passes defensed and only four players have a lower completion percentage when thrown to. But in the meantime, we’ll praise Kansas City for “cleaning out the house” so long as they finish above .500 in 2018.
Peters will get what many in the NFL blindly label a “fresh start” as the Chiefs continue their roster overhaul with players about whom they will complain less, and this may end up benefitting both parties down the road. Relationships deteriorate at home, in business and on sports teams rapidly and sometimes the only answer is a new voice, a new location and new surroundings. It was time for something to happen and the mechanisms of the game took the proper course.
The only difference is that in the NFL the player starting over faces a discriminatorily high burden on his end.
The immediate hand-wringing over the deal on Friday was textbook. As the news filtered out, so did televised reminders that the Chiefs suspended Peters in the past, and that he was kicked off his college football team for “multiple run-ins with the coaching staff.” The lay football fan catching up on the news probably saw the transaction, shook their head and thought “Figures, that guy was always a problem.”
But what about the team that drafted him knowing full well this would be an investment that required time and effort? In Marcus Peters’s NFL.com scouting report, which is accessible to anyone with an internet connection, one NFC position coach said that he wouldn’t dream of drafting Peters in the first two rounds of the draft. Another scout said that he was off their board altogether. But Kansas City drafted him in the first round, pick No. 18. They prioritized talent like they tend to do, but the franchise will only reap the positive coverage should Peters falter in Los Angeles, or should they find another star to replace him with the draft picks they get back.
Meanwhile, Peters starts in a new location shrouded in controversy. What really happened? How disruptive must a player be in order to be dealt with one season and an option year left on his rookie contract? The leverage is always with the team, and not on a 25-year-old tasked with cleaning up his reputation just because we all assume (or were told) that’s the way it happened.
Maybe Peters wanted out just as badly and worked to make it happen. It would be one of the few times in NFL history that a team accommodated a player’s wish without also getting something invaluable in return. Maybe, like every team would like you to believe, there are reasons for the deal that if we really knew it would all make sense.
For now, we’re left with Tweets like these from former Eagles president Joe Banner, an executive who worked closely with Chiefs head coach Andy Reid for many years:
Starting to see some of the philosophical differences that lead to Dorsey departure from KC. Chiefs showing focus on character and willingness to make aggressive trades. That’s more like the Andy Reid I worked with.
— Joe Banner (@JoeBanner13) February 23, 2018
My question: How does someone focus on building character by seemingly just getting rid of someone or something that wasn’t agreeable? Wasn’t the whole point of the sport to teach everyone, from the top down, something truly valuable about responsibility and accountability to one another?
znModeratorThe Chiefs had some good reasons to trade Marcus Peters
Adam Teicher
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — From his first NFL play, when he made an interception, Marcus Peters showed his time with the Kansas City Chiefs would be uncommon. He didn’t disappoint in that regard.
Peters continued to show his ability. He wasn’t always intent on just covering his receiver. More than once in three seasons with the Chiefs, Peters peeled off the receiver he was covering to make an interception on a pass intended for someone a teammate was covering.
A cornerback with Peters’ package of skills doesn’t come to the NFL often, period, much less to one of its 32 teams. Peters is truly a once-in-a-generation player.
From that aspect, the trade the Chiefs arranged to send Peters to the Los Angeles Rams is puzzling. They’re really trading Peters, who is 25 and plays one of the NFL’s most important positions?
But, as with the Alex Smith trade, there are also some good reasons for the Chiefs to get rid of Peters. These reasons aren’t quite as evident as they were with the Smith trade, though.
Peters had a strange season for the Chiefs in 2017, off the field and on it.
The Chiefs suspended him for a game for his bizarre behavior during a loss to the New York Jets. Peters picked an official’s penalty flag off the field and tossed it into the stands. He then retreated to the locker room without being ejected. When he later returned to the Kansas City sideline, he wasn’t in full uniform.
Peters also was involved in shouting matches with assistant coaches and directed an expletive toward a fan behind the bench at Arrowhead Stadium. He disappointed Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt for his refusal to stand during the national anthem last season, and the two later came to an agreement in which Peters stayed in the locker room until the anthem was finished.
Peters played his position well last season but suddenly developed a distaste for physical contact, as if he was playing not to get hurt. Some of his actions in his efforts to avoid contact bordered on the comical.
The Chiefs were getting to the point that they had to make a decision on Peters. The contract he signed as a first-round draft pick in 2015 has one year remaining, though the Chiefs could have extended it for another season by exercising the fifth-year option.
Either way, the Chiefs were soon going to have to pay Peters a lot of money or lose him. The Chiefs have a small sample size on what life without Peters might be like, but perhaps it’s instructive. They struggled to play pass defense all season with Peters in their lineup as they finished 29th by allowing 247 yards per game.
During his one-game suspension, the Chiefs played one of their best defensive games of the season. They shut out the Oakland Raiders through three quarters and let down only in the final period after they resorted to a prevent defense.
The Chiefs in the end decided to get what they could for Peters now, when he has up to two seasons remaining on his contract and their asking price would be higher than if they waited until next year.
We’ll find out as soon as next season whether they made the right call. But they had to make the choice now, and, from this vantage point, it doesn’t look as if they made a bad one.
znModeratorWell, now that the discussion veered a bit in favor of TEACHING those topics, I didn’t say anything about this earlier BUT now I have to jump back in and say I agree with Zooey. It would seem like there are 2-3 topics it is impossible to get students to write about without it going badly wrong because emotions drive it first and foremost. Getting them to think critically about such loaded topics will not work. You would end up in a position where you would be trying to insist that the logic or evidence does not work, and, the writer would be so partisan that he/she would only see YOU (the teacher) as being partisan.
If I were teaching high school I would never assign those issues for student writing. It would be begging for trouble. Those are open warfare issues. You can’t teach critical thinking when the parties involved are THAT emotionally invested about their view. They would only end up seeing your guidance and constructive feedback as sides taking.
So IMO, there are controversial topics where you can ask students to be receptive to open debate and constructive feedback…and there are some where that’s just asking too much.
Then a joke occurred to me. What if, here, in this thread, we get so emotionally invested on this particular topic that it causes absolutely divisive and open conflict?
In my little dark humor mind, that would be kinda funny…..
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znModeratorHe must’ve been an epic crap head in the locker room. Cancerous.
Because trading away a top 5 corner on a cheapo rookie contract is the stupidest crap i ever heard.
This is what worries me.
By all reports the Rams has a fantastic locker room last season. Hate to have anything or anyone damage that.
I was thinking about that. I don’t know if the Chiefs defense has anyone the stature or veteran “been there”-ness of Donald, Brockers, Quinn, AO. Heck for that matter Peters was drafted a year after Joyner.
Let alone Wade.
Don’t know for sure, but, I don’t think the Chiefs defense has the locker personality the Rams D does.
Plus here you are, a top 5 corner, and you are now on a defense with Donald, the 4 time pro bowler. If it were me I would think “hey we could have something here.”
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znModeratorRams trade quickly changes complexion of their offseason
VINCENT BONSIGNORE
As the sun quietly began rising over Los Angeles Friday morning, the Rams faced the formidable task of figuring out a way to keep intact a defense for which key defensive backs Trumaine Johnson and Lamarcus Joyner were on the brink of unrestricted free agency, and All-Pro defensive tackle Aaron Donald sat at the doorstep of a huge pay day from a new long-term contract.
With roughly $50 million to work with under the NFL’s hard salary cap and other areas of need on a young, promising roster, retaining Johnson and Joyner while also hooking up Donald was certainly doable.
Albeit with some creative and clever number crunching, and likely at the expense of releasing or restructuring the contracts of a few veteran players, letting other free agents walk and perhaps leaving some areas of need unaddressed. The dizzying cost of doing business in the NFL can be cruel, tricky and frustrating at times.
That was early morning Friday. By mid morning everything had changed.
And for the better after General Manager Les Snead went all commando again with another aggressive move.
Snead is building quite reputation for stealth maneuvering, and the Rams are much better off for it. Two years ago it was trading up to the top of the draft to grab franchise quarterback Jared Goff. Last year it was the bolt of lightening at the end of training camp when he traded for dynamic wide receiver Sammy Watkins.
And on Friday, he was in the process of reeling in one of the best lock-down pass defenders in the NFL, in a move that makes as much sense on the field as it does on the payroll.
In another blockbuster, the Rams acquired Kansas City Chiefs Pro Bowl cornerback Marcus Peters, whose 19 interceptions over the past three seasons are the most in the NFL. Peters stands to make just $1.7 million in base salary in 2018, and will be under control for the next two years at a reasonable cost once the Rams pick up his fifth-year option for 2019.
The trade won’t be official until March 14, the official date the NFL trading period for 2018 begins, but sources have confirmed the deal is agreed to and in place.
Just like that, the Rams got younger, better and more financially flexible as they approach an offseason for which improving on last year’s surprising 11-5 finish and closing ground on the elite teams in the NFL is the singular priority.
Boom. What a way to kick off the offseason.
In one move, the Rams changed the entire complexion of their to-do list. From the draft to free agency to financial flexibility, the dynamics are dramatically altered.
Peters will cost the Rams a yet-to-be-disclosed package of draft picks, and it almost certainly means Johnson, their veteran cornerback, will leave via free agency.
And while Peters is an absolute stud, he does come with some baggage. As a junior at the University of Washington in 2014 he was suspended for one game and later dismissed from the team altogether for disciplinary reasons. Last season with the Chiefs he was suspended for a game after reportedly getting into an argument with a coach.
The Rams are counting on the positive environment cultivated by head coach Sean McVay and a strong, veteran locker room creating a nurturing comfort zone from which Peters can grow, mature and prosper. But there’s no guarantee he’ll be a model citizen from here on out. So there is risk.
But the upside is far too great not to take the leap of faith. Peters is a ball-hawking defender who has 55 passes defended since 2015, also an NFL best. And there are reasons to believe he can get better, considering he’ll play under Rams defensive coordinator Wade Phillips in a scheme that doesn’t just ask a lot from it’s cornerbacks, but also rewards them by pushing them and putting them in position to shine.
Just a pure BALL HAWK.
And joining the @RamsNFL defense.@marcuspeters' 2017 highlight reel! pic.twitter.com/09lwQZZifE— NFL (@NFL) February 23, 2018
Peters, who is equally adept at playing man or zone coverage, is a prime candidate to take his game to a higher level under Phillips and behind playmakers like Donald, Michael Brockers and Alec Ogletree.
Aside from the obvious talent, he’s just now hitting his prime and, with two years remaining on a manageable rookie deal, he provides major flexibility. Keep in mind Johnson made $16.7 million last season and undoubtedly is seeking a long-term deal with a yearly salary roughly in that same neighborhood.
Instead of deciding between Johnson and Joyner or paying them upwards to $30 million combined, the Rams can comfortably bring Joyner back either on a long-term contract or the franchise tag while also retaining free agent wide receiver Sammy Watkins and locking up Donald on new deal. It also means outside linebacker Robert Quinn is more likely to return rather than be a salary cap casualty.
It also allows them to peek outside their own building for improvements. The Rams have needs along the defensive line, outside linebacker and tight end, and by getting younger, cheaper (and better) at Johnson’s position they can take a more serious look at help in those areas through free agency.
Yes, there are some red flags. And Peters will absolutely want to get paid soon. Just as Todd Gurley and Jared Goff will, and Donald is about to be. The Rams have a ton of good, young, talented players. And the price tag is rising every day to keep them long term.
But how bad a world do the Rams operate in when their biggest problem is figuring out ways to fit so many great players under the salary cap?
It remains to be seen who Peters will start alongside at cornerback. Veteran Kayvon Webster is recovering from a ruptured achilles tendon and backup Nickell Robey-Coleman is a free agent. But the underrated Troy Hill is expected back, and seems up to the challenge of filling in for Webster if need be to start the season.
Those are issues for another day, though.
When the Rams woke up Friday they faced a ton of free agent questions, a glaring need at cornerback and only so much cap space to go around.
By mid morning they had one of the best shutdown corners in the fold, and more financial flexibility.
It was a good day, to be sure.
February 23, 2018 at 7:32 pm in reply to: Schefter: “Rams finalizing trade with Chiefs for CB Marcus Peters #83068
znModeratorJust had a source who has provided me good info in the past tell me Marcus Peters requested a trade after the Titans playoff loss.
No, I'm not kidding.
— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) February 23, 2018
==Adding Marcus Peters to a Wade Phillips defense will be a beautiful thing.
— Gregg Rosenthal (@greggrosenthal) February 23, 2018
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Unless Marcus Peters has a pending murder charge we don't know about, the @Chiefs just made the worst trade in perhaps the history of the franchise.
— Patrick Allen (@RPatrickAllen) February 23, 2018
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The #LARams currently have the NFL’s off. & def. players of the year & after the Peters trade they’ll also have the ‘15 off. & def. rookies of the year. Throw in Aaron Donald’s DROY in ‘14 & Sean McVay’s recent COY, helps illustrate the wealth of talent they’ve assembled in LA.
— Omar Ruiz (@OmarDRuiz) February 23, 2018
February 23, 2018 at 7:27 pm in reply to: Schefter: “Rams finalizing trade with Chiefs for CB Marcus Peters #83067
znModeratorFebruary 23, 2018 at 7:26 pm in reply to: Schefter: “Rams finalizing trade with Chiefs for CB Marcus Peters #83066
znModeratorMarcus Peters: From KC to LA pic.twitter.com/UlZNDWOHSq
— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) February 23, 2018
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