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znModeratorThe idea that the USA’s involvement in Syria can’t accomplish anything is serious.
The idea that the USA started the situation in Syria is just bad history. Things are far from being that simple.
The idea, floated during the election, that Trump as opposed to Clinton, was at least going to keep the USA from being involved in foreign entanglements, was delusional. This is a good rule of thumb when assessing Trump, and many were stating it during the election: no matter how bad you think Trump will be on something, he was always going to be far far worse.
April 14, 2018 at 8:50 am in reply to: recent Snead audios (1 w/ Peter King, 1 /w Rick Gosselin & Clark Judge) #85118
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This is here because it;s virtually a transcript of the recent Snead audios.
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After a Busy Month, Rams will Begin Offseason Program on Monday
Myles Simmons
Since the start of the new league year on March 14, Los Angeles has officially added four dynamic players to its roster: cornerback Marcus Peters, cornerback Aqib Talib, defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, and wide receiver Brandin Cooks.
Having done so, the Rams have in many ways created a perception that the club is “all in” on attempting to win a championship in 2018. Because each team’s goal is to hold the Lombardi Trophy at the end of season, there is some truth to that thought process. But according to general manager Les Snead, there’s more to it for L.A.
“I think simply put 2018 is important. We definitely want to repeat as NFC West Champions,” Snead said last week. “But … a lot of the players we have acquired are young and have evolved to be in the prime of their careers. We’d love to take advantage of that in not just ’18 but in ’19, ’20, ’21 and moving forward.”
Part of the reason Los Angeles was able to be so aggressive in this offseason is because quarterback Jared Goff has emerged as a strong starting quarterback after just two years in the league.
“Well I think we’re in a window where our quarterback, who was part of winning 11 games last year, [is] still on a rookie deal,” Snead said. “So, I do think as a general manager you do have to realize and be aware that your in that window and have an opportunity to maybe add some players — maybe one or two more than you would if you hadn’t not had to do the QB.”
That’s part of what has given the Rams the flexibility to add a player in free agency like Ndamukong Suh, who has proven his value throughout his career. And an Aqib Talib, who has familiarity and respect for defensive coordinator Wade Phillips.
When it comes to these four players, though, Snead said even he didn’t necessarily envision acquiring each of them.
“I would say no,” Snead said. “I think when we first set out it was more a vision of OK, solidify, let’s call it, the defensive backfield — because at that time Lamarcus [Joyner] was a free agent, Trumaine Johnson was a free agent. So, you knew you had to solidify that. However that was going to play out and you knew that if you didn’t get one guy or the other, you were going to have to adjust and you had a plan for that.
“Now, again, the plan is usually unrestricted free agents who you know are available or the draft,” Snead continued. “So as things evolve, get a call from Kansas City to see if you’re interested in Marcus Peters and then okay, that begins. And I think I’ve given the media credit for really Talib in that it was floating around that they may want to cut him for a QB, then they may want to trade him, so you kind of take advantage of that intel as it goes along.”
But even as Snead and the organization have been aggressive this offseason, the Rams have become a team that each of these players truly wants to join. In some ways, it’s fairly different that the franchise has become a kind of destination team.
“When we relocated out here, you take anything out other than Southern California and you did know that would be very appetizing for young professional athletes. So that speaks for itself — if you go out and there’s the weather, and the no humidity and all that,” Snead said. “But I do think, hey, starting with hiring a really young coach who was successful, as Brandin said, watching from afar, you go, ‘OK, that team has some unity, some chemistry, that seems like a good place to play in.’
“And I give the guys credit,” Snead added. “They vet, they talk to their friends who play in this league and they go, ‘OK, wait a minute, you really want to go play for, let’s call it, ‘not even just Sean McVay, but Wade Phillips, and all the guys in between.’”
And so as Los Angeles begins its second offseason program under McVay on Monday, there is an urgency to defend the NFC West title. And to go further in the postseason than the club did last year. But the Rams know there’s a process in order to do that, and it starts with taking things one day at a time.
“Yes, 2018 is important, ’19 is very important, and I think Sean and I have been saying the whole time that guess what? It’s ’18, but we’re still 11 wins behind the ’17 season,” Snead said. “So just because we’ve had, let’s call it, a flashy 2018 offseason, doesn’t mean we’re any better this year than we were last year. Because we’re 11 games behind last year’s team, but it’s up to us to start here in the next couple of weeks like we did last year and make sure we win 12 or more.”
znModeratorAaron Donald-Khalil Mack debate
Bucky Brooks
THE DONALD-MACK DEBATE: Is inside or outside pressure more valuable?
We keep talking about the NFL being a quarterback-driven league, but this offseason could change that narrative when the past two Defensive Player of the Year recipients sign deals that pay them “quarterback money” for their dominance as disruptive pass rushers.
Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack are each on the verge of breaking the bank. Both fifth-year pros, Donald and Mack are in line for lucrative contract extensions following a series of spectacular campaigns that confirmed their status as elite players. This will put pass rushers in the spotlight, forcing executives to think deeper about the value of particular quarterback hunters in the team-building process.
For years, general managers, personnel execs and scouts ranked pass rusher as the second-most important position in football, with most citing defensive end/outside linebacker as the marquee spot on defense. But lately, with pass-rushing defensive tackles or inside sub-package rushers taking over games in critical moments, I sense that sentiment changing. Teams are increasingly looking to win with A-gap (space between the offensive guard and center) pressure, due to the chaos and disruption at the point of attack. For immobile quarterbacks, in particular, pressure from the middle of the line completely disrupts their timing in the pocket and blurs their vision and/or blocks available passing lanes.
That’s why I’m fascinated to see the numbers Donald and Mack will tally at the end of their negotiations, because it will shed light on just how valuable executives view premier inside and outside pass rushers at the moment. From a contract perspective, each player is looking at a deal that should feature somewhere around the $60 million guaranteed Ndamukong Suh received as part of his six-year, $114 million contract in 2015 and the $70 million in guarantees included in Von Miller’s six-year, $114.5 million deal in 2016.
NFL Network’s Steve Wyche says Mack is seeking guarantees in excess of $65 million. Meanwhile, Donald’s apparently on the verge of becoming the highest-paid defensive player in the league. Based on their production and performance as disruptive sack artists, they are certainly worthy of getting deals that place them near the figure commanded by top quarterbacks: $20 million-plus per season. Mack has amassed 40.5 sacks in four years, including 36.5 over the past three. He also has added nine forced fumbles as the Raiders’ designated pass rusher. Donald has been just as productive as a disruptor, with 39 sacks and nine forced fumbles to his name. He has also delivered 108 QB hits during that span (compared to 84 from Mack), while amassing 72 tackles for loss (Mack has 68) as a destructive force on the interior.
Given Mack and Donald’s emergence as elite defenders in a league full of blue-chippers, it is not surprising that executives are looking for clones at their respective positions. With that in mind, I thought I would pose a question to a handful of my scouting buddies to see how they view pass rushers, and more specifically, what kinds of pass rushers they prefer. Would you want to build your defense around an inside or outside pass rusher? Here are some of their responses …
AFC assistant general manager: “I’m old school, so I’m going to go for the edge rusher.”
AFC college scouting director: “I would take an inside rusher like [Aaron Donald] or Warren Sapp because they can disrupt the interior line, which will affect both the run and pass. Plus, the pressure in the face of the quarterback is better than an edge rusher because he can be pushed around the edge.”
NFC pro personnel director: “You can’t go wrong with either one, but the inside rusher makes a bigger impact. If you can affect the quarterback immediately up the middle or disrupt the run up the middle, it messes up plays from the jump.”
AFC pro personnel director: “I’ve always been taught that you build your defense from inside out. I’m going to go for the inside pass rusher because he can completely disrupt the game.”
A second NFC pro personnel director: “Philosophically, you would want to take the edge rusher, but Aaron Donald’s success clouds the debate. … It’s easier to create matchup problems on the inside because teams can always turn protections to edge guys and use running backs and tight ends to help the offensive tackle.”
Former NFL vice president of personnel: “Ideally, you would take the edge rusher because they command so much attention. But when you see a guy like Donald dominate from inside, it makes you re-think that a little bit.”
I find it interesting that the overwhelming majority of executives I spoke to preferred the inside rusher over the edge rusher. That’s a drastic philosophical shift from what I was taught when I entered the business. Yet, it falls in line with what one of my old coaches told me as a young player. Dick Jauron, my defensive coordinator with the Jacksonville Jaguars, said a defense should be strong down the middle, and that you need to build it with that premise in mind. He told me that philosophy is true in all sports (point guard and center in basketball; catcher, pitcher, shortstop, second baseman and center fielder in baseball), which is interesting when you consider the entirety of his point.
From a statistical standpoint, the argument doesn’t necessarily hold up when looking at the sack numbers from the 2017 season. The top 23 sack producers were listed as defensive ends/outside linebackers before Geno Atkins appears on the list with 9.0 sacks as a defensive tackle. (Donald is listed as a 3-4 defensive end, but plays inside in the Rams’ nickel rush package.)
That brings me back to my fascination with the Donald and Mack contract negotiations. With the majority of evaluators favoring an inside pass rusher, I’m curious to see which guy lands the bigger deal. Compensation reflects value, so we will soon see if the inside rushers (or edge rushers with inside pass-rush ability) become the new marquee players on the defensive roster.
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znModeratorthe pair have both graded within the top six among players at the position in every season since 2014, and in that span, Donald has racked up a staggering 496 impact plays (total number of quarterback pressures and defensive stops), while Suh has accounted for 333 impact plays, which rank first and fourth among all interior linemen in that span, respectively.

znModeratorPFF… from Friday the 13th: stats that should strike fear in any opposing coaching staff
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-scary-nfl-stats-for-friday-the-13th
Friday the 13th is upon is in the middle of April and with that, there is no better time to look at scary stats that opposing NFL coordinators and coaching staffs will definitely lose sleep over later this fall. Be it a pair of edge rushers or a passing attack down the field, the following stats put fear in their opponents on paper, let alone when it’s actually time to don the pads.
Aaron Donald & Ndamakung Suh vs. all interior offensive linemen

Firmly atop this list is the freshly inked partnership of Donald and Suh, whose presence on the same defensive line will make even the most competent interior offensive linemen second-guess themselves. As two of the most well-rounded interior defensive linemen in football, the pair have both graded within the top six among players at the position in every season since 2014, and in that span, Donald has racked up a staggering 496 impact plays (total number of quarterback pressures and defensive stops), while Suh has accounted for 333 impact plays, which rank first and fourth among all interior linemen in that span, respectively.
Jared Goff & Brandin Cooks vs. opposing defenses
Something that PFF’s own Gordon McGuinness explained in great detail last week; the Los Angeles Rams are all-in for the 2018 season, which is evidenced by the most aggressive offseason in the NFL this year. In addition to signing Suh, the Rams also sent a first-round pick to the New England Patriots in return for fifth-year wide receiver Cooks, which adds a dynamic, vertical threat to Sean McVay’s offense. Since entering the league in 2014, Cooks has amassed 1,794 yards from passes that traveled at least 20 yards in the air, which is second only to Julio Jones in that span, and he’s generated a catch rate of 44.9 percent and a passer rating of 101.4 on such throws – which rank second and eighth among receivers with at least 75 deep targets in that span, respectively. Given that Goff ended the 2017 campaign as the league’s sixth-most accurate quarterback on deep passes, the Goff-to-Cooks combination could prove lethal to opponents in 2018.
Aqib Talib, Marcus Peters, Lamarcus Joyner & Nickell Robey-Coleman vs. passing attacks
In addition to the aforementioned acquisitions of Suh and Cooks, the Rams also traded for veteran cornerbacks Talib and Peters to add to an already talented defensive backfield that contains slot cornerback Robey-Coleman and corner-turned-safety Joyner. Talib is playing the best football of his career right now, coming off a 90.6 overall grade in 2016 and an 86.2 grade last season, where he allowed just 0.57 yards per coverage snap – the third-best mark among players at the position. The acquisition of Peters also gives the Rams one of the best playmakers at the cornerback position, a player who has racked up a whopping 50 combined pass breakups and interceptions since 2015, the most among cornerbacks in that span. With those two on the perimeter, the Rams were wise to lock up Robey-Coleman to an extension this offseason, and his signature gives the team one of the stingiest slot corners in the game, evidenced by the 0.80 yards per coverage snap he allowed throughout the 2017 season, which was the 10th-best mark among slot corners. Add in Joyner at safety, who ended the 2017 campaign with the highest coverage grade among safeties (92.2) and the Rams will enter the 2018 season with one of the most formidable pass defenses in the NFL, which is enough to scare any opposing offense.
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The Huddle Report Ranks NFL Draft Experts
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If you agree or not with the overall rankings, that is not the point of this Draft Post.
In 2017, The Huddle Report Listed their Top 100 Players and 88% were selected in the top 100.
In 2017, The Huddle Report Listed their Top 200 Players and 86% were selected in the top 200.
With that being said, I thought I would list their TOP 200 of 2018 as a reference guide and another resource to put in your draft toolbox.
THE HUDDLE REPORT TOP 200
1 QB Josh Allen Wyoming 6-5 237 4.7 84.76
2 QB Sam Darnold USC 6-3 221 4.8 74.17
3 RB Saquon Barkley Penn St 6-0 233 4.4 94.33
4 QB Josh Rosen UCLA 6-4 226 4.9 78.74
5 QB Baker Mayfield Oklahoma 6-1 215 4.8 75.65
6 ER Bradley Chubb North Carolina St 6-4 269 4.6 93.85
7 OG Quenton Nelson Notre Dame 6-5 325 5.2 87.64
8 CB Minkah Fitzpatrick Alabama 6-0 204 4.4 80.93
9 CB Denzel Ward Ohio St 5-11 183 4.3 83.82
10 S Derwin James Florida St 6-2 215 4.4 89.9811 LB Roquan Smith Georgia 6-1 236 4.5 86.41
12 DL Vita Vea Washington 6-4 347 5.1 –
13 LB Tremaine Edmunds Virginia Tech 6-5 253 4.5 –
14 DL DaRon Payne Alabama 6-3 311 4.9 90.43
15 WR Calvin Ridley Alabama 6-1 189 4.4 76.14
16 QB Lamar Jackson Louisville 6-2 216 – –
17 OC James Daniels Iowa 6-3 306 5.2 88.65
18 DL Maurice Hurst Michigan 6-1 291 4.9 89.59
19 OT Connor Williams Texas 6-5 296 5.0 92.44
20 ER Harold Landry Boston College 6-2 252 4.6 90.8221 CB Jaire Alexander Louisville 5-10 196 4.3 82.29
22 ER Marcus Davenport UTSA 6-6 264 4.5 91.50
23 DL Taven Bryan Florida 6-5 291 4.9 93.59
24 WR DJ Moore Maryland 6-0 210 4.4 88.55
25 OT Mike McGlinchey Notre Dame 6-8 309 5.2 87.12
26 LB Rashaan Evans Alabama 6-2 232 4.7 80.39
27 LB Leighton Vander Esch Boise St 6-4 256 4.6 95.03
28 OG Isaiah Wynn Georgia 6-3 313 – –
29 DL Harrison Phillips Stanford 6-3 307 5.2 90.30
30 CB Josh Jackson Iowa 6-0 196 4.5 83.6431 RB Derrius Guice LSU 5-11 224 4.4 83.15
32 CB Mike Hughes Central Florida 5-10 189 4.5 79.86
33 OG Will Hernandez UTEP 6-2 327 5.1 86.46
34 OT Kolton Miller UCLA 6-9 309 4.9 93.10
35 WR Courtland Sutton SMU 6-3 218 4.5 85.14
36 S Ronnie Harrison Alabama 6-2 207 4.5 81.64
37 CB Carlton Davis Auburn 6-1 206 4.5 81.45
38 CB Isaiah Oliver Colorado 6-0 201 4.5 82.05
39 WR Christian Kirk Texas A&M 5-10 201 4.4 82.88
40 RB Sony Michel Georgia 5-11 214 4.5 –41 ER Sam Hubbard Ohio St 6-5 270 4.9 90.08
42 S Justin Reid Stanford 6-1 207 4.4 84.99
43 TE Dallas Goedert South Dakota St 6-5 256 – –
44 OC Billy Price Ohio St 6-4 305 – –
45 OT Tyrell Crosby Oregon 6-5 309 5.2 88.62
46 WR James Washington Oklahoma St 5-11 213 4.5 83.23
47 TE Hayden Hurst South Carolina 6-5 250 4.6 85.97
48 ER Lorenzo Carter Georgia 6-5 250 4.5 91.45
49 CB Donte Jackson LSU 5-11 178 4.3 –
50 RB Ronald Jones USC 5-11 205 4.6 82.9651 TE Mike Gesicki Penn St 6-6 247 4.5 96.41
52 ER Arden Key LSU 6-5 238 4.7 82.43
53 S Jessie Bates Wake Forest 6-1 200 4.5 81.86
54 OG Austin Corbett Nevada 6-4 306 5.1 87.09
55 DL Rasheem Green USC 6-4 275 4.7 90.37
56 WR DJ Chark LSU 6-3 199 4.3 87.86
57 QB Mason Rudolph Oklahoma St 6-5 235 4.9 75.24
58 RB Nick Chubb Georgia 5-11 227 4.5 89.77
59 LB Uchenna Nwosu USC 6-2 251 4.6 86.64
60 RB Rashaad Penny San Diego St 5-11 220 4.4 83.4161 WR Anthony Miller Memphis 5-11 201 – –
62 OT Martinas Rankin Mississippi St 6-4 308 – –
63 OT Brian ONeill Pittsburgh 6-7 297 5.3 79.35
64 OT Chukwuma Okorafor Western Michigan 6-6 320 4.8 94.05
65 OC Frank Ragnow Arkansas 6-5 308 4.9 94.93
66 OT Orlando Brown Oklahoma 6-8 345 5.8 78.17
67 OG Braden Smith Auburn 6-6 315 5.2 93.06
68 LB Malik Jefferson Texas 6-2 236 4.5 88.91
69 S Kyzir White West Virginia 6-2 218 4.5 85.14
70 DL DaShawn Hand Alabama 6-4 297 4.8 92.1371 ER Josh Sweat Florida St 6-5 251 4.5 95.14
72 LB Josey Jewell Iowa 6-1 234 4.8 82.89
73 DL BJ Hill North Carolina St 6-3 311 4.9 88.43
74 DL Nathan Shepherd Fort Hays St 6-4 315 5.0 92.55
75 WR Equanimeous St Brown Notre Dame 6-5 214 4.4 84.29
76 DL Tim Settle Virginia Tech 6-3 329 5.2 87.27
77 CB Anthony Averett Alabama 5-11 183 4.3 76.32
78 DL Derrick Nnadi Florida St 6-1 317 5.3 85.94
79 CB MJ Stewart North Carolina 5-11 200 4.5 81.36
80 WR Dante Pettis Washington 6-1 186 4.4 –81 TE Mark Andrews Oklahoma 6-5 256 4.6 86.53
82 OT Jamarco Jones Ohio St 6-4 299 5.5 78.48
83 RB Kerryon Johnson Auburn 6-0 213 4.5 88.73
84 LB Jerome Baker Ohio St 6-1 229 4.5 88.14
85 ER Kemoko Turay Rutgers 6-5 253 4.6 –
86 ER Dorance Armstrong Kansas 6-4 257 4.8 83.81
87 ER Ogbonnia Okoronkwo Oklahoma 6-2 253 4.7 92.04
88 LB Darius Leonard South Carolina St 6-2 234 4.7 –
89 ER Duke Ejiofor Wake Forest 6-4 270 – –
90 OT Geron Christian Louisville 6-5 298 5.3 –91 S Marcus Allen Penn St 6-2 215 4.5 86.09
92 TE Ian Thomas Indiana 6-4 259 4.7 82.09
93 CB Nick Nelson Wisconsin 5-11 200 4.5 82.86
94 CB Duke Dawson Florida 5-11 197 4.4 –
95 RB Royce Freeman Oregon 6-0 229 4.5 85.64
96 S Terrell Edmunds Virginia Tech 6-1 217 4.4 91.85
97 DL RJ McIntosh Miami 6-5 286 – –
98 WR Deon Cain Clemson 6-2 202 4.4 81.06
99 WR TreQuan Smith Central Florida 6-2 203 4.4 85.25
100 WR DaeSean Hamilton Penn St 6-1 203 4.4 82.25101 OC Mason Cole Michigan 6-4 307 5.2 81.80
102 WR Michael Gallup Colorado St 6-1 205 4.5 83.27
103 DL Trenton Thompson Georgia 6-3 288 5.0 89.63
104 QB Luke Falk Washington St 6-4 215 4.8 73.15
105 CB Rashaan Gaulden Tennessee 6-1 197 4.6 75.04
106 CB Tony Brown Alabama 6-0 199 4.3 79.36
107 LB Micah Kiser Virginia 6-0 238 4.6 87.83
108 LB Shaquem Griffin Central Florida 6-0 227 4.3 –
109 DL Breeland Speaks Mississippi 6-3 283 4.8 90.74
110 S DeShon Elliott Texas 6-1 210 4.5 84.18111 ER Chad Thomas Miami 6-5 281 4.9 85.92
112 S Quin Blanding Virginia 6-2 207 4.6 78.32
113 OC Will Clapp LSU 6-4 311 5.3 87.01
114 WR Marcell Ateman Oklahoma St 6-5 216 4.6 81.42
115 RB Nyheim Hines North Carolina St 5-8 198 4.3 83.17
116 RB Kalen Ballage Arizona St 6-2 228 4.4 85.90
117 1st S Armani Watts Texas A&M 5-11 202 4.4 82.56
118 DL Andrew Brown Virginia 6-4 294 5.0 86.11
119 CB Tarvarus McFadden Florida St 6-2 204 4.6 84.78
120 CB Holton Hill Texas 6-2 196 4.4 77.45121 DL Deadrin Senat South Florida 6-0 314 5.1 86.37
122 3rd QB Mike White Western Kentucky 6-5 224 5.0 73.65
123 DL Justin Jones North Carolina St 6-3 309 5.0 89.56
124 OG Wyatt Teller Virginia Tech 6-5 314 5.2 88.41
125 P Michael Dickson Texas 6-2 208 – –
126 OT Brandon Parker North Carolina AT 6-8 305 5.4 84.71
127 WR Simmie Cobbs Indiana 6-3 220 4.6 79.13
128 RB Bo Scarbrough Alabama 6-1 228 4.5 91.45
129 CB Kevin Toliver LSU 6-2 192 4.5 77.91
130 RB Josh Adams Notre Dame 6-2 215 4.4 83.98131 LB Fred Warner BYU 6-3 236 4.6 90.48
132 WR Auden Tate Florida St 6-5 228 4.6 81.55
133 OT Desmond Harrison West Georgia 6-6 292 4.9 –
134 RB Jaylen Samuels North Carolina St 6-0 225 4.5 85.41
135 ER Jeff Holland Auburn 6-1 249 4.7 84.85
136 ER Tyquan Lewis Ohio St 6-4 265 4.6 92.63
137 ER Jalyn Holmes Ohio St 6-5 283 4.8 90.24
138 QB Kyle Lauletta Richmond 6-3 222 4.8 78.84
139 ER Hercules Mataafa Washington St 6-2 254 4.7 85.72
140 WR JMon Moore Missouri 6-3 207 4.6 84.82141 WR Allen Lazard Iowa St 6-5 227 4.5 89.27
142 OT Will Richardson North Carolina St 6-6 306 5.2 89.65
143 CB Isaac Yiadom Boston College 6-1 190 4.5 79.05
144 WR Jordan Lasley Ucla 6-1 203 4.5 81.41
145 RB Mark Walton Miami 5-10 202 4.6 77.43
146 TE Troy Fumagalli Wisconsin 6-5 247 – –
147 S Jordan Whitehead Pittsburgh 5-10 198 4.5 80.00
148 CB Chris Campbell Penn St 6-1 195 4.5 86.45
149 CB Quenton Meeks Stanford 6-1 209 4.4 87.86
150 WR Cedrick Wilson Boise St 6-2 197 4.5 82.82151 CB Michael Joseph Dubuque 6-1 187 4.5 78.00
152 S Godwin Igwebuike Northwestern 5-11 213 4.4 85.11
153 LB Dorian ODaniel Clemson 6-1 223 4.6 81.66
154 TE Jordan Akins Central Florida 6-3 249 – –
155 CB Dane Cruikshank Arizona 6-1 209 4.4 87.36
156 CB JC Jackson Maryland 5-10 201 4.4 82.88
157 WR Deontay Burnett USC 6-0 186 4.7 –
158 RB Akrum Wadley Iowa 5-10 194 4.5 77.27
159 TE Dalton Schultz Stanford 6-5 244 4.7 84.48
160 CB Taron Johnson Weber St 5-11 192 4.5 77.91161 WR Antonio Callaway Florida 5-11 200 4.4 77.19
162 LB Tegray Scales Indiana 6-0 230 4.7 –
163 LB Genard Avery Memphis 6-1 248 4.5 91.09
164 WR Keke Coutee Texas Tech 5-10 181 4.4 78.16
165 OT Joseph Noteboom TCU 6-5 309 4.9 85.60
166 OG Sam Jones Arizona St 6-5 305 5.3 84.08
167 TE Will Dissly Washington 6-4 262 4.8 82.66
168 CB DJ Reed Kansas St 5-9 188 4.5 80.68
169 CB Danny Johnson Southern A&M 5-9 181 4.4 78.66
170 RB John Kelly Tennessee 5-10 216 4.5 84.27171 LB Oren Burks Vanderbilt 6-3 233 4.5 91.86
172 CB Dmontre Wade Murray St 5-11 206 4.5 82.95
173 LB Nick Deluca North Dakota St 6-3 251 4.8 82.28
174 RB Darrel Williams Lsu 6-0 225 4.7 81.17
175 OT Alex Cappa Humboldt St 6-6 305 5.3 83.58
176 LB Skai Moore South Carolina 6-2 226 4.7 85.34
177 CB Kameron Kelly San Diego St 6-2 204 4.6 79.28
178 TE Durham Smythe Notre Dame 6-5 253 4.8 84.13
179 DL Kentavius Street North Carolina St 6-2 280 4.8 –
180 P JK Scott Alabama 6-6 208 4.8 75.95181 CB Levi Wallace Alabama 6-0 179 4.6 74.84
182 3rd QB Kurt Benkert Virginia 6-3 218 4.9 77.40
183 RB Chase Edmonds Fordham 5-9 205 4.5 81.27
184 ER Ade Aruna Tulane 6-5 262 4.6 95.10
185 DL James Looney California 6-3 287 4.8 94.42
186 OC Scott Quessenberry UCLA 6-4 310 5.0 94.23
187 LB Matthew Thomas Florida St 6-3 232 4.5 93.68
188 DL John Franklin-Myers Stephen F Austin 6-4 283 4.7 92.26
189 LB Jake Pugh Florida St 6-3 246 4.6 92.25
190 TE Jordan Thomas Mississippi St 6-5 265 4.7 92.13191 DL Bilal Nichols Delaware 6-4 306 4.9 91.59
192 TE Tyler Conklin Central Michigan 6-3 254 4.8 91.30
193 OG Rod Taylor Mississippi 6-3 320 5.2 90.85
194 LB Leon Jacobs Wisconsin 6-1 246 4.4 90.24
195 DL Folorunso Fatukasi Connecticut 6-4 318 5.2 90.03
196 OG Skyler Phillips Idaho St 6-2 318 5.1 90.02
197 DL Kahlil Mckenzie Tennessee 6-3 314 5.1 89.87
198 WR Dylan Cantrell Texas Tech 6-3 226 4.5 89.59
199 S Troy Apke Penn St 6-1 200 4.3 89.05
200 WR Trey Quinn SMU 5-11 203 4.5 80.41
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/valueboard.shtml
MOCK DRAFT CHAMPIONS
2017 Joe Marino – NDT Scouting 46
2016 Forrest N. Long – Scout Fantasy, Matt Faulk – Draft Season (tied) 49
2015 Kevin Hanson – Eat Drink and Sleep Football 53
2014 Bryan Perez – FRG Scouting 43
2013 The Fantasy Typhoon – Fantasy Football 1on1 502012 Ben Standig – Fantasy Football Toolbox 51
2011 Rick Gosselin – Dallas Morning News 53
2010 Will Spencer & Rob Engle – Draft Breakdown 50
2009 Mike Band – Draft Ace 50
2008 Robby Esch – The Huddle Report, Ricky Dimon – FF Toolbox (tied) 452007 Clark Judge – CBS Sportsline 55
2006 Rick Gosselin – Dallas Morning News, Nolan Nawrocki – Pro Football Weekly (tied) 57
2005 Harry Away – NFL Talent Experts 56
2004 Scott Wright NFL Draft Countdown 52
2003 Rick Gosselin – Dallas Morning News 42
2002 The Red Zone 50Mock Draft Scores 5 YEAR AVERAGE
1 Jason Boris – Times News PA 43.00
2 Forrest Long – The Huddle Report 42.80
3 Brad Clark – Fanspeak 40.80
4 Mike Mayock – NFL Network 40.80
5 Kevin Hanson – Eat Drink & Sleep Football 40.40
6 Brian Phlipot – The Football Hub 40.20
7 Ben Standig – CSN Mid-Atlantic 39.808 Ryan McCrystal – Draft Ace 39.80
9 Mike Loyko – NE Patriots Draft 39.40
10 Draft Team – NFLFans.com 39.40
11 Matthew Jones – Draft Examiner 39.00
12 Scott Wright – Draft Countdown 38.80
13 Peter Clarke – Pro Player Insiders 38.60
14 Walt Deptula – WCCP Radio 38.60
15 Jonathan Cook – The Huddle Report 38.20
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/mock.scores.shtmlTOP 100 BOARD CHAMPIONS 5 YEAR AVERAGE
1 DRAFT BOARD GURU 84.8
2 THE HUDDLE REPORT 83.4
3 DRAFT DAY DK 83.4
4 DRAFT ACE 83.2
5 NFL DRAFT LINE 83.0
6 BOB McGINN – Journal Sentinel 83.0
7 LANCE ZIERLEIN – NFL.com 82.88 NFL ROUGH DRAFT 82.8
9 MIKE MAYOCK – NFL NETWORK 82.8
10 TODD McSHAY – SCOUTS INC 82.6
11 DRAFT COUNTDOWN 82.6
12 GREAT BLUE NORTH 82.0
13 NFL DRAFT SCOUT 82.0
14 DRAFT DADDY 81.8
15 WALT DEPTULA WCCP-FM 81.8
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znModeratorRams set on defensive line now that Ndamukong Suh is on board, but may still look to add depth
GARY KLEIN
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-defensive-line-20180413-story.html
The Rams do not need a good draft to boost their defensive line.
They accomplished the feat, at least for the short term, with one huge free-agent acquisition — signing Ndamukong Suh to a one-year, $14-million contract.
Suh, selected second overall in the 2010 draft, will line up in a front that includes reigning NFL defensive player of the year Aaron Donald and a third former first-round pick, Michael Brockers, who enjoyed perhaps his most successful season in 2017.The most highly regarded prospects in the April 26-28 draft — players such as North Carolina State’s Bradley Chubb, Washington’s Vita Vea and Texas-San Antonio’s Marcus Davenport — will be long gone by the time the Rams finally make the 87th pick, a third-round selection on Day 2.
But they still will be looking to possibly add depth to a line that could be dominant.
Suh should help the Rams improve dramatically against the run. Last season, they ranked 28th in rushing defense, surrendering 122.3 yards per game.
Suh, with 51½ sacks, also should help an already formidable pass rush.
The NFL’s best quarterbacks are capable of avoiding pressure and stepping up in the pocket to make plays. Atlanta’s Matt Ryan gave a clinic in last season’s playoff victory over the Rams.
But with Suh, Donald and Brockers now there …
“It’s a real bonus,” Phillips said, “to have the kinds of guys we have in the middle.”
The Rams have plenty of productive rotational players, but they could still use depth, especially players of the larger variety.
Brockers’ injury against the Falcons last season forced Morgan Fox into a role that lasted longer than he was accustomed to, limiting his effectiveness.
Defensive linemen under contract: Ndamukong Suh ($14.5 million), Michael Brockers ($11 million), Aaron Donald ($6.9 million), Ethan Westbrooks ($2.25 million), Matt Longacre ($1.9 million), Dominique Easley ($850,000), Morgan Fox ($630,000), Tanzel Smart ($596,000), Omarius Bryant ($480,000).
Free agents: The Rams re-signed Easley, who is coming off a season-ending knee injury, and let rotational tackle Tyrunn Walker become a free agent. They might venture into the market after the draft to add depth.
Draft: Last year, when they were looking for receivers, the Rams found Cooper Kupp in the third round and Josh Reynolds in the fourth. The scouting department is on the spot again as the Rams look for value with a total of eight picks in the third, fourth and sixth rounds.
Roster decisions: General manager Les Snead has said for months that the Rams have a plan for signing Donald to a huge extension. Those kinds of moves usually come with a cost that forces the exit of others.April 13, 2018 at 2:01 pm in reply to: recent Snead audios (1 w/ Peter King, 1 /w Rick Gosselin & Clark Judge) #85102
znModeratorLes Snead’s Building Project is Ram Tough –Audio
Los Angeles Rams general manager Les Snead has done more to bolster an 11-5 team this off-season than anyone thought possible, creating with a string of acquisitions a defense that appears on paper at least to be just as potent as the league’s highest-scoring offense was last season. Yet Snead remained adamant this week that adding Pro Bowl cornerbacks Aqib Talib and Marcus Peters and Pro Bowl defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh to a team with a loaded offense didn’t mean anything in April. “The biggest thing we have to fight now is complacency,’’ said Snead of the highly touted Rams. “Patting yourself on the back is human nature. We have to make sure we work just as hard (as they did in 2017). It’s a day-by-day approach.’’
Hall of Fame co-hosts Rick Gosselin, Ron Borges and Clark Judge interview the Rams GM
Snead interview starts at 25:00
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It’s the same as always, in all human regimes, ever.
We just do what we can.
znModeratorHere’s what Aaron Donald told Sean McVay about adding Ndamukong Suh
Cameron DaSilva
Here's what Aaron Donald told Sean McVay about adding Ndamukong Suh
One of the hurdles the Los Angeles Rams had to get over in order to sign Ndamukong Suh was ensuring that Aaron Donald was OK with the move. That’s not to say he could have prevented the team from inking Suh, but upsetting him by signing an outside free agent to a contract worth double his salary wouldn’t have been wise long-term.
Fortunately, Donald gave Les Snead and Sean McVay the green light after he was approached about the possibility of Suh joining the Rams. That came as no surprise, knowing Donald’s personality and demeanor, but the Rams were right to ask him before making a splash like that.
McVay and Snead shared insight on Donald’s response to the Rams hosting Suh, but we never heard it from his mouth. On Episode 3 of “Behind the Grind,” Donald spoke on the situation.
“Coach McVay called me and was asking me about it and asked how I would feel about it, and I said, ‘Hey, if he can come in and do what he’s been doing and making plays, bring him in, Coach! We’re trying to win a Super Bowl.”
The idea of adding Suh to a defensive line that already featured Donald and Michael Brockers seemed like a pipe dream. After all, the Rams didn’t exactly have the most money to offer and play a scheme that Suh’s never been in.
However, the former Lion and Dolphin put money aside and focused on winning, which is something the Rams did plenty of a year ago. He’s excited about playing with Donald, and the feeling is mutual.
“You got Brock on the other side. You got Suh, and then you got myself,” Donald added. “And I know they’re going to bring some new, good edge rushers in to help us, too. So I’m excited to work with him, play with him, build a brotherhood with him, so we’re gonna see.”
The Rams still have plenty of work to do in the draft – particularly at linebacker – but they’re in great shape at this point in time. Simply having Donald, Suh and Brockers on the same defensive line, to go along with Aqib Talib, Marcus Peters and Lamarcus Joyner in the secondary, gives them one of the top defenses in the NFL.
znModeratorRams will be looking to address linebacker in draft as they rebuild middle of defense
GARY KLEIN
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-linebackers-20180412-story.html
With the addition of defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and cornerbacks Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib, the remade Rams defense is even more stout along the front and upgraded on the back end.
But what of the middle?
Trades that sent linebackers Alec Ogletree and Robert Quinn to the New York Giants and the Miami Dolphins, respectively, make linebacker a position of need for the Rams heading into the April 26-28 draft.“That’s a position where you have to add depth,” general manager Les Snead said. “It’s very hard to replace Alec Ogletree with one player, because Alec could play the run and play the pass.
“We may have to address that with a rotation of players who have different strengths.”
The Rams’ strength and conditioning staff managed linebacker Mark Barron’s multiple physical issues last season. It could be a challenge again as Barron, 28, begins his seventh NFL season, the third year of a five-year contract he signed before the 2016 season.
Third-year pro Cory Littleton, a special teams standout, stepped in at times last season for Barron and Ogletree, and could start inside with Barron. Second-year pro Samson Ebukam is in line to take Quinn’s spot after starting two games and recording two sacks last season.
The Rams added free-agent Rakim Wilson, who started 16 games the last two seasons for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips acknowledged that the Rams need “six or seven” linebackers to fill out the 90-man offseason roster.
“We’re not where we need to be yet,” he said. “But I think we will be after the draft. … I think we’ll be comfortable about where we are.”
Linebackers under contract: Mark Barron ($10 million), Cory Littleton ($635,000), Rakim Wilson ($750,000), Samson Ebukam ($707,000), Bryce Hager ($723,000), Carlos Thompson ($630,000), Ejuan Price ($555,000), Garrett Sickels ($480,000).
Free agents: Connor Barwin, 31, is testing the market. There is a possibility that the locker room leader and mentor for Ebukam and others could return, but it would be at a price well below the $3.5 million he earned last season. Free agent Junior Galette was on the Washington Redskins roster when coach Sean McVay and linebackers coach Joe Barry were with that franchise, but he was hurt both seasons.
Draft: The Rams have eight picks — one in the third round, three in the fourth round and four in the sixth. They will be looking for linebackers — especially edge rushers — in all rounds, and also as they attempt to sign undrafted free agents.
Roster decisions: The Rams are not in panic mode about their linebacker corps, especially in a league in which five and, occasionally, six defensive backs are deployed to stop passing offenses. Barron’s salary was thought to make him a potential target for release or restructure, but the Rams instead dealt Ogletree to make room for Talib and his $11-million price tag.
znModeratorWho are the Rams best lower round picks in their history back to 1960? Just for fun. 4th round or lower.
Deacon Jones, 14th round, 1961
Charlie Cowan, 4th round, 1961
Joe Scibelli, 10th round, 1961
Gary Larsen, 10th round, 1964
Diron Talbert, 5th round, 1966
Harold Jackson, 12th round, 1968
Rich Saul, 8th round, 1970
Larry Brooks, 14th round, 1972
Rod Perry, 4th round, 1975
Carl Ekern, 5th round, 1976
Vince Ferragamo, 4th round, 1977
Kevin Greene, 5th round, 1985
Greg Zuerlein, 6th round, 2012
znModeratorThis all came out back when, in the run-up to the Iraq invasion.
znModeratorBrugler: 7-round mock NFL Draft
http://nfldraftscout.com/brugler-7round-mock-nfl-draft/
87. Los Angeles Rams: Jerome Baker, LB, Ohio State (6-1, 229, 4.53)
111. Los Angeles Rams: Brandon Parker, OT, North Carolina A&T (6-8, 305, 5.37)
135. Los Angeles Rams: Hercules Mata’afa, DE, Washington State (6-2, 254, 4.76)
136. Los Angeles Rams: John Kelly, RB, Tennessee (5-10, 216, 4.64)
176. Los Angeles Rams: Korey Robertson, WR, Southern Miss (6-1, 212, 4.56)
183. Los Angeles Rams: Bradley Bozeman, OC, Alabama (6-5, 296, 5.46)
194. Los Angeles Rams: Matt Pryor, OT, TCU (6-6, 343, 5.60)
195. Los Angeles Rams: Kentavius Street, DL, NC State (6-2, 280, 4.87)
znModeratorfrom NFL Draft Rumors
ALBERT BREER
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/12/cleveland-browns-nfl-draft-rumors-quarterback-mmqb
• Late first-round picks lack value. The other day I was spitballing on a potential Bills-Giants swap with a team exec, who said to me, “The problem is that the 22nd pick might as well be in the third round.” He was exaggerating, but only a little bit. The consensus I’ve heard is the difference between 22 and 52 is minimal this year, which is part of why the Colts did well to land a couple high second-rounders in their trade with the Jets.
A good draft for grunt positions. You like interior offensive linemen? How about nose tackles? Nickel corners? Then this is the draft for you. We told you a couple months ago that Barkley and Nelson would likely be the top two prospects in the class—and that a back and a guard being rated that high would cause positional value debates all over the Top 10. Well, those could continue on down the line with really good tailbacks and guard/centers, and inside corners and big bodies for the defensive line available late in the first round and into Round 2.
znModeratorfrom NFL Draft Rumors
ALBERT BREER
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/12/cleveland-browns-nfl-draft-rumors-quarterback-mmqb
It’ll be interesting to see which deal gets done first—one for Rams DT Aaron Donald or Raiders DE Khalil Mack. Both are expected to get past Ndamukong Suh’s non-QB record of just under $19.1 million per. The question is who tops whom, something those in the agent community are watching since Donald is repped by CAA and Mack by fellow titan Lagardere. “The agents are in an arm’s race,” said another prominent agent. “And they’re backed by two of the biggest companies in sports entertainment, so money isn’t relevant to them. Looking like they won is.” The two direct agents, by the way, are Todd France (Donald) and Joel Segal (Mack), both of whom have pretty impressive client lists.
3. Part of the issue for Mack may be the Raiders’ willingness to hand over a big number in fully guaranteed money, since they aren’t as cash-rich as some other franchises and those dollars have to be fully funded. Suh’s 2015 deal still has the highest full guarantee for a defensive player in NFL history, at just under $60 million. Denver’s Von Miller is second at $44 million.
znModerator5 ideal OLB targets for the Rams in Round 3 of the NFL Draft
Cameron DaSilva
5 ideal OLB targets for the Rams in Round 3 of the NFL Draft
Early on in the draft process, the Los Angeles Rams’ top targets included the likes of Harold Landry and Marcus Davenport – two of the best pass rushers in the 2018 class. After trading for Brandin Cooks, however, those players will be long gone when the Rams finally go on the clock in the third round.
As a result, their focus will shift toward players more likely to be there at No. 87, particularly at outside linebacker. There are still starters to be had at that spot, they just won’t have the ceilings that Landry and Davenport possess.
Here are five ideal targets for Los Angeles in the third round, not all of whom are locks to be there.
Rutgers OLB Kemoko Turay
Turay should be the Rams’ No. 1 target in the third round, regardless of position. He’s not the most refined pass rusher, but his best football is ahead of him. He boasts elite athleticism with great explosiveness, both of which are traits teams look for in pass rushers in the middle rounds of the draft.
Put him on a team coached by Wade Phillips and he’ll absolutely maximize his potential relatively soon. As it stands right now, he can step in from Day 1 and be a designated pass rusher for the Rams, which is exactly what they need off the edge.
He’s the perfect size to play outside linebacker, too, standing at 6-foot-5, 252 pounds with 4.65 speed. At his pro day, Turay posted a 6.84-second three-cone drill, which would’ve ranked fourth among defensive linemen and linebackers at the combine. That’s an outstanding number for an edge rusher.
Florida State OLB Josh Sweat
Sweat is a similar player to Turay in the fact that he wasn’t wildly productive in college, posting only 5.5 sacks his final year at Florida State. However, at 6-foot-4, 251 pounds, he has great measurables and athleticism for the position. There are some concerns about his durability, having suffered two knee injuries since his senior year in high school, but when healthy, he has great potential.
He performed well at the combine, too, running a 4.53 40-yard dash with a 4.28-second 20-yard shuttle, both of which were among the best in Indianapolis. He fits well as both a 4-3 defensive end and 3-4 outside linebacker, the latter of which he’d obviously play in Los Angeles.
His draft projection is all over the map, from early second round down to the fourth round. The third round would be the sweet spot for him, especially for a team in need of an uber-athletic edge rusher.
Sweat’s length would also be a nice addition on special teams, particularly as a punt and field goal blocker.
Oklahoma OLB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo
Okoronkwo is clearly someone the Rams are interested in. He’s one of their 30 official pre-draft visits, which teams reserve for players they’re high on. A bit undersized at 6-foot-1, 242 pounds, Okoronkwo’s draft stock gets hurt by his lack of length. His 4.77 40-yard dash didn’t do anything to wow scouts, either, but his production is impossible to ignore.
Last season, he had 76 tackles, eight sacks and 17.5 tackles for loss, earning Co-Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year honors along with Malik Jefferson of Texas. Add those numbers to his nine sacks and 67 tackles in 2016, and it’s easy to see why teams are intrigued by him.
The third round is a perfect time to draft Okoronkwo, too. He does have a great motor and always gives 100-percent effort. He’d be a perfect fit in Wade Phillips’ defense, which doesn’t exactly prioritize top-tier measurables. Shaq Barrett, for instance, is just 6-foot-2, 249 pounds, while Von Miller is just a shade bigger at 6-foot-3, 250 pounds.
LSU OLB Arden Key
Key is quite possibly the biggest boom-or-bust prospect in the draft. If you watch his tape from 2016, you’ll see a potential top-10 pick. He earned All-SEC honors with 12 sacks and 14.5 tackles for loss, following up an eye-popping freshman year where he recorded 41 tackles and five sacks.
Pop in his tape from last season and you wonder whether he should be drafted before the fifth round. He took time away from the team for personal reasons and comes with some off-field concerns, which will give general managers and coaches pause in the draft.
At his best, though, he has the potential to be an elite pass rusher. If he can get his mind right and focus on football, Key could be a steal in the third round. Unfortunately, it’s unclear how committed he is to the game and his physicality after running a 4.89 and 4.91 in the 40-yard dash at his pro day.
That’s a terrible time, but it’s his burst and short-area quickness that will allow him to win at the next level … if he wants to.
USC OLB Uchenna Nwosu
Nwosu is an intriguing prospect in the fact that he has good size and speed at 6-foot-3, 251 pounds, running a 4.65 40-yard dash at the combine. He has the athleticism to chase down ball carriers from the backside, which is a plus, but he has room to grow as a pure pass rusher.
He sometimes has trouble getting off of blocks against the run and is best suited to rush off the weak side, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. He simply has the be better against the ground game, which is crucial when playing SAM linebacker in a 3-4 defense.
Initially, he can be a designated pass rusher for the Rams. Phillips will find the proper way to use him early on, which is what makes him such an enticing player in the third round.
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alyoshamucci says:
I’d add Holland because I think Sweat is off the board. Key won’t get there either … regardless of his 40 his tape is good.
I’d go
Sweat
Ogbo
Turay
NwosuApril 12, 2018 at 11:18 am in reply to: 49er fans throwing down gauntlets… & Montana on Garagepollo #85083
znModeratorJoe Montana: Jimmy Garoppolo offers 49ers ‘hope’ but too early to ‘anoint’ him
Nick Wagoner
SANTA CLARA, Calif. — It took little time for new San Francisco 49ers quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo to make a big impression after arriving in a trade from the New England Patriots last Halloween.
Garoppolo waited his turn and when he got it, led the Niners to a 5-0 surge down the stretch that included wins against playoff-bound teams such as the Tennessee Titans and Jacksonville Jaguars. That was enough for San Francisco coach Kyle Shanahan and general manager John Lynch to reward Garoppolo with a five-year, $137.5 million contract that at the time set a record for the highest average annual value in league history.
That finishing flourish was also enough for some excited 49ers fans to begin wondering whether Garoppolo could be the long-awaited franchise quarterback the team has sought since the days of Hall of Famers Joe Montana and Steve Young.
On Tuesday, Montana made a couple of media appearances in which he discussed what he saw from Garoppolo in 2017, how he sees Garoppolo moving forward and the buzz that seems to be building around the Niners’ new quarterback.
49ers fans are excited about the future with Jimmy Garoppolo, but Joe Montana is taking a more cautious approach. Kyle Terada/USA TODAY Sports
“I think it’s still a little early for [the hype] myself,” Montana said on NFL Network’s “Good Morning Football.” “He’s obviously had a lot more success in the games he’s played in so far than the other quarterbacks that have been there recently. So I think there’s a lot of excitement in the Bay Area about it. I think this year will be a big tell on it. They paid a lot of money for him. But I think there’s some belief there that he’ll be there for a while.”In a later appearance on Mad Dog Sports Radio, Montana expounded on why he believes it is too early for the hype. Specifically, Montana pointed to a history of quarterbacks who learned from legends leaving the nest and struggling to have similar success after departing.
“I just haven’t seen success from guys who have left behind quarterbacks like Tom [Brady] or go all the way back to Danny Marino,” Montana said. “When those guys leave and go to another system, if the guy in front of them leaves and they stay in that system, they seem to have more success. But if they leave and go to another team, I don’t think there’s been any successful quarterback that have made it for any length of time. There’s probably three right behind Tom that left already. So I’m hoping that this is a difference for the 49ers because he did bring a lot of life into the stands and to the fans there. They have a lot of hope.”
Montana, of course, is referring to former New England quarterbacks such as Matt Cassel, who learned from Brady and had some success in replacing him for a season but didn’t fare as well after becoming the starter for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Montana also said he believed Garoppolo benefited from taking over at a point in the season where expectations for the Niners were minimal.
“I think he came in at a good time at the end of a year of a really crappy year for them and I think there’s a lot of hope there but I still want to see a full season played,” Montana said. “Because it’s easy to come in at the end of a season when a team is down and no one is expecting things and be able to win. I don’t want to say it’s easy, that’s a bad word to choose. But it was all set up for him to be successful that way. So I just hope that it continues for the 49ers’ fans sake that this is the right person to take over there and it was worth paying all that money.
“You come in at the end of the season like that when there wasn’t a whole lot of expectation from the opposite side, from the other team they were playing at the same time. He did seem to uplift the team, which is a good sign. Everybody is anointing him right now, but let’s just give him some time to settle in and make sure he’s the guy.”
Garoppolo has started just seven games in his career, five of which came with the Niners at the end of the season. Understandably, Montana would like to see Garoppolo continue or at least approximate his late-season success before fully buying in.
Now that he’s locked in as the Niners’ starter for the foreseeable future, Garoppolo will finally have his chance to remove all doubt.
znModeratorRams Want to Repeat Success of Drafting Without First-Round Pick
Myles Simmons
The Rams are no stranger to quiet first rounds of the NFL Draft — particularly in the last few years.
Sure, Los Angeles traded up to select quarterback Jared Goff at No. 1 overall in 2016. But that created a relatively drama-free first evening of the draft for the franchise. And since the Rams traded their 2017 first-round pick to the Titans for the right to select Goff, last year’s opening night was tranquil, too.
The script will largely be the same on April 26, as the Rams traded their first-round pick to the Patriots as part of a deal to acquire wide receiver Brandin Cooks. But this year will at least start out quiet on Friday, too, as Los Angeles dealt its second-round pick to Buffalo last August to acquire wide receiver Sammy Watkins.
At this point, the Rams’ first 2018 draft pick doesn’t come until No. 87 overall — that’s the 23rd pick in the third round. Los Angeles does currently hold eight draft picks, with three in the fourth round, and four in the sixth. All the late-round picks prompted general manger Les Snead to joke with the media last week, “Yeah, we’re going to give up all our sixes for somebody’s first.”
But not having a pick until No. 87 does change the way the club approaches the draft. Realistically, it has to.
“I found it easy when we’re doing draft meetings now,” Snead said. “[L]et’s just say we’re [looking at] position A. You say, ‘Look, if these four or five players, if they fall guess what we’re picking them.’ They’re not falling to 87, so now we go, ‘Alright, let’s focus on the ones that are really realistic in that part of the draft, especially in the third and the three fourths.”
One factor that helps in drafting players in that range is the clarity the coaching staff and personnel staff have in what a fit looks like for the Rams on offense, defense, and special teams.
“We know what we’re looking for and then we just have to sit down,” Snead said. “Because I think when you’re specific with your fits in what you’re looking for, you can manage — especially those in that subset of picks — and try to find four contributors in that area.”
The Rams did go through a somewhat similar process last year and were successful with it. As Snead pointed out, L.A. drafted a pair of starters in wide receiver Cooper Kupp and safety John Johnson III. It won’t necessarily be easy, but the Rams would like to replicate that kind of success in 2018.
“I think we really have to scrutinize the players that are going to be in and around that third round pick and early fourth rounders and make sure we make the most out of them,” Snead said. “Historically, you can. Last year we got Cooper Kupp and John Johnson in the third round. You’d love to repeat that. Hard to do sometimes, but that will be the goal and you have to really take advantage of those slots and make it work.”
April 12, 2018 at 1:12 am in reply to: Rams face Ravens, Raiders, Texans & Saints in unusual preseason schedule #85078
znModeratorJB Long on the Rams Preseason Schedule
A few reactions to the Los Angeles Rams 2018 preseason schedule:
1) Based on last year’s precedent (and success), Rams starters don’t figure to play much in the 2018 preseason. However, to the extent starters do play, they’ll do so predominantly in games two and three, which will be AT HOME versus the Raiders and Texans. That’s a nice reward for LA season ticket holders.
2) That’s more travel than you would ideally build into your preseason slate. It’s possible the Coliseum renovation construction interfered, making it difficult for Rams to schedule according to their preference. We’ll learn more about that in coming days, perhaps.
3) I don’t attribute any significance (advantage/disadvantage) to playing the Raiders and Saints in the preseason, knowing they’re also on the regular season schedule. Especially not in McVay’s second season. Whenever the Rams connect with OAK and NO when it counts, the personnel and the scheme will bear little resemblance to what’s on the field in August.
4) at BAL: Six years after the Rams orchestrated “The RGIII Trade,” sending the No. 2 pick to WAS, now this figures to be the quarterback’s first live audition for his last chance in the NFL. The Ravens recently signed him to be their backup.
5) vs OAK: Raiders back in the LA Coliseum. Gruden vs McVay, the appetizer. We’ll also see this match-up in the regular season in Oakland. I thought it might make for a great Week 1 Monday Night Football opener, but might that opportunity be negated by the proximity of preseason game between the two teams? Not necessarily…
6) vs HOU: We didn’t get to see Deshaun Watson in person last year. He was injured shortly before the Texans were scheduled to play the Rams in 2017. Also didn’t get to see J.J. Watt. Potential to see both in the regular season tune-up between these franchises.
7) at NO: First of two trips to the Big Easy for the Rams in 2018. Brandin Cooks likely won’t play, and he’s already made his first “return to New Orleans,” as a member of the Patriots last season.[
April 11, 2018 at 7:36 pm in reply to: How to Watch the Draft, starting with Round 1 on April 26th at 8PM EST. #85073
znModeratorIf anyone has Sirius Radio I’d highly recommend listening to at least some of the draft on the radio. I always listen to the entire first round on NFL Radio. I also record ESPN’s and the NFL Network’s coverage and watch those later. Sirius’s coverage is far more extensive than than the tv networks. Pat Kirwin, Jim Miller and Gil Brandt have all spent time interviewing the prospects, they’ve been to Senior Bowl and Brandt has been to many of the Pro Days. They all have a decent feel for the needs of each team and Brandt always seems to have some inside information that no one else has access to. If you haven’t tried it out, give it a shot and let me know what you think. Or don’t do it, just watch it on your tv. What do I care?
You know what would be fun? If any things worth posting show up in your Sirius broadcast, post em here. Not saying take notes and write an exhaustive transcript. Just toss us a cool bone or two, anything that strikes you as interesting.
znModeratorPFF Draft Room – Los Angeles Rams
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pff-draft-room-los-angeles-rams
Los Angeles Rams general manager Les Snead will have his hands full attempting to find, and fill team needs with players in the 2018 NFL Draft. While the direction of their draft has largely been predicated on a list of needs created following mini-camp rather than by just selecting the best player available in year’s past, the Rams’ needs may be far and few between this offseason after their aggressive start to 2018.
With eight picks all within 108 selections of one another from Rounds 3-6, the Rams may become likely trade contenders in this year’s draft as they’ve addressed arguably their biggest need already this offseason with the acquisition of cornerbacks Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib to form one of, if not the best, secondary in the league. In years past, defensive coordinator Wade Phillips has been heavily involved in evaluating defensive players for the coaches so selecting an edge rusher early could be highly likely as well to play next to the fierce interior duo of Aaron Donald and Ndamukong Suh.
The Rams busy offseason has had their 2018 draft picks in constant flux. Out is their first-round pick (in exchange for Brandin Cooks), a fourth-round pick (Peters), a fifth-round pick (Talib) and a swap of sixth-round picks for Robert Quinn to go to Miami. In are a second-round pick for Sammy Watkins to head to Kansas City, a set of fourth-round picks (from Cooks & Quinn), and another fourth-rounder and a sixth-rounder for linebacker Alec Ogletree. All told, the Rams don’t make their first selection until Pick 87 of Round 3 this year and hold only one of their own original draft selections.
Los Angeles has heavily factored in Senior Bowl week production into their recent draft classes, evidenced by their selection Cooper Kupp and Samson Ebukam – smaller school products from Eastern Washington a year ago. Using our Wins Above Replacement (WAR – roughly the number of wins a team gets from replacing an off-the-street player with the player of interest) metric as a model, Kupp was the second-most valuable rookie wide receiver from the 2017 NFL Draft and 12th-most valuable rookie at any position a season ago. RB Todd Gurley ranked second among all running backs in WAR, behind only rookie talent Alvin Kamara of the New Orleans Saints. On the defensive side of the ball, an emerging star at safety in John Johnson III finished as the league’s 10th-most valuable rookie at any position from the 2017 draft.

HOW HAVE THE RAMS’ DRAFT CLASSES STACKED UP LEAGUE WIDE 2013-2017?
Overall WAR of drafted players for the Rams: 9th
Drafted Players with the Highest WAR (per season):– Aaron Donald
Arguably the NFL’s best player, earning a PFF grade above 88.2 each seson of his career.
– John Johnson III
Had a great rookie season, earning a PFF grade of 85.8 in the Rams secondary.
– Cooper Kupp
A steal of last April’s draft, Kupp was one of seven qualifying receivers to average more than 2.0 yards per route run from the slot.
– Todd Gurley
His 2016 struggles were real, but Gurley’s emergence as a receiver in 2017 (90.5 PFF grade there) was a revelation for the Rams’ offense.
– Lamarcus Joyner
His move from slot cornerback to safety was a boon for the Rams’ defense as it was for his PFF grade (from 78.4 to 90.3).
Drafted Players with the Lowest WAR (per season):
– Greg Robinson
Earned a PFF grade below 50.0 each of his seasons with the Rams.
– Tanzel Smart
Just 11 stops and six total pressures in 319 snaps in 2017.
– Tyler Higbee
Gave up an outrageous 13 total pressures as a pass-blocker at tight end in 2017.
– Gerald Everett
Started strong as a rookie, but faded a bit, catching just 53.1 percent of his targets, with three drops.
– Tavon Austin
Never lived up to his draft position or new contract, with a highwater mark of 509 receiving yards in 2016.
znModeratorPFF: Los Angeles Rams 2018 offseason moves
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-state-of-the-franchise-2018-rams
One of the busiest teams since the 2018 league year began, the Los Angeles Rams bolstered their defense, shipped away a playmaker (or two) and brought back key players who put forth career years in 2017.
While we wrote about their aggressive offseason moves earlier this year, after their signing of Ndamukong Suh, the Rams are firmly on the radar for a deep and lengthy playoff run in 2018. Perhaps going under-looked, is their franchise-tagging of cornerback-turned-safety Lamarcus Joyner who registered a career-high 90.3 overall grade last season. Joyner is joined by Marcus Peters, Aqib Talib, Nickell Robey-Coleman and burgeoning star in second-year safety John Johnson III to arguably form the league’s best secondary as a whole while also holding the league’s top interior defender duo in Suh and Aaron Donald.

With their aggressive offseason approach, the Rams have set themselves up to have a successful 2018 campaign while they can also look to the draft to add some depth and a key player or two at certain positions that could become an upgrade. What do PFF Senior Analysts Steve Palazzolo and Sam Monson think of their offseason so far?
April 11, 2018 at 9:20 am in reply to: articles & vids on the Cooks trade plus Cooks highlights etc. #85059
znModeratorCooks Eager to Work with New Teammates in L.A.
Myles Simmons
Wide receiver Brandin Cooks isn’t a stranger to trades. After three years in New Orleans, the Saints traded him to the Patriots in exchange for a first- and fourth-round pick in the 2017 NFL Draft.
Just over a year later, Cooks is on the move from the East to West Coast — again in exchange for a first-round pick.
“People have asked me, are you upset? Absolutely not,” Cooks said last week. “I’m able to play this game that millions would love to be in my shoes. And the fact [that it’s for] another first rounder? My family, they joke about it like, ‘You’ve been drafted in the first round three times, has anyone done that?’ So we try to take the positive out of everything. There’s a lot of positives in this one just like the last one. I can’t complain at all.”
That’s the kind of positive attitude Cooks appears to bring to every aspect of his life. Rams general manager Les Snead made that clear by stating at the beginning of the wide receiver’s introductory press conference, “I told Brandin and I was honest when I told him, that if my son could grow up to be half as respected as this guys was during the vetting process I’d be a jacked father for sure. So, that just lets you know what kind of kid this is.”
And as happy as Snead and head coach Sean McVay seem to be about adding Cooks, the wide receiver appears to be on the same page.
“I’m overcome with joy and gratitude to be able to have a special opportunity like this,” Cooks said. “It’s an extreme blessing. Words can’t explain it. I’m glad to be back on the West Coast and I’m looking forward to playing for such a great organization.”
A Stockton, Calif. native, Cooks said he was excited when he first heard about the trade. He was glad to receive a call from Patriots head coach Bill Belichick informing him of the trade, rather than finding out on television or through social media. Then he got on the phone with a few people from his new team, including McVay and wide receivers coach Eric Yarber.
“Right off the bat, the excitement — it just felt like it was a family atmosphere right away,” Cooks said. “I know those guys were just excited just as much as I was and being able to talk with them right off the bat and in a situation like this is huge. I thanked them for this opportunity and I look forward to getting to work.”
“You can see both of us were laughing and smiling through the phone,” Yarber said. “We didn’t need to see our faces, just our voices — we both were elated. He was happy to be here and I was happy to have him just like the rest of the staff members.”
While both Snead and McVay confirmed last week the Rams have had interest in acquiring Cooks dating back to a year ago, the wide receiver understandably wasn’t necessarily paying much attention to Los Angeles in that time. Cooks did say that even from afar, he could tell that the Rams are a young, talented team growing at a fast rate. And now that he’s gotten to meet McVay in person and talk with him a bit, Cooks has a particularly positive impression of McVay.
“[He’s] someone that’s on fire for this game — that breathes, eats, and sleeps for ball, and wants to give his team the best that he can possibly give to help win games,” Cooks said. “The guy is studying already. To be able to see that from a head coach, you have a ton of respect for that and it makes you want to go harder as a player because you know he’s going to put everything into it.”
But based on Cooks’ reputation, he might not need that extra motivation. According to a report from Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated’s The MMQB, a Patriots assistant told McVay just after the trade was executed that Cooks didn’t miss a single practice rep during the 2017 season.
Asked about the report, Cooks said he takes a lot of pride in his availability.
“At the end of the day it’s God’s grace to be able to be out there. And, I mean, I’m so young still,” Cooks said. “To be able to go out there and if I’m not feeling broken, I feel like I should be out there especially at this young age. So I take pride in that. But at the end of the day it’s a blessing in God’s grace that I’m able to do so.”
Now that the trade is official, Cooks is mainly looking forward to getting to work with his new teammates.
“I come and I just go to work,” Cooks said. “I don’t want the glory, I don’t want to fame. I just come in and always my whole life just wanted to do the best that I can do and be the best that I can be to help my team. I’m not looking for anything selfishly, I just want to help my team whatever case I can to be able to win games at the end of the day and do it in a quiet format.
“I love you guys [the media] and I love meeting everyone,” Cooks later added, “but at the end of the day I want to get to work with the fellas and be able to start to build that rapport together leading up to this year.”
He’ll get that chance shortly with the onset of the offseason program on April 16.
znModeratorFYI. For slightly older material and discussions, the April draft thread #1 is here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/rams-draft-april-thread-1/
April 11, 2018 at 9:04 am in reply to: Baldinger (& others): how will cooks fit in the rams offense? #85056
znModeratorcool_hand_luke says:
Cooks vs Jaguars AFC Championship Game
Went through the game video for the Patriots and Jaguars with the goal of learning more about Mr. Cooks. Please find my thoughts below:
10 targets –i include the pis as targets
6 catches, 100 yards
2 called Pass interference penaltiesRoutes ran as target
Streak x3 2xPI, 20+
Comeback x3 –10, 18, 18
Out x1– Inc
In x1–8
Post x1–Inc
Dig x1–25Most frequently the border receiver, aligned in bunch formations approximately 30% of the time
Coverage
The Jags gave him a free release all game. Either they aligned tight(within two yards) of Cooks or they play soft(5 plus yards off at snap) and kept cushion throughout the route. Most frequently Bouye was covering Cooks. The Jaguars were showing alot of cover 3 and 4 looks.
My thoughts–
Explosive speed. Coordinated. Creates separtion on vertical routes within five yards. Cuts well–is wide open on his comebacks waiting on the ball. This is likely also a factor of his deep speed as a threat.
After a few comments I read, my expectation was to see the Jaguars get physical with him–I did not see that at all. He released well and easy off the line, but was not challenged. The db was just mirroring him.
He appears to not have the desire to block. This was highly disappointing for me to see. He is a stand around and shield the db type of blocker(from this game only).
Good hands. He had a drop on a catchable ball. Otherwise, he is a solid hands catcher of the ball–two hands, eyes on ball, quick to pack it away while maintaining speed. One streak he let the ball drop into to his body but was a clean catch.
Not afraid of contact. Held on when he got hit making the catch or in traffic.
Will watch more games and get a better sample size. The speed and wr skillset is there, the size and offensive physicality is not.
znModeratorAaron Donald on verge of being highest-paid defender?
Chris Wesseling
As Tinsel Town’s Showtime Rams dominate the NFL’s offseason news cycle, inquiring minds want to know how the organization will squeeze Aaron Donald’s impending mega contract into a salary cap suddenly saturated with star power.
General manager Les Snead assured reporters last week that a new deal for Donald has already been budgeted into the team’s financial plans.
The Rams front office is under no illusion that the most valuable non-quarterback in the league will sign for anything less than top dollar.
Appearing on The MMQB Podcast with Peter King, Snead casually acknowledged that Donald is poised to supersede new teammate Ndamukong Suh as the game’s highest-paid defender.
“The nice thing about Ndamukong,” Snead offered, “at age 31 and somebody who’s been the highest-paid defensive player in football, winning was very important in this phase of his career.
“He’s well aware that when you can partner, be beside someone who is on the verge of being the highest-paid defensive player in football, then that’s a really good thing. I guess you’d say two is better than one.”
That makes sense. Over the past two years, Donald has surpassed a suddenly snakebit J.J. Watt as the dominant defensive force, featuring unparalleled speed off the snap.
The Rams have made it clear that Donald’s contract extension is a top priority, with team sources assuring NFL Network’s Steve Wyche that no player acquired this offseason will upset the budget already set aside for the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year.
Here’s where it gets tricky, though: Donald isn’t the lone upper-echelon defensive star in search of a market-setting contract.
Raiders pass rusher Khalil Mack, the 2016 NFL Defensive Player of the Year, is also seeking a lucrative new deal.
Whereas Donald spent last summer as a training-camp holdout in search of a pay day, it’s fair to wonder if his representatives will switch gears this time around, waiting for Mack to set a market soon to be surpassed by his counterpart in Los Angeles.
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