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znModerator“We’re gonna have a good career together.” – Coach KromerInside the call to Noteboom 📲 #RamsDraft
Posted by Los Angeles Rams on Friday, April 27, 2018
znModeratorJosh Norris@JoshNorris
Love the Rams selection of Noteboom.
Possibly planning for life after Andrew Whitworth. Hit elite 20 yard shuttle score.Kent Lee Platte@MathBomb
Noteboom posted an elite #RAS with fantastic numbers everywhere but vertical jump where he posted one of the worst scores of the class.
znModeratorJon Ledyard@LedyardNFLDraft
Big fan of Noteboom’s developmental upside. His drive-catch in pass protection is among the best in the class. Has to get stronger, but in a great spot to develop.Eric Galko@OptimumScouting
As I mentioned earlier, multiple NFL teams graded #TCU OT Joseph Noteboom highly. #Rams were one of them, surprised he didn’t go earlier.They get an offensive tackle they believe can be a high-end swing tackle, and good insurance behind Andrew Whitworth.
znModeratorDane Brugler:
10. JOSEPH NOTEBOOM | TCU 6050 | 309 lbs. | rSR. Plano, Texas (Plano) 6/28/1995 (age 22.8) #68
BACKGROUND: A three-star defensive end recruit out of high school, Joseph “Joe” Noteboom, who also starred as a club hockey player, was a sophomore tight end at Plano Senior before moving to defensive end and guard as a junior. He transitioned to left tackle as a senior, earning Honorable Mention all-state honors. Relatively new to the tackle position, Noteboom wasn’t considered a top recruit and committed to nearby TCU over offers from Texas Tech, Purdue and Duke. After redshirting in 2013, he played in all 13 games as a reserve in 2014. Noteboom became a sophomore starter and split his playing time between left and right tackle in 2016. He started exclusively at left tackle as a junior and started all 13 games. Noteboom started all 14 games at left tackle as a senior, earning All-Big 12 Honorable Mention honors. He accepted his invitation to the 2018 Senior Bowl.
YEAR (GP/GS) 2013: Redshirted 2014: (13/0) 2015: (13/13) 11 RT, 2 LT 2016: (13/13) 13 LT 2017: (14/14) 14 LT Total: (53/40) 29 LT, 11 RT HT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP COMBINE 6050 309 34 3/8 09 5/8 83 1/2 4.96 2.88 1.71 24 08’06” 4.44 7.65 27 PRO DAY N/A (positional drills only)
STRENGTHS: Broad shouldered frame with functional length…initial quickness to cut off wide speed…anchor issues, but sinks just enough to slow down speed-to-power moves…athleticism to advance to the second level and block outside the numbers on screens/stretch plays…rolls his hips at contact to engage and challenge defenders…competitive and looks to finish…collapses the line on down blocks…earned Academic All-Big 12 honors each of the last four seasons and graduated with his undergraduate degree (May 2017), playing as a graduate student as a senior…durable and started 40 straight games to finish his career, including starts at left and right tackle – also practiced at guard.
WEAKNESSES: Tall pass-sets…pads continue to rise once engaged, struggling to regain leverage…marginal anchor and plays too much on his heels…wide hands and soft punch, failing to create blow-back at contact…doesn’t maximize body angles…jarred off-balance, losing vision and footing…suspect sustain skills and upper body ends up overextended…out of control at the second level, ending up on the ground…has excess weight on his body…false start penalties were a negative trend.
SUMMARY: A three-year starter at TCU, Noteboom lined up in a two- and three-point stance as a left tackle for the Horned Frogs’ offense, starting 40 straight games to finish his collegiate career. His lower body movements are encouraging, which was confirmed with his quality numbers in the athletic drills at the Scouting Combine. Noteboom looks to deliver a jolt, but he isn’t a sustain player, lunging and struggling to stay square to his target. His effectiveness will greatly improve with better lower body sink and timing with his technique. Overall, Noteboom’s college tape is a mix of sloppy and successful snaps, but he has the resume and traits to move his way up a NFL depth chart, eventually pushing for starting reps at tackle or guard. GRADE: 4th Round
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znModeratorJoe Curley@vcsjoecurley
Just wrapped a press conference with Snead and McVay. They expect Noteboom to provide depth at both left and right tackle — “That’s no problem for him,” Snead said — and have the chance to eventually succeed Andrew Whitworth at LT.Noteboom steps in behind Andrew Whitworth, with Aaron Kromer as teacher.
Noteboom was a four-time Academic All-Big 12 selection. “He’s a very impressive person. We’re excited about Joe,” McVay said.
Notebook was a four-time Academic All-Big 12 selection. “He’s a very impressive person. We’re excited about Joe,” McVay said.
Snead said “bringing in a ‘let’s call it’ offensive lineman that we could develop for the future” was one of the scenarios they discussed entering the day. “When you wait until 87, there’s a lot of players (discussed).” Some were there. Some were gone.
Snead said Noteboom “won the combine” with his performance.
“You saw that athleticism obviously at TCU. When he goes to Mobile… it translated down there. When a guy goes to the Combine and does what he did, that does show me… there’s upside there. There’s skills in that body that can ascend.”
Snead on why the Rams traded down from 87 to 89 overall: “We had players on the board that we liked. We felt like Joe would fall based on the teams in front of us that we were going to move behind.”
znModeratorMyles Simmons@MylesASimmons
Snead/McVay at the podium. Snead touts Noteboom’s 40 starts as one of the reasons why #LARams wanted to pick him up. McVay says, ““He’s a very impressive person. … We’re excited about Joe.”During the presser, Snead said there probably isn’t a young tackle walking into a better situation with being able to learn behind Whitworth, Havenstein, and under OL coach Aaron Kromer.
McVay says part of drafting Noteboom is being able to add depth. The fact that Noteboom can play right and left tackle adds to his versatility.
McVay credits Snead and his staff for the team’s draft prep, as this was a scenario that they thought could happen and it did. Adds team feels really good about Noteboom and where things stand for tomorrow.
znModeratorThe newest #LARams tackle @jnoteboom68 checking in! 🐏#RamsDraft pic.twitter.com/yixmUq89So
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) April 28, 2018
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znModeratorFlipper336 sez:
Great pick for the Rams. Needs a year to bulk and add strength but his feet are as good as any other OT in the draft.
Noteboom impressed me with his technique and quickness. Extremely fast set, solid foot spacing and base, + knee bend, not a waist bender/plays with a flat back, outstanding mirroring defenders. Lightning quick adjusting to a second or even third defender. Hands are fast with great placement but lack power. Not a mauler by any stretch but effective tracking second level targets.
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PaulButcher59 sez:
I thought he faired well In his one on ones against Marcus Davenport at the senior bowl. His good feet help him handle speed rushers amd will only get bigger and stronger. also love his durability starting in 40 straight games.
He also worked out at RT and C and did well so he brings some versatility to the table.
If he can be a solid starter in a year or two he is a steal late 3rd and it also doesn’t put the Rams in a position where they feel forced into selecting an OT high in next years 2019 draft.
znModeratorA lot of good tweets here on the pick: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/tweets-4-27-including-noteboom-stuff/
znModerator"With the 89th pick in the 2018 #NFLDraft…" @Rodger_Saffold introduces the newest member of the #LARams, @jnoteboom68! #RamsDraft 📺: NFLN/FOX pic.twitter.com/WAqzl0PEL7
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) April 28, 2018
znModeratorAlden Gonzalez@Alden_Gonzalez
The Rams have drafted 9 players since the start of 2017. 7 of them played in the Senior Bowl.
znModeratorPFF@PFF_Rams
The LA Rams add offensive line depth in TCU’s Joseph Noteboom, who ranked 16th in pass-blocking efficiency among draft-eligible tackles in 2017 (97.9)Noteboom allowed 2 QB Sacks, 1 QB Hit, and 10 QB hurries for 13 total QB Pressures on 486 Pass-Blocking snaps in 2017. All categories were career lows over the last three seasons #LARams #NFLDraft
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Watch Joseph Noteboom's full NFL Combine performance: https://t.co/3yI8S4dQyg
— Joe Curley (@vcsjoecurley) April 28, 2018
znModeratorKristen Lago@kristennlago
“What a great, young team it is. I think it’s the perfect spot.” — Joseph Noteboom on being drafted by the #LaRams“I think they have an explosive offense which we had at TCU. Just athleticism, coachability. Just do whatever they want me to do, help the offense out and try to score many points.”
— Noteboom on what he hopes to bring to Los AngelesThe newest #LaRams left tackle will get to learn under 12-year veteran Andrew Whitworth. Noteboom said he “knew a lot about Whitworth” from watching him on tape.
— “It’s perfect, I’ll learn from a Pro Bowler, a veteran,” Noteboom said.
Quick story on the Rams No. 89 overall pick — Joseph Noteboom. The left tackle closed out his college career with 40 straight starts and was an All-Big 12 Honorable Mention in 2017
“Joe is a lucky man. I don’t think any other lineman will be in a better situation.” — Rams general manager Les Snead
znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
Hard to argue against the future of the NFC West at QB:Russell Wilson
Jared Goff
Jimmy Garoppolo
Josh Rosen*Note: This is where Peters, Talib, NRC, Shields, Joyner, JJIII come in handy. #LARams
znModeratorAlden Gonzalez@Alden_Gonzalez
Rams are gonna own that sixth round.Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Joseph Noteboom, on working with Andrew Whitworth: “I know a lot about Whitworth. I’ve watched a lot of him. I’m excited. I’m going to take in everything he’s telling me. That’s the perfect guy to learn from.”And yes, you probably guessed it, Joseph Noteboom played in the Les Snead Senior Bowl in January.
There are still a couple sixth-round picks the Rams don’t own, but I presume they’re working on that.
Ryan Kartje@Ryan_Kartje
“Yes. Finally, the NFC West champions get a pick in the draft,” @Rodger_Saffold tells the crowd after waking up just in time to reach the podium.ts Tweets, current page. Tweets & replies Media
Gary Klein@LATimesklein
Noteboom on Rams: “It’s fantastic just knowing all the pieces they’ve added, what a great young team it is. And Coach McVay. I think it’s the perfect spot.”Rams looking to build depth behind Andrew Whitworth
znModeratorAlden Gonzalez@Alden_Gonzalez
New Rams OT Joe Noteboom, out of TCU, played RT in 2015 and LT in 2016 and ‘17, never missing a game. He’s 6-5, 309; had an official visit with the Rams, played in the Senior Bowl and had a good Combine. Athletic; good technique, but concerns about his consistency. Might put on some extra weight in the NFL. On Rams, he’ll have time to grow.Rams return all five starting offensive linemen from last year, but their LT, Andrew Whitworth, is 36, and their RT, Rob Havenstein, can be a free agent next offseason. They need to build the next wave. Joe Noteboom is now a big part of that.
znModeratorI approve this pick. Had a chance to sit down with Joseph at the #SeniorBowl. Check out the interview below!https://t.co/puKHdIJbW3
— Downtown Rams (@DowntownRams) April 28, 2018
znModeratorJoe Curley@vcsjoecurley
Noteboom’s combine numbers 4.96 40-yard dash, 27 reps on the bench, 24.0-inch vertical leap, 102-inch broad jump, 7.65 3-cone drill, 4.44 20-yard shuttle. @DowntownRams @CVRamsClubNoteboom (at 4.96 seconds) was the fourth-fast OL in the 40-years dash at the Combine behind O’Neill, Harrison and Miller. @DowntownRams @CVRamsClub @TurfShowTimes
He was eighth in the bench and tied with Quenton Nelson at 11th in the 3-cone.
znModeratorJoseph Noteboom, OT, TCU
Scouting Report:
Has a confounding prospect profile that is typical of most of the offensive linemen coming into the NFL lately- shows signs of good technique, balance, hand usage, bend, etc., but is wildly inconsistent. This pattern has much more to do with the offensive systems and the type of coaching they are receiving, as it doesn’t match what is expected of them in the next level. However, he showed well during the Senior Bowl, and if teams decide that circumstance is the reason that his tape is what it is, he could move into middle, even upper rounds. He has a big frame, but needs to add more quality bulk, but his athleticism and technique have shown enough to get the attention of scouts.
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znModeratorCarter is now gone.
(23) Harold Landry – Edge – Boston College – 6′-3″ 252 lbs. – Played DE in college. Will be a stand up OLB in a 34. A speed to power converter that gets to the QB. Can get stronger against the run.(32) Arden Key – Edge – LSU – 6′-6″ 238 lbs. – Prototype pass rushing 3-4 edge. Dominated 2016. Injuries and off the field concerns make him next to impossible to rank for a hack like me.
(47) Lorenzo Carter – Edge – Georgia – 6′-5″ 250 lbs. – Warmed up to him after seeing more. Long and fluid. Just tarting to live up to his potential. Can get bigger and stronger. Can set an edge against the run. More athletic and loose framed then some of the other edge defenders.(54) Dorance Armstrong Jr. – Edge – Kansas – 6′-4″ 246 lbs. – Long, lean with a natural bend and a quick first step to help him get the edge. Will need to get stronger and develop more pass rush moves.
(66) Kemoko Turay- Edge – Rutgers – 6′-5″ 253 lbs. – Didn’t notice him until Senior Bowl. A speed to power edge rusher that makes plays all over. Shoulder injury concerns.(67) Uchenna Nwosu – Edge – USC – 6′-2″ 251 lbs. – Pass rush specialist that could grow into a full time edge backer. Smooth athlete needs to get stronger.(75) Josh Sweat – Edge – FSU – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – Size/speed/ athlete that has tons of upside, so there’s some projection with him. Can set an edge, needs to get more consistant.
(97) Ogbonnia Okoronkwo – Edge - Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 253 lbs. – A tad short, but explosive and makes plays. Takes a variety of paths to the QB but is too stiff to dip and rip to get the edge.
(105) Jeff Holland – Edge – Auburn – 6′-1″ 249 lbs. – Another tad short edge rusher that is relentless and tough. Can anchor against the run. Good hand fighter. Stiff, with little bend to get the edge.
znModeratorDoes Snead still do that thing where he picks his teeth with the edge of a playing card while talking to people?
znModeratorChargers took Nwosu.
Colts took Turay.
So edge as of now:
(23) Harold Landry – Edge – Boston College – 6′-3″ 252 lbs. – Played DE in college. Will be a stand up OLB in a 34. A speed to power converter that gets to the QB. Can get stronger against the run.(32) Arden Key – Edge – LSU – 6′-6″ 238 lbs. – Prototype pass rushing 3-4 edge. Dominated 2016. Injuries and off the field concerns make him next to impossible to rank for a hack like me.
(47) Lorenzo Carter – Edge – Georgia – 6′-5″ 250 lbs. – Warmed up to him after seeing more. Long and fluid. Just tarting to live up to his potential. Can get bigger and stronger. Can set an edge against the run. More athletic and loose framed then some of the other edge defenders.
(54) Dorance Armstrong Jr. – Edge – Kansas – 6′-4″ 246 lbs. – Long, lean with a natural bend and a quick first step to help him get the edge. Will need to get stronger and develop more pass rush moves.
(66) Kemoko Turay- Edge – Rutgers – 6′-5″ 253 lbs. – Didn’t notice him until Senior Bowl. A speed to power edge rusher that makes plays all over. Shoulder injury concerns.(67) Uchenna Nwosu – Edge – USC – 6′-2″ 251 lbs. – Pass rush specialist that could grow into a full time edge backer. Smooth athlete needs to get stronger.(75) Josh Sweat – Edge – FSU – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – Size/speed/ athlete that has tons of upside, so there’s some projection with him. Can set an edge, needs to get more consistant.
(97) Ogbonnia Okoronkwo – Edge - Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 253 lbs. – A tad short, but explosive and makes plays. Takes a variety of paths to the QB but is too stiff to dip and rip to get the edge.
(105) Jeff Holland – Edge – Auburn – 6′-1″ 249 lbs. – Another tad short edge rusher that is relentless and tough. Can anchor against the run. Good hand fighter. Stiff, with little bend to get the edge.
znModeratorDeadpool sez:
2018 Position Rankings
Edge:
Good class, great depth, but the value is in the 3rd thru the 6th, 7th rounds. I would certainly wait until then to draft one. The # in the parenthesis is the overall rank of the player in regards to the big board.
Key is the real wildcard here. His off field stuff no one knows the truth about except the teams that checked him out, plus his 4.9 40 at his proday was dubious. But when he was in shape and focused, his 2016 was pretty special.
(23) Harold Landry – Edge – Boston College – 6′-3″ 252 lbs. – Played DE in college. Will be a stand up OLB in a 34. A speed to power converter that gets to the QB. Can get stronger against the run.
(32) Arden Key – Edge – LSU – 6′-6″ 238 lbs. – Prototype pass rushing 3-4 edge. Dominated 2016. Injuries and off the field concerns make him next to impossible to rank for a hack like me.
(47) Lorenzo Carter – Edge – Georgia – 6′-5″ 250 lbs. – Warmed up to him after seeing more. Long and fluid. Just tarting to live up to his potential. Can get bigger and stronger. Can set an edge against the run. More athletic and loose framed then some of the other edge defenders.
(54) Dorance Armstrong Jr. – Edge – Kansas – 6′-4″ 246 lbs. – Long, lean with a natural bend and a quick first step to help him get the edge. Will need to get stronger and develop more pass rush moves.
(66) Kemoko Turay- Edge – Rutgers – 6′-5″ 253 lbs. – Didn’t notice him until Senior Bowl. A speed to power edge rusher that makes plays all over. Shoulder injury concerns.
(67) Uchenna Nwosu – Edge – USC – 6′-2″ 251 lbs. – Pass rush specialist that could grow into a full time edge backer. Smooth athlete needs to get stronger.
(75) Josh Sweat – Edge – FSU – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – Size/speed/ athlete that has tons of upside, so there’s some projection with him. Can set an edge, needs to get more consistant.
(97) Ogbonnia Okoronkwo – Edge - Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 253 lbs. – A tad short, but explosive and makes plays. Takes a variety of paths to the QB but is too stiff to dip and rip to get the edge.
(105) Jeff Holland – Edge – Auburn – 6′-1″ 249 lbs. – Another tad short edge rusher that is relentless and tough. Can anchor against the run. Good hand fighter. Stiff, with little bend to get the edge.
znModeratorTitans took Landry.
znModeratorMyles Simmons@MylesASimmons
GM Les Snead tells me there’s a 33% chance #LARams move up from No. 87, 33% chance they stay pat, and 33% chance they move back. So, as he put it, 66% chance they’ll trade the pick,
znModeratorDemoff on a topic that interests me. Rams draft process. This portion starts at about 8 mins in. Audio posted here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/les-snead-sean-mcvay-post-round-1-presser/#post-85427
Who controls the draft room? Is there discussion, debate?
KD: Every place is different. Usually GMs are in control . All the debating and arguing for the most part has gone on for the last 2-3 months and your coaches have had their say and the scouts have had their say and you have your board lined up for who you are going to take, you scenario and gameplan [before draft day]. Even now with no 1st round pick they’ve gone through 5 or 6 mock drafts and asked what would you do if this player is available v. this player. You really have those discussions leading up to the draft and then when you get to the draft you pretty much know your plan. The excitement comes from whether you’re going to trade up for a player or if you’re going to trade down. Usually if you’re 5 picks out you put 5 names on the board and say we’re going to take one of these 5 and you know you’re going to get one. The scary part is when you put 5 names on the board 10 picks out and you hope one of those 5 guys is there. About 4 or 5 picks away you usually bring in the coordinator and the position coach and get one last confirmation, so this is the guy you want and everyone’s on board with this. Usually just re-affirming what has been discussed for months. Usually it’s fairly orderly. Every now and then you get the player who falls or a fun trade on the clock but it’s probably more routine than you would ever imagine.
April 27, 2018 at 10:25 am in reply to: Rams speak, 4/26. Snead & McVay Post-Round 1 Presser; Demoff interview #85427
znModeratorKevin Demoff joins John Ireland and Brian Kamenetzky and shares what it's like being inside of an NFL draft room.
April 27, 2018 at 10:13 am in reply to: Rams speak, 4/26. Snead & McVay Post-Round 1 Presser; Demoff interview #85426
znModeratorThis article is mostly just the press conference typed up, so it goes here I s’pose.
Same thing.
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Rams have no regrets giving up No. 23 pick
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-nfl-draft-20180426-story.html%5B/quote%5D
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