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znModeratorHow will the @RamsNFL build off of last season's success?
Head coach Sean McVay joined @AndrewSiciliano and @wyche89!
đș: Inside Minicamp LIVE pic.twitter.com/MZcDHCVTKo
— NFL Network (@nflnetwork) June 12, 2018
znModerator.âŠ@RamsNFLâ© HC Sean McVay explains how RB âŠ@TG3IIâ© has really figured out to set up blocks on outside vs. inside zone schemes to âŠ@AndrewSicilianoâ© and me @nflnetwork. Love talking the game with McVay. Always learn something pic.twitter.com/6MjfrqovFF
— Steve Wyche (@wyche89) June 12, 2018
June 12, 2018 at 9:49 pm in reply to: Minicamp & post-minicamp "so how did they look" reports #87321
znModerator10 Observations from Day 1 of Mandatory Minicamp
Myles Simmons
1) With the beginning of minicamp on Tuesday, the Rams went through a walk-thru in the morning, then had regular practice in the afternoon following a lunch break. The club started with special teams drills before the rest of the squad went through a stretch prior to individual drills.
2) Itâs a pretty minor detail, but the Rams got new scoreboards for practice. Theyâre bigger and easier to see from any part of the field. Thereâs a large clock, a play clock, and segment section on the scoreboard to the left. And then an offensive tally and defensive tally to the right for compete periods.
3) The defense began individual drills with each position group â defensive line, linebackers, and secondary â going through takeaway stations. One station simulated strip-sacks, with the defensive players rushing a QB dummy, hitting the ball out, and recovering the fumble. Another practiced the proper technique to dive on the football. And the last simulated a defensive player ripping the ball out from an offensive ballcarrier.
4) As always, head coach Sean McVay was active on the practice field during individual drills, covering different receivers on certain routes â especially Robert Woods, Brandin Cooks, and Cooper Kupp. McVay also would ask for different routes from the various wide receivers in the group, with routes changing for the X, Z, and F positions.
5) Los Angeles began its 7-on-7 drills with the starters on offense going against the starters on defense. It was a move-the-ball period with the offense pushing the tempo and going no huddle. Quarterback Jared Goff had a few nice completions to wide receivers Brandin Cooks and Robert Woods. He also fit the ball in a tight window to tight ends Tyler Higbee and Gerald Everett.
6) During 7-on-7 with the second group of offense and defense, cornerback Troy Hill went up to make a nice pass deflection on a deep pass from Sean Mannion to wide receiver Mike Thomas. Hill and Thomas were down the middle of the field, with the corner effectively keeping up stride for stride until the ball arrived.
7) As McVay noted after practice, the Rams kept things a bit lighter for the first team offense and defense, with neither group going through 11-on-11 drills on Tuesday. The second group, however, did go through a full speed 11-on-11 period.
8) That period began with running back Malcolm Brown ripping off a nice run to the right side of the field. Brown has quietly had a productive offseason program, working as running back Todd Gurleyâs backup.
9) Wide receiver Fred Brown ended the 11-on-11 period by making a nice diving catch on the left side of the field from quarterback Brandon Allen. While the Rams have a talented receiving corps, Brown will have a chance to compete for a role on the 53-man roster during training camp.
10) Los Angeles ended Tuesdayâs session with Sam Ficken kicking field goals. As McVay has said during the offseason program, L.A. will continue to bring along kicker Greg Zuerlein slowly so as to not risk any setbacks.
znModeratorcameron DaSilva@camdasilva
If you have an issue with players skipping minicamp in June, donât. Get mad about something more serious, like putting ketchup on tacos.==
Aqib Talib's favorite Ram of all time is @EricDickerson pic.twitter.com/2FlphGeAPW
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) June 11, 2018
znModeratorHereâs video of Reggie Bush tearing his ACL after slipping on concrete at the Edward Jones Dome. Rams ordered to pay him $12.5M as a result. https://t.co/NJJnMnSRTP pic.twitter.com/ISwAZLOsxG
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) June 12, 2018
znModeratorSammy Watkins on joining Chiefs: I wanted a young QB I could 'grow with'
Jared Goff: sup? https://t.co/KIgENv0nMV pic.twitter.com/AfHlAixyba
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) June 12, 2018
znModeratorThanks for posting this JM.
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znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@DailyNewsVinny
Get the hard hats ready: The #Rams have canceled their last day of minicamp Thursday and will take a team trip to tour their new stadium site in Inglewood instead.Joe Curley@vcsjoecurley
Jared Goff opens his minicamp availability with âNew podium. Exciting.â â at California Lutheran UniversityAsked about the Atlanta playoff loss, Goff says âThereâs multiple plays in the game that Iâd like to have back… all things to learn from.â
Asked about the turnover in his position coaches, Goff responds âZac and Shane have been tremendous for us.â Zac Taylor and Shane Waldron are in first year as QB coach and pass game coordinator, respectively.
Given the chance to praise someone under the radar, McVay responds, âThe guys that youâve expected to play well have certainly done that.â Then he mentions Littleton, Ebukam… and Gerald Everett.
McVay goes through his tight end position. Gives equal time in praising Higbee, Everett and Hemingway. Coming off last yearâs injury, 84 working himself into a role this year.
Asked about Marcus Petersâ âPay the manâ comment from earlier in the offseason, McVay says he understands his players supporting each other. âWeâd love to have our guy 99 here.â
Asked whether the strong DL can help these new OLs, Kromer: “Any human needs confidence first. Can they do it correctly⊠on a bag, on a backup player who isnât really ready to play, but ultimately the test is can you block the guys that youâre going to have to block in games?”
âWhen itâs all said and done, thatâs Donald, thatâs Suh, itâs those type of players that we have to block. I think thatâs the measuring stick. I think weâll get a lot of opportunity during training camp of getting 1s on 2s and 1s on 1s.â
Asked about the OL draft class, Kromer: âWe had a clear vision on what we were trying to get and it didnât matter if was 1st round or 7th round or free agent. We wanted… smart football players who could react and respond to defensive players. What we got were those three guys.â
“Theyâre doing a great job of learning, understanding why things are happening, really trying to master those techniques. But as far as an evaluation period, you canât evaluate the offensive line until… training camp, during preseason… when it really starts happening fast.â
Wondering what the offensive line can get out of non-contact offseason practices like OTAs? Kromer: âRight now, everything we do is schematics, technique and you donât have the physical nature of the plays and the games and the physical padded practices.”
Asked about returning all five starting offensive linemen, Kromer mentions how they were healthy through last season and credits the training staff. “That was a huge part of our success last year.â
Aaron Kromer on the adjustment to the new Rams offensive braintrust: â(Sean McVay) does a great job of involving everyone in the game plan, although he is the master of the game plan. He gets everybody involved, so itâs been a smooth transition.â
Kromer on if his role has shifted along with his title: “Obviously, as the offensive line coach, the schematics of the running schemes, the blocking techniques, what the running backs would be looking for, is usually on that person…
“… So I’ve always been heavily involved in the running game and pass protection… so its kind of a natural role.”
Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Aqib Talib, on how this Rams defense compares to Denver’s Super Bowl team: “Thatâs what you (media) do. I donât want to do everybodyâs job. Iâm going to let you do your comparison by week 7 or week 8. ⊠Youâve got to let us do some work first, so you have something to compare.”Sean McVay on Aaron Donald: “Heâs in a good place. Do we want him to be here? Yeah, weâd love to have Aaron here. But itâs kind of the same where itâs been. … Weâre in constant dialogue with Aaron and his group.”
Sean McVay said Aaron Donald told him last week that he wouldn’t attend minicamp. So that’s an $84,000 fine, although the Rams never collected last year’s $1.4-million camp fine.
Marcus Peters, on what makes Sean McVay special: “He’s a player. He’s smooth. He’s chill.”
Ryan Kartje@Ryan_Kartje
Jared Goff said he feels bad for other quarterbacks who have to face Marcus Peters and Aqib TalibShane Waldron, the Rams new passing game coordinator said Jared Goff has really taken “ownership of the offenseâ this offseason.
Shane Waldron on Everett: “Gerald has done a great job growing in Year 2. He has some dynamic ball skill
JB Long@JB_Long
Interesting quotation from 49ers VP Paraag Marathe, via @JohnMiddlekauff and @TheAthletic: “Whether you are talking about $20, or $22, or $27 or $30 million â itâs all just a rounding error. You either have (a QB) or you donât.âMyles Simmons@MylesASimmons
Goff on practicing against Talib/Peters: âIt raises the level of competition and the level of trying to be exact.â Margin of error is âso much smallerâ when youâre practicing against them. #LARamsMcVay mentions Cory Littleton and Samson Ebukam as a pair of young players who have impressed during the offseason program. #LARams
Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Rams ordered to pay Reggie Bush almost $12.5 million after in-game accident in 2015 in St. Louis. The Rams declined comment today in Thousand Oaks…
Itâs what youâve all been waiting for: a picture of the new practice scoreboard that Aaron Donald will see sometime in August. pic.twitter.com/W31PlZnxX6
— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) June 12, 2018
znModeratorKelly Excited About Personal Growth Throughout Offseason
Kristen Lago
Rookie running back John Kelly will be the first to tell you he has a big personality.
Whether on the field or off, Kelly can often be found joking around with his new teammates and running backs coach Skip Peete â always with a big smile on his face.
And in the six weeks since he was drafted by the Rams, that bright personality has served him well, helping to build a solid foundation throughout OTAs.
âIâve been able to learn at a nice tempo, so Iâm pretty excited,â Kelly said. âJust being able to come up here and bond with some of my teammates, build a good relationship with the coaches and everybody in the building. Itâs been a good ride so far.â
But Kelly, like many other first-year players, has also experienced his share of challenges. In just a few months, the Tennessee product has undergone several big life changes â moving to the West Coast and beginning a full-time career among them.
While the most difficult aspect for Kelly has admittedly been learning the offensive system at such a quick pace, the process has been made easier by the veterans in his room.
âTodd Gurley, Malcolm Brown, and Justin Davis have all been pretty helpful,â Kelly explained. âIf we make a mistake out here, they are making sure to help us on the corrections as soon as possible. Weâve got a pretty good running backs room, so Iâm excited to see what the year got for us.â
The group has also helped Kelly with one of the lesser acknowledged aspects of being an NFL rookie â acting as a professional.
âI think Iâm the youngest guy in our class [and] this is grown-man business, so Iâve got to mature for sure,â Kelly said. âWeâve got a bigger target on us than it was at first when we were in college. Weâre more under the
microscope being professional athletes, so Iâm definitely trying to make sure I stay along with that phase as well.â
And after his first month with the organization, Kelly feels as if he has been placed into the perfect environment. Not only does he believe the roster features âa nice blend of personalities,â but a head coach in Sean McVay who is very connected with the team as a whole.
âWith coach McVay being a younger guy, he can relate to us a lot more and we have a nice group of older guys whoâve been in this league for a long time as well,â Kelly said.
âI feel like we got a culture thatâs like no other,â he continued. âAs far as me being here and me taking visits to other places, I feel like coach McVay did a good job of developing a great culture here. Weâre all caring and loving on each other everyday, but weâre also competing everyday at practice.â
znModeratorVideo evidence of Andrew Luck throwing a football https://t.co/EkcTb4e2NO
— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) June 12, 2018
Another step closer. pic.twitter.com/1INrKyrhJu
— Indianapolis Colts (@Colts) June 12, 2018
June 12, 2018 at 9:20 am in reply to: Minicamp & post-minicamp "so how did they look" reports #87300
znModeratorAs Rams gear up for minicamp, Aaron Donald seems unlikely to suit up
GARY KLEIN
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-camp-20180611-story.html
Players paraded through the Ramsâ Thousand Oaks practice facility Monday, taping television and in-game stadium promos and posing for media-guide portraits.
Aaron Donald was not among them.
As the Rams prepare for the start of a mandatory minicamp Tuesday, all indications are that Donald, embroiled in a contract dispute that dates to 2017, will not attend.
Last year, after sitting out organized-team activities, the star defensive tackle attended the mandatory minicamp but did not participate in drills. By attending, he avoided slightly more than $80,000 in fines.
But this year, the financial penalty probably wonât factor into the decision for the reigning NFL defensive player of the year, a four-year veteran capable of resetting the market for players other than quarterbacks.
Donald, 27, is scheduled to earn about $6.9 million this season in the final year of his rookie contract.
Neither the Rams nor Donaldâs representatives have commented publicly about his desired salary figure or range. Donald, however, is thought to be seeking a deal that will pay him in excess of $20 million per season. That would not only make him the highest-paid defensive player in history, but would also put him in the company of highly compensated quarterbacks.
The Rams have leverage: If they donât eventually come to terms with Donald this season, they could put the franchise tag on him in each of the next two.
And if Donald does not report to training camp at least 30 days before the Sept. 10 season opener against the Oakland Raiders, he would lose the opportunity to accrue a year toward unrestricted free agency.
Coach Sean McVay and general manager Les Snead have said they were in communication with Donaldâs agents, but neither side has expressed publicly that they are close to working out a deal.
McVay said last week he would speak with Donald regarding the minicamp.
âI know weâll have an idea based on whether itâs âOK, Iâm not going to come until thereâs a resolution,â or âI will be there,â â McVay said.
Donald is not the only marquee player staying away from an NFL minicamp because of a contract situation.
The Atlanta Falcons announced Monday that receiver Julio Jones will not participate. Oakland Raiders defensive end Khalil Mack, the 2016 NFL defensive player of the year, reportedly also will be absent.
Donaldâs participation in minicamp would help strengthen a remade Rams defense that features new defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh and cornerbacks Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib.
But his absence is not regarded as a major distraction for a team that features a majority of players who are familiar with McVayâs offense and defensive coordinator Wade Phillipsâ 3-4 scheme.
McVay said the minicamp would seek to âsomewhat mimic and emulateâ a training camp schedule, with walk-throughs in the morning and workouts in the afternoon.
âThe goal is to get to training camp healthy and ready to go,â McVay said.
During OTA workouts, McVay and players on offense said quarterback Jared Goff demonstrated confidence and growth as he prepared for his second season in McVayâs system.
Receiver Cooper Kupp said mastering the system during minicamp was the goal for the entire offense.
âCome training camp, weâre going to be right where we need to be to hit the ground running,â Kupp said, âAnd just continue that process all the way up to [the season opener at] Oakland that first week.â
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znModeratorWV, what did you get out of the West Virginia one?
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znModeratormikejurecki@mikejurecki
Still think Donald shows up tomorrow to wave his $80K fine? Normally those fines alway go away when a deal is announced at a later date.Vincent Bonsignore@DailyNewsVinny
Looking bleak on that frontTurfShowTimes@TurfShowTimes
Looking bleak on showing up or getting a deal done overall?Vincent Bonsignore@DailyNewsVinny
Showing up
znModeratorI still havent figured out how the Rams let Jerome Bettis go. I mean tell me âthatâ wasnt some sort of conspiracy.
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vYeah there’s a whole long string of things like that. Dickerson. Bettis. Warner. Tavon.
And when have the Rams ever traded FOR anyone? Yeah sure there’s Everett, Faulk, Williams, Goff, Talib, Peters, Cooks…but other than that?
znModeratorAction camera.
Action @NdamukongSuh.đ„đ„đ„ #RamsMediaDay pic.twitter.com/nT3Pv8h3MG
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) June 11, 2018
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You might see Ndamukong Suh.
But anyone who really follows the Rams beat just sees the uniform.
Throwback. https://t.co/E0McNWtCtl— Lindsey Thiry (@LindseyThiry) June 11, 2018
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It looks like the Los Angeles Rams went with their throwbacks on media day. đđŒ pic.twitter.com/AFGyIu9MQl
— Arash Markazi (@ArashMarkazi) June 11, 2018
znModeratorRams DL Aaron Donald was not on site in Thousand Oaks for media-guide photos and to tape network television and in-game stadium promos. He is not expected to attend mandatory minicamp that starts Tuesday.
— Gary Klein (@LATimesklein) June 11, 2018
znModeratorI understood what to look for when someone was going to try and talk about the physics such as why the melting point of UL rated steel mattered and why it wasnât a function of the melting point (which the fire even with a âflueingâ effect didnât get hot enough to melt the steel), but rather the point at which steel loses a certain percent of its tensile strength.
June 11, 2018 at 5:42 pm in reply to: Top 100: Whitworth, Peters, Suh, Talib, Goff, Gurley, Donald #87286
znModeratorfrom Prisco’s Top 100 NFL Players of 2018
Who are the NFL’s best players?
Who is the best quarterback? Top pass rusher? Receiver?
The debate is settled with my 2018 list of Top 100 NFL players, a list that looks back at the 2017 season, but also ahead to 2018.…
3 Aaron Donald
LOS ANGELES RAMS DE
The reigning Defensive Player of the Year is a force on the inside and should be even better this year with more help next to him in Ndamukong Suh. The Rams need to make him the highest-paid defensive player in the league.12 Todd Gurley
LOS ANGELES RAMS RB
He was special in 2017, putting up big numbers running it and catching it out of the backfield. He should again be a legitimate MVP candidate.51 Ndamukong Suh
LOS ANGELES RAMS DT
He never lived up to the money in Miami, but he was still a heck of a player on their line. Now he gets to play next to Aaron Donald, which might make him even better.59 Marcus Peters
LOS ANGELES RAMS CB
He plays a cocky brand of corner, but he usually backs it up. A change of scenery will be good for him.69 Aqib Talib
LOS ANGELES RAMS DB
This 32-year-old showed last season he still has the tools to be an outstanding cover player. He will be a nice fit with the Rams.75 Andrew Whitworth
LOS ANGELES RAMS T
In his first season with the Rams, he helped steady a line that was in need of it. He continues to be one of the best in the league.97 Jared Goff
LOS ANGELES RAMS QB
After a slow start in his rookie season, he really came on under Sean McVay last year in his second. He will be much higher up this list next year.
znModeratorRemember, the NFL has restrictions on the amount of time coaches can spend with their players.. Not enough time to develop guys w/o those skills already in place.. Young WRs need to spend more time working on craft instead of speed and 40 times. Do cone drills all day.. https://t.co/H3i4TQeZYJ
— Bucky Brooks (@BuckyBrooks) June 11, 2018
znModeratorBREAKING: I will not be attending minicamp this week. For any team.
So far that's me, Earl Thomas, & Julio Jones.
Who else is with us?
— Ross Tucker (@RossTuckerNFL) June 11, 2018
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A deal for DT @AaronDonald97 and the @RamsNFL wonât be done by the time mini-camp starts. So, is that a big deal? @nflnetwork pic.twitter.com/fIsqJgV7jU
— Steve Wyche (@wyche89) June 11, 2018
znModeratorhind the scenes, Trump astonished Nancy Pelosi, the Democratâs leader in the House of Representatives, by approving every single social program that she asked of him.
This does not account for all the cuts, which are deep and widespread.
znModeratorfrom Carson Wentz heads NFL’s top players from 2016 draft right now
David Carr
#6: Jared Goff
Goff’s progression over his first two seasons has made it easy to put him on this list. He was excellent last year — when working with first-year head coach Sean McVay — and might be even better in 2018. Los Angeles’ daunting defense, which added Aqib Talib, Marcus Peters and Ndamukong Suh in the offseason, should give Goff and the offense even more opportunities to shine.
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note: the 1st 5 on this list are Wentz, Ramsey, Tyreek Hill, Elliott, and Michael Thomas.
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June 11, 2018 at 6:30 am in reply to: informal poll: go ahead & guess…if healthy do the Rams have a top 5 offense? #87268
znModeratorthe reasons being i only see goff and kupp getting better. and cooks is totally an upgrade over watkins.
my only real worry is the tight end position
If TE is a worry, seems to me they can back-seat it. They will have the WRs and the RB. Not saying they are equivalent to the GSOT WRs and RB, but, the GSOT didn’t have TEs either.
My main things are OL health, and Goff & co. in clutch situations. Sometimes when I bring up clutch situations, some people say, well I would rather have a team that just outscores the opposition from the get-go. I think the NFC is too tough for that. Good teams play good teams and end up in tight games. I think that’s inevitable. And in 2017, they didn’t pull that off enough times. We know that just from watching but there’s also this stat: %Passes Completed, Late & Close. With that he was 45.3% which ranked 31st. To be fair that covers just 53 of his 477 passes but still. ( That stat is here btw: http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFC&rank=043&type=Passing&year= ).
znModeratorMy understanding is that study was not peer-reviewed. Yes? No?
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vWell, I don’t know if it is or not, but I also don’t think it’s important in a discussion like this. The P/M argument holds up to me. The only time peer-reviewing came up in the discussion was when a truther account was cited as peer-reviewed when it wasn’t. That was just a case of misreporting. Pointing that out wasn’t supposed to mean all accounts had to be peer-reviewed to be considered legit.
There are other arguments against the truthers, and others are making them here, but personally I tend to identify with the idea that the scientific and engineering and architect communities worldwide don’t resist the consensus account of what happened. What skepticism there is among the trained professionals etc. tends to be isolated, same as with scientific skepticism about climate change.
Plus there’s the fact that Alex Jones is on the side of the truthers and to me that’s a bad sign.
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znModeratorYeah that’s a good one.
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