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  • in reply to: Climate change: Learning to think like a geologist #58571
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    Thanks, though no need for religious fanaticism

    Period.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Anti-Trump protests ARE peaceful and organic. #58569
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    I’ve asked you this before, what does the Q+ mean?

    Queer/Questioning, and others.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
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    in reply to: Climate change: Learning to think like a geologist #58554
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    Please explain “the invisible man stuff” since I deal with facts not faith.

    I’m guessing that’s in reference to climate deniers also being religious fanatics, in that it doesn’t really matter because Jesus will return soon and it will all be moot.

    At least that’s what I’ve heard.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
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    in reply to: Goff & Fisher, 11/15 … vids & transcripts #58521
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    Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher – November 15, 2016

    (Opening remarks)
    “I sat down with both (QB) Case (Keenum) and (QB) Jared (Goff) this morning, and informed them of the move. First I want to say, Case was voted a captain when the preseason was over, and he’s still a captain. His leadership, and his enthusiasm, and his commitment, and everything – you can’t ask for anything more out of somebody. It’s the same thing that I shared with the team today, as far as Case’s job and what’s he’s done, the difficulties we’ve had offensively, which were not necessarily his fault, but it’s time. It’s time to move on. I felt in my heart – I was getting closer and closer over the last couple of weeks. I felt like this was the best time to go ahead and turn the keys over to Jared. We’re excited for him. He had a good day today. He’s into the plan, he’s really excited. The position is not easy to play, as we’ve seen around the league. A lot of good quarterbacks took their lumps last weekend, but we got confidence in him, as the offense does. We’ll get him prepared to play. The option was to wait until Sunday, but that’s not a good option. It’s not fair to you guys, it’s not fair to him. It’s out there, he’s our starter, we’re moving forward.

    “As far a (DE) Rob’s (Quinn) situation is concerned, he’s here. He’s doing well, we got good results back. It’ll be a day-to-day thing with Rob, as far as getting back on the field. That will be the case with a couple of other guys. I’ll have an injury report for you guys on Friday. I don’t want to say it’s a new era, it’s a new start, but in a lot of way, it is. Jared Goff is going to be under center this week, at home, against a really good defensive team in the Miami Dolphins. So, big challenge ahead.”

    (On his biggest concern regarding QB Jared Goff and this game)
    “I don’t go into games having concerns. I go into games having expectations, and the expectation is he’s going to run the offense. We’re not scaling the offense down. We’ve game planned. I’ve shared my decision with the staff early yesterday, so they would have time as the game plan continues to go in, and we’ve done so. I don’t have any concerns about Jared. I just have high expectations for him.”

    (On if this was a collaborative decision)
    “No, they’re all behind me as far as decisions are concerned. It was my decision. I did inform (Owner/Chairman) Stan (Kroenke) for obvious reasons. I told him this is here I wanted to go, and the direction I wanted to go, and we’re going that way. It’s an exciting time right now. The record aside, we’re expecting him to play well and win games for us.”

    (On what ultimately swayed him in making the decision)
    “It was just Jared’s progress, and the progression week, after week, after week. Preparing to be a two, preparing to be a play away from going in. When he got the reps over the last three or four weeks, they were right, they were good, they were good decisions, so it was time.”

    (On if starting him at home rather than on the road factor into his decision)
    “You can argue the point, well gosh, maybe he didn’t want to do it in New York, against that defense, but I don’t want to discount Miami’s defense, because they’re playing really well right now. Ask (Chargers QB) Philip Rivers, he had all he can handle a couple of days ago. No, it’s a timing thing. That’s what I’ve been speaking day, after day, after day, especially right here since we drafted him – It’s a timing thing. We’ll have a feel for it, and we got a feel for it. The decision is behind us now. Let’s look forward to watching him play.”

    (On what changed from yesterday’s press conference regarding Goff’s status)
    “The question that was asked of me was, is Jared number two, or is Case your starter. He was yesterday. He’s not today.”

    (On what changed between Sunday and this morning)
    “It was a progression. It wasn’t a spontaneous decision – it was a progression. It’s a gut feel. It’s not an easy thing, it’s a gut feel. It takes time, and we gave it time. It’s the right decision right now – looking forward to watching him play and backing him up. He’s going to do well. He’s going to have some moments, like all young quarterbacks do, but he’s going to do well.”

    (On whether QB Case Keenum will be the backup quarterback)
    “Case is number two – yes.”

    (On how Keenum took the news)
    “Case is a pro. He understands – doesn’t like it – but understands and appreciates his opportunity and is going to do everything he possibly can to help make Jared successful. His class – he’s a class act. ”

    (On QB Jared Goff’s reaction to being named the starter)
    “I’m ready to go. Let’s go win the game.”

    (On what Goff brings to the table on offense)
    “He hasn’t started an NFL game yet – it’s going to take some time. It’s going to take experience, snaps practice reps, game reps, and different situations. But he’s had an opportunity to observe things and that experience is extremely valuable. It’s hard for me to describe to all of you how that experience is, but it is valuable. We’ll see where it goes. But he’s tall, he can see, get rid of the ball, he understands the offense, and we got to help him, you know, we have to run the football – that’s going to help any quarterback. We have to do that. We showed signs of it last week and we got to continue with it.”

    (On whether they will stay committed to the decision to start Goff beyond this week)
    “Yeah, we’re committed to this.”

    (On whether he will stay committed to the decision to start Goff for the remainder of the season)
    “Yeah. We didn’t do what we did this offseason and trade for Jared, to come in and just spot-play him over the next five or six weeks. By no means – even though there’s people out there saying ‘well you’re doing it now because your playoff chances aren’t real good’ – well no, our playoff chances are still fine. We’re doing this for two reasons, one, I feel like this is the best decision. And two, he has a chance to help us win football games. Offensively our numbers are where they are. We’re hoping that he’s going to help us improve. I will caution everybody to evaluate him on this game. It’s unfair to evaluate a quarterback just on one games performance. But I will guarantee you this, he’s going to prepare and be ready to play.”

    (On whether the offense will be tweaked in any way with Goff as the starting quarterback, given his arm talent)
    “We don’t have to reduce anything and we talked as a staff last night about that. There are some things that we will expand because of the arm talent, you know, the stuff down the field. We have to block better up front and that includes in the run game and protection. We have to make plays down the field, we have to get the ball in the end zone when we have opportunities to help him, and defense has to play better. Again, it’s an exciting time for us. I’m excited to watch him play, I’m excited to watch him go through and finish up his first week of preparation as our starter.”

    (On whether having Goff as the starting quarterback will provide a spark within the team)
    “We’ve lost some really close games, that’s frustrating and we found a way to win last week in New York. We’ve been in games. We have a good football team – we just have to find a way to win it. We’re going to put the pressure right now on Jared to do so.”

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    Rams QB Jared Goff – November 15, 2016

    (On his initial reaction when he was told that he would be the starting quarterback)
    “I was excited, very excited. It’s been a long time, it feels like, since I’ve gotten out there and played. I’m excited to get back out there and play.”

    (On if this is the time he thought he would be named the starter)
    “I don’t know. It was whatever time they wanted to do it. This is the week they chose, I’m ready to go and I’m excited.”

    (On how much more ready he feels now than he did in the preseason or earlier in the regular season)
    “I saw a lot of stuff from the sidelines, as much as you can see during the games. I learned from a lot of the things (QB) Case (Keenum) did, good and bad. It’s been a long process, I guess, trying to pick up everything and get ready for it – I think I have and I think I’ve been ready for a little while. I feel good and I feel excited.”

    (On the challenges of going against the Miami defense)
    “They’ve won four in a row now, have a great defense, a great front seven, obviously, with the guys they have there, but their back half is good, too. They’re going to be a good challenge for us and we’re excited.”

    (On how he found out from Coach Fisher that he was going to be named the starter)
    “He sat me and Case down and just told us, just straight up. Again, I was excited. I’ll say it now, I can’t stress enough how awesome Case has been before this, in training camp, in OTAs, now this has happened after. On and off the field, I can’t stress enough how good of a teammate and how awesome he’s been with it. He told us both at the same time, (Keenum) handled it well and he’s been awesome.”

    (On how it feels to have a vote of confidence from the coaching staff)
    “I’ve been working hard to get to that point. I’m glad it’s finally come, glad they’ve given me that vote of confidence and the nod. I’m ready to go and I’m proving them right.”

    (On if Keenum gave him any advice regarding what to expect or what to do when taking over as the starter)
    “Yeah, he’s given advice all year though. I don’t think today changed anything or changed any way he’s treated me. He’s given me advice all year, I’m sure he’ll be very helpful this week and helpful on Sunday.”

    (On if he felt that this opportunity was building since the bye week and if it felt any different for him)
    “Just continued to come out here and do what I can do. I know stuff probably changed with their opinions and whatever it may be with the coaches. But every day I came out here and tried to get better and tried to improve. Once again, I’m very happy and excited that they’ve made the move. I’m excited and ready to go.”

    (On how he quells the anxiety and tries to stay even-keeled)
    “Anxiety is over, I’m good now. I’m confident and ready to go. Ready to play, ready to get back to playing football, back to doing what I love – my job – and hopefully start what will be a long career.”

    (On how frustrating it was to be on the sideline while the offense struggled to score touchdowns)
    “Not really, you try not to do that. I think Case did a great job with what he was doing. Of course, there were times, every time you’re not playing, you want to get out there and want to play. I wasn’t going to gripe about not playing. I was being supportive of Case and trying to be the best teammate I could be on the sidelines and not try to get frustrated or anything, let the process take its toll. It has now. Once again, I’m excited to get out there and ready to go.”

    (On his expectations for himself in this game and going forward)
    “I expect to do whatever it takes to win, hopefully you go out there and try to win every Sunday. Whatever it takes, if that’s a lot of touchdowns, a lot of yards, if that’s handing the ball off a lot – whatever it is, I want to win. I want to be the quarterback for this team for a long time.”

    (On how his teammates reacted to the news)
    “A lot of guys said, ‘Congrats, I’m happy for you and ready to go.’ Everyone was pretty positive about it.”

    (On some of the things he learned by sitting and watching his team or the opposing teams)
    “I learned a lot about how the league works, how Sundays work, how the practice week works, how you work in the classroom and everything in between I’ve learned. I’m thankful for that experience and thankful for everything that I’ve gathered over the last, however many weeks it’s been. But at the same time, I think it’s time and I think I’m ready, ready to move forward and play.”

    (On how he feels about the responsibility with everything that’s been invested in him)
    “I’m going to play as best I can and whatever happens, happens. I’m just going to go out there and work hard every day. Hopefully play well on Sundays, hopefully win and do the best I can – that’s all you can do. I feel confident in myself and I know my teammates feel confident in me. I’m going to go out there and hopefully play well and win.”

    (On if he’s extra motivated because the team is in the thick of the playoff chase)
    “Yeah, absolutely. There’s definitely a part of that, too, where you want to make a push towards the playoffs. We’re right there, right in the thick of it. We need to string a few together, we’ve got one and now it’s time to put two together.”

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Can the Goff Rams beat the Suh Dolphins? #58520
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    I really don’t think so, but I’m hopeful. The only thing I can think of that works in the Rams’ favor is the fact that the Dolphins’ defensive coordinator is a virtual unknown and this is his first gig as a DC at any level. But then I remember that our offensive coordinator is also a first-time coordinator. With a rookie QB. And no running game to speak of.

    This is Clash of the Titans-type stuff right here.
    Where legends are born.

    Rams 18
    Suhs 11

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Anti-Trump protests ARE peaceful and organic. #58518
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    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Robert Reich: The Democratic Party Needs To Clean House #58504
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    Those are the people making the videos.

    No sir. The propaganda films are, yes. But the random killings are from hand-held cameras and cell phones shot from crowds, and there are literally hundreds of them – maybe thousands. I can understand that you wouldn’t want to see them – because they are extremely barbaric – but it’s really the only way to understand what’s happening, and the only way to gain a full appreciation for what we’re up against. Throwing words at it like the left had (no offense) for all these years doesn’t help to illustrate it at all. Trump put a more graphic description to it, but that wasn’t even close to what a lot of us have already seen.

    And you just can’t kill everybody.

    Says who? John Wayne would.

    J/K. No, I think we’re in agreement. And it shouldn’t be our responsibility alone. We’ve trained enough people that they should now be able to train each other. And the Iraqis are doing what they should be doing in that regard right now in Mosul. We’re just lending strategic assistance via airstrikes and perimeter protection, and that’s the way it should be. And as we’re liberating those people, the first thing the men do is shave their beards, while the women tear off their face veils. The Islamic State had required both in areas they control, in accordance with their strict interpretation of Islam.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Goff will start Sunday vs Miami; Adam Schefter #58502
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    And just to build on the idea that they wanted Goff to be 100% ready to do all of those little things like calling protections & audibles, and reading coverages & defenses, etc…

    This kinda confirms it. You can’t do everything you wanna do when you reduce the playbook.
    That’s also unfair to the rest of the team who *can* execute all the plays (generally speaking).

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Goff will start Sunday vs Miami; Adam Schefter #58501
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    There are a lot of theories out there, but the one that makes the most sense to me is the one Fisher has been saying publicly, more or less. He wanted Goff to be ready. He wasn’t ready.

    And, sure, he told everyone Sunday and Monday there was no change, but any coach worth a nickle would say that. He wanted to talk to Keenum privately first, and Goff. Only an asshole would say to the media that he was switching QBs before he talked to the QBs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they thought Goff was ready before NY, and decided it was better to start him at home, and just waited for this moment. This idea that Stan or the fans or Les “got” to him, or he panicked and reversed course, or whatever, just is ridiculous. I think. This guy has coached for over two decades, and played in the spotlight since he was a kid. He knows the difference between the locker room and the media. I just do not buy any of these conspiracy theories at all.

    Fisher is starting Goff next week for one reason: he thinks Goff is ready to start.

    The rest of the chatter is manure.

    IMO.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: board reactions, JETS game #58498
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    Me personally? No. I don’t feel that way.

    I don’t believe in moral defeats.

    Haha. Nice.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Goff will start Sunday vs Miami; Adam Schefter #58497
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    Fisher can’t win here. If Goff sucks, fans will be jumping off the top of the stadium. If he’s great, they will want Fisher’s head for waiting so long to start him.

    True. He can’t win with the fans. And I suspect he already lost with them on the basis of their cumulative record over the last 4 1/2 years. But we already know he couldn’t care any less about what the fans think with regard to his decision-making. Being scrutinized as a Head Coach is part of the job description (unless you’re Belichick), and he knows that.

    They said from day one that they wanted Goff to be comfortable with the system, with reading defenses, with calling protections, and with calling audibles. IMO, he didn’t get close to mastering all of that until recently. He’s been running the scout team against our defense, and that’s the barometer. Play well against the Rams defense, and you get to play. It wasn’t long ago that reports surfaced of him throwing all kinds of picks and getting ‘virtual’ sacked in practice. He cleaned that up, and now he’s playing. Never really bought into any of the conspiracy theories about him being backup this whole time. They’ve been very transparent about it throughout the whole process. They wanted to protect him.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Robert Reich: The Democratic Party Needs To Clean House #58496
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    Which serves my point. It isn’t religion we are fighting.

    Yeah, I don’t know that I agree. With IS, it is religion we’re fighting. They’re not interested in diplomatic resolution. They want to establish a Caliphate and kill anyone who stands in their way. You really only need to watch some of the hundreds of videos online showing them drowning people, shooting them in the face so they can watch them plead for mercy with no jaw, burning people alive, wrapping them in explosive cord and blowing them to pieces, strapping explosives to children so they can blow up other Muslims who don’t agree with their ideology, etc., and they’re still inventing new and exciting ways to torture and kill people for entertainment and future propaganda (just like the Nazi’s). They’re recruiting for a holy war, not political reform (just like the Nazi’s). While it’s not the same ideology as the Nazi’s, it’s the same disease. And we can ill afford to take them lightly – you know, like a J.V. team. History has proven that you don’t let something like that fester and grow.

    That could be. I don’t know. But at the same time, our financial and military subsidization of them allows them to continue doing it. We have Israel by the balls, but we never squeeze them to encourage a two state solution, or any other solution.

    I don’t think a two state solution is even a remote possibility.
    “We want to wipe Israel off the face of the map.”

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Taibbi on Trump #58489
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    Not quite. We journalists made the same mistake the Republicans made, the same mistake the Democrats made. We were too sure of our own influence, too lazy to bother hearing things firsthand, and too in love with ourselves to imagine that so many people could hate and distrust us as much as they apparently do.

    It’s too late for any of us to fix this colossal misread and lapse in professional caution. Now all we can do is wait to see how much this failure of vision will cost the public we supposedly serve. Just like the politicians, our job was to listen, and we talked instead. Now America will do its own talking for a while. The world may never forgive us for not seeing this coming.

    Way too much text to get to the point (which, thankfully, came in the last coupla paragraphs).
    Well, Matt, here’s some solace. I’m sure the world will forgive Rolling Stone Magazine for being too self-serving.
    100% sure, in fact.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Robert Reich: The Democratic Party Needs To Clean House #58488
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    Yeah, I know Bin Laden’s reasoning. But we were cool when we armed Mujahideen groups to fight the Russians in Afghanistan. So we’re only evil when we’re not serving their interests. And this:

    3. US support of Israel and its illegal occupation and suppression in Palestinian areas.

    Ironic. Non-support of Israel by the United States would likely lead to an escalation of settlement building in the region and over the green line. We’re actually keeping them in check with our diplomatic influence and military aid.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Poem O the Day #58486
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    I grow carrots and I don’t get it.

    Symbolism. We’re all babycarrots.
    You, being a carrot farmer, are a cog in the industrial carrot complex.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Anti-Trump protests ARE peaceful and organic. #58484
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    Theres an element of racism among SOME trump supporters. A FACTION of Trump supporters.
    Not ALL Trump supporters. We dont know what the percentages are.

    We can guestimate. What would be a high number of overt racists? By that I mean, the kinds that go out and spray paint hate messages on churches. 20,000? That’s .03% of his supporters. If we’re trying to determine how many closet racists there are that support Trump, I think that would be a disingenuous endeavor. Racists are racists, and they can be found everywhere. I’ve already given several examples of high profile people who exhibited racial tendencies who are left-leaning.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Spoiled Americans want to flee what they created #58474
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    I don’t know the answers to any of those questions.

    I do know that dozens of countries are doing it successfully.

    Let’s go there and ask those questions.

    Can you drive, or should I call for an Uber?

    Seriously though, I do have a Canadian friend, and he says it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. He has dual-citizenship and comes to the US to get his health care. I can ask him to expand on that a little, though. The only thing he mentioned was it taking forever and a day to even get in to see a doctor. But I’m sure there’s more to it than that.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Climate change: Learning to think like a geologist #58473
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    Global cooling is the far greater threat to mankind.

    And zombies. Don’t forget the zombie apocalypse.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

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    That you call Noam Chomsky a low information pseudo-intellectual is…well…just wow.

    That’s just so counterfactual, I can’t even…

    The denial is strong with this one.

    Considering he just said that the Republican Party has become the most dangerous organization in world history, I have to question his mental faculties. More dangerous than the Nazi’s, or the Iranian Government, or North Korean Government, or Syrian Government, or the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, etc. The Republicans. They’re the most dangerous organization in *world history*. And before you say that’s hyperbole, it’s not. He owned it and gave reasons. Because, he says, many Republicans reject the theory of global warming. That’s the pinnacle of evil to him. Sure, he’s intelligent, but he’s also whacked.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Spoiled Americans want to flee what they created #58464
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    I can see removing the bloat from the current system can reduce costs, but we’re talking trillions of dollars. Sanders planned to fund it on the backs of the wealthy, but I don’t see that as being realistic. The cost is still largely going to fall on the middle class via significant tax increases. Don’t mistake me here, I do like the concept, but I don’t think anyone has really solved the logistics yet. Setting aside my cynicism that the Government could control their own spending as they set up and maintain their own administrative processes, are they going to cover everything? And if they don’t, and private insurers develop add-on plans, wouldn’t that take away the government’s leverage as it relates to keeping drug costs down if drug companies decide to cater only to the wealthy who can afford those add-on plans? Also, how do you guarantee physical access to health care if you reduce the price hospitals can charge down to fraction of what they’re charging now? Won’t multiple hospitals be forced to close as a result? Or is there a way to offset that by reducing their expenditures, which would mean, subsequently, reducing the cost of machines and equipment hospitals need to operate? How do you legislate the manufacturing and distribution costs of MRI machines, X-ray machines, oxygen chambers (i forget the technical name of those things), CT/PET scanners, surgical robots, etc.? It’s still a supply/demand business.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Robert Reich: The Democratic Party Needs To Clean House #58456
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    And I will just throw in…another way to fend them off is to stop abusing them with our foreign policies. Ya know. Invading Iraq was not really necessary.

    True, but their hatred of Christianity and Zionism, predates the Iraq war. They tried to bring down the WTT during the Clinton Administration, too, as you’re fully aware. But that aside, and as I’m also sure you’re fully aware, global-jihadism is a goal resulting from a distortion of their religion and a literal interpretation of the Qur’an. They take the worst parts of the Qur’an and distort them to interpret anyone who doesn’t worship Allah should be murdered – in a heinous manner. It would be like Christian fundamentalists using the Old Testament as their guiding principles (you know, like they used to).

    I agree with you that we should stop meddling in their business, but we’re way beyond diplomacy, and it’s far too late to remove ourselves from involvement. This is a global movement that targets multiple Nations, and with one objective. A Caliphate. Without delving too far into our ‘true’ objective of installing democracy in the middle east, it would be negligent to leave them alone now. Allowing that perversion of a religion to metastasize will further reap consequences we can ill afford.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Spoiled Americans want to flee what they created #58446
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    How many Trump supporters believe unions are bad in principle? How many oppose universal health care? How many think paid vacation is an outrageous idea that would bankrupt businesses, or make them flee? How many believe that increasing the minimum wage is bad?

    I’m pro-Union, but that’s because I spent 20 years in the IUEC, Local 71. But Florida was also a right-to-work State. I loved the Union, but slowly – over time – the benefits kept getting whittled down in favor of pay increases. Those union meetings used to drive me nuts. Nobody had the foresight to keep the benefit packages strong while foregoing a couple more dollars an hour. But anyway. I was, and still am, for it.

    Universal Health Care? I dunno. I fear staggering federal tax increases, for one, but I didn’t really fully understand Bernie’s plan as I was reading it. Was he proposing an individual legal right to free health care (an entitlement)? And if health care isn’t a federal legal entitlement, and funds had to be decided on every year, wouldn’t it continually be up against every other rival for budgetary appropriations?

    Paid vacations? I mean, I get those already. Are you talking about maternity leave and/or paternity leave?

    I’m fine with increasing the minimum wage too, but it is a killer for small business owners. We already see many businesses going to more part-time employee rotations in order to avoid paying benefits, but that’s probably another discussion altogether.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Robert Reich: The Democratic Party Needs To Clean House #58442
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    I wasn’t condescending to you. I was challenging you on your points. I thought those were fair game.

    Also, text is a tricky thing. I dunno if it was in the phrasing or how you chose to read what I wrote or what, but I can tell you that my tone wasn’t intended to be in the manner in which you received it.

    Maybe that preamble was needed after all. As I said before, don’t confuse my stridency for authority.

    Fair enough. And maybe I was being over-sensitive, because I’ve been defending my choices and my POV for a few days, across multiple platforms, and to all kinds of people (in person). I have a lot of respect for you, Mackey Mack, and for everyone on this board, quite honestly. You’re all very smart and scholarly. Like wv said, it’s difficult to keep our animosities in check when discussing politics, but I had/have high hopes for this board in particular to do just that. So, going forward, I’ll try not to read ‘tone’ into the discussion, and I’ll do my best to elucidate in the same manner.

    Now. Let me address a couple of you retorts.

    Re: Auditing the Fed:
    You and every single critic of the Fed on the right and left. Guess what? It’s NEVER, EVER, EVER going to happen.

    The problem there, is, that there weren’t enough critics on the left. In 2010, the GOP introduced Ron Paul’s Audit the Fed bill as a motion to recommit, but it failed by a vote of 229-198. All Republicans voted in favor of the measure with 23 Democrats crossing the aisle to vote with Republicans. 114 co-sponsors of HR 1207, all Democrats, jumped ship and voted against Audit the Fed. So I wouldn’t be so quick to say it will NEVER EVER EVER happen … now.

    Re: Sending abortion rights and legalized marijuana back to the States:
    States rights? really? All states rights really net in 2016 is the unequal application of the Constitution between the member states. Moreover, almost all of the most divisive issues have to do with religious based issues.

    Yes, really. It’s unconstitutional the way it is now. You went on to state your fears of religious opposition, but fear of the unknown doesn’t legitimize the fact that it’s currently unconstitutional. I don’t know what your ideology is, or what your political leaning area, but I’m more or less a constitutionalist. And while I failed to list it as one of the reasons I voted for Trump (because I was only verifying that I knew his policies), I’ll add now that it’s because he’ll appoint Constitutionalist(s) to the Supreme Court, along with the another 100 judicial nominees he’ll make to the lower Federal courts.

    Re: Destroying Islamic terrorists once and for all:
    That’s a nonsensical statement. That’s like saying you’d like to destroy racism once and for all.

    It’s not nonsensical, and that’s a poor comparison. While racism and islamic fundamentalism are both ideologies, one of them (terrorism) is a movement that can be squashed by taking it apart from the top down. Not unlike Naziism. Instead of allowing them to grow and flourish, I’d like to see our tremendous military might, led by brilliant military strategists and Generals, and along with a coalition of States, systematically destroy their leadership and quickly put splinter cells into graves. I have a unique perspective on this, because I’ve seen hundreds of murders on LiveLeak, and I read about the atrocities they commit all the time. I seek it out. It’s on the same level as gassing the Jews, but with less mercy. They murder gays, they murder jews, they murder Christians, they stone women to death, they use children as human grenades, and they use human beings as shields. If you don’t think we have the power to assert our will against them, then okay. But doing nothing – or not enough – is akin to sponsoring their actions. Again, just like the Nazi’s, we need to destroy this movement before it grows. And we need to keep putting that flame out every single time it tries to reignite.

    I’ll address more, later. Don’t want to make this TOO long.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Robert Reich: The Democratic Party Needs To Clean House #58366
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    See, I can see why people voted for Trump. He was the ONLY remaining candidate who actually spoke the words that the economy was rigged and politicians were liars.

    M’okay. Problem is that nothing he said about actual governance has any chance of actually happening. As in…NO CHANCE. I don’t have to “give him a chance” because I’m not in Congress. However, if I listen to Ryan and McConnell and look at who it looks like Trump will appoint to key positions… HOLY SHIT. He didn’t drain the swamp…he flooded it.

    I was asked if I tried to understand Trump’s positions, and if I actually knew what they were. That was condescending enough, but I let it slide. I was also told that none of his policies will work at the same time I was asked to verify that I knew what his policies even were. You just used a shit-ton more words to tell me the same thing, and then “M’okay’d” me dismissively because, and I quote, “I can see why people voted for Trump. He was the ONLY remaining candidate who actually spoke the words that the economy was rigged and politicians were liars.”

    That’s not why I voted for him. I don’t vote for sound-bytes. But thanks for thinking me that shallow. If he doesn’t get all of those things done, then I will have learned my lesson. But at least I will have given it a shot. In the process, I don’t need to be slapped on the hands with a ruler before he even takes office by people who can read tea leaves, though. I can tell you that much.

    So with that, I think I’m done talking politics. There’s no balance of intellect or morality here. There’s everyone, and then the few who aren’t everyone. You guys win. Scales are tipped in favor of your superiority. And I don’t deserve to be hopeful about the future, because that’s just delusional apparently. Also, there’s no point in debating against opinions based on speculation. How do you even have those conversations? “Nobody’s done anything before, so nobody will do anything in the future.” Oh. Okay. Got it. Case closed.

    I’m just gonna genuflect real quick and then find my way out. Because at this point, I can honestly see the benefit of surrounding yourself with like-minded people. It’s also nice to have hope and people like to think that they’re making good choices or that their opinions matter. This is just a constant reminder that I’m apparently a moron (and any number of “ists”). So, yeah. No thanks. And you know what the worst part is? Any of you could have seized the opportunity to teach me about your ideologies and use persuasion and tact to make me, at minimum, a sympathizer. Instead, laughs and condescension because … my opinions.

    “Okay, I laughed at this”
    “That’s a nonsensical statement.”

    Awesomesauce.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Robert Reich: The Democratic Party Needs To Clean House #58353
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    Conservatives don’t march. They get in line.

    Marching doesn’t do shit either. Right now it’s a tantrum parade.

    He’ll be held accountable by going through the process. Writing our Representatives, Congressmen and Senators to get our displeasure on record before the following elections. Think representatives want to lose the votes of their constituents? Holding someone accountable doesn’t mean we, personally, can make him do what we want by force. Nobody can accomplish that. You can only do what’s lawfully within your capabilities to do, so we’ll do that. You’re probably right that we won’t get out there with our Fuck Trump signs and piss and moan about broken promises and threaten revolution. And considering you just called all conservatives mindless robots, I guess we won’t do anything other than bend over and take it up the ass. That’s the caricature, right? Just get in line and accept your fate.

    I wonder how many times I’ll get insulted on this board for not being a progressive or liberal, while reading about how that’s not the way it’s done around here.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Climate change: Learning to think like a geologist #58346
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    There’s so much opinion on this from both sides that it’s hard to discern what’s real and what’s fiction sometimes. I do believe that the earth is going to cool and warm on its own without intervention from humans (because it has), but are you saying there are no negative effects on the atmosphere from things like atmospheric pollution associated with industrialization; or deforestation; or acid rain; or overpopulation exacting an increasing toll on the soils, forests, and air; or ozone layer deterioration from carbon emissions, etc.? None of that has any consequence? What if that were to increase 10 fold? Still no negative effects on the earth’s temps?

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Trump country: WV #58344
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    I submit to you, that that’s isolated. (Plus one is a sign at a protest and another is a attack graffiti painted on a church. The graffiti thing not being rare on the day of the election.)

    It’s not isolated. There were actual signs that called for the assassination of G.W.B during his campaign.
    Many of them.

    What about fire bombing of the NC GOP building? Or Jesse Jackson calling NYC residents “hymies”. Or anything Al Sharpton says. Or Farrakhan saying the white man is the black man’s mortal enemy? Or Jonathan Valania saying white people shouldn’t be allowed to vote? Or Biden saying you cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent, or that the GOP was gonna put people back in chains. Or Spike Lee’s disdain for interracial couples. Or Marion Barry Saying we gotta do something about these Asians coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops. Or when Bill Clinton said “A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee.” Or when Hillary called an aid a “fucking jew bastard.” Or when Obama said his grandmother was just a typical white woman.” Or Donald Sterling’s racist rants. Or Joseph Lowrey who says all whites are going to hell.

    The left and media don’t want to discuss any of that. The result is we can never have a legitimate conversation on race because of the double standard. You’re considered a racist if you even mention black people in any context. Or Mexicans. Or Syrians. That’s the main problem. The term racist is being abused, and it’s being used to manipulate. Everything from racist statements to mass shootings gets tossed into the “us” or “them” camp. And like we’re doing right now, if the person or people involved can be linked right or left, the other side gets bonus points. We all just need to cut it out. Stop fanning the flames of racism or bigotry and do something else, on a personal level, collectively, to squash it.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Trump country: WV #58336
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    I also submit to you, that the people in this country who tend toward ordinary racism, and/or homophobia, and/or islamaphobia…and we’re kind of known as a country for having sizeable portions of all 3…mostly voted for Trump.

    I wonder if the left would even use those words to describe the heartland of the United States were it nor for Hillary’s ‘deplorables’ speech. It’s all very cliche’ now.

    But that aside, Why do you suppose ‘sizeable portions’ of ‘those people’ are conservatives. Are you good with sanctuary cities, open borders, the emigration of Syrians to this Country with no vetting, ‘catch and release’ policy, or the practice of giving illegals the ability to vote in our Democratic Elections?

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: When is it time? #58332
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    I’d rather have Austin back there and have Cooper learn to be a receiver.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

    in reply to: Look to norway #58329
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    I wish people could be more succinct when they write articles.
    Virtually 100% of people in the US have ADD, after all.

    You have to be odd, to be number one.
    -- Dr Seuss

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