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I dunno why so many white men loathe Hillary,
but they are not alone. Lots of groups loathe Hillary.http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/the_people_who_hate_hillary_clinton_the_most.html
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…….“I think that Hillary Clinton is a sociopath, so I think that her main interest is in her pocketbook, and I think that’s obvious from looking at the Clinton Foundation,” says Uday Sachdeva, a 22-year-old Trump supporter from Georgia who is about to start medical school……Butcher says of Obama. “He believes the opposite of what I do on almost every issue.” All the same, he says, “If I met Barack Obama on the street, there’s a good chance I’d say he’s a decent guy. I don’t get that feeling from Hillary Clinton. I don’t feel like she’s a likable person at all. At all. I think she feels like she’s above the law, and she’s above us peasants.”
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….It could be that the reasons people give for disliking Clinton have changed simply because she herself has changed. She entered the White House as a brashly self-confident liberal. Early on, some of the president’s advisers sought to undermine her plans for health care reform because they were thought to be insufficiently business-friendly; in response, Carl Bernstein, one of her biographers, quotes her snapping at her husband, “You didn’t get elected to do Wall Street economics.” Then, after the epic repudiation of the 1994 midterms, in which Republicans won a House majority for the first time since 1952, she overcorrected—becoming too cautious, too compromising, too solicitous of entrenched interests. As she would say during her 2000 Senate campaign, “I now come from the school of small steps.”In other words, people hated Hillary Clinton for being one sort of person, and in response to that she became another sort of person, who people hated for different reasons. But this doesn’t explain why the emotional tenor of the hatred seems so consistent, even as the rationale for it has turned inside out. Perhaps that’s because anti-Hillary animus is only partly about what she does. It’s also driven by some ineffable quality of charisma, or the lack of it….
…see linkI disagree. A parent or grandparent does have skin in the game. For decades you make sacrifices and plans for your childrens benefit that go far beyond whatever a non-parent ever conceives.
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Well there are plenty of ‘parents’ who abuse and neglect their ‘skin in the game’.
And conversely there are plenty of non-parents who ‘love their neighbors’ and commit
there lives to doing social work and caring for other life forms, both human and animal, etc.So, personally, i dont buy the “parents” care more about the world
than nonparents. Its a mixed bag. Always has been.On the trump statement….I think Trump supporters will evaluate it as Trump being a bit humorous, shooting from the hip, just slamming Hillary, no big deal.
The pro-Hillary crowd will be all ‘outraged’…and the undecideds….will it matter to them?I dunno. My gut feeling is, George Will was right to point to the fact Americans dont elect ‘angry’ presidents. Now maybe things have changed in America, but it looks to me, like Hillary is the next President. We shall see.
Its all up the Undecideds-in-the-Swing-States. Noone else matters now.
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vFeelings have often, if not mostly always, trumped facts
in elections.Talking-feeling-monkeys.
Anyway, J.Oliver should give equal time to Hillary’s flaws.
crooked-narcissist-egomaniac-pro-corporate-Billionaire-Donald.
vs
Crooked-Neoliberal-pro-Corporate-empire-builder-hawk-Hillary.Whats a talking-feeling monkey
to do?w
vThe talking monkeys can begin by making the Donald list more realistically reflect the actual problems.
How about adding racist hyper-nationalist sexist lying demagogue who will appoint an anti-choice supreme court while lowering taxes on the upper brackets in an already inequality-mired economy.
For starters.
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No argument from me.But then, the Hillary list could be longer too
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vThe length of course is not as pertinent as what’s on it.
Yes Hillary represents the unenlightened coporatacratic status quo.
And..as paradoxical and ironic and dark humorish as it sounds, Trump represents a big regression from that. That will also still include that anyway.
So it;s like this.
A: We have 2 choices.
B: What’s the 1st choice.
A: Well we stay with the Roman empire and its hierarchical socio-economic system.
B: I see. What’s the 2nd choice.
A: The empire is overthrown and all its institutions destroyed by burnt earth hordes who practice human sacrifice and treat all outsiders as pagans to be tortured and slain.
B: Can I just join a monastery?
A: The hordes take particular delight in tormenting monasteries.
B: Hmm. Okay Let me think….===================
Well, I dunno. Maybe i think Hillary is a bit worse than you do,
and maybe I think trump is not quite as bad as you think he is.At any rate, i think the system that spawned both of them
seriously threatens all life on Earth.And now I shall eat linguini.
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vFeelings have often, if not mostly always, trumped facts
in elections.Talking-feeling-monkeys.
Anyway, J.Oliver should give equal time to Hillary’s flaws.
crooked-narcissist-egomaniac-pro-corporate-Billionaire-Donald.
vs
Crooked-Neoliberal-pro-Corporate-empire-builder-hawk-Hillary.Whats a talking-feeling monkey
to do?w
vThe talking monkeys can begin by making the Donald list more realistically reflect the actual problems.
How about adding racist hyper-nationalist sexist lying demagogue who will appoint an anti-choice supreme court while lowering taxes on the upper brackets in an already inequality-mired economy.
For starters.
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No argument from me.But then, the Hillary list could be longer too 🙂
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