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  • in reply to: Cambridge Analytica is the smoking gun #84378
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    a little more on the C.A. thing:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/21/mod-cambridge-analytica-parent-company-scl-group-list-x
    MoD granted ‘List X’ status to Cambridge Analytica parent company

    MPs call for investigation into concerns over SCL Group and its access to secret documents

    in reply to: Are we okay with Mannion as back-up QB? #84377
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    When a team is a playoff-caliber team, i always like a veteran backup QB.

    I’d like to see them sign George Blanda.

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    in reply to: Robey-Coleman has agreed to terms on a 3-year deal #84369
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    Why is his name Robey-Coleman?

    I dont trust hyphenated people, unless theyve got a damn good reason
    for being hyphenated.

    I dont trust semi-colon people either.

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    wiki:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-barrelled_name
    …British tradition

    A few British upper-class families have “triple-barrelled” surnames (e.g. Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe; Cave-Browne-Cave; Elliot-Murray-Kynynmound; Heathcote-Drummond-Willoughby; Smith-Dorrien-Smith; Vane-Tempest-Stewart). Not all of those with multiple names were of the nobility; landed gentry such as George Henry Lane-Fox Pitt-Rivers consolidated the estates and wealth of several families in their multiple names. These are sometimes created when one spouse has a double-barrelled name and the other has a single surname. Nowadays, such names are almost always abbreviated in everyday use to a single or double-barrelled version. There are even a few “quadruple-barrelled” surnames (e.g. Hepburn-Stuart-Forbes-Trefusis, Hovell-Thurlow-Cumming-Bruce, Montagu-Stuart-Wortley-Mackenzie, Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax, Stirling-Home-Drummond-Moray, and the Danish Krag-Juel-Vind-Frijs family). The surname of the extinct family of the Dukes of Buckingham and Chandos was the quintuple-barrelled Temple-Nugent-Brydges-Chandos-Grenville.

    Captain Leone Sextus Denys Oswolf Fraudatifilius Tollemache-Tollemache de Orellana Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache is sometimes quoted as the man with the most ever “barrels” in his surname (six), but in fact all but the last two of these (Tollemache-Tollemache) were forenames.

    Many double-barrelled names are written without a hyphen, which can cause confusion as to whether the surname is double-barrelled or not. Notable persons with unhyphenated double-barrelled names include politician David Lloyd George (born with Lloyd as a middle name, but self-transformed into a double-barrelled surname), the composer Ralph Vaughan Williams, astronomer Robert Hanbury Brown, actors Kristin Scott Thomas and Helena Bonham Carter (although she has said the hyphen is optional)[2] comedian Sacha Baron Cohen (however, his cousin Professor Simon Baron-Cohen opted for the hyphen) and Sylvia Llewelyn Davies.

    Iberian tradition…

    in reply to: Court on gerrymandering #84360
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    GOP response:http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/379359-pennsylvania-gop-moves-to-oust-judges-over-gerrymandering-decision
    Pennsylvania GOP moves to oust judges over gerrymandering decision

    in reply to: Cambridge Analytica is the smoking gun #84359
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    Greg Palast on the Psy-ops-propaganda thing. Fwiw

    GP:https://mailchi.mp/gregpalast/cambridge-analytica-aint-nuthin-look-out-for-i360?e=3c62b43786

    Cambridge Analytica Ain’t Nuthin:
    Look out for i360 and DataTrust
    By Greg Palast

    The story is that Cambridge Analytica, once directed by Steve Bannon, by shoplifting Facebook profiles to bend your brain, is some unique “bad apple” of the cyber world.

    That’s a dangerously narrow view. In fact, the dark art of dynamic psychometric manipulation in politics was not pioneered by Cambridge Analytica for Trump, but by i360 Themis, the operation founded by… no points for guessing… the Brothers Koch.

    Mark Swedlund, himself an expert in these tools, explained in film The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, that i360 dynamically tracks you on 1800 behaviors, or as Swedlund graphically puts it [see clip above],

    “They know the last time you downloaded porn and
    whether you ordered Chinese food before you voted.”

    Swedlund adds his expert conclusion: “I think that’s creepy.”

    The Koch operation and its competitor, DataTrust, use your credit card purchases, cable TV choices and other personal info — which is far more revealing about your inner life than the BS you put on your Facebook profile. Don’t trust DataTrust: This cyber-monster is operated by Karl Rove, “Bush’s Brain,” who is principally funded by Paul Singer, the far Right financier better known as The Vulture.

    Way too much is made of the importance of Cambridge Analytica stealing data through a phony app. If you’ve ever filled out an online survey, Swedlund told me, they’ve got you — legally.

    The second danger is to forget that the GOP has been using computer power to erase the voting rights of Black and Hispanic voters for years — by “caging,” “Crosscheck,” citizenship challenges based on last name (Garcia? Not American!!), the list goes on — a far more effective use of cyberpower than manipulating your behavior through Facebook ads.

    Just last week, Kris Kobach, Secretary of State of Kansas and Trump’s chief voting law advisor, defended his method of hunting alleged “aliens” on voter rolls against a legal challenge by the ALCU. Kobach’s expert, Jessie Richman, uses a computer algorithm that can locate “foreign” names on voter rolls. He identified, for example, one “Carlos Murguia” as a potential alien voter. Murguia is a Kansas-born judge who presides in a nearby courtroom.

    It would be a joke, except that Kobach’s “alien” hunt has blocked one in seven new (i.e. young) voters from registering in the state. If Kobach wins, it will, like his Crosscheck purge program and voter ID laws, almost certainly spread to other GOP controlled states. This could ultimately block one million new voters, exactly what Trump had in mind by pushing the alien-voter hysteria.
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    The Cambridge Analytica story was first reported by The Guardian and Observer in 2015. Did we listen? Did any US paper carry the story the British paper worked on for years? So, my first reaction reading this story was nostalgia — for the time when I was a reporter with The Guardian and Observer investigations team. We could spend a year digging deep into complex stories, working with crazy insiders. There, in 2000, I uncovered another cyber-crime: Using database matching to purge felons from Florida voter rolls. (None, in fact, were felons; most were Democrats.)

    I moved back to America, but found I had to give up any hope of doing true, deep investigative reports for newspapers in my own country. US papers will sometimes re-report Guardian news, but American media almost never initiates deep investigation. And THAT, fear of the cost, difficulty and risk in digging out the truth, is a greater threat to America than Steve Bannon.

    in reply to: Cambridge Analytica is the smoking gun #84342
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    PS — this is really the only part of that post that I was interested in: “…is that SCL, CA’s parent company used to work for MI6 (or be run by them) and this technology was used by them in god knows what elections around the world for the good of the empire…”
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    This is just another drop in the vast ocean-of-lies that make up “the West” now.

    This is my mantra, BT. (until i become obsessed with a different mantra 🙂 )

    Did you know that CA’s parent company worked for the brit-lie-factory? I didnt. Most people dont. What does it mean? I dunno. We dont get to know.

    In a land of lies, we dont get to know. What can we trust anymore? What information can we trust in the West? Or the East.

    Thats the situation one finds oneself in, in a factory-of-Lies.

    And the people are so dummed-down now (not their fault) by the factory-of-lies, that they have…no…clue. They are not ‘citizens’ in any meaningful sense.

    There are no citizens in a factory-of-lies.

    Just how i see it now. Not tryin to persuade anyone.
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    in reply to: Chris Carter on Case Keenum #84340
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    A lot a people turned off and / or were turned off because CK7 took a knee

    But what’s fucked up is that no one was or said that they were turned off becuase the NFL blacked balled a more than capable player . Not only a capable player but a quarterback

    A QB that won huge road playoff games including Carolina and freezing GB

    A QB that fell just short of a tremendous cut mebacknin the Super Bowl

    I couldn’t stand Kap as a player because I’m a Rams fan rooting against SF

    but he got royally screwed he should be playing he can play AB in the NFL

    BTW Mangini made a brief cameo in the Sopranos once….

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    Would you rather have Mannion or Kap as back up this year?

    I think I’d take Kap. Not sure, but i think i would. I trust McVay to know what to do with a strange player like Kap.

    I’m not sure about Mannion.

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    in reply to: Cambridge Analytica is the smoking gun #84339
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    For me, this isn’t about how much impact it had on the election, if any.
    It’s the immorality of it,
    the sleaziness,
    the likely illegality…

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    Well, I agree on the immorality. And i agree on the Sleaziness.

    As for the Illegality — In a Corporotacracy? BT, as you well know poisoning the entire biosphere is perfectly ‘legal’ here. Fracking is legal. Busting Unions is legal. Neoliberalism is legal. NAFTA is legal. Buying elections is legal. Incarcerating gazillions of people on drug charges is legal. Increasing global warming is legal. Imprisoning whistle-blowers is legal. Interfering in other nations elections is legal. Torturing people is legal. Blowing people to bits with drones is legal. Denying poor people adequate health care is legal. Empire is legal. The CIA is legal.
    Drenching people in propaganda is legal.

    I dont even know what ‘legal’ means in a Corporotacracy, BT.

    Carry on, Billy. I’m nuthin but dark-matter, i know 🙂

    You be the light.

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    in reply to: Cambridge Analytica is the smoking gun #84322
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    Well there’s several different issues there. Did CA ‘steal’ something from ‘facebook’? If they did why hasnt the FBI arrested someone? Is it ‘illegal’ to steal from facebook or is it a gray area?

    Secondly are you saying CA is a russian organization? Or that simply a russian is part of it?

    Btw, here is a post i read today on the lifeboat board. Its about CA as well. It was noted that CA has links to the British-CIA, not the Russian-CIA 🙂
    Fwiw.

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    There’s a lot of fuss about CA now, seemingly because someone thinks they can convince everyone that Brexit and/or Trump only happened due to computer voodoo, and we should therefore reverse them. While they’re obviously dodgy, I think this story has been overblown by hopeful remainers: eg CA worked for ted cruz first for ages before trump – didn’t do cruz much good – most of the data they had was related to cruz – they switched to trump late in the day, so the effect of any direct trump-related psychometry had would have been minimal i’d guess. Similarly with brexit – they were going to work for leave.eu if they got the main funding, but they didn’t so they didn’t apparently. Companies like CA are in the business of overstating the power of their algorithms seems to me.

    The real issue for me is that SCL, CA’s parent company used to work for MI6 (or be run by them) and this technology was used by them in god knows what elections around the world for the good of the empire – and no doubt still is being used by many agencies, private and otherwise – and probably to a much higher sophistication level than CA has. Not to mention the same technology as used by the major social media giants in-house as a matter of course in their own business models.

    (I read somewhere that the tories have apparently been in talks with CA for three months about working for them – can’t remeber where now)
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    in reply to: Chris Carter on Case Keenum #84320
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    Kap. Worth Watching. All three say Kap aint playin cause of the politix.

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    in reply to: Cambridge Analytica is the smoking gun #84315
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    I thought we were waaay beyond any doubt more than a year ago of Trump’s absolute guilt. There is just overwhelming evidence that he’s a crook on a massive scale, and that he sought and received major, illicit support from Russia (and other actors) to win the election. Since becoming president, the evidence is overwhelming that he’s covered this up, lied hundreds of times about it, and has engaged in serial obstruction of justice.

    And now comes this:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/cambridge-analytica-trump-russia-ties-2018-3

    Excerpt:

    The London-based data firm Cambridge Analytica was testing out slogans like “Drain the Swamp” and “Build the Wall” as early as 2014, the same year Russia launched its social media influence operation targeting the 2016 US election.

    Those slogans would later become the bedrock of Republican nominee Donald Trump’s platform while he campaigned for the presidency. He invoked them frequently at his rallies, and his supporters often chanted them.

    “We were testing all kinds of messages and all kinds of imagery, which included images of walls, people scaling walls,” Christopher Wylie, a former employee at Cambridge Analytica, told CNN. “We tested ‘drain the swamp’ … ideas of the deep state and the NSA watching you and the government is conspiring against you.”

    “And a lot of these narratives, which at the time would have seemed crazy for a mainstream candidate to run on, those were the things that we were finding that there were pockets of Americans who this really appealed to,” Wylie added.

    Steve Bannon, the former White House chief strategist and Trump campaign CEO, sat on the data firm’s board of directors, which is largely backed by Republican megadonor Robert Mercer.

    Wylie said Monday that Bannon’s push for the Trump campaign to endorse far-right positions on issues like immigration and law enforcement largely stemmed from Cambridge Analytica’s research on those topics.

    The Trump campaign hired Bannon in the summer of 2016. Around the same time, it also tapped Cambridge Analytica to manage its data operation.

    A Trump aide told Wired that the firm played a “key role” in identifying political donors that helped them raise $80 million in July 2016.

    In all my life, I have never seen a more obvious, slam-dunk case against a politian. And this latest revelation demonstrates yet again how mendacious he is and how he sold his voters a phony bill of goods. Social media/psych app testing, not his own beliefs, drove his campaign.

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    I dont get it BT. I dont see the illegality in any of that. (granted i havent studied on it)

    That analytics stuff just looks like the same ole political focus group crap that Obama, Clinton, and all the rest of them have used for a long time. Whats illegal about it?

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    in reply to: Public troubled by deep state #84314
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    Oh, I think they probably monitor American citizens to some degree or another but I don’t think there is a guy reporting into headquarters on what cereal I ate this morning(for the record it was Rice Krispies).

    I don’t believe in a so-called deep state conspiracy.

    I don’t believe in the the Illuminati. I don’t believe in the Trilateral Commission. I don’t believe in UFOs or Reptilian people.

    But this country is nuts.

    They DO believe these things. It’s what makes us unique in the world.

    Yes–other countries populations believe some of these things as well–but not close to the extent that we do.

    We make Alex Jones and Glen Beck millionaires.

    We are running away from the age of enlightenment as fast as we can. We have alternative facts, creationist science, end times prophets and a whole lot more.

    This is the country of PT Barnum.

    We seek out fantasy. It’s one of the reasons the settlers came here–for gold and religion.

    It’s who we are as a nation.

    I don’t see it changing anytime soon.

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    Well i believe in the ‘deep state’ but i dont believe in a ‘deep state conspiracy’.

    For me, deep state is almost a synonym for Corportocracy or Putocracy or Oligarchy. For me it has the same meaning as it has for Bill Moyers. I’ve posted his description before, so i wont do it again.

    Alex Jones and his wacko-fans have a different take on the ‘deep state’. It overlaps the Bill Moyers view some but Jones adds in a lot of paranoia and conspiracy stuff.

    So we got different people using the term differently. I dont think anyone will confuse Moyers with Alex Jones, though.

    PS — for me the ‘monitoring of citizens’ aspect of all this is the least important. I dont get all upset about the spying. I get upset about the destruction and annihilation of poor people, and the destruction of the biosphere..

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    in reply to: Suh to visit Rams? #84288
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    I prefer Suh to Bradford, fwiw. Just sayin.

    Not tryin to start a board war.

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    in reply to: Suh to visit Rams? #84285
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    I dont take any of this seriously because i think there’s zero chance they can afford Suh and Donald.

    But, having said that, i dont think “fit” would be a problem. I remember reading that Barron would not ‘fit’ in this defense, but he did fine. I just think good coaches alter the alignments to fit the great-player. Wade would just adapt the defense to make Suh fit. If that means more 4-3 so be it. Play Donald and Suh on the inside. Whatever. I’m not an X’s and O’s guy so i cant give details. But i do not believe Wade cant find a way to fit in a great d-lineman.

    What if Merlin was available? Bad ‘fit’ ? Nah.

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    in reply to: Are the rams gonna win the super bowl? #84259
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    We kept the offense, except for Watkins. We kept all of our kicking game and Cooper on Special Teams. We loaded up on CBs. We need DL and LBers.

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    Yeah but the 49ers still have Garrapolo,
    who beat the crap out of Chuck Norris
    from what i heard.

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    in reply to: Suh to visit Rams? #84258
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    I dont see how they could afford Suh and Donald. So Im not takin it seriously.

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    in reply to: "the essence of propaganda is repetition" #84250
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    From the Guardian
    link:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2018/mar/14/steve-bell-may-putin-spy-poisoning-cartoon

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    From Goebbels

    “…The archive description of the poster notes:

    In early 1935, the Nazis unleashed an anti-Bolshevik campaign which it initiated with a series of traveling exhibits on the dangers of world Communism. This poster comes from the exhibit in Karlsruhe, the capital city of the German state of Baden. But its imagery is found in almost all of the posters of this exhibit.

    Here Bolshevism is represented as a huge red spider, whose head is the familiar grinning skull topped with the red star. Sitting in the Soviet Union, the legs of the spider can still reach out to threaten the entire world.”

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    Article which i havent read:http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/guardian-rips-off-goebbels-uses-fascist-propaganda-for-better-anti-russian-smears.html#more

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    “….When mental processes are seen as transcending the body, society perceives people as “more independent and self-motivated than they truly are,” and that minimizes “the connections that bind us to each other and to the environment around us,” Jasanoff writes. As a result, he argues, we’re living in an age of self-absorption and self-centeredness, driven in part by our fascination with the brain…

    …But he does leave readers with a thought-provoking idea: “You are not only your brain.” Grapple with that, he contends, and we could move toward communities that are much more socially minded and accepting of our interconnectedness.

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    Yes.

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    in reply to: Florida school shooting #84234
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    Well we are up against this.

    (btw, when did the term “optics” become mandatory for every celebrity-pundit)

    in reply to: Sullivan signed two year deal #84211
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    There was a guy named Big Tex. And there were several Vikings fans. The only one I remember, though, is Mjollnir’s Wrath because he could actually communicate. Like SaintsAlive. They were welcome additions.

    CaliforniaTom. Big Tex. Oh, and Happy4LA.

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    Wasnt there a 49er fan that was a flamer?

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    in reply to: whale protects diver from shark? #84210
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    Well, i would prefer to think the Whale just ‘liked’ the diver.

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    in reply to: Walmart files patent for robot bees. #84205
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    Thanks to our noble benefactors, the fungicide, and the parasitic Varroa mite.

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    Well apparently the noble Varroa Mites are gonna be facing some adversity.

    …btw, i fear that if bees start vaccinating themselves against mites, they mite give themselves autism.

    in reply to: whale protects diver from shark? #84204
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    Well assuming the Whale actually thought about it and protected the diver,
    how do we account for that?

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    in reply to: Rams tried to sign Eifert #84202
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    i’d also kick the tires on eric ebron. he’s already getting some attention from indy, baltimore, carolina, and new england.

    he gets mixed reviews, but he’s been productive.

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    I dont think ive really liked any ram TE since…..Conwell.

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    in reply to: Sullivan signed two year deal #84200
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    And it was worth a 3/10 even as is.

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    Do you happen to remember the names of any of the old flamers we used to get on any of the old boards? I’ve gotten too old and forgetty to remember any of them.

    I guess i do remember one, though i am not sure flamer is quite the right descriptor for him: AirRams. He got a little scary.

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    in reply to: Walmart files patent for robot bees. #84189
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    PS. That author of the bee article has done some interesting articles:http://www.slate.com/authors.matt_miller_1.html

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    in reply to: Sullivan signed two year deal #84188
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    Jesus was his agent?

    Not sure I followed that one Z.

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    Gurley said “thanku LORD”.

    I’m guessing thats what Z was referring to.

    I’d give zooey a two out of ten on the rate the flamer
    chart for that one. It was hard to figure out. Lacked nuance as well.

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    in reply to: Walmart files patent for robot bees. #84187
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    “So even though bees were disappearing in alarming ways and at alarming rates, their population never actually saw a significant decline. The number of honeybee colonies peaked in 1989, at 3.5 million colonies; in 2008, two years after CCD was first characterized, that number dipped to 2.4 million, the worst year for honeybee populations in recorded history. Since their lowest point, honeybee populations in the U.S. have climbed at a modest pace and now stand at 2.7 million colonies…”
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    Well 2.7 still sounds pretty low compared to 3.5.

    At any rate, i dont pay much attention to combine numbers. Its just bees in underwear as far as I’m concerned. I only pay attention to how bees actually sting.

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    in reply to: "NRA, NRA: How many kids you kill today?" #84166
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    I understand the point of view expressed in the article. Unfortunately, I think it is a symptom of a sick society…

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    Well, yeah.

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    “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”
    — Jiddu Krishnamurti

    in reply to: "NRA, NRA: How many kids you kill today?" #84147
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    Interesting Gun article. A little different angle.

    Link:http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/43854-the-racist-origin-of-the-second-amendment-and-the-rise-of-black-gun-ownership

    The Racist Origin of the Second Amendment and the Rise of Black Gun Ownership
    Friday, March 16, 2018 By Zenobia Jeffries, YES! Magazine | Op-Ed

    Siwatu-Salama Ra, 26, will likely spend the next two years in a Michigan prison. In early February, a Wayne County jury found the six-months pregnant Black mother of a toddler guilty of felonious assault and felony firearm possession. She was sentenced last week.

    Outside her mother’s Detroit home last summer, she pulled a gun on a neighbor, who Ra says used her vehicle to hit her car with Ra’s 2-year-old daughter inside, and then tried to “run over” her and her mother. The firearm was not discharged, in fact, Ra alleged the gun was not even loaded. Her attorneys argued that her actions were in self-defense. An appeal is underway.

    Ra is a Concealed Pistol License holder. Her case — which centers on self-defense with a firearm in a Stand Your Ground state — is happening during a national debate over gun laws and the Second Amendment, which states: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    The debate over an individual’s right to bear arms was reignited since last month’s mass shooting at a high school in Parkland, Florida, where 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz took 17 lives, has been framed as yet another partisan conflict that has divided the country. Those on the right support the Second Amendment, and those on the left are calling for either its repeal, or tighter gun control. But the reality is more nuanced: some on the right support gun law reform, and some on the left support the Second Amendment.

    In particular, many people of color say they have good reason to be protective of their right to bear arms.

    NOTE: An ongoing court case against Yafeuh Balogun’s brother, Christopher Daniels, could become the first prosecution of someone tracked as a so-called “Black Identity Extremist” in the US. See Truthout’s coverage for more on that story.

    In Dallas, Texas, Yafeuh Balogun describes himself as being “on the left side of things” even though in 2008 he co-founded Guerrilla Mainframe, a political organization that supports the Second Amendment and the basic right to defend yourself. Guerrilla Mainframe is also a community organization that provides programs for food, clothing and shelter, health and wellness, and self-defense, which includes firearms safety and training. It is part of the Huey P. Newton Gun Club, a coalition of several organizations with a common goal of educating and arming African American communities to “defend themselves against police brutality and fratricide.”

    “I think a lot of people, especially African Americans, are really starting to wake up to the idea of self-defense, especially when we have a megalomanic like Donald Trump in office.”

    Balogun seems to be correct. Gun sales, and gun club memberships among African Americans have gone up since the election of Trump, whose campaign was backed by the National Rifle Association. However, gun sales in the overall population have gone down since the election.

    After the Parkland shooting, corporations such as Dick’s Sporting Goods, Kroger, and Walmart raised the minimum age for firearm sales from 18 to 21. The Florida Legislature also raised the state age for gun purchases to 21. But reform advocates don’t think that goes far enough. They’re calling for a ban of assault rifles, such as the AR-15, which has been a weapon of choice for mass shooters. Some are even calling for a repeal of the Second Amendment.

    Balogun doesn’t think banning assault weapons will stop the violence — mass shootings, or otherwise. “It is the culture, the political climate, [racism, capitalism, imperialism, sexism/genderism, and anti-immigrant policies] in America that creates the violence. America has always been a very violent place from its inception. So, banning assault weapons does not cure it.”

    And he may be right, according to historian Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz.

    Dunbar-Ortiz writes in her new book, Loaded: A Disarming of the Second Amendment, “While gun-rights proponents are hard-pressed to offer a legitimate reason for civilians to own assault weapons, they are used in a very small proportion of gun crimes. Most crimes involve ordinary handguns.”

    The type of gun, Dunbar-Ortiz asserts, is not the problem. The problem is that people want to interpret the Second Amendment as being about more than individual rights.

    Total gun deaths in the United States average around 37,000 a year, she writes, “with two-thirds of those deaths being suicide, leaving 12,000 homicides, a thousand of those at the hands of police.” Mass shootings, although horrible enough, account for only 2 percent of gun killings annually.

    In an interview, Dunbar-Ortiz explained that the right to have a gun comes from the Bill of Rights. “And the Bill of Rights is about individual rights,” which at the time it was written meant the rights of White men who needed guns to dominate slaves and Native Americans.

    There’s a misconception that the Second Amendment is about state’s rights and arming a military. It’s not, she says. The establishment of a standing army is in the Constitution. The establishment of formal militias, which became the modern-day National Guard, is in the body of the Constitution — it’s constitutional law, she adds. Collective rights are already in the Constitution.

    “So the Bill of Rights is the right for each individual to practice whatever religion they want, freedom of speech, and so forth. And to arm themselves.” There was a period in time, she said, when it was against the law for the new settlers not to carry a weapon.

    “But it doesn’t work for freedom movements,” said Dunbar-Ortiz. “It was created for domination of people of color — for slave patrols, and militias to kill Indians. So, it still has that element”: Now it is used to criminalize people of color, she said.

    Throughout history, gun control laws have been used against people of color as a tool to invite brutal state responses. Consider the Black Panthers who armed themselves, the Native Americans who fought in the Battle of Wounded Knee, Black Lives Matter protesters, the Standing Rock uprising.

    We’ve witnessed it more recently for individuals like Philando Castile, who was killed by a fearful police officer in 2016 for legally having a firearm during a traffic stop.

    In 2012, a Black Florida woman, Marissa Alexander, was sentenced to 20 years for firing a gun at her estranged husband who she said was attacking her. She had a permit for the gun. Since her release last year after serving five years, she has sided with Florida Republicans and become an advocate for gun ownership and stand-your-ground defenses.

    In fact, many Black people are against tighter gun laws because those laws, even more so than drug laws, continue to be used disproportionately to put them into the criminal system.

    According to the 2009 report Racial and Ethnic Disparities in the US Criminal Justice System, Black people are arrested for weapons crimes at a rate 4.4 times higher than White people. FBI data for 2016 shows weapons violations at the city, state, and federal level were used to arrest Black people 42 percent of the time, and White people 56 percent. Black people make up 13 percent of the population.

    Chanel Tillman of the Black Gun Owners Association in Jacksonville, Florida, said she could only imagine the horrors for people of color if gun laws were reformed.

    “If they can remove firearms like that from the masses, that basically…takes them away from us,” Tillman said. “And honestly, I think that’s the biggest part of it [for us]. You can guarantee that there will be some kind of loophole that will affect Black and Brown people more than anybody else.”

    Our motto is “Stay armed. Live free.” If you take our guns from us, she said, we are no longer free. “Then they are free to do whatever they want to us, and we have no way to protect ourselves.”

    Tillman co-founded the Jacksonville chapter last September, and it now has 32 members.

    She said she’s aware the origin of the Second Amendment was to arm White people against people of color and also understands Dunbar-Ortiz’s position that we’re not really “free” if we have to carry guns to protect us.

    But, she said, “why worry, if you know you have the ability to protect yourself? You don’t have to worry about it. You just have to be proactive and ready when the time comes.”

    And this is the message the national Black Gun Owners Association shares with its membership of 10,000 legal gun owners. Its one-year anniversary is in April.

    “Safety and protection of family, that’s the biggest thing. And making sure we’re aware of our rights.” Firearm safety and tactical training are part of what members receive, too, she said, and someone to look out for them.

    The association is not a political organization, she said, but exists for their community “to get an understanding of firearm safety and obtain proper training with people who look like them and share the same concerns as them for our people.”

    Gun ownership among Black people is about the same things as for White People, she says. “Protection of self, family and property. Gun ownership has always been taught as a pseudoscience for Blacks because of slavery and Jim Crow. We aren’t here to hurt anyone, but protecting our own will come first.”

    “We just want people like us to know there are gun advocate groups that are here for them,” she said. “The NRA comes out when things happen to White people, but when things happen to Black people you don’t hear from the NRA,” she said. “So, we’re hoping to bridge that gap. Somebody to stand for us when there’s a gun crime against one of us.”

    Meanwhile, Detroit attorney Desiree Ferguson, who is advising on the appeal for Siwatu-Salama Ra’s Second Amendment defense, expects an uphill battle.

    Appeals take a long time, and there’s a good probability that Ra could have served the two years by the time there’s a resolution. The hope, Ferguson said, lies with the governor’s office and a possible pardon or commutation. She is also hoping to get Ra released on bond pending the appeal “so that she can be with her family when she gives birth. And not have to be immediately severed from her newborn baby.”

    What is certain is that gun control and Second Amendment debates do not clearly line up as left-right issues, and many people of color are faced with uneasy support for a civil right that began as a way to oppress them.

    Author Dunbar-Ortiz says, if more people on the left understood the history of the Second Amendment and how it’s been used against people of color, she doubts they would support it.

    “They don’t need the Second Amendment to justify self-defense. That’s an international human right. That’s a basic human right.”
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    Zenobia Jeffries

    Zenobia Jeffries is the racial justice associate editor at YES! Magazine.
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