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  • in reply to: "how monsanto plants stories…" #89730
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    Monsanto is Satan

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    ….Did you just make a political post, blue-man?

    Gasp.

    I dont know what this means.

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    in reply to: Fox news on Manafort and Cohen #89715
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    MSNBC version

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    What about Guam? Have we done Guam?

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    in reply to: Raider game reactions #89588
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    Aaron Donald isnt signed yet.

    Thats my reaction to the game.

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    in reply to: 15 Titans are now eating vegan #89505
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    There’s little to fear from gluten unless you have celiac disease. But if you’ve found a diet you can be happy with then stick with it.

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    Allz i know is my ‘brain fog’ lifted after I quit gluten. And i dont even believe in the whole gluten thing. But i gave up sugar at the same time, so maybe that was it, i dunno. Some articles say some folks are just ‘sensitive’ to gluten even though they dont have celiac disease.

    Brady sold his soul to Satan. If you shaved his head u would see the 666.

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    thot this part was inter esting:

    “….Flaherty doesn’t believe in the old theory that packing on a few more pounds of muscle will help quarterbacks take the pounding.

    “It’s difficult for the young guys because, ‘The coaches want me at 230, my GM and everybody wants me at 235 because they want me to absorb hits,’ ” Flaherty said. “Well, the problem is the first two years, Marcus’s injuries have all been contact injuries, because he’s getting hit, he’s getting caught from behind. But if you’re fast enough and you’re agile enough, you’re not going to get hit.

    “Russell, he came in at 230. He’s not going to be as agile and fluid and as fast as he is when he’s 220. Russell has to think, ‘I’ve got to be light, I’ve got to be fast, I’ve got to be agile.’ ”….Flaherty, who also works with Philip Rivers, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, and most of the Arizona Cardinals”

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    Anyway actually that was a really interesting article I thought.

    Rams don’t do vegan, they do sushi.

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    Yeah, i think its interesting that fifteen NFL players on one team would go vegan. I mean i dont think thats ever happened before. Generally the NFL culture has always believed veganism would make players weaker. Ive also read about some NY Giants that have gone gluten free. Its interesting to me cause i have been experimenting with a gluten free, sugar-free diet. Fwiw.

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    Around the NFL, QBs are training and eating the Tom Brady way

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    Aaron Rodgers went almost-vegan in 2016, cutting dairy and most meats from his diet.

    Russell Wilson dropped 10 pounds this offseason, avoiding all yeast, mold, dairy, and gluten.

    And Marcus Mariota risked the ire of his coaches this summer by ignoring their recommendation of playing at 230 pounds and dropped his playing weight to 215-220.

    Thin is definitely in this season for NFL quarterbacks, and it’s not by accident. It’s a movement being led by Tom Brady, who dominated the league in his late 30s and is still going strong at 40, thanks to his vegetable-based diet and flexibility training over muscle mass.

    The rest of the league has noticed, and many quarterbacks are starting to follow Brady’s lead, cutting weight and working on flexibility to avoid injuries, improve recovery between games, and lengthen their careers.

    “I just think it’s so the thing right now because Tom’s doing it,” said 18-year NFL quarterback Matt Hasselbeck, now with ESPN. “You’ve got the quarterback of the Green Bay Packers announcing he gave up dairy. That’s a hard thing to do. But he did, and he had an amazing year last year.

    “And now you see guys around the league — whether it’s Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, Marcus Mariota, Andrew Luck — these guys are coming in lighter, and it’s not by accident. I think it’s because they’re seeing the success that Tom’s having and the longevity. He’s a trendsetter.”

    Brady’s mission, outside of winning another Super Bowl, is spreading the gospel of proper diet, flexibility training, and rest. For 99 percent of football fans, the only way to learn Brady’s secrets is to buy a TB12 cookbook for $200, or his recovery pajamas ($79.99 each for the shirt and shorts on Under Armour’s website).

    But NFL players get the education for free, and Brady has been more than happy to share his secrets with his fraternity members.

    “I’ve talked to a lot of different players,” Brady said after a recent Patriots practice. “I think a lot of people ask me when you get to be my age. I feel like I know what to do. I don’t wake up with pain. I come out and play a game and keep working on things that I want to improve at every year, and it’s been a lot of fun for me.

    “Hopefully I can share that with a lot of people. It’d be great to pass on that wisdom. I feel that’s part of my responsibility as a player to do that to other players who may want to seek the same thing, so it’s been a really enjoyable part of my career.”
    ‘If it works for Tom Brady . . .’

    Brady’s influence on teammates is obvious. Nearly every player in the Patriots locker room visits the TB12 facility at Patriot Place for massage work and stretching exercises with Brady’s body coach and business partner, Alex Guerrero.

    Julian Edelman and Danny Amendola are devoted followers of the TB12 regimen. Rob Gronkowski, the epitome of whey protein shakes and power lifting, is a recent convert, saying he has focused more on flexibility this season to try to avoid injury, and is now eating many of the TB12 prepared meals.

    “I look at him and he turns 40 tomorrow and he runs around like he’s younger than me,” Gronkowski said. “So it’s pretty obvious right there.”

    Quarterbacks Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett can often be seen working with Guerrero after practices. Safety Duron Harmon said at last year’s Super Bowl that he wears the performance pajamas.

    “I mean, if it works for Tom Brady . . . ” Harmon said.

    Around the league, Rodgers, 33, directly credits Brady with helping him realize the importance of a plant-based diet. Rodgers used to play at 230 pounds, but since cutting dairy and most meats from his diet, he has reported to Packers camp at 220 the past two years. Now Rodgers talks about playing until 40, just like Brady.

    “I can’t give up some of the nightshades, but I think Tom sets a good example, and we have been friends for a while and talk about a number of things,” Rodgers told People magazine earlier this year. “He has kind of set the standard for taking care of your body.”

    Brady is not exactly revolutionary in his approach. Drew Brees, who for years has shared the same offseason quarterback coach as Brady, has devoted himself to a similar diet, though he hasn’t tried to market it like Brady.

    Carson Palmer cut carbs out of his diet as he recovered from ACL surgery in 2015 and lost nearly 20 pounds. In the 1990s, Warren Moon cut meat out of his diet, focused his training on flexibility exercises, and went to a chiropractor twice a week. He dropped 5 pounds from his playing weight and played until he was 44 years old.

    “You just didn’t want to play heavy,” he said.
    Arizona’s Carson Palmer is one who found that lighter is better.

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    Arizona’s Carson Palmer is one who found that lighter is better.

    But Brady is the gold standard of today’s quarterbacks, the first to consistently dominate the NFL into his 40s. He’s also the most vocal about the importance of changing your diet and lifestyle. And if it’s working for Brady, many other NFL quarterbacks figure it can work for them, too.

    “They’re all looking to Tom; he’s the pinnacle,” said Ryan Flaherty, senior director of performance at Nike who works with Mariota, Wilson, and nearly half of the NFL’s starting quarterbacks each offseason.

    “He’s the guy that I think everybody wants to be, and even my young guys this year, [Mitchell] Trubisky and Deshaun Watson, both those guys are like, ‘Look, I want to be Tom Brady, but I want to be my own version of him.’ ”
    Changing your body

    Not everyone takes the diet to the extremes that Brady does, of course. Brady has said that his diet is 80 percent alkaline, 20 percent acidic, and that he eats a mostly-vegan diet that cuts out foods that cause inflammation, like tomatoes, peppers, mushrooms, and eggplants.

    When working with Mariota and Wilson this offseason, Flaherty emphasized a pescatarian diet replete with healthy fats — avocado, olive oil, fish — and eliminating carbs and sugar.

    The goal wasn’t just for Mariota and Wilson to get thinner but to improve their speed. Wilson’s 2016 season was hampered by an ankle injury in Week 1 and a knee injury in Week 3. Mariota’s first two NFL seasons ended with injury — a torn MCL against the Patriots in December 2015 and a broken fibula in December 2016.

    Flaherty doesn’t believe in the old theory that packing on a few more pounds of muscle will help quarterbacks take the pounding.

    “It’s difficult for the young guys because, ‘The coaches want me at 230, my GM and everybody wants me at 235 because they want me to absorb hits,’ ” Flaherty said. “Well, the problem is the first two years, Marcus’s injuries have all been contact injuries, because he’s getting hit, he’s getting caught from behind. But if you’re fast enough and you’re agile enough, you’re not going to get hit.

    “Russell, he came in at 230. He’s not going to be as agile and fluid and as fast as he is when he’s 220. Russell has to think, ‘I’ve got to be light, I’ve got to be fast, I’ve got to be agile.’ ”
    Eluding tacklers could help prolong the career of Seattle’s Russell Wilson.

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    Eluding tacklers could help prolong the career of Seattle’s Russell Wilson.

    Even rookies like Watson and Trubisky have taken notice of the benefits of a lean diet. It’s not a lesson Brady learned right away. When he entered the NFL, his favorite meal was a ham-and-cheese hoagie washed down with an orange soda.

    “Deshaun Watson was a great example,” Flaherty said. “He had no idea how to eat healthy. Fried food was a staple of his diet. Showing him, ‘Look, you want to be like Tom Brady? This is what Tom Brady eats, this is why he’s able to stay healthy for so long, this is something you need to emulate, you need to put into practice.’

    “You’re able to show him how he changes his diet, how he changes his body and how that makes him feel. He’s like, ‘Oh my gosh, I can’t believe I used to eat like that.’ ”

    Flaherty, who also works with Philip Rivers, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, and most of the Arizona Cardinals, said he’s grateful to have someone like Brady leading the charge about diet and flexibility.

    “I think it’s amazing having guys like Tom Brady who are so vocal about it, and how the proof is in the pudding,” Flaherty said. “He’s kind of an awesome example for the younger guys to see that you don’t have to eat a super high protein [diet], take Creatine, and eat high carbs to be 240 [pounds] in order to play for a long time.

    “It’s great for me because I’ve been preaching it for a long time, but it takes guys who are the best at what they do like Tom Brady for the guys to pay attention.”
    Ben Volin can be reached at ben.volin@globe.com.

    in reply to: operation mockingbird #89481
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    among other things, Jesse talks about the fact that MSNBC took his show away because he was against the Iraq war…

    in reply to: Monsanto loses jury trial #89458
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    The Republicans could end all this today if they would just pass a law against weeds, but they won’t because they are in the pocket of the herbicide industry. If we had Universal Crops Care for everybody, we wouldn’t have this problem.

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    How bad can the republicans be?

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    A list and description of the more toxic herbicides that glyphosate replaced and would come back if glyphosate went away…

    Link:http://www.crediblehulk.org/index.php/2015/06/02/about-those-more-caustic-herbicides-that-glyphosate-helped-replace-by-credible-hulk/

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    What i hear u saying is, Hillary is glyphosate, and Trump is Fluazifop.

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    in reply to: AD to sign soon? #89398
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    I’m going on a hunger strike until AD actually signs.

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    in reply to: Imagine a world with no official-narratives…. #89330
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    Do you know of Nina Illingworth?

    I follow her on twitter. She also has a blog. She’s prolific.

    I think you two would see eye to eye on just about everything.

    Link: http://www.ninaillingworth.com/

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    Hadnt heard of her. I shall peruse her blog. I like her book selections, fwiw.

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    “…The New Avengers Collection:

    Although I’m certainly as guilty as anyone of hoarding old books, there are multiple currently publishing authors whose outstanding work compels me to buy pretty much anything they put out, sight unseen. While it’s certainly important to draw from the past, the writers contained in this section are actively creating new works that are, and will remain, vitally relevant to our collective future – if you’re looking for the ideas that shape *my* ongoing understand of the world, these are the books and creators you need to be reading:

    No Is Not Enough: Resisting Trump’s Shock Politics & Winning the World We Need – Naomi Klein – Review

    The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism – Naomi Klein – Review

    This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. The Climate – Naomi Klein – Review

    Surveillance Valley: The Secret Military History of the Internet – Yasha Levine – Review

    Blackwater: Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army – Jeremy Scahill – Review

    Griftopia – Matt Taibbi – Review

    Insane Clown President: Dispatches from the 2016 Circus – Matt Taibbi – Review (sorta)

    Foundational Theorists Collection:

    As I’ve mentioned a few times on social media, I have been reading what many would regard as left wing thought (although, I myself might simply call it “the truth”) for many many years before I discovered writers like Klein and Taibbi. This section of my library is reserved for books and authors who taught me the foundations of social science, political theory and an unrelenting commitment to perceiving the world with my eyes wide open. Unfortunately, this section suffered the most extensive losses during my fateful move and I’ve struggled to adequately replace some of the best works I used to own that unquestionably belong here; expect this collection to grow extensively over time:

    The Fateful Triangle: Israel, the United States & the Palestinians (1984) – Noam Chomsky – Review

    Global Discontents: Conversations on the Rising Threats to Democracy – Noam Chomsky – Review

    Language and Politics – Noam Chomsky – Review

    Making the Future: Occupations, Interventions, Empire & Resistance – N. Chomsky – Review

    Manufacturing Consent – N. Chomsky, E. Herman – Review

    Who Rules the World? – Noam Chomsky – Review

    The Wretched of the Earth – Frantz Fanon – Review

    The Autobiography of Malcolm X – Alex Haley, Malcolm X – Review

    The Power Elite – C. W. Mills – Review

    Hope & Folly: United States & Unesco 1945-1985 – Preston, Herman, Schiller – Review

    The Mass Psychology of Fascism – Wilhelm Reich – Review

    Assata: An Autobiography – Assata Shakur – Review

    Culture and Imperialism – Edward W. Said – Review

    Humanism and Democratic Criticism – Edward W. Said – Review

    Orientalism – Edward W. Said – Review

    Race Matters – Cornel West – Review

    A People’s History of the United States – Howard Zinn – Review

    The Open Roads Collection:

    Simply parsed, this section is the best of the rest; works that have at once taught me extremely important information, theories and ideas, while simultaneously being presented from points of view that I don’t necessarily agree with. While critical reading is always important, there’s more than enough truth packed inside these works to justify cutting through the varied ideologically biased lenses that knowledge is presented through here:

    Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign – Jonathan Allen & Amie Parnes – Review

    The Origins of Totalitarianism – Hannah Arendt – Review

    Getting Ghost: Two Young Lives & the Struggle for the Soul of an American City – Luke Bergmann – Review

    Black Against Empire – Joshua Bloom, Waldo E. Martin Jr – Review

    Finite and Infinite Games: a Vision of Life as Play & Possibility – James P. Carse – Review

    Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq’s Green Zone – Rajiv Chandrasekaran – Review

    We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy – Ta-Nehisi Coates – Review

    The Prophet Outcast: Trotsky, 1929-1940 – Isaac Deutscher – Review

    Secrets of the Temple: How the Federal Reserve Runs the Country – W. Greider – Review

    The Best and the Brightest – David Halberstam – Review

    The Black Jacobins: T. L’Ouverture & the San Domingo Revolution – C.L.R. James – Review

    Either/Or: A Fragment of Life – Søren Kierkegaard – Review (sorta)

    (The) State and Revolution – V.I. Lenin – Review (sorta)

    Capital – Karl Marx – Review (sorta)

    Dark Money: the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right – Jane Mayer – Review

    The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade – Alfred W. McCoy – Review

    The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man – John Perkins – Review

    Joe Hill – Franklin Rosemont – Review

    The Rise & Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany – William L. Shirer – Review

    Globalization & Its Discontents Revisited – J. E. Stiglitz – Review (sorta)

    Revolution Betrayed: What Is the Soviet Union & Where Is It Going? – Leon Trotsky – Review

    Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, & the Cocaine Explosion – Gary Webb – Review

    The Last of the President’s Men – Bob Woodward – Review

    Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA, 1981-87 – Bob Woodward – Review

    The Thomson & Twain Collection:

    If I’m prepared to claim that intellectuals like Chomsky, Said and West nourished my developing mind, it’s only fair to point out that these writers in turn nourished my soul; discovering Mark Twain at an early age helped me survive my teens, while finding my way to Hunter S. Thompson’s work just as I was getting out of high school was certainly a factor in surviving my twenties. Although both authors specialize in “fictional” works, these books (for all their problems) contain underlying messages about politics, society and injustice that still resonate with our daily experiences in the “really real” world. Unfortunately, at the time of this writing I have been unable to replace any of the Twain collections lost during my move; perhaps over time as I reacquire them, I can also add other authors who portray fact through fiction – like Upton Sinclair:

    Fear & Loathing in America – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Fear & Loathing on the Campaign Trail ’72 – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Generation of Swine – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Hey Rube – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Kingdom of Fear – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Songs of the Doomed – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    The Great Shark Hunt: Strange Tales from a Strange Time – Hunter S. Thompson – Review

    Collected Tales, Sketches, Speeches & Essays 1852-90 – Mark Twain – Review

    Collected Tales, Sketches, Speeches & Essays 1891-1910 – Mark Twain – Review

    Caveat Emptor:

    As any avid collector of books already knows, it is very difficult to go through life without occasionally acquiring books you don’t particularly like, don’t personally agree with or simply haven’t had enough time to read. This problem is further magnified if, like myself, you’re a bit of a sucker for history hardcovers posted on deep discount at your local big box chain bookstore. Whether it’s a matter of taste, ideology or unfamiliarity, readers are urged to approach the books in this section with a healthy dose of skepticism and/or critical thought:

    Hacks: the Break-ins & Breakdowns that Put Donald Trump in the White House – Donna Brazile – Review

    Founders’ Son: A Life of Abraham Lincoln – Richard Brookhiser – Review

    The Gravest Show on Earth: America in the Age of AIDS – Elinor Burkett – Review

    Hard Choices (original HC) – Hillary Clinton – Review

    Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies – Jared Diamond – Review

    1917: Lenin, Wilson & the Birth of the New World Disorder – Arthur Herman – Review

    The Devil’s Diary: A. Rosenberg & Stolen Secrets of the 3rd Reich – D. Kinney, R.K. Wittman – Review

    Leningrad: Siege and Symphony – Brian Moynahan – Review

    East and West – Chris Patten – Review (sorta)

    Napoleon: A Life – Andrew Roberts – Review

    Proposed Roads to Freedom – Bertrand Russell – Review (sorta)

    Freedom Bound: Law, Labor, & Civic Identity in Colonizing English America – Christopher Tomlins – Review

    Operation Long Jump – Bill Yenne – Review

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    I dunno, Cappy. I’m sure the Monsanto lawyers presented their side of it to the Jury. I’m sure the jury heard a LOT of science.

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    Yeah, but that jury wasn’t comprised of people who are experts in this particular scientific field. Scientific studies are tricky. It takes a lot of experience to tell the good from the bad. I’m sure they heard a lot of evidence from both sides, presented as if the validity of the research was equivalent. But it wasn’t. So in the end it was based on layers from opposing sides quoting cherry-picked studies and ignoring any evidence that contradicted their positions and at the end of the day the jury picked the side they liked the best.

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    Well I’m just sayin if the plaintiff’s lawyers were cherry-picking evidence, Monsanto’s lawyers could have pointed that out with ‘their’ experts. etc.

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    I wonder if Bayer would have purchased Monsanto if they knew they would lose this suit?

    I’ll never shed a tear when a big corporation takes one on the chin, but glyphosate most likely didn’t cause Dewayne Johnson’s non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Nearly every credible study has found no link between glyphosate and cancer. The IARC’s classification of glyphosate as a Class 2a carcinogen (meaning it probably causes cancer in humans) was based on cherry-picked data and the exclusion of some more relevant studies. Coffee is also a Class 2a carcinogen, btw.

    Glyphosate isn’t the only chemical in Round-up. It also contains a surfactant that helps the glyphosate penetrate plant tissues more effectively. There aren’t a lot of studies to show if the surfactant is a carcinogen or not. More research is needed here. My guess is, when used correctly, Round-up isn’t carcinogenic. But the dose makes the poison. Any chemical (including water) becomes toxic at too high of a level.

    Of course, the Organic Industry sees this court ruling as a victory. The irony is that glyphosate is one of the least toxic pesticides available. It’s much less toxic than the ‘natural’ pesticides approved for organic farming like copper sulphate, rotenone, azidirachtin, pyrethrin, etc…

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    I dunno, Cappy. I’m sure the Monsanto lawyers presented their side of it to the Jury. I’m sure the jury heard a LOT of science.

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    Anybody got any opinions on whether it was a good idea to ban the loathesome-disgusting-weasel Alex Jones?

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    in reply to: Trump support is less enthusiastic #89186
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    Heartbreaking loss for Welder, but all in all it looks like actual Progressives are now a force in Dem-Politix and they are only gonna get stronger as the years go by.

    Some candles in the night-wind.

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    in reply to: Trump support is less enthusiastic #89183
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    A Palestinian won.

    in reply to: Trump support is less enthusiastic #89150
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    Well November 6, 2018 will be important i suppose.

    I think.

    I dunno.

    3 months away.

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    NY Times:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/21/us/politics/democratic-party-midterms.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

    There Is a Revolution on the Left. Democrats Are Bracing.

    Abdul El-Sayed, a liberal candidate for governor of Michigan, worked the crowd at a barbecue in Milford. He is part of a wave of young politicians redefining the left in the Democratic Party.CreditAnthony Lanzilote for The New York Times

    By Alexander Burns

    July 21, 2018

    DETROIT — For Rachel Conner, the 2018 election season has been a moment of revelation.

    A 27-year-old social worker, Ms. Conner voted for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 primaries, spurning the more liberal Bernie Sanders, whom many of her peers backed. But Ms. Conner changed course in this year’s campaign for governor, after concluding that Democrats could only win with more daring messages on issues like public health and immigration.

    And so on a recent Wednesday, she enlisted two other young women to volunteer for Abdul El-Sayed, a 33-year-old advocate of single-payer health care running an uphill race in Michigan to become the country’s first Muslim governor.

    “They need to wake up and pay attention to what people actually want,” Ms. Conner said of Democratic leaders. “There are so many progressive policies that have widespread support that mainstream Democrats are not picking up on, or putting that stuff down and saying, ‘That wouldn’t really work.’”

    Voters like Ms. Conner may not represent a controlling faction in the Democratic Party, at least not yet. But they are increasingly rattling primary elections around the country, and they promise to grow as a disruptive force in national elections as younger voters reject the traditional boundary lines of Democratic politics.

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    Energized to take on President Trump, these voters are also seeking to remake their own party as a ferocious — and ferociously liberal — opposition force. And many appear as focused on forcing progressive policies into the midterm debate as they are on defeating Republicans.

    The impact of these activists in the 2018 election has been limited but revealing: Only about a sixth of Democratic congressional nominees so far have a formal affiliation with one of several important insurgent groups. Fifty-three of the 305 candidates have been endorsed by the Justice Democrats, the Working Families Party, the Progressive Change Campaign and Our Revolution, organizations that have helped propel challenges to Democratic incumbents.

    But the voters who make up the ascending coalition on the left have had an outsize effect on the national political conversation, driving the Democrats’ internal policy debates and putting pressure on party leaders unseen in previous campaigns.

    Mark Brewer, a former longtime chairman of the Michigan Democratic Party, said “progressive energy” was rippling across the state. But Mr. Brewer, who backs Gretchen Whitmer, a former State Senate leader and the Democratic front-runner for governor, said Michigan Democrats were an ideologically diverse bunch and the party could not expect to win simply by running far to the left.

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    “There are a lot of moderate and even conservative Democrats in Michigan,” Mr. Brewer cautioned. “It’s always been a challenge for Democrats to hold that coalition together in the general election.”

    Progressive activists have already upended one major election in Michigan, derailing a former federal prosecutor, Pat Miles, who was running for attorney general with the support of organized labor, by endorsing another lawyer, Dana Nessel, who litigated against Michigan’s gay marriage ban, at a party convention.
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    Campaign volunteers for Mr. El-Sayed gathered for an organizing event at Always Brewing Coffee in Detroit.CreditAnthony Lanzilote for The New York Times

    In more solidly Democratic parts of the country, younger progressives have battered entrenched political leaders, ousting veteran state legislators in Pennsylvania and Maryland and rejecting, in upstate New York, a congressional candidate recruited by the national party.

    In Maryland, Democrats passed over several respected local officials to select Ben Jealous, a former N.A.A.C.P. president and an ally of Mr. Sanders who backs single-payer health care, as their nominee for governor. And in a climactic upset in New York last month, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year-old Democratic socialist, felled Representative Joseph Crowley, the fourth-ranking Democrat in the House.

    [Read about Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s debut on the national campaign stage in Kansas.]

    With about two months left in primary season, a handful of races remain where restive liberals could flout the Democratic establishment, demolishing archaic party machinery or pressuring Democrats in moderate areas to tack left. Beyond Mr. El-Sayed, there are also insurgents contesting primaries for governor in Florida and New York, for Senate in Delaware and for a smattering of House seats in states including Kansas, Massachusetts and Missouri.

    The pressure from a new generation of confrontational progressives has put Democrats at the precipice of a sweeping transition, away from not only the centrist ethos of the Bill Clinton years but also, perhaps, from the consensus-oriented liberalism of Barack Obama. Less than a decade ago, Mr. Obama’s spokesman, Robert Gibbs, derided the “professional left” for making what he suggested were preposterous demands — like pressing for “Canadian health care.”
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    That attitude now appears obsolete, on matters well beyond health policy. Corey Johnson, the progressive speaker of the New York City Council, who supported Mr. Crowley over Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, urged Democrats to recognize the intensity of “anger, fear and disappointment from people in our own party,” especially those new to the political process.

    “They’re young, and a lot of them are folks that weren’t around or weren’t engaged when Obama ran for the first time,” Mr. Johnson, 36, said. “So this is their moment of: Let’s take our country back.”

    In a source of relief to Democratic officials, the millennial-infused left has left a lighter mark in moderate areas where Republicans are defending their congressional majorities, and where bluntly left-wing candidates could struggle to win. In House races, Democrats have mainly picked nominees well to the left of center, but to the right of Mr. Sanders and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez.

    Across most of the approximately 60 Republican-held districts that Democrats are contesting, primary voters have chosen candidates who seem to embody change — many of them women and minorities — but who have not necessarily endorsed positions like single-payer health care and abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency.

    Some national Democrats remain skeptical that voters are focused on specific policy demands of the kind Mr. El-Sayed and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez have championed. Former Gov. Martin O’Malley of Maryland, a left-of-center Democrat who ran for president in 2016, suggested the party wants “new leaders and fresh ideas” more than hard-left ideology.

    “Sometimes that may be filled by a leader who calls herself a Democratic socialist, and sometimes it’s not,” said Mr. O’Malley, reflecting on the political convulsion that touched his home state. “Sometimes it’s with a young person. Sometimes it’s with a retiree. Sometimes it’s with a vet.”

    Several crucial Democratic victories since 2016 have also come with avowedly moderate standard-bearers, such as Senator Doug Jones of Alabama and Representative Conor Lamb of Pennsylvania, who won grueling special elections. And unlike hard-liners on the right, Democratic activists have not contested Senate primaries in conservative-leaning states where the majority is at stake, allowing centrists to run unimpeded in Arizona and Tennessee.

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    Yet among Democratic stalwarts, there is a sometimes-rueful recognition that a cultural gulf separates them from the party’s next generation, much of which inhabits a world of freewheeling social media and countercultural podcasts that are wholly unfamiliar to older Democrats.

    Evan Nowlin, a writer and barista supporting Mr. El-Sayed, said he had been motivated to volunteer by a podcast hosted by The Intercept, a left-leaning news site that has intensively covered challenges to the Democratic establishment.
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    Mr. Nowlin, a soft-spoken 26-year-old who supported Mr. Sanders in 2016, said the traditional Democratic leadership had plainly failed to inspire the country. “I think they’re generally spineless,” he said.

    In some instances, the party’s rebels may be too brazen even for some of the candidates they have supported. The gradations of Democratic revolution were on display at an event in Brooklyn Tuesday celebrating the Working Families Party: Cynthia Nixon, the actor running in a September primary against Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York, a more moderate Democrat, drew cheers hailing Ms. Ocasio-Cortez and her fellow Democratic socialists.

    But Mr. Jealous, the Maryland nominee for governor, who is supported by Working Families and addressed the event, was warier of the socialist label. After embracing Ms. Nixon on stage but not quite endorsing her, Mr. Jealous chuckled at a question about the resurrection of Democratic socialism as a political identity.

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    “I’m a venture capitalist,” he said, noting his work as an investor. “I’m kind of like the last person to ask.”
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    In Michigan, however, Mr. El-Sayed is counting on a mood of ideological ambition to decide his primary: He remains an underdog, facing a well-funded rival in Ms. Whitmer, who is backed by powerful labor unions like the United Auto Workers. She has led in recent polls, while a third candidate, Shri Thanedar, a wealthy wild card, has complicated the race.

    Aiming to build momentum, Mr. El-Sayed will campaign later this month with Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, to whom he linked himself in generation and political outlook. Ms. Ocasio-Cortez also campaigned in Kansas Friday for liberal House candidates and was slated for an event over the weekend for a primary challenger to a Democratic incumbent in Missouri, William Lacy Clay.

    “The rise of somebody like Alexandria seems kind of obvious to somebody in our generation,” Mr. El-Sayed said in an interview, casting the moment in grand terms: “The machine, whether it is on the right or on the left, has assented to this broken system of corporate politics, and I think people are real frustrated about that.”

    That mind-set unnerves Democratic veterans like Mr. Brewer, the former party chairman, in a state where they have long struggled to overcome a Republican machine aligned with the business community. Mr. Trump’s slim victory there exposed divisions between the national Democratic Party and many of the white union members on whose votes Michigan Democrats rely, underscoring Democrats’ tenuous position in 2018.

    But within deep-blue precincts where Democratic insurgency appears strongest, talk of accommodating the center is in short supply.

    In Massachusetts, where several incumbent House Democrats are facing feisty challenges, Michelle Wu, a 33-year-old member of the Boston City Council, said voters are demanding leaders who share their intense alarm about economic and racial inequality. Defying the local machine, she recently endorsed Ayanna Pressley, a fellow council member, in a primary against Representative Michael Capuano, a long-serving liberal.

    “People want to believe we can take our own future into our hands,” Ms. Wu said.

    in reply to: I can't help it & gush about the secondary again #89059
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    The Rams NEED aaron donald.

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    in reply to: Anthem Echo #89051
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    in reply to: Trumpism: The Real Danger of Donald Trump #89016
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    “….And were that the only concern, then we could all go back to our regularly scheduled politics of corporate neoliberal imperialism…”

    America: The rightwing-hate-machine VS. The Neoliberal-Imperialist-planet-killers.

    Ah well. At least there are some progressives out there. Outnumbered, out-funded…but at least there ‘something’ goin on in America that doesnt make us want to do an eternal faceplant.

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    I read Lies My Teacher Told Me awhile back.

    He sites one of the reasons that students are presented with a tepid and ultimately false depiction of American history is because of the textbook publishers. Obviously. they are trying to sell as many books as possible, so they market them to school boards across the country. But to get school boards to approve of their textbooks’ purchase, the members of the boards must like what’s in them. The material better not offend the people on the board.

    And since they can’t make different versions of the textbook for different regions of the country, they need a “one size fits all” textbook.

    So ultimately, wherever you live, even if it’s in America-hating commie regions of the country like California or Vermont, your history text will promote the “America the Savior” perspective because publishers can’t afford to piss off the blue-haired “daughter of the Confederacy” sitting on a school board in Texas.

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    You cant have a corporotacracy without layers and layers of lies. Its grounded on lies.

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    My oldest son came up with tickets for the 49ers game in San Francisco on the 21st of October. I will be staying the night Saturday at a hotel yet to be named. If anyone out there attending or close by let me know…..jimiramsboy@gmail.com

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    Awesome.

    Maybe I’ll get to a Ram game before i die.

    I might get the urge to kneel during the anthem. Probly best if i just stay home 🙂

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    Aaron Donald tweeted a picture of an hour glass, i saw.

    Dunno what that means.

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    Here’s how the issue can “go away”.

    Join every other industrialized country and stop playing the anthem at sporting events. I don’t recall it ever being played at Ram games in the late 40s at the Coliseum. Players came out from the tunnel to the sound of the Ram fight on song and that was it.

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    Or… we could make police brutality go away.

    And then no-one would be committing the atrocity of kneeling during a really bad song.

    Anyway, i agree with zooey. Though Shannon Sharpe has done a great job in the past at not avoiding the actual issue — which is police brutality. I have no idea how Shannon got away with doing a couple speeches on the actual issue. He hasnt done one in a while so maybe the powers that be…um…straightened him out.

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