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wvParticipantIf a “family member” could still own the team in question, it wasn’t much of a rule to begin with.
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wvParticipantI’m worried about zooey. I’m worried that a long time fan such as zooey, cant see the obvious — ie, this Ram team is so good it will smoke the league like a sausage in a refinery fire.
Only the Rams can beat the Rams.
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wvParticipantI think I’m tired of Jeff Bridges. I’m not sure why.
I felt compelled to share that essential and far-reaching fact with you people.
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vOctober 15, 2018 at 7:43 am in reply to: reporters on the Denver game (articles, vids, tweets) #92388
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wvParticipantIt pleases me that denver lost because their player taunted a ram player.
A lesson for the entire NFL.
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wvParticipantI saw the highlights and stats. Havent watched replay yet.
Huge win. At Denver, in the cold. They found a way.
I’m happy.
ANY road win, is a good win.
Reynolds aint gonna enjoy the film.
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wvParticipantThe Great Snow of 1943
So in the midnight the great snow
Covered over the dark ground;
Feet were hobbled and wheels spun;
The hydrants smothered, sank, drowned.The great snow bandaged the street lights,
And banked the doors of the bright shops
And hid the hot little cars deep,
And mounded over the train tops.Careless and pure, the snow fell.
This was the finish, we all knew.
So man expired in a white dream.
It seemed like a damned good idea, too.Morris Bishop.
wvParticipantDenver 27
Rams 24
—I dunno, I just think its gonna be one of them games.
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wvParticipantI have watched between 4-7 full NFL games 52 weeks a year the last 7 years. Usually, 1980-1988 and current day stuff. I have studied football quite a bit, too.
And so I say:
Goff is soooo special. Rare special; HOWEVER, a good part of his success is related to the incredible O line play..=====================
I wonder why he concentrated on 80-88 ?
Anyway, I agree on what we DO know about Goff. Accuracy, etc.
But there’s still things we DONT know about Goff. How well can he play under playoff pressure, in the clutch, etc.
I said the same thing about Kurt, until he went thru the playoffs.
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wvParticipantThere are better ways to get products made, and set up a government. For starters dont allow any corporation to give money to any political cause. End corporate personhood.
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Of course, corps aren’t the only cause of the destruction. Overpopulation is probably just as responsible.
10 billion people by 2050. There will be no pristine, wild areas left on the planet by then.
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True the Corpse are not the only cause of the destruction. But they are the only cause wv-ram bashes-on about, relentlessly 🙂
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“…Does Al Gore know the same facts of American economic life? Of course, but you would have a hard time discerning that from his film. It’s as cowardly in dealing with the corporations as Gore was in fighting the theft of the 2000 election. In the film’s hour and a half, the words “corporations” or “profit” are not heard. The closest he comes to ascribing a link between the rape of the environment and the incessant corporate drive to optimize profits is a single passing mention of American automakers’ reluctance to increase car gas mileage. He discusses the link between tobacco and lung cancer, as an example of how we have to “connect the dots” on environmental issues, with no mention of the tobacco corporations or their gross and deliberate deception of the American people. He states at another point that we must choose the environment over the economy, without any elucidation at all. Otherwise, the film’s message is that it’s up to the individual to change his habits, to campaign for renewable energy, and to write his congress member about this or that. In summary, the basic problem, he tells us, is that we’re lacking “political will”.It would be most interesting if Al Gore were the president to see how tough he’d get with the corporations, which every day, around the clock, are faced with choices: one method of operation available being the least harmful to the environment, another method being the least harmful to the bottom line. Of course, Gore was vice-president for eight years and was in a fantastic and enviable position to pressure the corporations to mend their ways and Congress to enact tougher regulations; as well as to educate the public on more than their own bad habits. But what exactly did he do? Can any readers enlighten me as to what extent the man used his position and his power then in a manner consistent with the image and the word of his new film?
But could Gore be elected without corporate money? And how much of that money would reach his pocket if he advocated (choke, gasp!) free government-paid public transportation — rail, bus, ferry, etc.? That would give birth to a breathtaking — or rather, breath enhancing — reduction in automobile pollution; easily paid for by ceasing America’s imperialist wars.”
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wvParticipantbooks:https://libcom.org/library/spanish-civil-war-1936-39-reading-guide
link:https://libgen.pw/search?q=%22spanish+civil+war%22
I asked on another board. Got these responses, fwiw:
“…wv, these are the ones I have. I’ve read them all so I’ll say a few words here n there.
Pierre Broué and Emil Témime “The Revolution and the Civil War in Spain”. Recommended by Chomsky but Broué is a commie. But, that aside, it’s a good place to start to find out what went on. Then, forearmed, you can read anything. B & T divided the book betweem them. Part II is by Temime. There’s also a fine chronology at the back divided in two parallel sections. One column on events in Spain. A parallel one for International events. Temime’s half of the book is about the international bastards. Churchill and the like.
Chomsky article: ‘Objectivity and Liberal Scholarship” Part II. Part I is about Vietnam. It’s in several of his books. (Only lately has it started turning up in Two parts.) It’s not in his Anarchia (a Spanish translation of his Anarchy). Annoyed me that. Brilliant article.
Rudolf Rocker “The Tragedy of Spain”. Pamphlet. Absolutely brilliant. Shows you how to follow the money. The role of the big powers. It’s online somewhere. Free. Essential.
Gerald Brenan “The Spanish Labyrinth – An Account of the Social and Political Background of the Spanish Civil War”. Brenan was no anarchist but he was sympathetic to what they were trying to achieve. This spends a lot of time pre-revolution but very useful nonetheless. The 2nd edition has a nasty little introduction by Sir Raymond Carr. Avoid anybody whose first name is Sir.
Abel Paz: “Durruti – The People Armed”. Durruti was one of the most militant anarchist leaders. Killed in the war.
Jose Peirats – “The CNT in the Spanish Revolution”.
3 Volumes. Unbeatable. Massive. Comprehensive. Peirats fought in the war. Even Preston praises it highly.Another one by Peirats: “Anarchists in the Spanish Revolution”. Brilliant.
[There’s a book around about the life of Peirats. Biography. I hv a digital copy. Haven’t read it. Digital is a pain in the butt.]
George Orwell: “Orwell in Spain”. Lots of letters and essays on Spain as well as Homage to Catalonia, of course.
Vernon Richards: “Lessons of the Spanish Revolution”. Not a history book but a look at whether or not the anarchists should have taken up some ministerial seats in government. They did. They shouldn’t. Power corrupts. Even anarchists. Great book. They’re still debating this. Anarchists should have nothing to do with Parliamentary Democracy. Never. Ever.
Ronald Fraser: “Blood of Spain – The Experience of Civil War 1936-1939″. Interviews. Some interesting. Some annoying. Poor contradictory summing up by Fraser. No anarchist.
Augustin Souchy, Peirats, Emma Goldman.”The May Days Barcelona 1937”. Biggish pamphlet. Very good. Tells how the Anarchists were betrayed.
Murray Bookchin: “The Spanish Anarchists – The Heroic Years 1868-1936”. Up till the Civil War. Great. Excellent bibliography with good advice.
Bookchin again: “To Remember Spain – The Anarchist and Syndicalist Revolution of 1936”. Contains two essays by Bookchin: “An Overview of the Spanish Libertarian Movement” and “After Fifty Years – The Spanish Civil War”. Brilliant. Small pamphlet (69 pages).
Emma Goldman: “Vision on Fire – Emma Goldman on the Spanish Revolution”. Essential. Various letters n stuff. Fecking sad really. Watching her friends being slaughtered by the Stalinists.
“Spain: Social Revolution – Counter Revolution. 1936-1939”. (Selections from the anarchist fortnightly, Spain and the World). Bunch of articles by damn near everybody, Goodman, Fenner Brockway, Camillo Berneri (A brilliant Italian anarchist writer slaughtered during the war. Very much against anarchists in government), Leval. etc.
Stuart Christie: “Building Utopia – The Spanish Revolution 1936-1937.” Absolutely brilliant. Only available as ebook. A mistake that. Explains clearly the choices the anarchists had:
1) We’re winning. The war will be over in a few days. Carry on with the Revolution.
2) It will be a lengthy war. Postpone the revolution until after the war. They “opted instead for compromising alliances with the bourgeois Republican, Catalanist and Stalinist parties.” Took seats in government.
3) They expected a lengthy war but believed that war and revolution were inseparable.Christie again: “My Granny made me an Anarchist”. Not about the Spanish war but about how Christie went to Spain to try to kill Franco. Nearly got garotted for his trouble. The book starts off with Christie growing up in Scotland, joining some socialist lot then the Labour Party then became an anarchist. Right on Stu. Brilliant. Some Chomsky praise in the blurb on the cover.
Here are some headings for ye.
The FAI:
Stuart Christie again: “We, the Anarchists! A Study of the Iberian Anarchist Federation (FAI) (1927-1937)”. The FAI were a group of CNT activists who decided the CNT were too moderate but stayed with the CNT.
Juan Gomez Casas: “Anarchist Organisation – The History of the FAI”.
Collectives (this is the social revolution, what I’m really interested in):
Sam Dolgoff: “The Anarchist Collectives – Workers Self-management in the Spanish Revolution”. Essential.
Gaston Leval: “Collectives in the Spanish Revolution”. Awesome.
Frank Mintz “Anarchism and Workers’ Self-Management in Revolutionary Spain”. Tremendous. No time for anarchists in government. Good man.
STUFF TO AVOID UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT WENT ON:
Hugh Thomas: “The Spanish Civil War”. Havent read it in years. Highly rated mainstream history. Yet he doesnt even mention the collectives. Shld keep both the Stalinists and the west happy. The Stalinists were dead against Collectivization and the social revolution and slaughtered many a person to prove it. Shades of the Bolsheviks stealing the Feb 1917 Russian Revolution. They never did have much time for social revolutions.
Preston, Beevor and Carr are a bit like Thomas. Very mainstream. Worth reading once you have learned to defend yourself with some knowledge of what actually went on. Hemingway’s “For Whom The Bell Tolls” is a joke. Totally taken in by the commies.
I saw a comment by Dovetail recently slagging off and dismissing Chomsky because he supported anarchism and specifically the Spanish anarchists because, hey, you know, “they lost the war”. Yet for 3 years they fought Franco, the might of Germany and Italy (I seem to remember we had a bit of trouble with Hitler ourself not so long after) and the Stalinists and indeed, the Spanish government which wouldn’t arm the anarchists. And in the midst of all that they created a revolution the likes of which the world has never seen. Only to have it destroyed by the Stalinists.
Important issues:
The Non-Intervention Committee (Britain n France).
Better named “intervention”. Stopped the Republic getting arms.
The Role of the Anarchists and the Collectives and The Social Revolution.
The role of the Church.
The International Brigades – Stalinists really. Or more accurately under the control of Stalinists. A lot of them didn’t know what they were getting into. Orwell was supposed to join them but he joined the POUM instead. Wrote later that he should have joined the anarchists.
The POUM were Trotskyist, though Trotsky didn’t want anything to do with them! I have a soft spot for them though they were against collectivization. They were wiped out by the Stalinists.Last one, AFAQ (An Anarchist FAQ) by Iain McKay. Awesome. Vol II has brilliant sections on both the Spanish and Russian Revolutions (more than 300 small type pages just on them). You can’t really separate the two revolutions. The Spanish Revolution puts the lie to all this nonsensical talk about Bolsheviks and social revolution. The idea of social rev. was anathema to them.
There’s a book I’m waiting on. It needs somebody to go into the Soviet archives and find out more about what Stalin got up to in Spain. What went on behind the scenes. His thinking. His orders. And write a book about it.
One more. Only bought it the other day. “The Anarchists of Casas Viejas” by Jerome Mintz. May be the best book I’ve ever read. On anything. It’s a collection of interviews by an anthrolologist who went to live in Casas Viejas with his family in order to see how they lived. The principles they lived by. There was a massacre there earlier. The anarchists very existence was seen as a challenge by the state. Saddest book I’ve ever read. But hilarious as well – especially the encounters with the priest who wanted them to marry rather than live in sin. One really rare thing about the book is there are no real leaders in the village – you have this bunch of agricultural labourers who decide to live by anarchist principles. Truly wonderful. There’s a photograph on the cover that I can’t get over of 8 or so (its not in front of me) really rough looking poor men. Just labourers. Many probably couldn’t read initially. And yet they were anarchists. Awesome. I get a catch in my throat when I think of it. Who needs leaders…
The Tragedy of Spain.
You can download it here.
https://libcom.org/library/the-tragedy-of-spain-rudolf-rocker
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Well, the problem is the ‘big’ corporations. The small ones dont have political power.
The problems with corporations are two-fold. One is the ‘profit-over-people’ issue. But in small corps that one is probly no worse than with partnerships or sole proprietorships.
The second problem, and the thing that is LITERALLY destroying the BIOSPHERE (plants, animals)is the fact that Monsanto, Exxon, General Dynamics, Northrup, Goldman Sachs, etc — control/dominate the POLITICAL decisions. They essentially make policy. It…is…a…corporotacracy. I really dunno how anyone can debate that at this point. And its getting worse, not better. (more people are waking up and resisting, but they have less power due to the trajectory of the pro-corporate laws/treaties. The system is making itself bullet-proof.)
There are better ways to get products made, and set up a government. For starters dont allow any corporation to give money to any political cause. End corporate personhood.
And nationalize energy, medicine and transportation.I know you disagree.
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wvParticipantMarcas Peters constantly watching for interceptions instead of playing his man doesn’t help with the pass defense either.
In all the years of watching football at the NFL, college, college intramural, high school, jr high flag, sandlot tackle, two hand touch street, Tudor Electric football, TECMO et el, I don’t recall ever seeing consistent blown wide open coverage like last week in Seattle.
Peters was unbelievable…… can Hekker play corner?
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I dunno. I remember the 1971 Rams Tudor Electric Football team and the defense was pretty good. It usually lined up in the 1-2-3-4-1 formation.
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wvParticipantRams dont need a defense to beat the Broncos.
wvParticipantThree WRs in the top ten.
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wvParticipantWhat do we make of the rams fourth quarter defense? Seems like they play pretty well in the most-important quarter. Is that a ‘thing’ or just a statistical oddity that has no meaning.
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wvParticipantI watched it. Looked to me like Seattle played about as good as they can play, without Earl Thomas.
And the Rams just played kinda ‘average.’ Not that they were flat, but they were not playin their focused “A” game.I’m not sure who they need more, Aquib Talib or Legatron.
A team is gonna need a top-five offense or a top-five defense to stop the Rams it looks like. (Aside from one of them ‘rams are flat’ games.) So who is left on the schedule that has a top 5 offense or defense?
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vOctober 8, 2018 at 3:56 pm in reply to: reporters on the Seattle game (articles, tweets, vids, signals from deep space) #92074
wvParticipantThe fourth down call was not ‘gutsy’ in my opinion. It was sensible. I would have been more afraid of Russell Wilson with the ball and a minute-thirty, than a fourth and inches against seattle’s D.
I think half the coaches in the NFL nowadays would make that same call.
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wvParticipantI’ve only seen the hilites so far. Seems like they might be a bit more like the 2000 team as opposed to the 1999 team.
I’ll take it.
This team is fucking-exciting. Fisher’s teams were fucking-boring.
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wvParticipantRams leading the league in pressure on the QB.

https://www.therams.com/news/rams-hold-league-s-best-qb-pressure-rate
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A number of those teams near the top, on that list are not having good years defensively. I dunno what that means.
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wvParticipantAnything beneficial that science creates can be corrupted. You sorta have to keep that ‘potential for corruption’ in mind when developing new technologies. It’s a ‘risk vs reward’ situation.
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Well, my question would be what are the ‘odds’ science will be corrupted when the science is sitting in a corporate-capitalist context.
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wvParticipantI loved it. Jeffrey Tambor was great too.
The whole cast worked together so perfectly. The timing. And The writing. The subject matter. The balancing the ‘banality of evil’ with humor. I could go on.
Maybe the best movie I’ve seen this year.
October 2, 2018 at 8:06 am in reply to: do the Rams have a prayer against Seattle in Seattle? #91783
wvParticipantFisher could win this game. I dunno about McVay, though.
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wvParticipantyeah. and he’s only 23 years old.
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Lets hope he doesnt break his thumb.
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wvParticipantHis accuracy and velocity are just nonsense.
Two TD throws stood out in particular to me. The first TD pass to Gurley…I’ve watched that several times now, and I still don’t know how he got it in there..
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Yeah, the gunslinger is coming out of him now. With Fisher he was so raw and clueless. The air-raid background and all.
But now he’s feel’in it. He’s trusting himself. Gunslinger at times. Hence the INT in the endzone.
Anywayz, the Thursday nighter will live a long time in my memory too. It goes down with the John Hadl, Harold Jackson game against the Cowboys. Remember those perfect rainbows?
Also the warner game against Miami.
I cant think of any others at the moment.
And against the motherfucking vikings. Granted, these arent the Bud-Grant Vikings. The cold-weather, nordic, Met-stadium Vikings. Still, they wear the Purple and Yellow. So it counts.
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wvParticipantKavanaugh on Patriot act:https://mises.org/files/judge-andrew-napolitano-brett-kavanaugh-and-patriot-act
Thing is, and il jus keep sayin it — Trump will just appoint someone else who shares the same views, and who hasnt been a sexual-abuser.
So while it will be nice that this prick isnt confirmed, it wont stop the trump-policies from moving right along…
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