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wvParticipantTop private sector employer in each state.

wvParticipant…and i doubt if the Obama/Clinton times were much different..

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wvParticipantWell as of March 29th, I’d say the team that was 9-7,
is now less talented. Thats what it looks like to me.At some point, I’ll have to look at Seattle, SF and AZ and see what they have been doing.
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wvParticipantThe evil wv-ewe sent me this, fwiw:
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The following is from Irene Ken physician, whose daughter is an Asst. Prof in infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins University, quite informative.* The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.
* Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.
* The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam).
By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.
* HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 77 degrees Fahrenheit for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.
* Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.
* Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.
* Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.
* NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.
* NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only
-between 3 hours (fabric and porous),
-4 hours (copper and wood)
-24 hours (cardboard),
– 42 hours (metal) and
-72 hours (plastic).But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.
* The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.
They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.
* UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.
* The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.
* Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.
* NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.
* LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.
* The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.
* You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.
* You have to Moisturize dry hands from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.
* Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.
-JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL
wvParticipantI think Bruce Arians is very underrated.
If he can lay 50+ on the Rams with famous Jamis at QB….
Bilichick will be ok too, still gets to play shit teams in his division
But fuck em all …. GO RAMS!
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I’m guessing Brady AND Belichex will do well, but not great.
I agree with the folks that are pointing out, the Bucs had to deal with 30 INTs from Winston last year. If Brady just cuts that in half, the Bucs probly have a winning record. So, I can see the Bucs getting ten wins or somethin.
And Belichex? I have no idea ‘how’ he’ll do it, but I imagine he will do it. Double-digit wins. Somehow, someway. But they wont be elite. Just good.
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wvParticipantOk, well we know people without healthcare need to die. And, Grandparents need to die.
I guess we can add Rural small-town people, as well.
Luckily the living people are gonna get a thousand dollars or something. That might pay for some sort of funeral, i dunno.
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wvParticipantIf this doesn’t wake up Americans, nothing will…
The veil has been lifted permanently. Will Americans even see this?
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No, the Veil has not been lifted. Leftists already knew all this.
The rest of the nation will stay exactly as they were. Dems will blame Reps.
Reps will blame Dems. The game will continue.The biosphere will continue circling the drain, BT.
There will not be any ‘awakening’. You cant ‘wake up’ when youve been propagandized all your life.
Watch the next Primary election. Watch the next election cycle for Senators.
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vMarch 27, 2020 at 12:35 pm in reply to: Senate Democrats block mammoth coronavirus stimulus package #113044
wvParticipantThey. Have. CONTEMPT. For. Poor. People….
This is the Great USA. This is Our Country…
And everybody here knows them. I’m screaming at all my friends who already know this. Fuck these people, man.
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And poor people and working people will continue to vote for them.
No-one will twist their arms. They dont have to.
But they will. Biden. Trump.w
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wvParticipantPrime Minister Boris Johnson has the virus. Lotta rich folks have it.
I wonder if it would be a ‘Crisis’ if only poor people got it?
Man who boasted of shaking hands with Coronavirus patients has Coronavirus. That aside, God bless & get better soon you eejit. pic.twitter.com/5w39z94lDG
— Tory Fibs (@ToryFibs) March 27, 2020
wvParticipantThere’s always this kind of notion, when these crises happen. Pointing out all the systemic under-the-MSM-radar situations that ‘should’ be considered mega-crises but are simply ignored…
“….The story does not end there. Let me keep aside the human cost of terrorism and extremism as well as the nuclear threats for the time being. Here are some of the facts compiled from the reports by the United Nations and its related bodies on global challenges due to our life style based on deliberate ignorance and cynical manipulation.
There are more than 1billion people suffering from hunger. What does it mean? One in every seven people on this planet doesn’t get sufficient food. In the last few months of this year, the number of death due to hunger are over 1.7 million. Statistics showed that around 9 million people die annually in hunger. Out of the total fatalities, there….see link…”
wvParticipantHave you noticed any changes in the underwater environment since you first started?
Environmental damage? Plastic, etc?w
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wvParticipantSo where did you grow up ? If you start as a young age your ears become accustomed to clearing as you go down. You can actually hear the click, click, click click click. The real danger is that if you spear a fish at that depth and it “holes up” you need to stay and work the fish out of its cave. That takes time, and effort-using precious air. I’ve known more than one free diver who is no longer with us because of this. My most memorable and frightening time was 1957 Pacific Coast Championship off Carmel -near Monterey. The water was not clear until 30 ft down and then it was crystal clear-but no light because of the dirty water above. I shot a ling cod at 60 ft but the line was tangled around a rock. After working unsuccessfully I knew I was in trouble. I left the gun and fish and started up knowing was totally spent and out of air. When I reached the surface I could sense my legs becoming numb and the numbness rising up to my waist. I had tunnel vision and knew I was about to “black out”. When that happens your body does what it wants which is to breath and if you do that underwater you breath water and you then sink. Another diver near by-and a competitor-knew I was in trouble and came over to hold me until I came out of it. The article I posted by Terry Maas ( a friend) is very illustrative of the dangers of “shallow water blackout”.
Bottom line-this is not “snorkeling”. A present problem we have is younger divers who push the limits and we are seeing more and more drownings.
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I grew up here. In WV.
Here’s some advice I read.
“If a shark actually gets you in its mouth, we advise to be as aggressively defensive as you are able.”
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link:https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/shark-attacks/reduce-risk/divers/w
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wvParticipantWe are different than the video. Those guys are very strange. No fins, no masks, and they can go as deep as 300 ft. Years ago when we were in shape and free diving in spearfishing tournaments we often dove 70-100 ft while hunting (no SCUBA). Today its more like we float around on top of the water and if we don’t see anything we get back in the boat and drink wine.
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70-100 feet is very impressive. I often wish i had grown up near the ocean. Not much deep-diving in appalachia 🙂
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wvParticipant“Corporations may be the dominant institution of our time, but they do not need to be. Much like the church, the monarchy, and the Communist Party, the corporation has undeniably harmed humanity more than it has helped us.”
=================Well if I was having lunch with your son, I’d ask him to expand on his view that the Communist Party harmed humanity more than it helped them. Cause the various incarnations of the American Commie Parties didnt harm anyone that I know of.
Maybe he means Stalin’s Party.w
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wvParticipantSigh. At just after the 4 min mark, Chris asks him about the injury/lack of playing time — And Gurley sez at one point “I dont know.” Really.
It annoys me.
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wvParticipant…btw, skip the 15:50 mark of that vid. There’s a cute anecdote about the wrestling term “foreign object.” Ted Turner didn’t like the word ‘foreign’ in general at his network so…
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wvParticipantI did not have Prince Charles on my Covid-19 Bingo card.
I do have Glenn Beck, though.
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“George W. Bush is the President.
He will win the war.
He will free the Iraqi people.
He will win 2004.
He will get my vote.
So pipe down”w
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wvParticipantWe all know that "kill your grandparents with COVID-19 to save the economy" is the new "kill your grandchildren with climate change to save the economy."
We *do* all know that, right?
— Emily Pawley (@emilypawley) March 24, 2020
March 25, 2020 at 11:34 am in reply to: This scene from Jaws encapsulates our current situation perfectly. #112931
wvParticipantIn the modern world, far, far more so than in the past, we have close to an overwhelming amount of fog, gaslighting and white noise to cut through. And because, capitalism, that white noise, gaslighting and fog is actually designed to prevent our natural, hard-wired attempts to form coherent narratives from external “facts.” It’s also designed to get us to do things that run counter to our own best interests..
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Well this is what I’ve been thinking-about/talking-about/asking-about for the past two years or so.Are we surrounded-by/Inundated-with/Immersed-In/assaulted-by MORE LIES than in the past in this country? Or not.
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Is ‘corporate-capitalism’ built on LIES?
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If it is, what does living in such a society ‘do’ to citizens?
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How do the modern-corporate LIES of this society compare to the LIEs of, say, the Roman Empire or the USSR, or other past-societies?
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If we are what i have been calling a Culture-Of-Lies, is there any way…out?This is what i have been obsessed with for the last two years.
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“…Campaigners for God, Country and the American Way of Life did not stop when they had crushed radical trade unions and jailed socialist, syndicalist and communist spokespeople. They also bought out and took over the communication apparatus: the press, the schools and colleges, the libraries, the churches, civic organizations, the movies, radio and television. The professions, notably education were purged of subversive teachers, textbooks and ideas. The same men who operated mines, factories and department stores became owners, directors and trustees of the entire communication apparatus. Communication, like merchandising and farming became parts of the big business octopus that was reaching its tentacles into every profit-yielding corner of American life.
….Papers that spoke for the Oligarchs and their interests got the advertising. Others died of financial malnutrition….
….Book publishers and magazine editors were members of the American Oligarchy. They were not top-flight members; they held their jobs so long as they built readership, got advertising and showed profits on the investment…”
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wvParticipantHe does not care.
He sees this pandemic as a personal nuisance, not as a health crisis.
He doesn’t care about other people. He can’t even PRETEND to care.
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He’s a strange one isnt he. A weird mix of:
Flatout-Unrepentent-IGNORANCE + Fucking-Mental-Illness + Rightwing-Politics.Mix them three things together and its not pretty is it.
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wvParticipantYes, i like learning about subcultures. Whether its rodeo riders, or surfers or people who fall in love with inanimate objects, etc.
The freedivers often talk about a certain ‘peace’ that comes with diving with no equipment.
And then there’s all the fascinating ‘science’ of it. The human body adapts to the depths in such startling ways.
And then there’s the ‘history’. People have been deepdive-fishing for eons, and so many myths and stories accompany it….
You seem to be pretty connected to the Water, Waterfield.
wvParticipantBlood type matters? I wonder if that is true. I have no idea.
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wvParticipantJacobin:https://jacobinmag.com/2019/12/jeff-bezos-the-expanse-space-fantasy-sci-fi-syfy
Jeff Bezos and His Billionaire Space FantasyBy Paris Marx
Imagine, for a moment, that you’re a billionaire who’s read science fiction your whole life. Your mind, deluded by your immense wealth, thinks that the only way to “deploy this much financial resource” is to invest in space instead of paying taxes so we can collectively solve the problems on Earth. When a fictional television show about space colonization is canceled in its third season, you swoop in to save the day because not only do you fund a space company, but you also own a massive streaming platform — and it needs content. After chatting with some of the cast, you email your team asking to announce the show’s renewal, and — ten minutes after they reply — you take the stage and are lauded by sci-fi fans across the internet for saving the day.
This is exactly what happened when The Expanse was canceled by Syfy and quickly scooped up by Amazon Prime Video for a fourth season after a personal intervention by CEO Jeff Bezos. It’s hard to imagine having so much money that you could both fund a space race and the media that could inspire it all at the same time, but that’s exactly what he’s doing.
Earlier this year, Bezos put forward his vision for space colonization, which involved growing the human population to over a trillion people living in colonies orbiting Earth. Bezos asserted population expansion would allow a flourishing of the arts, with the creation of “a thousand Mozarts and a thousand Einsteins,” and would help us avoid “stasis and rationing” on Earth for an economy of “growth and dynamism” in space. But Bezos’s vision completely ignores what the lives of the working class would look like in such a future. And he’s not the only billionaire making that mistake. SpaceX CEO Elon Musk also believes humanity must become a “multiplanetary species” by establishing a colony on Mars that will grow into a city of over a million within a few decades. By his telling, it would be governed by a direct democracy with all laws requiring 60 percent support to be enacted, but only 40 percent support to be repealed — a libertarian’s space fantasy.
Bezos’s and Musk’s visions of life in space are afflicted by a misguided belief that humanity will have solved its social conflicts before taking to the stars. It’s a view that may have come from the social relations in Star Trek — another show that Bezos loves — but that franchise’s fictional world is one of postcapitalist abundance, not rampant capitalism.
Even though Bezos claims to be a fan of the The Expanse and is bankrolling its future, it’s a bizarre choice for a billionaire trying to sell space colonization to the masses. Whatever Bezos’s personal fantasies are, The Expanse destroys the notion that space colonization under capitalism will be any kind of utopia. Instead, it suggests a terrible life for the working class and even more power for the capitalist elite.
The Working Class of Space ColonizationIn The Expanse, the solar system is effectively divided into three groups: an Earth ravaged by climate change and pollution with a population of 30 billion people governed by the United Nations (UN); a Mars Congressional Republic (MCR) whose 9 billion people live in a heavily militarized society with the hope they’ll one day be able to leave their domes to live on a terraformed planet; and the asteroid belt, known simply as “the Belt,” with 50 to 100 million people who have no autonomy, but whose lives are controlled by the corporations that employ them and the security apparatus of the UN or MCR, depending on which government has jurisdiction over the moon, asteroid, or space station they happen to live on.
Belters, as they’re called, are under the boot of the inner planets. They’re the working class of the system, paid little despite mining the resources and building the ships needed by Earth and Mars. Life for Belters is a constant battle against environments not designed for human life, struggling for enough water and fighting landlords who cheap out on the air filters needed to keep themselves and their children healthy. Their bodies have been deformed by generations in low gravity, making them taller and more slender than the “inners,” as they call those from Earth and Mars, and weakening their bones so they can’t return to Earth. Their distinctive physical features and their unique variation of English make it easy for those from Earth and Mars to single them out and treat them as money-grubbing thieves who are less than the people from the inner worlds. But they’re not resigned to their oppression. Accepting they have no home but the Belt, a section of Belters formed the Outer Planets Alliance (OPA), a mix between a labor union and advocacy group to fight for Belter rights and independence from the inners. It’s treated as a terrorist group by the governments of Earth and Mars, just as Nelson Mandela, the African National Congress, and so many other groups that fought against colonialism and apartheid were before they won.
In the fifth episode of The Expanse’s first season, the show cuts away from the main story lines to an asteroid mine under the jurisdiction of the UN. The miners are refusing to work because the poor air quality and low gravity in their outpost is making their children sick. All they want is for that to be addressed, but their employer denies the problem, and the UN Marines blockade the station for four days. The workers try to contact UN command several times to surrender but find their comms have been jammed. As they attempt to send their final message, a UN ship destroys the asteroid, killing everyone on board. It’s a tactic designed to send a message to other mining colonies, and it shows just how little those in power value the lives of the workers who make their colonization efforts possible.
It’s worth wondering what Jeff Bezos thinks about the plight of Belters, but it’s likely he pays them little mind. His vision of space colonization makes no mention of the working class, placing far more emphasis on the lives well-off residents will be able to lead and the small percentage of people who will be lauded as geniuses. That blind spot echoes how Bezos treats the Amazon workers who are responsible for his great wealth, leaving them to toil in warehouses where they’re constantly monitored, afraid to take bathroom breaks, get injured at rates more than twice the industry average, and have to suffer through high temperatures needed so the robots keep working (the robots, the workers are told, do not function well in cooler temperatures).
Bezos may well believe the Belters are in their rightful place and not think much more about it, but that’s not the only way The Expanse demonstrates how regular people could suffer in a capitalist space future.
Sacrificing People for PowerJust as Bezos has little consideration for Amazon warehouse workers, the powerful in The Expanse have a similar disinterest in the plight of common people. That’s demonstrated both by senior members of government and one of the richest men in the solar system, the show’s very own Bezos.
Back on Earth, the UN of The Expanse has failed to maintain an economy, to use Bezos’s words, of “dynamism and growth” despite colonizing the solar system. UN deputy undersecretary Chrisjen Avasarala explains that the government is unable to provide enough opportunities for its residents, so while some of them work, many survive on a welfare payment called Basic Assistance. It’s similar to the basic income that Silicon Valley titans have called for in response to the threat of automation, but when the show leaves the UN’s halls of power to give viewers a rare glimpse of the streets of Earth, it’s clear that’s not working out as promised. When one of the main characters escapes the Martian embassy, she meets a group of people who live in shanties near the sewers despite receiving the payment. One of the men explains the difficulty of their lives: being denied medication from clinics, children exposed to radiation from nearby factories, drinking sewer water in the summers, and applying for vocational training at seventeen years old and still waiting at fifty-two because there are so few spots. A small cash payment doesn’t make up for the lack of education and employment, and there’s a later allusion to a class of undocumented people on Earth who aren’t even eligible for Basic.
While the high-ranking figures of the UN are portrayed as being aloof from the suffering of the have-nots, wealthy industrialist Jules-Pierre Mao sees them as having no humanity whatsoever. It’s hard to imagine that Bezos doesn’t feel some connection to a character like Mao, who owns a massive conglomerate that secretly built its own stealth ships and is willing to sacrifice as many lives as it takes to control the “protomolecule” alien life-form. Mao believes the proto-molecule could be used as a weapon but also hopes it could be merged with humans to create a higher form of life. Bezos has no problem squeezing the last bit of labor from Amazon workers, then casting them aside when they’re spent, but Mao’s dehumanization of people below him goes much further. He infects a station of 1.5 million people and uses Belter children as live test subjects, all of whom die as a result of his experiments.
At one point, Mao states, “our actions affect the lives of millions . . . billions . . . entire planets . . . in ways that few people can comprehend,” but he doesn’t feel a responsibility to those billions of people. Rather, he develops a god complex that leads him to feel that he alone can move humanity forward, not so different from the ideologies of billionaires like Bezos and Musk.
Don’t Let Billionaires Chart the FutureWhile Bezos and Musk might have deluded themselves into believing that space colonization will be our salvation, The Expanse suffers no such delusions. It gives us a much more realistic glimpse of what space colonization driven by capitalism might look like: a terrible deal for anyone who isn’t enormously wealthy or in a high-ranking position in government or the military. Most of us would still be under the boot of those in power, as the Belters find themselves, or cast off to survive on a poverty stipend.
Just as workers in the present have to fight against colonial powers and abusive bosses, so do Belters. The OPA isn’t always populated with the most ethical people, but over the course of the first three seasons, it grows from being a disorganized advocacy group to a quasi-government with a ship fighting alongside the navies of Earth and Mars. It’s the most inspiring development of the series, and the fourth season seems poised to delve further into what it actually means for Belters to have power. Will they live up to the Belter proverb that states, “the more you share, the more your bowl will be plentiful”; will their newfound power corrupt their stated egalitarian values; or will that story line be cast off if the show’s new billionaire benefactor doesn’t care so much about Belters?
While it might bewilder us that Bezos would ever swoop in to save a TV show as honest about class conflict as The Expanse, it could be that we’re just overthinking it. It’s likely he sees it as little more than part of a PR campaign to get people to buy into his ambition to profit from the resource wealth of asteroids and other space rocks. And while the show doesn’t shy away from depicting the viciousness of capitalism in space, for Bezos, it might be much simpler than that — any vision of capitalism dominating us even as we spread out through the galaxy is a vision, as far as he’s concerned, worth promoting.
Billionaires will never promote a future that breaks with capitalism because that would challenge their own positions of power and privilege right here in the present. And while dreams of space can entice the imagination, our future — at least in the near term — doesn’t lie among the asteroids. Our future is here on Earth, building a society where ordinary people are put before the rich and powerful.
If we ever do head into the stars, our journey should follow the example of Star Trek and be motivated by a desire to learn, not to mine asteroids for profit. Because if there’s one thing The Expanse makes abundantly clear, that’s a future only a billionaire could love.
wvParticipantHa. Now i see it. Damn, if zn hadnt actually said a penis was in there i wouldnt have seen it.
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