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wvParticipantPre-convention numbers.
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Biden Heads Into Convention With Diminished but Still Sizable LeadRecent polls show him with an edge of eight to nine percentage points among likely voters.
Aug 17A wave of new national surveys shows that Joe Biden maintains a significant if slightly diminished lead over Donald J. Trump, leaving him in a stronger position to oust an incumbent president than any challenger heading into his party’s convention in the modern polling era.
On average, Mr. Biden leads by eight to nine percentage points among likely voters. His advantage is perhaps slightly smaller than it was a month ago, when high-quality live-interview telephone surveys routinely showed him with a double-digit lead. But it is still the largest and most persistent national polling lead that any candidate has held in 24 years, since Bill Clinton maintained a double-digit advantage in 1996.
The conventions often introduce a volatile and uncertain period for public polling, as candidates usually gain in the polls after several days in the limelight on national television. Though it’s possible that the virtual nature of this year’s conventions will dampen that effect, this may be the last unbiased measurement of the state of the race until mid-September….
link:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/upshot/polls-2020-election-convention.htmlwvParticipant…. and though I tried not to picture these callers, I couldn’t help but see them in funny white hoods.
That’s just the last straw for some of them, I guess. Guns, God and Wraslin’. No outages allowed.
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I read a breezy Bio called ‘Mr America.’ About a once-famous guy named Bernarr Mcfadden. He was an earlier version of Trump/PT Barnum. Mcfadden built (and lost) an empire appealing to much the same crowd that Trump and Vince McMahon appeal to.
wvParticipantThere is a huge difference between what individual leftists say, and what folks with audiences say…
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Just riffing off of that…I have a different voice for ‘Apoliticals,’ Mainstream-Dems, Repugnants, and Leftists. I have at least 4 different voices.
Around here, in this tiny backwater leftist enclave, i use my leftist-voice. So i rage against Dems. In wv-brain its just a given the Reps are MORE-rage-worthy.
Lately though, i’ve raged more about Trump. The mail thing got to me. The mail thing bothers me so much i cant even read the mail thread. It will cause me to rage too much during my day. So, i dont even open the thread now.
Anyway, back to my point — I think if i had a big general american audience, i would not use my rams-leftist-board Voice. It would not be good strategy. I am aware of this. Its like flag burning. I dont burn flags in front of mainstreamers. I only burn flags among my leftist friends 🙂
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vwvParticipantPortugal has the biggest waves.
wvParticipantAt the risk of losing a friend let me say something profound:
Since I’ve been posting on this board-like for a hundred years-I’ve noticed that 99.9 % of the political criticisms are directed at the democrats. A very, very, tiny number are directed at the Republicans. Might I suggest you and all others here move to the other side of the field?
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Well, BillyT also noticed a while back, that sometimes it seems I post more anti-dem stuff than anti-rep stuff. Or something along those lines.
I think there’s some truth to that. At the same time, I think its also true that I make it pretty clear (now and then) that the Reps are worse than the Dems.
I post more virulent, rage-filled venting-posts about the Dems because:
A) Thats how i feel. I feel differently than you. You dont feel rage towards Bernie and AOC. But I do feel rage towards the DNC. So there’s a difference there.
B) I post less about the Reps, because in my brain, its just a shared-given among leftists that the Reps are Horrific, Biosphere-Killing, Lying, Beyond-words-Dangerous, Fascist, Gigantic-Pieces-of-American-Shit. As Noam sez, “the most dangerous organization in the world” or somethin like that.I dont think ‘the board’ posts more anti-dem stuff, than anti-rep stuff. I think wv does that. But not the board. But i dont keep track of it. Every individual here kinda has there own posting-style. Best not to lump us all together, i suppose.
Look, W, we are all worried/concerned that Trump might win. I feel it everyday.
He might win. Jeezus-fucking-christ. What a country.w
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wvParticipantWell, there’s some weird-twisted truth in what the disgusting-Rep had to say though. In a weird way, AOC does get a lot more pub than any other Dem i can think of except maybe Pelosi. Why?
The ‘why’ of it, is more interesting than the ‘what’ of it.
I’m not sure ‘why’ she gets so much media-attention given her length of membership and power. Partly, i think its because the MSM likes to smear her. Partly its because she must get high-ratings. Partly, because the MSM likes to set up conflict in its narratives: AOC vs Pelosi, etc.
I dunno. But Kasich is not completely off base. Not totally.
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vwvParticipantLittle bit too much lofty speechifying in that one for me.
Lost in there is a point about what’s happening in Belarus. I would prefer more actual details.
Though yeah the American mainstream news just blatantly and obviously engages in pure doublethink on foreign policy. It’s one of their great defining things. Nice list of examples. Let’s give Sadaam chemical weapons to use against Iran. Oh and possessing chemical weapons has always been a great no no so let’s invade.
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I know Caitlin is not really your thing. She’s less about ‘facts’ these days and more about leftist-rage. For me, there’s room for ‘that,’
as well as the more ‘factual’ types of writers.w
vwvParticipantwvParticipantwvParticipantI would be physically unable to stomach watching the corporate-dems.
I’ll tell you something else I wont watch — If Biden survives the Rep-Cheating and manages to win, I will stay away from news/tv for a month. I couldnt stomach the new version of ‘hopey-changey’ shit from the dem-corporatists.
…course it might be fun to watch a little fox-news if Trump loses.
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vwvParticipantThis is challenging stuff. A difficult and necessary conversation.
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Indeed.
The class-reduction-warriors need to understand more about race and not minimize it,
and the Identity-Race-Warriors need to understand how much race is tied to the Capitalist-Class-System.It COULD be a challenging but rewarding conversation whereby alliances and solidarity were built.
But….Humans. Leftists.
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vAugust 16, 2020 at 3:22 pm in reply to: Trump admits (today) that he’s trying to sabotage vote-by-mail. #119426wvParticipantEven if you drop ballots off in person — you still have to RECEIVE the ballots by mail, right?
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vwvParticipantwvParticipantWell i suspect there are a significant number of conservatives out there in the heartlands. Not a ‘lot’ but I’m guessing maybe five percent of the Reps. Somethin like that. Enough to swing a close election.
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vCould be. But I am not sure it’s a close election. Right now it looks like a pending shift back to glory and splendor of a world run by right-centrist mainstream dems.
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Yes, i agree it would not be close, if the election were at the ‘usual level’ of unfairness. But this one looks like it will be even more rigged than usual. So, given that, i think it will be close.
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vwvParticipantIn terms of conservatives being up in arms, near as I can tell, they are in complete bot-governed partisan mode. So to them–there really is voter fraud and the post office really is losing money, so Trump’s actions are just the right thing to do, silly liberal conspiracy theories aside. There may be no such thing as “conservatives” anymore…just right-wing partisans who live in the right-wing media bubble and echo it.
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Well i suspect there are a significant number of conservatives out there in the heartlands. Not a ‘lot’ but I’m guessing maybe five percent of the Reps. Somethin like that. Enough to swing a close election.
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I would say that we are in a brand new, fresh level of Hell.They are saying and doing things out loud now. The stuff that we always accused them of doing, and that the conservatives told us was our feverish conspiracy wacko ideas. They are now saying and doing things in broad daylight, and the conservatives are STILL telling us that they aren’t.
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So The City on the Hill, is now Gotham City?
Do we need Batman,
or The Joker right now?w
vwvParticipantHere’s yer guy, Cal:
wvParticipantWell, who knows how WV would handle that. Each State might be different.
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https://sos.wv.gov/elections/Pages/AbsenteeVotingInformation.aspx
I will be hand-delivering mine to the County Clerk this year. In California, we are allowed to drop them off at a precinct on election day, but I don’t see that provision in WV. Not really an issue for you, though.
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Are we agreed, this mail thing is a NEW level of domestic Republican nefariousness?
I mean….just…how…ignorant can the electorate be. This evil evil plan can only work if the american electorate has reached abysmal lows. Every conservative in america should be up in arms about this.
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vwvParticipantMatschie’s Tree Kangaroos.
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wvParticipantThis is the biggest threat to our fake-democracy, since I’ve been voting.
Its startling.
I’m gonna stand in fucking line, and risk getting Covid. And i dont mind. I’m going to enjoy risking my life to vote against that disgusting piece of trump-shit.
Maybe its about time voting was actually a risk for white people, in this country.
No way I’m relying on the mail, now.
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vYou can drop a ballot off at a voting place.
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Well, who knows how WV would handle that. Each State might be different.
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vwvParticipantThis is the biggest threat to our fake-democracy, since I’ve been voting.
Its startling.
I’m gonna stand in fucking line, and risk getting Covid. And i dont mind. I’m going to enjoy risking my life to vote against that disgusting piece of trump-shit.
Maybe its about time voting was actually a risk for white people, in this country.
No way I’m relying on the mail, now.
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vwvParticipantImproving photosynthesis through genetic modification…
“Scientists from the University of Essex, through the research project Realizing Increased Photosynthetic Efficiency (RIPE) have resolved two major photosynthetic bottlenecks to boost plant productivity by 27 percent in real-world field conditions, according to a new study published in Nature Plants. The photosynthetic hack has also been shown to conserve water.“
http://www.isaaa.org/kc/cropbiotechupdate/article/default.asp?ID=18262
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I sent the ewe, the article:
“Yeah, only time will tell. Those plants may develop the intelligence to wipe out humans.”
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vwvParticipant…Of course, we don’t know what the Dem establishment does (or did) behind the scenes, but at least they’re publicly supporting their leftward most flank. That’s encouraging.
Baby steps, etc.
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We know the 99 to 1 number. Whats the algebra in the House. How many leftist-squad members are there, compared to the Dem/Rep Corporatist-Biosphere-Killers ?
I’ve been trying to figure it out. Its harder than i thought because there’s so many ways to define progressive/radical/leftist, etc.
If we look at the term ‘Democratic Socialist’ its easy – the algebra is:
432 to 3.
AOC, Talib, and….Danny Davis? Why have i never heard of fucking Danny Davis?
From Illinois, since 1997.wvParticipantI call this one ‘American Beauty’
I look at things for the art sake
and the beauty sake
and for the deal sake.New York Magazine (11 July 1988)
Donald Trump quote
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From wiki:https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Donald_Trumpw
vwvParticipantCornell, talking the usual leftist-talk. Which is good, of course.
“i dont endorse them, i vote for them…”
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August 13, 2020 at 5:16 pm in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #119237wvParticipantHe was a white guy in a wheelchair, though. If he’d been black…
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vwvParticipantwvParticipantThe DNC-Corporatists gave AOC an entire sixty seconds. What a shock.
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“I only have a minute.
Sixty seconds in it.
Forced upon me, I did not choose it,
But I know that I must use it.
Give account if I abuse it.
Suffer, if I lose it.Only a tiny little minute,
But eternity is in it.”– Dr. Benjamin E. Mays
(and recited by Elijah Cummings) 💜 https://t.co/ul9CE7NriV— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) August 12, 2020
wvParticipantSaw the title and i thot it was an Onion article.
Remember when the Onion used to seem surreal?
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trump:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/12/us-shower-pressure-trump-hair-water
US proposes change to shower rules after Trump’s hair-washing moanPresident believes shower water does not flow fast enough
‘My hair … I don’t know about you, but it has to be perfect’The US president’s hair-washing complaints on Wednesday prompted the government to propose an easing of shower pressure standards.
The Trump administration proposed rule changes that would allow shower heads to boost water pressure, after Donald Trump repeatedly complained that bathroom fixtures do not work to his liking.
The Department of Energy plan followed comments from Trump last month at a White House event on rolling back regulations. He said he believed water does not come out fast enough from fixtures.
“So what do you do? You just stand there longer or you take a shower longer? Because my hair – I don’t know about you, but it has to be perfect,” he said.
Last December, Trump said environmental regulators were looking at sinks, faucets and toilets to revise rules meant to conserve water and fuel that heats it.
“People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once,” Trump told a meeting of small business leaders at the White House.
Consumer groups decried the plan, saying current rules saved consumers money by conserving water and fuel.
The proposal would effectively allow shower fixtures to include multiple shower heads that would get around the 2.5 gallon per minute standard Congress set in 1992, when Trump’s fellow Republican George HW Bush was president.
The energy department also proposed easier standards on washing machines. The Trump administration says its regulatory rollbacks save average American households $3,100 a year. But conservationists say easing bathroom fixture standards could boost energy and water costs.
It was uncertain whether the plan would be finalized. Trump is campaigning for reelection and trails in opinion polls ahead of the vote on 3 November. If he wins and the proposal advances it could also face court battles.
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