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wvParticipantExplained so well. Please watch pic.twitter.com/uQH52MSlJo
— CJ đ (@CJ_isnowblue) October 11, 2020
wvParticipantHenderson seems to be living up to his potential now. Love him. Iâve said it before, but I canât handle Sloman. I just donât the mental fortitude to deal with his kicks.
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He needs a nick-name. Maybe that would help him.
I got nuthin. Slo-a-tron?
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wvParticipantThe suspense is killing me. I have no idea how accurate these polls are.
======================================âEven if every undecided or current third party voter went to Trump now, he'd still be down about 5 to 6 points nationally.â https://t.co/MIn53aVP8E
— Krystal Ball (@krystalball) October 11, 2020
wvParticipantWatchin the replay. You know Henderson is funny. I was not high on him, because i thought he was a fumbler and I thought he was kinda fragile. But the kid almost looks like a power-runner. A power-runner with speed. Interesting.
He cant do what prime-Gurley did, but that kid can slash on the inside.
I’m starting to enjoy watching him.
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wvParticipantSolid game all around except for that kicker guy. Jeeze that guy is going to lose us a game at some point.
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Weve gone from LegaTron, to ‘that-kicker-guy.’
Cant be good.
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wvParticipantSaw the highlights. Geez. Very impressive.
Looked like a fun day for Aaron Donald. What was he up against, a rookie? A statue of an OLineman?
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Long story short: Is it worth it to have FB and Twitter? Especially with the former, I just donât want to support the Evil Empire, and its war on our personal privacy, etc.
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Well, i highly recommend doing Twitter as an experiment. Seriously. There’s a GAZILLION hardcore commies, socialists, anarchists, eco-socialists, eco-marxists, anarch-marxists, mao-ist-zapatista-stalinist-Bookchin-ites, Lesbian-trans-queer-Trotskyites, Vegan-Paris-Communers, AOC-hating-Commies, Bernie-loving-Socialists, Democratic-Socialist-Anti-Imperialists, NON-democratic-socialist-libertarians, Libertarian-Socialist-Pan-Africans….etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
I kid you not.
You can ‘follow’ 5000 of em if you want. Each with their own take on politics.
Now, to me, its just worth it to spend a week or a month exploring that.
I have no idea how long I’ll stick with it, or what I’ll learn.
One of the main squabbles is as old as Leftism. Over and over and over and over they do the Reform vs Revolution dance. They dont seem to have much of a historical grasp on what they are doing. That dance has been done in the 1880s, 1890s, 1900’s, the 1910s, the 1920s, the 1930s, etc, etc, etc.
I just wish they’d understand they are just repeating the same dynamic. They dont resolve it. They just repeat it. Unknowingly.I wont stick with it, unless i can customize it somehow. But for now, I am just being wv in wonderland.
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vOctober 11, 2020 at 12:04 pm in reply to: Insanity in the Trump Era: Cherry picked support for whistleblowers. #122796
wvParticipantWell, we agree on Trump, we agree on the Repugnants.
As for the leftists who are doing the things you are talking about, I’d need to see the specific tweets or posts to know what you are talking about.
When i go on twitter I see all kinds of leftists. I’m kinda trying to break them down into five or six over-simplified-categories right now. Just so i have some broad notion of ‘the internet left’. I see a shitload of young leftists who want ‘Revolution NOW!!.’ They dont think any electoral process will work. They dont defend trump. Or biden. The just see a shitstorm-country and they want a revolution now. And they tend to attack anyone who disagrees with them.
They are well-meaning, young, idiots. So, thats one category of internet-leftists.
It sounds like you are describing the Lee Camps and Jimmy Dores of the left. The ones that focus a lot on the Dems. Yes? We need a name for them. I dont mind them as much as you.
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wvParticipant…. Most clients use Twitterâs algorithm to see stuff⊠if you ever saw a raw feed once you follow even a few hundred people, itâs dizzying. They cherry pick what you see. NO way around that⊠the Matrix is far too bigâŠ.
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Well, I found some of those lists people post. To ‘boost’ people. So, i ‘followed’ about a thousand leftists, using those lists.
So now my twitter-feed (if thats what u call it) is indeed dizzying. I feel like I’m watching 1000 tv-shows, or walking into the middle of 1000 conversations.
I dont quite get yet, what to do with this. I havent quite decided of what use it is for ‘me.’ I see some potential, but I dunno.
I need to learn more about how i can customize the thing. Like…I’d like to have a NEWS feed. Just news. So, i can scan it in the morning. I do like the newsy-tweets. Can i have more than one twitter-feed? One for news sites, and one for just conversation-blurbs with people? Or do you just get one big feed.
I tried to direct message you, btw, and it said you cant be DM’d.
So far the coolest thing Ive found on twitter is some folks who write about labor history. There’s definitely some good stuff out there in the twitter-verse.
Amongst the usual shit.w
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wvParticipantBlack man led by police while bound with rope sues city for $1M https://t.co/45TR5mdHpY
— Rodney Latstetter đč #LaborParty (@proviewsusa) October 11, 2020
October 10, 2020 at 6:18 pm in reply to: Insanity in the Trump Era: Cherry picked support for whistleblowers. #122776
wvParticipant< And, yeah, there was plenty of dirt to be had about Trump and his party. And I donât see it as speculation to say so.
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Its not speculation to think there was dirt on Trump. But it is speculation to think Assange had any dirt on Trump. He says he didnt. We dont know.
And I think the larger issue is what the global-capitalist-system is doing to Assange. They are killing him. As an example to whistle-blowers.
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vOctober 10, 2020 at 4:58 pm in reply to: My B-day Present (early), Drop 177x Go audiophile headphones. Beyond good!!! #122769
wvParticipantYeah, no doubt.
Home theater and audio pretty much is my viceâŠâŠ
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I got two main vices.
I buy too many books.
And i hate people.
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vOctober 10, 2020 at 4:14 pm in reply to: My B-day Present (early), Drop 177x Go audiophile headphones. Beyond good!!! #122765
wvParticipantWell, I’m listening to an old album i bought for a dollar at Goodwill,
on my rickety old turntable.Pearl Bailey and Margie Anderson Singing the Blues.
Believe it or not Pearl had a great voice back in the day. She does a nice job with The Thrill Is Gone, and Haiti Blues.
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wvParticipantBiden is a commie. A tool of Comrad Castro.
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MELTDOWN. MELTDOWN. https://t.co/ghdpfwWTdu
— James Foster #GrassrootsVoice (@JamesEFoster) October 10, 2020
October 10, 2020 at 3:41 pm in reply to: Insanity in the Trump Era: Cherry picked support for whistleblowers. #122762
wvParticipantWV,
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In no way do I see Assange in the same light as I do Stein, whom I voted for twice. Nor do I see him in the same light as Nader, whom Iâve defended in countless arguments about âwho gave us Dubya.â As in, he didnât. Not in the slightest.
To me, theyâre just not in the same universe, as far as their deeds, their intentions, or their impact.
Assange worked directly with the Trump campaign to go after Clinton, while he said nothing, not a word about Trump, or the GOP. And I donât buy that he had nothing to say about Trump or the Republicans. The man was a walking scandal machine his entire adult life, with known mob ties, rape and sexual assault charges, endless tax cheating, ripping off workers including the undocumented, seven bankruptcies that left workers and small business owners holding the bag, his phony charities, his phony university, etc. etc. Trump made and still makes the Clintons look like heavenly angels in comparison, and that was the case pre-2016.
And the public didnât know that Comey and the FBI were investigating Trump and his campaign until after the election. Assange couldnât have leaked that? We found out about Clintonâs investigation, twice. Why not Trumpâs?
Not to mention what should be a rather important matter to leftists: Trumpâs a fascist wannabe dictator, and heâs encouraging, directly, far-right nutcases to shut down the vote. Heâs at least indirectly encouraged them to commit violent acts against Dems, which almost got Whitmer killed.
But, yeah, letâs spend all our time going after centrist, corporatist Dems, cuz theyâre the real menace to Americans.
I picked the wrong day to stop drinking.
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Ok, we just see it differently. Assange told the Truth About Hillary. I dont care who he was working with.
And because he told the truth, he is being utterly, physically destroyed.
There is zero evidence that he suppressed any info on Trump. There is zero evidence he had any evidence against Trump. That is all speculation.
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wvParticipantThat said, as per the thread I started earlier, Iâm feeling a bit âhomelessâ these days, politically. I think the smartest way out of that feeling is to concentrate a hell of a lot more on non-political stuff . . . more on the Arts, Music, Philosophy, life. More on what Fromm talks about as the move from âhavingâ to âbeing.â
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Its tough for hardcore leftists to find the healthy balance.
Politics calls to us.
Like Sauron’s Ring.My Presh-us.
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wvParticipantFarmers arresting a sheriff for trying to evict a widow 1952. pic.twitter.com/SYpM4ZShxx
— Exterminate Racism (@Extrm8or) October 2, 2020
October 10, 2020 at 1:59 pm in reply to: Insanity in the Trump Era: Cherry picked support for whistleblowers. #122756
wvParticipant“…This, I find appalling, especially when these same people sing the praises of Assange, a man partially responsible for placing the neo-fascist gorilla in office in the first place….”
============Well, I agree, and disagree. And agree, and disagree. I go round and round on this in my own head. I will never quite resolve it.
On the one hand, that view seems similar to the “blame Jill Stein” or “blame Ralph Nader” notions. I mean, i can see how people would think that, but i also know that what Assange published and what Nader says, and what Stein says — is all TRUE. Do i blame people for telling the truth?
Now the actual (and forseeable) results were — they gave us Republican Monsters.
So, I get that ‘there’s that.’I’ve often asked Assange-lovers about that fact that surely he could have exposed facts about Trump too. But who knows. Assange says he had nothing on Trump. No-one gave him documents on Trump.
But then it doesnt take a genius to know, Assange knew Hillary was against him. So maybe he tilted toward Trump hoping for the best. I dunno.
And of course, just because Assange didnt go after trump, doesnt justify the Western Governments unconscionable attack on him. Its the Snowden treatment and its unconscionable. Its what they do though. Call it the deep state or corporotacracy or whatever. Its what they do.
At any rate, while I am not one of those who thinks Assange is a saint (and there are a TON of those on the left), I am still probly thinking of him as a flawed-but-positive-force in the world. Wikileaks has fought the good fight imho. Not perfect, but I support them.
I saw a lot of lefties attacking AOC on Twitter. Because she was wrong about Venezuela or this, or that. And I’ve seen a lot of lefties attacking Bernie. He’s “too far to the right.” Etc and so forth.
Assange, Nader, Bernie, Jill, AOC…. as i have scrolled thru twitter the last week, I have found myself wanting to strangle Many-a-young-leftist. I want to say, “I know these people are flawed — but lets focus on how to create MORE leftists. We need MORE leftists. We need non-leftists to turn into Leftists. We need to turn them. Like vampires. Now how…do…we…do…THAT ?
I dont think we do it, by focusing on whats wrong with this or that person of the left.
I’m just riffing here. Just wondering if there can ever be a unified approach on the ‘left’.
wvParticipantLefty Science
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wvParticipantmy opponent hasnât even been killed, how can he lead the country in these trying times? https://t.co/pj6FqnmZw4
— two time pro bowler fred dryer (@CobrastanGuy) October 5, 2020
wvParticipantHappy #InternationalPodcastDay to these wonderful podcasts for their teachings & organizing!@MAKCapitalism @leftpagepod @LeftPOC @RevLeftRadio @coffeewcomrades @The_Red_Nation @east_podcast @redlifepodcast @Beyond_Prison @the_minyan @marxmadnesspod @RadReflections pic.twitter.com/Hz5rMXYB7F
— Jason Bean (@LookednBooked) September 30, 2020
October 10, 2020 at 11:13 am in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #122747
wvParticipantJust some pod casts:
=======recently been listening to @MAKCapitalism @LeftPOC @rustbeltradio @RevLeftRadio @kitelineradio Groundings, I Don't Speak German, Reel Abstractions, @east_podcast @leftanc @CitationsPod @ttsgpod @deleteuracct, to name just a few!
— newspapers dot com influencer (@CharlotteERosen) October 6, 2020
wvParticipantNice article.
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police:https://www.radicalhistoryreview.org/abusablepast/abolition-or-bust-liberal-police-reform-as-an-engine-of-carceral-violence/
Abolition or Bust: Liberal Police Reform as an Engine of Carceral Violence“…………Because âknowledgeâ of Black criminality was understood as a scientific and neutral fact, rather than a narrow and racialized political construction, liberals understood heightened policing in Black urban neighborhoods not as a form of racism and ongoing white supremacist terror, but as a legitimate and necessary response to urban crime. In the process, they conveniently invisibilized ongoing structural racism and police terrorism against Black communities. Through such a framework, they could declare their proud support for civil rights while also believing it necessary to expand the policing and penal control of Black urban neighborhoods. When Black people rose up against racist police brutality and oppression in a series of urban rebellions throughout the 1960s, liberal policymakers hardened this âconsensusâ around the so-called criminal behavior of âriotersâ and intensified rather than confronted the harmful role of law enforcement in these neighborhoods. As Elizabeth Hinton writes in From the War on Poverty to the War on Crime: The Making of Mass Incarceration in America, âracism embedded within federal policy and the social science research that rationalized it encouraged officials to embrace patrol, surveillance, and confinement as a means of exerting social control in neighborhoods of segregated poverty.â These twin features of liberal law and order â the belief in the criminal legal systemâs objectivity and fairness on the one hand, and a racist belief in a âstatistical and sociological âtruthâ of black criminalityâ â have ensured liberal police reforms have not only failed to make police less violent against Black people. As historians have shown, these reforms have actually worsened police violence and paved the way for our contemporary crisis of mass imprisonment.
Johnsonâs War on Crime is a case and point….see link…”
October 10, 2020 at 10:47 am in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #122741
wvParticipantI suppose today is the right day to announce my new publication in @RadHistReview, a review essay on Rock Against Racism, which argues that defeating the political advances and street violence of fascists required creative & daring political organizing. https://t.co/XGJ00flBh4 pic.twitter.com/3IOljR7GgS
— Stuart Schrader (@stschrader1) September 30, 2020
wvParticipantI forgot how intense Olberman can get. I hope he gets that intense if Biden gets elected.
————Keith Olbermann forcefully makes the case that Amy Coney Barrett should be immediately arrested and prosecuted once Trump loses the election: https://t.co/3VFwZi6hva
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) October 9, 2020
October 9, 2020 at 10:13 pm in reply to: Rams v. Washington: another game against the dangerous NFC East #122723
wvParticipantWell its tough to sweep an entire division. I am guessing the Rams have never ever swept the NFC East. All four teams.
I’m guessing the Over The Hill Gang learned a lot from the Giants.
I say this is a week for one of those weirdly-bad Goff-games.Washington: 17
Rams 16
wvParticipantOctober 9, 2020 at 3:30 pm in reply to: Rightwing violent-fringe, rightwing conspiracy theories, etc. #122703
wvParticipantDar Leaf was named "Sheriff of the Year" by the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, a right-wing extremist group on the SPLC's radar: https://t.co/17FySzGPM8
— Stephanie Nakhleh (@StephNakhleh) October 9, 2020
October 9, 2020 at 3:25 pm in reply to: Rightwing violent-fringe, rightwing conspiracy theories, etc. #122702
wvParticipantmichigan interview
—————-This interview with a sitting sheriff in Michigan is absolutely wild. pic.twitter.com/h7WKsrAqCZ
— Ross Jones (@rossjonesWXYZ) October 9, 2020
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