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PA RamParticipant
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantWhat–the–hey, well…this is quite unexpected! Thank you everyone. You really shouldn’t have by which I mean–YES–you ABSOLUTELY should have. Man–we sure are gettin’ old. Where does the time go?
Technically I guess it doesn’t really go anywhere and it’s all relative anyway. But my goal over the next several years is to train myself to live outside of TIME. Sure–it’s a bit lofty but it’s that or learn how to juggle chainsaws. My wife will NOT let me bring chainsaws into the house so…
Anyway–thanks all and of course–as always…GO RAMS!!!!!
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantHey–thanks guys–and Zooey–I love the Marx cake but couldn’t he be wearing a Rams helmet? Oh–I don’t mean the fancy bourgeoisie blue and gold horns—not at all. I mean the old blue and whites. Marx definitely woulda favored the blue and white unis.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantFirst of all–I want to thank you for fixing that. I certainly don’t want to be known as “the guy who killed the bean thread”.
I would welcome any advice on posting gifs you can offer. See–when I came into the league–the other boards all said: sure he can post pictures–some videos–but the kid has no “gif” skills. I figured–hey–not every receiver can go deep–you need the possession guys too–but as I’ve gotten older I find I need more diverse skills. So yes–any advice would be welcome.
Maybe I can post a gif of a–oh I don’t know–birthday cake! HINT-HINT-HINT!!!!
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantAs Zooey said, Sanders is far from an ideal candidate. I was disappointed with his performances in the debates too. But Hillary also is not an ideal candidate with her baggage from Bill’s affairs and the email nonsense. Why not support the candidate who has the best ideas?
There are a few things about Bernie that bug me…
He supports Israel.
He did vote against the Iraq war but he voted in favor of funding it. He also supported NATO’s bombing of Kosovo.
Although he’s saying all the right things now his record on gun legislation is pretty weak.
He’s for labeling GMO foods in VT.
There are others but despite all that he’s still the best Democratic party candidate of my lifetime. I’m 52 and it’s taken this long for a candidate who I see eye to eye with on the majority of issues to actually be relevant nationally. He’s not going to be president but the support he gets from the youth of America gives me hope that the left may finally be emerging as a legitimate player in American politics.
As for the LA Times hit piece–it’s pretty terrible “journalism”. It doesn’t offer much in the way of specifics. It’s merely some statements by whoever they could find on the left who didn’t feel Bernie was “left” enough.
In terms of funding the war. Bernie clearly opposed the war–voted against it. But once troops are there you can’t simply not fund them. If your country is at war and you vote NOT to fund the troops(and that is EXACTLY how that would be presented)you could not run for dogcatcher.
There are always devils in the details of votes and sometimes it’s complicated. Sometimes there are side deals. I remember him voting for the “for profit” ACA after first negotiating health care clinics for the poor. It’s never completely black and white.
As for Israel—Bernie has not done enough to appease the pro-Palestinian groups legislatively–but Israel is far from happy with him either. He has spoken out on it many times–seeks the 2 state solution and of course did not attend AIPAC–and everyone does that.
There will never be a perfect and pure candidate. There are too many varied interest. The left may find that person but that person stands little chance of ever winning. So which flaws are acceptable? To me–I’ll take Bernie 7 days out of 7 days. As you said, Nittany–he is the best candidate of my lifetime–and I’m 54(Today by the way–where’s my cake?).
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantShow that to potential trade partners and don’t let them see anything else. We could get a 1st rounder. Of course if they see the meltdown stuff–well, that’s gonna subtract more than these highlights add and…not good.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantI think the reason you see so much opposition from other countries regarding trade agreements is because they see the corprotacracy for what it is–a virus that infects everything it touches.
Americans are a strange bunch. There is a certain laziness to Americans when it comes to the political process–a certain weariness too. The powers that be have done a fantastic job infecting academic institutions, the media, the congress, the local governments and everything in between. You really have to be a political junkie, willing to sift through a lot of stuff to find anything that really matters. And even if you do–there are bought and paid for foundations willing to put out any sort of information to counteract that no matter how flimsy–and because these foundations are so embedded now in the process the media will pick up on their propaganda and disperse it to the masses.
Simplicity also sells. The salesmen keep it simple and highlight what they want to highlight.
This is perfect for Americans with no attention span.
The sad fact is that unless the large majority of Americans reach true poverty level they may not be angry enough to get involved, seek real change and toss out the bs.
On a positive note–this campaign has shown that there is some sentiment against the establishment. They can’t just waltz in, present themselves and accept their trophy. Not all people–but some more people are paying attention.
It’s an exciting but dangerous time. How do the powers react to that? Will the internet of the future be vastly different? More controlled? Also–some folks will be open to demagoguery and may follow blindly a charismatic leader.
There is no one answer to that question.
But I think the next few years will be very important to watch. The powers will not take being challenged in any way lightly. They never rest. They never concede.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantOkay–if you won’t wv–I will.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantLOL!
Okay, Zooey–I honestly tried to respond with an applause GIF and when I tried to post it I got the image–or lack of an image–you see in the above post. Somehow that’s more fitting. A happy accident.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantThere.
That is my epic contribution to this epic thread.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantZ, for some reason, your images are not posting.
I blame the “bean” thread. The “bean” thread is responsible.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantFirst off as I’ve said many times, a trained monkey could be a lawyer. Law School is not hard. You wanna know what’s hard? Nursing school.
I don’t know that I agree with that. Would the monkey REALLY have to be trained? Or could he just wing it?
Seriously though–I think you belittle your profession a little bit, wv. I am sure that learning procedures and laws and cases would drive me batty. And you have to have some memory skills on top of communication skills and be able to learn about a variety of things that may come up in a case. Knowing the ins and outs of DNA evidence alone is enough to make my eyes glaze over.
I think that it’s more about the law being open to interpretation–to the subjectivity of it in some cases. The fact that the highest lawyers in the land can disagree says something about it. Sometimes there seems to be randomness in how it’s applied in a given situation. While one judge may accept certain evidence or allow for certain testimony–another may not.
No one wants to feel there is any “fuzziness” to the law because that suggests there could be some injustice. But we know that’s how it is.
Looking at large issues like Citizen’s United or Roe V. Wade has it’s own sort of “fuzziness” in how it is ruled upon with dissent noted in rulings.
I have respect for any professional who invested his time and money to navigate that particular and frustrating maze.
But you don’t have to be a lawyer to sense injustice or legal decisions that harm a democracy. If someone could put up an argument explaining why “Citizens Untied” is good for the country I have yet to hear it.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantI also think a lot of Sanders followers are really no different than the Trump supporters in terms of their lack of any analytical inclination to really explore the issues. They are the same as Trump’s simplistic lets make American great again. Instead it’s lets blame the corporations for stuff that’s wrong.
Ahhh, Waterfield, you are precisely the sort of person Thomas Frank discusses in “Listen, Liberal”. You certainly know what’s best for us “less educated” folk. There is so much you simply do not get. And it would be impossible for me to explain it to you. You have a worldview and it is shared by the current leaders of the Democratic party. I understand.
But I could never make you understand.
As for this article and it’s conclusion that this ruling confirms that corporations are entitled to free speech, and that money is free speech–I’d say that is a very divided view along political lines. The vote itself was 5-4 along political lines. I think it’s utter bullshit and yes–I’m no lawyer. But others who are agree with that.
Anyone who does not see the harm being done by money in politics is either willfully ignorant or on board with that agenda. Dark money is the worst of the worst. We don’t know where it comes from. These “non-profits:(what a joke that is)play the old shell game and the money can’t be traced to its true source. We don’t even have DISCLOSURE. That’s astonishing to me. During the grass roots(er..astroturf) movement of the tea party it was found that most of the traceable money all went back to two guys–the Koch brothers. For two guys and their little group of billionaires to have that much influence is to destroy true democracy.
There is a corruption to it all extending to Supreme Court justices who attend the Koch functions.
I put no legitimacy in that ruling.
It’s a disaster.
It must be overturned and other restrictions must be applied if we want to truly save this country for the many and not the few.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipant"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantOkay–I’m like the guy who shows up at a fancy party in a ripped t-shirt and jeans and swigs a beer but I don’t know one bean from another. I do know I like this:
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantI see Goff in his Rams uniform and he looks very thin to me.
Maybe a year or two in the league will change that.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantEvery time London comes up I just shake my head. Are they serious? How on earth could that be workable? I’d hate to be the team that plays in London. Those guys won’t make a season. After 8 games of travel to the states they’ll be exhausted. Logistically, I just don’t see how it all works.
The only way I see this expansion into the world working is by having half the league in Europe and the other half in the states and the winner from each league plays the championship–like the old AFL/NFL.
But that’s never going to happen.
Having a team in France, Germany, England, Mexico, China—I don’t get it. I think they may try to move the brand there but I don’t see it mixing with the NFL here–I see it seperate–it’s own thing but the NFL owns it and makes money.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipant"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantI just finished a fun trilogy about post apocalyptic Washington County, NY by James Howard Kunstler. The books of the trilogy are “World Made By Hand”, The Witch of Hebron” and “A History of the Future”. I have to admit part of what made these books so enjoyable is that I live in Bennington, VT which is not far from Washington County so I recognize many of the references/descriptions of the towns, terrain etc.
I may check those out. I read “The Long Emergency” years ago and enjoyed it but found it very depressing. Of course–I’m trying for lighter stuff right now so….I may wait. As for “The Invaders”–well, everyone knows it was aliens that destroyed the Neanderthals. At one time wasn’t the theory that we were in the same line as neanderthals? And now we are from different branches? They couldn’t compete with us and our unique skill of destroying things.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantHi back at ya Dak!
You’re always welcome here.
Stop in, have some of the free cake(zn ALWAYS has cake) and spend some time with some old guys getting older.
Great to hear from you.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantHey Billy T!
Nice to hear from you! Hope all is well.
Hey–I am getting away from political books for awhile too. It’s just bringing me down. Currently reading, “Dark Money” by Jane Mayer and a Robert Reich book but took a bit of a break this week to enjoy “HEX” by Thomas Olde Heuvelt–a fun bit of an updated version of a witches tale of a curse set in modern times.
I need a break from it all. I think I’ll just climb into a hole and hide from the craziness of the world for awhile.
Hey–at least there are the Rams to get excited about. Maybe, kinda–I hope.
Take care.
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"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantAs for the influence of money on elections..Naw. Coporations, unions and PACS (Soros and Koch Brother types) do try, but on the whole, fail miserably. That is borne out this year, more than any other. Jeb was the establishment favorite, had the biggest war chest and got his ass handed to him by the protest candidate on the right. Hillary was anointed eight years ago and is still fighting off the left’s protest candidate. Really, money may be a detriment to getting elected as voters can be frustratingly non-pliable.
I disagree with this Ozone.
They have enormous impact on not just national but local elections. In 2010 these “charitable” foundations cleverly poured money into states races and gained considerable advantage in the state houses. This enabled Republicans to gerrymander districts all over the country giving them a nearly permanent House advantage. You should see the crazy way my district was redrawn.
Just because Jeb Bush did not win, it is only a small part of what these foundations do. From essentially bribing universities to shaping national discussion, to dumping money into campaigns, their impact as been incredible.
I do think they were somewhat frustrated by Trump in the presidential race. He’s a wild card for them. They don’t particularly like that. They like to know what they’re buying. Clearly the GOP was caught way off guard by this.
But you can bet the money will show up all over the country in down ticket races.
And certainly Clinton has her own money people and they made it tough on Bernie.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantI agree with those who wanted to keep the picks but I do understand the desperation this team felt at the position. I would have preferred Wentz and I haven’t changed my mind about that.
Still, Goff is the guy and I’m hopeful he can at the very least be THE guy for 8-10 years.
I want that position to be steady.
On my most optimistic side I hope he becomes Montana.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantAlso–there is a cost to the billions the wealthy make when they exploit the environment which is not figured into the economics mix but it’s a cost we all pay. They get mostly a free ride here. And castrating the EPA is not helping. A “free Market” is not science—it is indeed rules and regulations–as Zooey said–which tilt the field in one direction or the other. These are choices a society makes. Either you want a middle class or you don’t. It won’t happen by itself.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantOh, he’s a DLC Dem just like Hillary…
Can’t stand ’em. Infuriating…
But doesn’t make it any less true what he said.
If a DLC Dem, Bernie Sanders Social Democrat and a Conservative Republican all say the same thing…(that people need to come together to create constructive solutions that benefit the people more than the institutions and the people within the institutions), then even if they may disagree on the PATH to that solution… it seems that at least there’s starting to be a universal acknowledgment of the PROBLEM.
Ya know… that’s YUGE. I’m not sure I expected even THAT in my life time, to be honest.
I don’t see it that way, Mac.
He’s talking to a room full of CEOs. He’s talking to the money. He’s talking about them protecting their intrests. Now that can happen with Dems or Republicans but it’s a money and power interest. He wants THEM involved. There’s already too much of that. Look at the Koch brothers and their network.
He wants more of that.
The “compromise” he cares about is one that screws the little guy.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantThis is a guy who would choose to destroy social security as we know it to “fix the debt” which is bullshit to begin with because we all know that while he’s so concerned with the debt he’ll be all for letting corps off shore or allow ridiculous loopholes that preserve the wealth of the super rich. And of course–social security doesn’t add to the debt. That’s how it can create a surplus.
He’s also pumping the meritocracy crap because THEY certainly have all the answers.
He talks about extremes as if anything not centrist is extreme and that’s just BS to me.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantI don’t know–Clinton is up by 10 points in California right now. Bernie may pull it out but it will be tough.
Bernie has just never been able to win enough support from the AA community and that has hurt him in many states. I don’t know why that is–but it just is. I suppose she has a history with the community and knows many leaders.
But that will help her in the general election. Trump will overwhelmingly lose minority voters.
On the other hand a lot of Bernie supporters can’t stand her and will not vote for her–period. I think most will vote for Jill Stein or not at all but some may in fact vote Trump.
At the end of the day I believe she will be the next president–unless……her legal issues bring her down. That’s the only thing I see stopping her.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantI loved Obama’s joke when he was talking about journalists leaving.
“Jake Tapper is also leaving journalisim. He’s going to work at CNN.”
He didn’t like THAT joke. But they all know it. The politicians know it–the journalists know it. They all know it.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantI’m just not sure which team really wants Foles. He seems to be the kid without a chair when the music stops.
The Jets? They already have a mess–thank you very much. Fitzpatrick, Hackenberg, Geno Smith, Bryce Petty. Now add Foles?
The Browns? RGIII, Josh McCown, Austin Davis, Conner Shaw.
The Cowboys(for back-up) Kellen Moore, just drafted Dak Prescott. Maybe–I guess…but would they want him so bad as to give something up for him?
After last year–who sees something in Foles that makes them think he’s better than anyone they have?
The Rams are stuck here. I hope I’m surprised. Maybe someone gets hurt and a team gets desperate but they can only hold him so long before deciding between him and Mannion. And something tells me Jeff Fisher just doesn’t want to go into the facilities and see Foles around all the time after the disaster he was.
I see a release in his future.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
PA RamParticipantI have zero faith this will be fixed.
There is too much money and power opposing any solution.
There is something to be said for civilizations only advancing so far before they wipe themselves out. I think we’re watching that.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
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