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OzonerangerParticipant
Thanks. I look forward to the 2nd walk down the aisle.
Zooey, I just don’t see a one party state, like, say, Mexico’s old PRI. Our system has truly become a pendulum. I think both major parties recognize this. One party gets all the power (GOP in 2000, Dems in 08 and back again to the GOP in 2016) and muck things up so badly they get trounced in the mid-terms (06, 10). If Trump and the GOP screws the pooch on Obamacare, 18 will be a bloodbath and Trump will be truly alone. Back to governing by executive orders, which can be overturned by the next POTUS.
Wouldn’t that be a hoot…Obamacare, the mother of the Tea Party, becomes the chopping block on which the Elephant lays his head. That’s why just 60 days into the new Congress, the GOP is treading very lightly. The mids are less than two years away. Meanwhile, the Dems are doing everything they can to throw rocks into the Trump wheel.
It’s chaos, but I like it.
You probably don’t agree with me on this, but I see that pendulum moving from the center-right to the much further right, and it seems the Overton Window keeps moving more and more to the right of center with each new decade. Part of this is by design, IMO. As the Dems have now become the true “conservative” party, while the GOP is now the “radical” right party.
The Dems, when they gain power (basically) seem quite averse to taking the ball and running with it in the opposite direction. Instead, they sit on it and say “This is the new normal, and we won’t budge from here.” The GOP regains power and they run with it further to the right, aggressively. Then we get rinse and repeat when the Dems get their shot again. Basically, they accept most of what the GOP has done as the new normal, the new default, and then do their best to try to keep that in place . . .
It’s as if they’ve broken the laws of physics. There is no “equal and opposite reaction” when the Dems regain power. It’s more like a holding action, which is pretty stupid politically, and, in my view, deeply immoral.
Most people want “bold.” The Dems give them the fetal position. The GOP gives them boldly insane.
That’s no way to run a railroad.
Funny. Five years ago we would have been flame throwing. Yes, we’re getting old…Hahaha!
I but I digress. You’re right, I don’t agree with your assertions. I think the Dems have gone far left and the GOP doesn’t know where to go. I mean, how do you explain the ascendancy of Bernie Sanders? A socialist giving a democratic corporatist a run for her money?
I like the way things are, Billy. The electorate rules and the independents pretty much call the shots in every election now. I’m seriously considering going that route. To be free from ideological chains. That sounds really good to me.
Thanks for the props, dude.
J
OzonerangerParticipantOkay, Mack- I’m just not going there with the dictatorship talk. I’ve heard it all before on FB and completely dismiss such talk. About as likely as the Calexit movement.
Why? Because Trump really stands alone. He’s not the leader of any kind of movement that would overwhelm our democracy, like Hitler had in Wiemar Germany. On the contrary, the GOP- most of whom despise him- is just watching and waiting. To get what they want, then pounce when he really does something really egregious. So they ditch him, get Pence (not my favorite but has the experience to lead a government) and they look like the Good Guys.
I think that scenario is far more plausible. And I’m not the only one that’s arrived at this.
That’s pretty much the way I see it, too. That is…I don’t see the same kind of absolute dictatorship that we saw in Germany and Italy, and various 3rd world countries.
Hitler benefited from a highly destabilized and apprehensive society. While few people are happy, there aren’t that many that would throw themselves behind a dictator at the moment, either. There are warning signs, but the conditions aren’t quite right for all out totalitarianism. I do think, though, that he intends to expand voter suppression, and stack the deck even more in favor of the entrenched power elites, further weakening democracy. We could end up with a de facto one-party state with a new figurehead elected every four years. Some people would argue that that is what we already have, though I would still say that the majority of people are on board with the current system.
Congrats on your daughter’s marriage. Best wishes.
Thanks. I look forward to the 2nd walk down the aisle.
Zooey, I just don’t see a one party state, like, say, Mexico’s old PRI. Our system has truly become a pendulum. I think both major parties recognize this. One party gets all the power (GOP in 2000, Dems in 08 and back again to the GOP in 2016) and muck things up so badly they get trounced in the mid-terms (06, 10). If Trump and the GOP screws the pooch on Obamacare, 18 will be a bloodbath and Trump will be truly alone. Back to governing by executive orders, which can be overturned by the next POTUS.
Wouldn’t that be a hoot…Obamacare, the mother of the Tea Party, becomes the chopping block on which the Elephant lays his head. That’s why just 60 days into the new Congress, the GOP is treading very lightly. The mids are less than two years away. Meanwhile, the Dems are doing everything they can to throw rocks into the Trump wheel.
It’s chaos, but I like it.
OzonerangerParticipantOkay, Mack- I’m just not going there with the dictatorship talk. I’ve heard it all before on FB and completely dismiss such talk. About as likely as the Calexit movement.
Why? Because Trump really stands alone. He’s not the leader of any kind of movement that would overwhelm our democracy, like Hitler had in Wiemar Germany. On the contrary, the GOP- most of whom despise him- is just watching and waiting. To get what they want, then pounce when he really does something really egregious. So they ditch him, get Pence (not my favorite but has the experience to lead a government) and they look like the Good Guys.
I think that scenario is far more plausible. And I’m not the only one that’s arrived at this.
OzonerangerParticipantI have to admit, this is all surreal to me, too. And I lean right.
On the bright side, the market is going bonkers (which means I won’t be living in my kids basement anytime soon) and my daughter is getting married next month.
Yay!
OzonerangerParticipantDelete..wrong thread.
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OzonerangerParticipantIn the past two years I pretty much lost interest in politics. My sole worry is the debt. I worry for my kids and grandkids.
Anyway, watching the ascendance of Donald Trump was both fascinating and horrifying at the same time. Got me back into the game, at least temporarily.Really, he knew how to apply the false premise of “every thing is collapsing” (it’s not, at least yet) to the simmering anger of the right being the targeted relentlessly with the left’s race cudgel to the denialism of many that the country is becoming less white. It was a brilliant performance by a master snake-oil salesman.
The kid in the coveralls bought it hook, line and sinker.
OzonerangerParticipantYou two need to rent a room.
OzonerangerParticipantI just want to point out that Phillips is 40 years older than McVay. I dunno. I’m over 50, and I would have to “get over” being the boss of someone who is old enough to be my father.
I’ve had bosses that were way younger than me. I have to admit, I watched them closely. Their every move. The “experience” thing weighed heavily on my mind, primarily in how they dealt with their reports. But being the team player that I am, I supported them and never tried to undermine or manipulate them. That said, I didn’t step in when the inevitable mistakes happened. Mostly, it was a flappy mouth.
OzonerangerParticipantNow this makes me feel fucking old. McVay is a year older than my youngest daughter. Given this is still a pretty young team, he should get respect from his peers…the players.
But at least they went offense. Next up, Wade Phillips.
This kind of gives me thoughts about George Armstrong Custer. He was a real prodigy in the US Army back in the day. Kicked some ass and took names for a while. But his game-day decisions cost him in the end.
OzonerangerParticipantThis is easy…not bringing in a name OC. One with a solid track record in the passing game. I’m absolutely convinced this was by design. He wanted a power running scheme to control the clock and then win the game with defense. In the end, his stubbornness sealed his fate.
And this is why I was against his hiring.
OzonerangerParticipantOzonerangerParticipantYep. Confirmed.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000755854/article/los-angels-rams-fire-head-coach-jeff-fisher
Just happened a couple of minutes ago.
OzonerangerParticipantMore than one head coach has won with less than Fisher has. Billicek won a Super Bowl with street cornerbacks.
The guy had no understanding of offense and does not want to understand offense. The record doesn’t lie.
I look forward to your excuses next year when the Rams go 7-9. If the ball rolls their way.
OzonerangerParticipantJeff Fisher is not a winner. The last time he had a team in the playoffs was 2008
Yeah that’s what some people always say.
For the record I regard it as bs.
His actually history includes teams that valley then peak. If you look at the valleys there are always reasons. For example only one team in the history of the NFL won while moving, and what tilts Fisher’s record is moving twice.
I say bullshit. Six winning seasons in 22 years. That number speaks volumes.
For another, he has several years there with no qb and to compound it, with multiply injured OLs. No one can name any coach that won under those specific conditions.
And so you do not know what the owner thinks. He might think like you—he might be a Recordite and not a Contextista.
But he might also be a Contextista who believes Fisher CAN win.
So typing up mere opinions as solemn sounding heavy truths aside, I don’t think you have any more clue what SK thinks than I do.
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OzonerangerParticipantThat’s one hell of an offense I listened to, driving home from Roseville.
The announcers (LA on Sirius) said the Rams were screaming at each other on the sidelines before the second half kickoff.
Well done, Fisher.
OzonerangerParticipantI’ll chime in here…
If it’s indeed true the Rams extended Fisher…then the honeymoon in LA is over. You will see empty seats next week and when the Rams lose to the 49ers- which they will- the exodus will go full on. Season ticket sales will dry up for next year and the year after that. I know the fans down that way, having attended games during the 80’s and early 90’s at the Big A.
See, what most of you guys don’t get is this…Kreonke doesn’t give a flying fuck about winning. He’s building a monument to himself. He wants to be the richest guy in the cemetery. That stadium is a large part of it, but it’s the events 360 is what he wants. So what if the Rams don’t draw…it’s going to be Disney\ESPN Center for events year round. And it’s going to work, with or without a winning Rams team. Hell, the Chargers will fill that hole and his coffers.
It’s a win win for him, but lose lose for Rams fans. Like us. It really is back to the way Georgia ran the team. Reupping Fisher just reinforced my assertions.
It really sucks getting older…backing a team that doesn’t care about us.
OzonerangerParticipantThat second half was hard to watch. It seems the Saints made some nice adjustments on defense (if you can call all out, balls out blitzing adjustments) and the Rams had absolutely no answer.
That’s been Fisher’s MO since day one. Clueless on offense and adjustments.
Well, the minions have gathered their torches and pitchforks demanding Fisher’s head.
I’d be shocked if he were extended now…shocked, I tell you.
OzonerangerParticipantGood point. Something to look into. A scary thought.
OzonerangerParticipantAnyway, if Fisher is fired some names that would interest me to replace him include Kyle Shanahan, Rob Chudzinski, David Shaw and Jim Harbaugh. Although, if I’m Shaw or Harbaugh I would never want to leave my college gig.
Shaw is a Fisher clone. No.
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OzonerangerParticipantI’d be shocked if he were extended at this point. Why wait? Why let him twist in the wind?
He’s had his chance to build a winner. He’s thrown an immense amount of resources at the offense, then hires coaches with little or no imagination for offense. Okay, so he lost a QB to injury. So what? Look at this team at this moment in time. We cannot score points. The scheme is tantamount to drawing plays in the sand. It’s a 1970s offense. And to quote that scene in Cool Hand Luke…”that’s the way he wants it.” The last four games bears this out. Hell, the last five years bears this out.
As for Martz..sure, he had a hand in dismantling a great team. Hindsight being 20-20, he should have had a strong football GM. Very few coaches can run the whole show- Parcells, Walsh and Billicek come to mind. The bulk of blame should be laid squarely on Georgia, Zygmunt and Shaw for that disaster. Lawyers and accountants that should not have been a mile from a football field. And I submit that Warner and Bulger wouldn’t have even made a Fisher team.
In my opinion, the team needs an offensive guru to coach up a very malleable young quarterback and bring the scheme into the 21st century.
Five years, no winning seasons. SK is a ruthless businessman. Do you really believe he would allow his companies to drift under a stubborn, intransigent leader like Fisher?
I don’t think so.
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OzonerangerParticipantYou obviously don’t know me well, cuz I’ve been expressing my views on a wide range of subjects, online and off, for decades.
Well, yeah. Of course I don’t know you well. We’ve been exposed to each other’s views for what … 4 days? lol. And how would I know how you conduct yourself offline — for decades?
In short, X, you have no clue who I am.
Again. Clearly. That’s why I asked. You know, to gain a little insight? To get to know you?
November 7, 2016 at 12:25 pm in reply to: something's wrong…and it really gets down to one major thing #57140OzonerangerParticipantFor five years the Rams have not had anything resembling an NFL offense. And that is deliberate strategy on Fisher’s part. That’s the problem. It’s all on him, it’s in his DNA.
Sadly, for Rams fans, he’s ridden that ship into the iceberg.
OzonerangerParticipantI for one hate seeing a rookie QB thrown to the wolves- In game one. But after seeing Keenum blow two TDs- one overthrown, the other rocketed too hard to Kendricks- I’m ready for the rookie for no other reason than to gain experience. He’s going to be the starter next year. The Rams are pretty much out of it now. Why not?
I watched a beaten man in Fisher’s presser. I think he knows what’s coming- the extension was yanked out from under him after losing to a San Francisco team that is historically bad and is now torn up and thrown in the trash.The game has passed him by. Yet, he’s still in denial about Keenum for some reason…
OzonerangerParticipantThis team got shut out by the 49ers. The 1-6 49ers.
Let that one sink in, folks.
That alone is a big reason Fisher hasn’t signed the extension.
As for yesterday, what a frustrating game. Same old shit. Penalties, AWOL running game. Shaky game management.
Once again, defeat at the hands of an inferior opponent.
OzonerangerParticipantRepublican Mentality:
If you’re rich and pay no taxes, you are a genius.
If you’re poor and pay no taxes, you are a moocher.
Way inaccurate. I’m pretty well off and pay a lot in taxes. And I file as single, which as you know, is a higher rate than married\filing jointly. Really, I get screwed. So I search every nook and cranny for deductions. Everyone does.
Does that make me evil?
For the record, I don’t consider poor, paying no taxes and moocher exclusive. I do believe everyone should pay some tax. Rich, poor, everyone.
OzonerangerParticipantHere we go.
Well, it’s at home. 80000 screaming Rams fans. And drinking. And fightin. And leaving early.
Advantage= Rams
Keenum Vs Bills Defense. A scary defense. They could put the hurt on Keenum, so I expect a lot of checkdowns. Unfortunate, as Boras has the receivers getting open. We may have a Goff sighting.
Advantage= Bills
Tyrod Taylor Vs. Rams D. Mismatch.
Advantage= Rams
I’ll take the Rams and the under (40).
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OzonerangerParticipantJust backwards. Instead of 1-3, they’re 3-1.
That said, I think they’re playing a high-wire act with Keenum.
OzonerangerParticipantAfter the game, I said Case Keenum was what a really good Austin Davis would look like because he’s a gamer with limited ability. But he’s smarter than Davis. So I’m gonna revise my comparison. Case Keenum is a more mobile, grittier version of Pat Haden.
I don’t disagree, but he also kinda reminds me of the Jeff Garcia type. Not saying that’s good or bad, just what I think of when I watch him.
I agree with you. He is like Garcia although I think Garcia was a little better than Keenum is now.
Garcia could throw a hard out. And a zip through the end zone. Keenum throws a five yard dunk with a high arc.
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OzonerangerParticipantI grudgingly admit Keenum has smarts and moxie. But he has a high school arm. It’s the sole reason opponents are playing run first. He had a couple of throws yesterday that, had they been in stride (the one to Tavon was maddening) could have gone for long scores. The surprising ability of the receivers to get open- wide open- has saved his skin, and the Rams.
My crystal ball says Fisher stays with Keenum until he has a meltdown half. Insert Goff and see how he does under duress.
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