That was funny. I’ve seen an episode of that show before and it’s quality stuff.

zn wrote:

wv wrote:

See, i think ‘what screws over the left’ is that there ISNT one.

There’s Dems and Reps.

Jill got one percent of the vote. One percent.

Where’s ‘the left’ ?

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I’m a lifelong leftist. And I didn’t vote for Stein. It’s a mistake to characterize the left by who they did or did not vote for in THIS election.

There is a left in this country, as you know. And for a ton of reasons it does not reduce to who voted for Stein. That just feels like more of the left purism I am complaining about. It goes like this–to ME the left equals these stances, and these actions, and to me that means voting for Stein, and if you didn’t you aren’t.

See my Monty Python vid a few posts back.

Making it personal, you’re really saying if I didn’t vote for Stein in your eyes I can’t call myself a leftist?

Yet…I am a leftist.

I didn’t vote for Stein either and yet I consider myself a leftist. It was a matter of pragmatism for me. Trump had to be defeated at all costs and a vote for Stein wasn’t going to accomplish that.

I probably would have voted for Stein under different circumstances but I am at odds with her on one of my core issues that keeps me from being “all in” for her or the Green Party. She is anti-science in that she only believes the science that supports her agenda. She ignores or denies the science that doesn’t.

But this is a just another example of the diversity of views among leftists that zn and Billy are talking about.

My wife is in Washington DC.

That’s a great article. Read the whole thing via the link.

I’m no fan of Obama but he isn’t alone in trying to circumvent the Constitution. Most presidents have tried and many have succeeded in violating it in some manner.

Lincoln suspended habeas corpus. Free speech was suppressed during WWI and the Japanese were interred in camps against their will in WW II. McCarthyism, wire-tapping Vietnam War protesters are more examples. Dubya has a litany of offenses.

Trump has been president for a day and he is already in violation of the Constitution’s emoluments clause because he’s continuing to accept payments from foreign governments.

Every president swears an oath to defend the Constitution (until it becomes an inconvenience).

Billy_T wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

Bring on someone pushing for corporate accountability, and you’ll hear one of their reporters take the side of Big Business against them.

Yeah, I was listening to Tom Ashbrook’s show a few years ago when he was interviewing a couple oil company executives. I thought finally someone was going to hold their feet to the fire about climate change, opening up federally protected lands for drilling, etc. Instead he asked innocuous questions and basically kissed their asses for an hour. He even dressed down a caller who tried to ask a tough question. I’ve hated him ever since.

I probably caught that same show. :>)

Looking back, I must have been terribly naive as a teenager in college (1970s), cuz I really, really couldn’t even conceive of that kind of journalism. It strikes me as so obviously wrong and against everything I thought was at the root of the journalistic mission. Fight the power. Speak truth to power. Power to the people, right on! All of those sayings were very real for me. I was openly against the Vietnam War, protested it in high school, protested against a crack down by administrators in response to our protests — we walked out of class en masse, etc. etc. And while I’ve always seen my generation as being just a little bit too late for the fireworks of the 1960s, I still look back with fondness at our ability, relatively speaking, to see through “the man.”

Until OWS, I thought that was largely absent and we had become far too acquiescent as a culture, and far too compliant. I hope millennials and the generation after them bring back that spirit and then some.

Well, in the end the corporate media will always be beholden to its corporate masters. Can media outlets whose primary concern is profit and marketshare ever be trusted to deliver accurate and unbiased information? There is no fix for this as long as the media operates under the current system.

Thst was a great article.

The media doesn’t print the truth (which we’ve known for a long time) and even if they did, they’ve reached a point where nobody believes them anyway because they’ve lost all credibility with the public. So politicians/the govt has little to fear from the media so they can basically operate unchecked. It’s why Clinton and Trump can vie for the presidency in spite of their histories.

And now we have a megalomaniac in power who threatens to ban any members of the press who print anything negative about him and the public cheers him for it.

I don’t know how this can be fixed.

Zooey wrote:

They only named him because Hekker demanded it.

I can never take the Pro Bowl seriously since it never recognized Chris Massey.

By rights it should be called the Chris Massey Bowl.

InvaderRam wrote:

i would let britt go. unless mcvay thinks he can do something with him.

sign a guy like garcon, who knows the system, and you got garcon, austin, cooper, thomas, and spruce.

i think that’s enough to work with at receiver.

They definitely need to sign a good FA WR, preferably someone who has worked under McVay. But I’m not sure they should just let Britt go without attempting to sign him. I saw nothing from Cooper and Thomas during the regular season that made me think they can play in this league and Spruce couldn’t stay healthy enough to dress for a single game. His entire rep is based on part of one preseason game.

I don’t know why the Rams would let TruJo go without a serious attempt at re-signing him. Big, physical corners who can cover aren’t easy to find. He had a down year but so did the entire team. I chalk that up to the move and injuries as he was banged up quite a bit.

InvaderRam wrote:

if this was true i would have to think it was someone involved in the hiring process of mcvay. i mean who would get on board after they had hired the new coach?

i’d be intrigued if it was marshall faulk…

Yep, Marshall Faulk. That was my first thought.