zn wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

He tapped into a vein of concealed bigotry that is now gushing like an oil well in Texas.

I agree with this. And this is a huge portion of how I see it. American right-wing populism has a long deep history of both overt and “under the radar” bigotry. The problem is that many of the people who are most affected by bad economic policies are not particularly interested in analyzing those issues as being economic.

It’s a world where muslims defiantly kill western whites at will so we are war with a religion, and black lives matter types defy ordinary law and order. All of that has gotten worse (from that perspective) in the last couple of years.

You subtract that component and trump doesn’t even win in the republican primaries.

I actually don’t see much of interest in the effort to claim Trump as the bad prophet who tapped into people’s economic malaise. I think it is far more accurate to say he tapped into their ordinary american right-populist racism and xenophobia.

This is why you don’t see any backlash against his economic policies and appointments. Most of his supporters don’t even know about the term “neoliberalism” and so are in no position to notice that if anything, he is a far more dangerous neoliberal crusader than any non-republican who did run against him or (to cast the net wider) even might have opposed him if the primaries had gone differently. To the trumpists, this stuff just does not register. It’s not what counts about him to those who support him.

Bigotry is about fear of the ‘other’. Even though you are more likely to be killed by a toddler with a gun in this country than you are by a Muslim terrorist, somehow Muslim terrorists are the supreme threat to our sovereignty. The GOP has successfully been massaging that ‘fear of the other’ for decades. It’s all a misdirection. Dangle those brown illegal immigrants in front of them to keep them from seeing how our economic policies are killing them.

I see it differently. While that may be true for a portion of them I still believe the majority are low information voters who vote on emotion and feelings and are easily stirred up by the Rush Limbaughs of the world and believe that the government in the enemy–without knowing all the details or that this is not simply a black and white fact.

Yeah, that’s how see it.

And the things we complain about on this board – the most heinous things like the Muslim ban or his disastrous picks to head up the Dept of Education, the EPA or for Attorney General? His supporters either agree completely with the selectiosn or they don’t care. Instead of being taken aback by his fascist rhetoric regarding the press they cheer him on. I’m getting more and more tired of hearing about how Trump’s power comes from the marginalized working class. He tapped into a vein of concealed bigotry that is now gushing like an oil well in Texas.

My great fear is the American public eventually becomes so desensitized to the constant deluge of egregious acts coming from the Trump administration and the GOP that it eventually becomes conditioned to a new ‘normality’ where the people just shrug their shoulders in response to the ongoing fascism. Instead of resisting it, they just take comfort the fact that it could be worse…

“What? They’re moving Muslim Americans into internment camps? Well, at least they’re not shooting them. That’s something, right?”

zn wrote:

There’s some missing puzzle pieces with this whole Gurley/OL/scheme/can’t run story.

Nothing I read about it clears it up either. It just adds more pieces, and ones are still missing.

Yeah, Gurley and the o-line not being on the same page is something I’ve never heard of before regarding the critique of a running back. That is just bizarre and I don’t have a clue what the cause for that would be…

To an extent, morality is hardwired in humans…

Link: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111007161636.htm

The beginnings of a sense of morality can be seen in other species…

Link: http://freethoughtblogs.com/singham/2017/02/12/dogs-and-monkeys-do-not-like-humans-who-act-negatively-towards-other-humans/

When you see stuff like that you have to wonder if Devos could make things any worse…

Although, this sort of thing probably has more to do with US attitudes towards Israel and how those attitudes are shaped by the corporate media than with a failure of the educational system.

wv wrote:

Well i am not convinced he believes any of that white-supremacy or christian stuff. He might, i dunno. But mainly i think he knows how to USE that stuff to build a political-base.

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You say he might not believe that stuff – he’s just saying it to build a political base. But if he doesn’t believe in that stuff, what’s the point of building a political base that believes in that stuff? I mean, he’s trying to create a world where that stuff is the norm, right? Why would he want that if he didn’t believe in it?

If you were trying to build a national leftist political base, what things would you say that you don’t actually believe in order to build that leftist base?

Shanahan looks like a genius tonight.

Let’s see if he looks this smart next year in SF without Matty Ice, Julio Jones, Freeman, etc

Yeah, even though the vast majority of the protests have been peaceful, Trump supporters see the violence as validation of their preconceived notions of what the protesters really are – America-hating, entitled, jobless “libtards”.

Violence never forwards the cause and should be avoided on principle alone.

zn wrote:

I can’t count the number of women I know who were in that march. And none of them are restricted to the stereotypes this limited-minded guy wants to promote.

Yeah, I agree. That guy is a sexist ass.

Looks like Shane Waldron is the new TE coach…

Link: http://www.12up.com/posts/4509839-report-another-redskins-coach-heading-to-los-angeles?a_aid=40396

JackPMiller wrote:

My Head says Patriots, but my gut is telling me Atlanta. I’m going with my gut.

Falcons 20 – Patriots 17.

Pats 34
Atlanta 31

The possibility that the events of the past few days are just the result of an inexperienced but well-intentioned administration trying to find its way would be more likely to me if it weren’t for Bannon. He’s the wildcard in all of this. He was cunning and shrewd enough to get Trump elected in spite of Trump’s flaws and foot-n-mouth disease.

Therefore I’m more inclined to favor the head-fake scenario, which is the far more frightening one.

joemad wrote:

the last coach that the Rams passed on who was then hired by SF was ………..Bill Walsh….

Was that supposed to make us feel better?

I don’t feel better.

joemad on a cruise: “The last liner to travel this exact course at this speed at this time of year was the Titanic”…

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