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ModeratorWell, nobody thought Ogletree was a bad player last year. Sure he had some flaws in his game (the same flaws he had in college so this wasn’t a surprise) but overall he looked like an up n’ comer. I just think Ogletree is struggling in GW’s system for some reason. It could just be a matter of experience in that scheme or maybe he just isn’t a good fit for it. Who knows…
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ModeratorOne silver lining. There is enough talent on this team to make the head coaching job extra attractive to a guy like Bill Cowher or John Gruden. š
Actually, I don’t expect Fisher to be fired and I haven’t completely given up on him yet.
Just sayin….
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ModeratorHi. Iām late to this conversation, but saw the invite.
If it were me, I would write an email to the teacher. I would do that for two reasons. Number one, I could be completely in control of my tone. I would be able to communicate the entire picture without interruption, and without forgetting anything. Thatās important to me, but isnāt important to everybody. Some people just like to let loose. That isnāt my style; I want a measured communication. I donāt want to fight with the teacher. I want to make him understand a point of view.
The second reason I would write an email is that I would have a written response from the teacher. If he didnāt give me satisfaction, or continued in the same vein, I would have concrete material to present to the administration, and a parent with written documentation will have the administration bending over backwards to satisfy them, believe me. If ANYTHING happens after the email communication, you forward the emails to the principal with an explanation of the recent event, and ask for his/her help. Your issue will be handled that morning.
I donāt know the guy, obviously. He may think he is being cool and funny, and may be embarrassed to learn he is offending your son. But no teacher with any brains would have made your son the target of class irritation over the number of countries on the quiz. I canāt believe it. That is an incredibly ignorant thing to do. Still, I would give him one chance. Handle it āout of court,ā so to speak.
Yeah, I agree with this. I would initially give the teacher the benefit of the doubt. He may not realize what he is doing to your son in his attempts at being funny. Unfortunately there are teachers who may have forgotten what their primary purpose is and in their efforts at being liked or considered cool fail to maintain a professional demeanor. It could be that he has nothing personal against your son. He’s just a convenient target. Not that this should excuse his actions. He sounds like a real dick.
So do what zooey said to do. If that doesn’t work, wait for him after school. Come up behind him and inject a small dose of Etorphine into his carotid artery. Take his unconscious body to some hidden spot where you can work uninterrupted. Cellophane him to a table and make sure you are standing over him with a large knife when he wakes up. Then explain to him why he is there and what you plan to do about it.
October 24, 2014 at 5:24 pm in reply to: what challenges do the Rams face with KC? Can they win? #10370nittany ram
Moderatortbux
If we can somehow win in KC ( I would say is a long shot but possible) and the youngins like GR, Mason, Gaines, Donald etc continue to get better- Tavon starts going off, and get CL backā man O man- 9-7 is suddenly possible.
Is it just me, or are there others who think that Tavon Austin is more of a hindrance to the offense than a benefit? He is a tremendously talented player, but maybe his particular skill set doesn’t fit with what the Rams are trying to be offensively. Or maybe the Rams braintrust just doesn’t know how to best utilize him or perhaps it’s something else but there seems to be some sort of disconnect there. The offense will be motoring along one series and then the next they put Tavon in and try to get him involved and things just sort of bog down. Last year against the Colts we saw what he could be and he flashed a few times in other games but 6 games into this season he’s shown nothing.
October 23, 2014 at 2:53 pm in reply to: what challenges do the Rams face with KC? Can they win? #10258nittany ram
ModeratorPA Ram wrote:
Seems about right.One win does not a season makeāespecially one that involved some magic tricks. Heyāitās great, Iām happy to get the win. But I just donāt know what would make me thinks the team has turned some sort of corner. I still see a team that can implode at any moment.
I expect the Chiefs to win this one.
Iām hoping they donāt.
Surprise me, Rams. Surprise me.
Yup. Not expectin a win, either.
It would be nice if AustinD showed
poise and composure early on, unlike
the roadtrip to Philly.And it would be nice if Tre didnt fumble.
And it would be nice if the defense
stopped the Run.And it would be nice if the Refs
didnt decide the game.w
vWell, I do expect the Rams to win.
But see, the difference is that unlike you two, I’m a fan of the Rams.
I don’t simply pretend to root for the Rams on this message board while secretly delighting in their missteps. I don’t feign pride in the Rams’ victory over the Seahawks while lovingly casting my gaze upon the Kansas City Chiefs like you two do.
So forgive me if I’m not shocked that you two have no faith in the Rams this week. The real fans have enough faith for both of you. Remember this when your beloved Chiefs are limping off the field bruised and bloodied around 4pm EST this Sunday.
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Moderatornittany ram wrote:
Brockersā lack of improvement is the biggest disappointment for me. There are rumors that heās got an ankle injury thatās hampering him which would explain his failure to emerge as a dominating DT but if thatās the case, then that means heās had at least 2 ankle injuries in the last three seasons. Ankle injuries are hard enough for big men to overcome and if this ends up being a chronic issue with him then he may never live up to his potential.Another thing you hear is that he lost weight to become more of a pass rusher. To me that would mean he was trying to fit into something WMs was asking of him. Well without the weight, heās no pass rusher and is not the steady force he was, either.
So if itās the weight, that could just be a one year thing.
I had not heard about Brockers being asked to lose weight. That sort of thing rarely works out and it wasn’t like Brockers was that overweight to begin with. He’s just a big man.
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ModeratorWilliams biggest sin is ruining Ogletree. Actually hate him for it
The hiring of Williams has been an unmitigated disaster. It has set this team back at least a year.
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ModeratorBrockers’ lack of improvement is the biggest disappointment for me. There are rumors that he’s got an ankle injury that’s hampering him which would explain his failure to emerge as a dominating DT but if that’s the case, then that means he’s had at least 2 ankle injuries in the last three seasons. Ankle injuries are hard enough for big men to overcome and if this ends up being a chronic issue with him then he may never live up to his potential.
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ModeratorWell, it figured to be either Givens or Pettis eventually. What Givens has to contribute (deep speed) is more unique to the WR collection than what Pettis contributes. Britt and Quick can do what Pettis does. And more. Soā¦.
I liked Pettis. He made more than a few clutch catches for the Rams over the last few years.
But the last time we saw him he was dropping two catchable passes that probably cost the Rams the game against Philly. Then he shows up late for a team function.
The last time we saw Givens he was catching a 30 yard pass that pretty much won the game against Seattle. Plus, he’s got more speed and athletic ability than Pettis. I’m not sure he’s a more reliable receiver or even better than Pettis nor am I sure he will be here for the long haul. But as you say the emergence of Quick and Britt make him expendable.
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ModeratorCan you imagine the feelings on the team
and among the fans, if the Rams had punted
and the Seahawks had marched down the field
and kicked the FG: 29-28Rams blow a 21-3 lead.
Imagine the mood on the message boards
O dear.
The Chief game looks inter esting.
Alex Smith is good but he aint mobile.
Maybe Ogletree wont wiff on him.w
vYeah, to me, Fisher going for the fake punt was the smallest gamble he could make.
If the fake punt isn’t successful, the Seahawks have the ball deep in Rams territory. They would score rather quickly, leaving the Rams enough time to at least have a shot at scoring themselves. The Rams led by two points so no matter if Seattle scored a FG or TD, the Rams would still only be one score down with timeouts remaining.
If he punts the ball, the Seahawks would be have more field to cover so they would be able to run the clock down before their inevitable score to go ahead. And let’s not kid ourselves – them scoring would have been inevitable.
So to me the fake punt was an easy call by Fisher. He really had no other choice.
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ModeratorThat was the first time the Seahawks had their way offensively against the Rams in the Fisher era. Even in the losses to the Seahawks the Rams defense always held their own. Wilson usually struggles against the Rams but today he set an NFL record – 1st QB to have 100 yds rushing and 300 yds passing in the same game.
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ModeratorIf zn’s hypothesis known as The Team Just Needs a Win to Establish Some Confidence, or TTJNWTESC is correct, then the Rams should be able to win out.
Anything less then that, then zn’s hypothesis will be completely discredited and he will be busted down to mail carrier 3rd class.
October 17, 2014 at 4:34 pm in reply to: Robert Quinn on Sack Drought āAll it takes is one snowflake" #9800nittany ram
ModeratorWell, let’s say offenses are getting the ball out quickly. There’s got to be a way to for a defense to adjust to that, right? I mean, if all it takes to neutralize a great pass rush is to throw it sooner then why would an offense ever worry about any pass rush at all? Just use a 3 step drop and fire.
The way to defend against that is to not let the receiver get off the line cleanly. This disrupts the timing of the play and forces the QB to hold onto the ball longer. Are the Rams DB’s letting receivers release cleanly? I don’t know.
Although I wouldn’t be surprised if on average opposing QB’s are taking shorter drops and throwing sooner, I also agree with laram. I have seen many instances where the QB had all day to throw.
nittany ram
ModeratorNope. My niece is getting married at a winery in the Napa Valley.
Boy, that was weird for a second. Glad we got that cleared up.
Wait a minute…
I’M getting married at a winery in the Napa Valley!
Is your niece wearing a white chiffon princess gown with a sweetheart neckline?
Cuz I am.
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ModeratorJenkins takes blame, says āIt wonāt happen againā
Whew. I can breathe now. He won’t ever get burned again. Thank Christ. I was so worried this would happen again but now I can sit back and relax because he says it won’t.
Ok, so THAT problem is solved. What’s next?
Maybe we can get Davis to promise he’ll make better decisions when the game is on the line or get Cook to say he won’t drop anymore passes or sulk when things don’t go his way?
October 17, 2014 at 11:13 am in reply to: Robert Quinn on Sack Drought āAll it takes is one snowflake" #9789nittany ram
ModeratorHe applies about as much pressure as a snowflake. Yeah, Quinn is being held at times. He was last year too but it didn’t keep him from getting 19 sacks. Bottom line is Quinn and the rest of the d-line aren’t performing. I’ve watched Quinn and I’ve seen him get held, but I’ve also seen him get driven past the pocket. I’ve seen him get pushed down, knocked backwards and completely neutralized. All great d-lineman throughout history have been held, but they still managed to excel as pass rushers. I don’t know what Quinn is doing differently this year or if this is about Williams’ defense but something has changed from last year to this and it can’t be explained by being held.
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ModeratorThe Rams defense is rated 18th. Last year’s Titans defense finished 14th.
So I guess he’s pretty good at forging average defenses, no matter the talent level.
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Moderatordespite all that crap, the RAMS still had a chance late in the gameā¦. two 4th down stands by the interior lineman in the closing minutesā¦..
and it couldāve been worse, Vernon Davis had some easy drops that couldāve easily been catchesā¦.
I was all up for Austin Davis to replace Hill, but Iāve seen enough, he canāt handle pressureā¦ plays well when nothing is on the line, but when the pressure is on to deliver, he canāt do it.
I agree. I think I’d like to see Hill in there too. Here’s the problem…Fisher named Davis the starter for the rest of the year, and even though he struggled in certain situations, he really didn’t play poorly enough to lose his job.
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ModeratorI donāt know, zn.
Fisherās quote:
(On how much the long touchdown pass hurt before halftime)
āYeah, well it was a double move and he (CB Janoris Jenkins) should stay on top. In retrospect we should probably not put him in that position. They were stalling a little bit, letting the clock run down. I even pondered using a timeout there to try to get the ball back, but it looked as if they were just going to take a shot. We have to get better than that as coaches and as players.āA good coachāwho should know anyway that Jenkins is susceptible there(know your players weaknesses)should not count on him making that play. They could have handled ANYTHING underneath at that point. The one thing that could not happenāthe one thing they could not allowāthey did. And I just feel that the coaches take a chunk of the blame there.
To me that just sounds like Fisher covering for JJ in public. I bet his tone and choice of words was a little different when he addressed this with JJ at Rams Park.
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ModeratorI agree with zn in that I think this team has a fragile psyche. They come out of the gate full of confidence and dominate, but after something bad happens they are too easily deflated. Their confidence waxes and wanes like the phases of the moon throughout the game.
In the chat room we discussed the ‘clutch-i-tude’ of Austin Davis. Joemad and zn said he wasn’t clutch and I said although he hadn’t exhibited that characteristic yet, we can’t say for sure he isn’t. Immediately after that he threw the pick 6 and I was suddenly onboard. No, he’s not clutch. His problem is he is too emotional. He gets really down on himself when he makes a mistake. To be a clutch QB you have to be calm. You approach the situation in a matter of fact, down to business sorta way. Think of Tom Brady’s demeanor when trailing in the 4th. Davis presses in those situations and makes bad decisions and/or inaccurate throws. He may learn to be clutch someday, but he first has to learn to relax and just take things as they come. And of course, if the Rams could hold a lead, the kid wouldn’t have to be clutch. š
Anyways, Davis’ psyche sort of reflects the psyche of the entire team throughout the game. Up and down.
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ModeratorI think he could be a great possession receiver. He was easily the best WR on the roster at the end of last season and was having a great camp this past offseason. I think the 4 game suspension set him back a bit but I can’t wait to see him settle in with Quick and Britt.
October 12, 2014 at 6:40 pm in reply to: so who if anyone are you watching? Or…for later…who did you watch? #9511nittany ram
ModeratorDallas gets a lot more out of their defense than the Rams do with a lot less talent.
October 12, 2014 at 9:22 am in reply to: Rams Throwback Helmet Design for Monday Night Football #9487nittany ram
ModeratorDon’t they always use yellow horn decals when they wear their throwback unis? What’s different this time – unless the shape of the horn has been changed back to the way it was in 99. If that’s the case I wish they’d keep it that way.
I don’t like how skinny the horns are on the current helmets.
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ModeratorIf the Rams can slip roofies into the 9’ers gatoraide.
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ModeratorYeah, I feel bad for Ray Ray but if, as Fisher said, his entire body of work was taken into consideration in this decision, then this is the right move.
Up to now his resume has been pretty bleak. He really hasn’t contributed anything to this team except personal fouls.
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ModeratorThe Rams could easily be 3 – 1 and they could even more easily be 0 – 4.
I think that says a lot about this team. So close yet so far.
For years the Rams were an ugly larva twisting and roiling in the muck. Now they finally are ready to emerge from their chrysalis as a beautiful moth but their wing is caught so they just impotently flail against the sides of their cocoon prison.
Or something like that.
October 5, 2014 at 6:47 pm in reply to: journalists do the Eagles game post-mortem…Wagoner, Thomas, etc. #9150nittany ram
ModeratorYesāE.J. Gaines. That kid is fantastic. Iām sorry but he has, IMO, earned a starting corner spot.
I don’t envy you and your day at work tomorrow. š
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Moderatornittany ram wrote:
Why are the players still thinking too much three years under Fisherās regime?Well first remember that this same defense, last year, after it righted itself, was the best run defense in the league. They were also at the top in sacks. They obviously werentā thinking too much THEN.
So one season later, why are the DEFENSIVE PLAYERS thinking too much (I donāt think thatās true of the offense).
Well, because, they have a new defensive coordinator who is putting more on them.
It has nothing to do with 3 years. They donāt know what WILLIAMS is asking of them at an instinctive level yet.
Why no pass rush? IMO? The front 7 bought their own press in the off-season and did not work as hard to get it. But because they WERE so good, entire gameplans are devoted to containing themāat precisely the point where they arenāt on the same āedgeā they were last year.
Well I agree with that and pretty much said the same thing in the post you quoted. However, I think maybe the offense is still thinking too much also because of all the presnap penalties (false starts, etc) they seem to commit. But I could be thinking too much. š
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Moderatorzn wrote:
I see a good, unestablished team making incredible strings of errors.
To me, ābad teamā means lacks talent. It isnāt capable of winning, no matter what.
So to me, ābad teamsā canāt turn it around. In contrast, I think this one can.
I tend to agree, but i dunno.
I tend to think, what I am seeing
is not a lack of talent. In
fact sometimes i think they
are quite talented. But
they just seemā¦discombobulated.
Something is justā¦off.I do think they can turn it
around.Though, I am not sure about
the Oline. Just not sure about it.I think Iām confused.
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vThis team is definitely talented. But it isn’t cohesive. But the offense is getting better and Davis is fun to watch.
He’s got confidence out the yingyang and is certainly not afraid to throw it to a covered receiver. But when he does that, he puts the ball in a good place to minimize the risk.
I can understand why the defense might be struggling given the new complicated scheme and the players’ lack of experience with it. My biggest question about this team is about the pass rush. As in, where is it?
And of course the mistakes and penalties in all phases of the game continue.
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Moderatornittany ram wrote:
zn wrote:
We were talking about this in the chat.I donāt see issues with preparation. I see issues with execution.
I see a team that keeps making critical mistakes, and that (to me) is in the collective heads of the players. Thatās a team thatās pressing
You make this team confident with a big win and I bet they settle down.
I partially agree that some of the fault for poor execution is on the players. However, itās the coachās job to fix that. In three years it hasnāt been fixed. Same with the lack of discipline and the stupid mistakes.
This isnāt new, itās been going on for three years and itās not getting any better.
Watching the Rams is like being trapped in the movie, āGroundhog Dayā.
But see, N, to me, when I was pointing at execution, AND beyond that putting execution issues on things like pressing and thinking too much, I was naming something coaches CANāT fix. In my mind thatās not a coaching issue. In fact, when a team struggles that way, for those reasons, I have generally seen coaches realize thereās nothing they can do. The team just needs to crawl out from under its own doubts and believe in itself. I donāt think coaches can provide that.
Why are the players still thinking too much three years under Fisher’s regime? I can see why the defensive players might be, because they are running a new complicated defense under Greg Guinta and they probably aren’t comfortable with their new responsibilities yet. However, given how vanilla the defense was during preseason, I can see why they may not have a good handle on it yet. All that’s on the coaches, one for installing a new complicated defense and two, for not giving the players enough experience in that defense back when the games didn’t count. Now, that doesn’t mean Fisher shouldn’t have hired Greg Williams or that being vanilla in the preseason wasn’t the right thing to do, but it lead to the inability to execute as a result of decisions made by Fisher and his staff.
Coaches are responsible for their team’s execution. Mike Singletary coached a really talented 9’ers team that couldn’t win because they couldn’t execute. So they fired him and hired Jim Harbaugh and all of a sudden the same players executed all the way to the NFC Championship. Harbaugh made the necessary changes that allowed his team to execute.
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