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November 3, 2015 at 5:14 pm in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33475
nittany ramModeratorYeah I dunno. I’m not sure what a victory or loss tells us when you face an evenly matched team.
I think the Rams still have a decent shot at the playoffs even if they lose this game. The Vikings got to 5-2 by feasting on patsies. The meat of their schedule remains including games against the Falcons, Seahawks, Cardinals, Giants and two games against the Packers.
November 3, 2015 at 9:39 am in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33455
nittany ramModeratorVikings vs Rams
The combined record of the Vikings’ opponents thus far is 18-36.
They have victories over the Lions (twice), Chargers, Chiefs and Bears.
They have losses to the 49’ers and Broncos. Their avg opponents’ offensive ranking is 17th, defensive ranking 23rd.The combined record of the Rams’ opponents thus far is 27-27.
They have victories over the Seahawks, Cardinals, Browns and 49’ers.
They have losses to the R-skins, Steelers and Packers. Their avg oppnents’ offensive ranking is 16.8, defensive ranking 18th.-
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November 2, 2015 at 6:55 am in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33386
nittany ramModeratorWe are better than Minn. I am not sure by how much. We need a better passing game anyway. Against Minn would be a good time demonstrate that.
I agree with you that the Rams are probably better but I also think RFL is correct when he says the Vikings can do more things on offense. I don’t think the Rams are going to be able to hold them to just FG’s so more help from the offense would be appreciated this week.
nittany ramModeratorWell, it is interesting to me that the WR’s on this team are pretty much an afterthought. The Rams go to great lengths to get Tavon involved (and rightly so) and also have plenty of plays designed to go to the tight ends but Bailey, Quick and Britt are really under-utilized. Cignetti needs to get them more involved in the offense – hopefully starting this week.
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November 1, 2015 at 10:25 pm in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33360
nittany ramModeratortheir defense is ranked ahead of the rams in terms of total yardage, but i find it curious that football outsiders has their defense ranked 24th while the rams is ranked 5th.
i haven’t seen much of the vikings defense, but i’ve seen enough of the rams to believe they are better than the 13 ranked defense according to traditional stats.
but also. the vikings offense could give this defense some problems. the rams strengths on defense are in the secondary and the pass rush. so i could see them struggling against adrian peterson. the niners were absolutely depleted at running back, and that made a huge difference in holding them to 6 points.
Actually NFL.com has the Rams defense ranked 6th giving up 328.1 yds per game and Vikings ranked 7th at 334 yds per game.
November 1, 2015 at 10:17 pm in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33355
nittany ramModeratorThe Vikes are like mirror images of the Rams. Both teams have good defenses, good running games and inconsistent QB play. Hopefully the Rams’ more difficult schedule has them more battle-hardened though.
Should be interesting. I see the Vikings have been installed as 2.5 pt favorites. Keep in mind you get 3 pts for HFA so the Rams would actually be favored on a neutral site which of course means NO EXCUSES THE RAMS SHOULD WIN THIS GAME <kidding, kidding ;)>
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nittany ramModeratori think they have to. like i said on the gameday chat i prefer that it be through free agency. someone who can step in right away. obviously things will change between now and then, but there are guys like sanu and jeffery due for free agency next year. doesn’t even have to be someone of the caliber of a jeffery. just someone who is consistent.
Yeah I’d prefer a vet FA who is more ‘turn key’…ready to go/doesn’t need to master his craft.
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nittany ramModeratorcall me crazy, but i think the rams gotta chance next week. but they gotta slow ap down.
When’s the last time a
Ram team with a Winning Record
had a big game against
another team with a Winning Record?I think RFL’s point about the passing game
comes into play against the Vikes.
Against a ‘good team’ the Rams just
cant be one dimensional.
They’ll need some consistent play
from Foles and the Oline, one would think.
But the Vikes aint exactly the Patriots.
This one is winnable.w
vYeah, the Vikes have gotten to 5-2 by beating the likes of the Bears and Lions every week and they’ve been close-fought contests. Remember the 9ers destroyed the Vikinga in week one. I think the Rams should win this game, but it’s on the road and the Vikings do have some weapons. It will be interesting to see what happens.
nittany ramModeratorThat jersey looks like it would be a good high visibility top for a highway worker.
Yeah, they are dangerously close to moving into the putred fluorescent realm of the Seahawks. Please tell me they’re not going to reap fashion ideas from the Seahawks.
nittany ramModeratorI’m not really focused on the playoffs either but I do want them to win every game they SHOULD win – this being one of those games (the others being the Washington and Pittsburgh games as determined through overwhelming and unrefutable consensus).
And since this team has yet to demonstrate the ability to consistently throttle their inferiors, I worry.
nittany ramModeratorThis game actually worries me…the Rams being huge favorites at home over a reeling and decimated rival…
It reminds me of those movies where the hero is rescuing a hostage and when he arrives at the location where the hostage is being held he finds the door unlocked and no bad guys so he immediately suspects a trap….”I don’t like this. This is too easy…”
nittany ramModeratorAtta’ boy, JL. Keep at em’ for the blue and whites.
nittany ramModeratorOctober 30, 2015 at 9:52 am in reply to: Laurinaitis says maturing Rams are winning games they’re supposed to win #33224
nittany ramModeratorWell, this season the Rams have lost to two teams they should have beaten. They lost to Washington on the road and Pittsburgh at home.
I’m using a different approach than you. I am saying, in advance, could the Rams reasonably be favored.
Some say the Washington game fits that. I dunno yet. There’s a possibility that Washington is better than we assumed.
I don’t count the Pittsburgh game. No one gave the Rams a chance in that game.
Why did they lose either game? IMO because the offense is going to take time.
So to me, you’re saying that’s a game they COULD HAVE won. (GB too for that matter.) But to me, even that’s a nice glass half-full surprise. It was not a thing anyone thought in advance, BR going out or not. In the end Pitts. will be a team with a winning record and looking back, will not count as a team anyone would reasonably expect the Rams SHOULD HAVE won, though it was a nice revelation that they COULD HAVE won it.
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Well I counted the Steelers game as a game they should have won partly because I misremembered some things about the Steelers including thinking Bell was out for that game. However, I still think Rothlisberger’s injury made that game a ‘should win’ game but I’m not as married to that as I was.
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October 30, 2015 at 6:51 am in reply to: Laurinaitis says maturing Rams are winning games they’re supposed to win #33217
nittany ramModeratorWell, this season the Rams have lost to two teams they should have beaten. They lost to Washington on the road and Pittsburgh at home. Yes, the Pittsburgh game is a game they should have won. They had them at home and knocked Rothlisberger out of the game. They beat one team they should have (Browns). So this year so far they are 1-2 in games they should have won. So, what Laurinaitis says is true only if beating the Browns is the start of a trend. But that’s something nobody can know as of yet.
nittany ramModeratorThis is the same QB who led SF to consecutive playoff wins
over the Packers. And now he’s a mole-killer ?
How does that happen?Guesses…
In 2012 when he came on the scene the “read option” was new. Defenses have adapted since that time?
He hasn’t really developed since 2012. Take his first read away and he flounders?
Erosion of talent around him, especially on the o-line and defense?
New coaching staff not utilizing his strengths/trying to make him something he’s not? Too inaccurate to be a pocket passer?
October 28, 2015 at 10:09 pm in reply to: Another movie in the Rocky series? This one looks good though #33154
nittany ramModeratorWell….why not

Its kinda hard to totally screw up a sports movie,
and its also kinda hard to make a really good one.
Ya know. The plots are all prettymuch the same.w
vAre you saying “Gus” isn’t a great movie?
nittany ramModeratorLOL..the Fred Miller false start reference is hilarious..
nittany ramModerator7. San Francisco 49ers
2015 record: 2-5 (.578)
Top need: Quarterback
Other needs: Right tackle, wide receiver, defensive line
nittany ramModeratorI still can’t believe what the Dolphins did to that classic logo. It’s a crime against humanity and should be punishable as such.
nittany ramModeratorI think this is the game at which the 49ers will look back, and think, “Why did we even bother to suit up?’
Because they so thoroughly destroy the Rams that they realize they could have won the game wearing just their street clothes and Thom McCans?
nittany ramModeratorLMU93
Apart from the Rams’ division games I’d call that Vikings’ game a must-win to have a shot at a playoff berth. Long way to go but could be a factor come late December.
If you assume both Minnesota (vs. Chicago) and the Rams (vs. SF) win this weekend, then they’re both in wildcard contention.
A Rams win vs. the Vikings would have them both at 5-3 but the Rams would have not only the head-to-head tiebreaker but a 4-2 record in the NFC vs. 3-2 for Minnesota.
Minn is doing well but they lost to the only good team they’ve played so it’s hard to get an accurate read on them. Still, beating the Vikings on the road will be difficult.
nittany ramModeratorYeah, but wouldn’t how long he holds the ball be partially out of his control? If his first read is open he can throw quickly. But if his first read fails to get separation, then he has to move through his other reads until he finds someone who is open which means he has to hold the ball longer.
So we just can’t say “Foles should just throw quicker”, because when he throws isn’t entirely up to him.
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nittany ramModeratorFoles has given me nuthin’ I didn’t get from Hill.
Yeah, Foles could be better, but I think he’s noticeably better than Hill (and Clemmons and Davis). He at least can make throws down the field which Hill and the others couldn’t make. I think he’s going to improve as the year progresses. Part of the problem is, as usual, the Rams WR’s don’t scare anyone. In camp with Quick out Foles and Cook developed a rapport because Cook is all-world in practice. Problem is, in the games Cook’s not even all-township. Maybe Quick will start to get back to where he was before the injury which would give Foles another option in the passing game that defenses would have to respect. Right now the Rams passing game is pretty limited. It consists of bubble screens to Tavon, short crossing routes to Cook and the occasional deep throw to Britt and Bailey.
nittany ramModeratorKapernick trained under Warner this past offseason and actually looks worse than ever.
Could it be that Warner, like any respectable ex-Ram/Cardinal should do, purposely sabotaged the 49ers QB’s career?
nittany ramModeratorI am tired of the number of false starts, and holding calls we get.
The offsides penalties were maddening but I think that was an anomaly. The Rams weren’t committing as many penalties as previous year’s coming into this game. Now try to enjoy the win, Jack. 😎
nittany ramModeratorThe Rams defense is dominant. It may be the best in the league when you consider how little help they get from the offense. Think of what they would look like if they were paired with an offense that could stay on the field.
The offense struggles but usually manages to get a few big plays every game.
October 24, 2015 at 5:04 pm in reply to: as we prepare for the post-bye era: reporters preview the BROWNS game #32845
nittany ramModeratorthehammer
when the Rams rush the passer they win when they don’t they lose….which is bad news this week. Thomas will dominate Quinn, Schwartz who shut out Von Miller will dominate Hayes and Westbrook? Greco, Bitonia and Mack will easily shut down Donald who has had 5 straight games of declining pff scores…
Cleveland’s an elite 3rd down team that features rb Duke Johnson, 2nd best receiving rb in last years draft, and te Barnridge…vs our poor covering lber’s and safeties….Rams are 27th in the league in pd even with that pass rush. have a hard time seeing the Rams holding Cleveland under 28 points
IMO game comes down to how many points do the Rams offense score…better be more then 28. Shelton will manhandle Barnes. Rams moved Garrett Reynolds to lg to help the hapless Robinson. Kirksey has the speed to get outside vs Gurley. Nate Orchard is getting more snaps over Kruger….like the Rams lot of young talent.
lot of bad matchups.BUT a home game after a bye week…a test of the coaching staff..good coaches will dominate opponents after the bye..especially in a home game. Fisher moved Reynolds to lg. We will see what other changes they made. IMO this game IS the season. Fisher and the Rams have to win to have any credibility
going forward…for the sack of argument lets say the feckless Rams win 31-28 to keep fans dreams alive BUT the end of all pro Fisher threads if they lose
Sheesh…I didn’t realize Cleveland was such a juggernaut.
The Broncos managed to sack McCown 4 times, despite any success they had against Von Miller. If the Broncos could get to McCown, so can the Rams.
He talks about bad match-ups for the Rams, but the most glaring match-up I see is Gurley against the league’s 30th ranked rush defense.
I’m not saying the Rams can’t lose – we know all too well just how adept the Rams are at losing to teams they shouldn’t lose to – but there’s no way that at least on paper, most of the match-ups don’t favor the Rams. This is a game the Rams *should* win, not one they would be lucky to win as the hammer suggests.
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October 24, 2015 at 12:19 pm in reply to: catch percentage, drops, and other bad things from the dark side #32835
nittany ramModeratorEven if some guys do return to form getting another WR may not be a bad idea. As Cosell says somewhere below, the Rams receiving group is pretty average and they lack a true number one WR.
Except it looks better when Kendricks and Quick are performing, Cook gets his career average, and there’s pass protection.
(Career avg. on Cook isn’t good but he’s worse now. In 2013 it was 0.375 drops per game, in 2014 it was 0.3125 drops per game, in 2015 so far it’s 0.6 drops per game…his avg. has doubled over what it was the last 2 years.)
Cosell, remember, is not a Rams historian. Last year he didn’t complain about the receivers. This year, he doesn’t recall what he said last year about the Rams receivers, though. It’s a thing where recent impressions become more absolute.
I am not against getting a receiver, but I am interested in the fact that so many look worse than usual at the same time. Honestly, what are the odds that 4 WRs/TEs all show career worst problems all at the same time? What that suggests to me is that the problem may not be the players. There’s something else going on.
And I don’t have any idea what that could be, except that last time there was a drops epidemic involving several players was in 2011. New system and not feeling comfortable.
It may also be that catching passes from Foles in practices and in games isn’t the same, which hints at an adjustment period as they all get on the same page.
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You seem to be very invested in the Rams not getting better at receiver?
Why?
What do you stand to gain if the Rams’ passing game doesn’t improve?
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