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May 4, 2015 at 3:48 pm in reply to: now that the dust has settled a bit, how do you feel about this draft? #23998MackeyserModerator
I’m even more excited than before.
The harmonics on this draft are crazy.
And when you think about how the College game just isn’t feeding QBs to the Pros, the direction we’re heading, which seems counter now, is actually very forward thinking.
If the pendulum swings back and forth, then we’re just ahead of the pendulum swinging back… And the last two SB winners won in the playoffs with the kind of ball that we’re looking to take to the next level.
I could be more excited, but I need to be able to sleep and I can only take so much melatonin…
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MackeyserModeratorIf he’s cleared, there will be a damned land rush to get him…
Unfortunately, few teams will be able to offer him money based on the CBA, so it will be interesting how he and his team decide…
Again, looking around the league, I dunno of many better situations for him than the Rams… Running attack where he would could step in and start at ROT from Day 1. How many other franchises could offer that?
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MackeyserModeratorhe will also be able to pick his team, thus find the best situation to maximize his chances to start and potentially play for a decent team.
There aren’t many better situations for Collins than the Rams. They’re going all in on a rushing attack and have weapons and a young, veteran QB with a soph RB and an elite rookie RB coming in that will transform this team.
He’d be getting in on the ground floor.
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MackeyserModeratorIn the film room piece, they highlight a play where in the first game of the year against South Carolina, it’s a play action and Gurley stands up the DT on the left side. He gets backed up a few steps, but he holds long enough for the QB to complete a 30+ yard gain.
If Gurley doesn’t hold there, that DT creams his QB and it’s a sack or worse.
The fact that Gurley stones that 300+ lb DT was… impressive. Most…impressive.
So, the kid isn’t just aspirational with respect to pass pro. He already knows how to do it and knows how key it is to getting it done… which is WHY he KNOWS how key it is to getting it done in our offense on the Pro level.
Yet another reason why this kid at 20 years old is SPECIAL.
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MackeyserModeratorHe was caught from behind as a Sophomore, but he was battling an ankle.
As a Freshman? No.
Now? Not likely.
Actually, AP is a very good description for when he’s right. Strong enough to truck people and fast enough to run right by people…IN TRAFFIC.
It’s just amazing to me to watch a DB or LB set up the angle and think they’ve got him and because of his speed, the defender just ends up chasing him.
Just. Like. AP.
Plus, he’s very good at catching the ball and I LOVE that he understands that the FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS is learning Pass Pro.
This guy is going to be a super star in this league…
I know I’m banging the table hard for this guy, but I can’t help it…
He’s almost like Suh in this regard. The more tape I watch… the more I like about this kid…which if anyone knows me is unusual. It’s normally the other way around.
And don’t get me started about this kid’s stiff arm…
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MackeyserModeratorBad plant on the knee gets a lot of guys… no contact at all, just a bad plant, the knee goes too far and… snap.
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MackeyserModeratorWell, we have an opening and his agent HAS to know that.
Plus, we have an owner who isn’t afraid to spend money on UDFAs.
Not sure what the UDFA situation is because all of the bonus money may be gone (I think teams are limited to $50K total in the bonus pool) for just about every team, but they could structure incentives that would allow him to earn significantly more money based on starting a certain number of games, etc.
Not sure what the CBA allows for rookies. If anything, it may just be that the Rams have a starting job opening and with getting Gurley and being an ascending team with Nick Foles and maybe being in LA next year, it might be the way to go.
I know I’d sell the potential starting job. Lots of teams will only sell “the competition”. We can sell that, but with his talent it would make it awful hard to want or need to sign Barks and that opens up other FA opportunities…
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MackeyserModeratorLots of folks say “ignore the Pro Day”. I disagree with that.
The Pro Day is a day to see if a player has taken the initiative to clean up or improve anything, gotten healthy, or learned something new.
And Mannion’s mechanics really looked much better at the Pro Day. And that’s important. It means that he can be coached up regarding mechanics.
It doesn’t hurt that he looked like a trim Ben Roethlisberger and delivered the ball like him, too. Damn, the ball just came out effortlessly.
He’ll have to adjust to the speed of some of our guys… because Tavon, Gurley, Mason, Britt, Quick (if healthy) and Bailey are ALL faster than everyone he’s played with except Cooks. But that’s just an adjustment and he’s shown he can make those.
I’m very enthusiastic about this pick.
Then again, I think Foles has got to be LOVING this draft. Teams are going to have to absolutely dig trenches to stop our running game, so when Foles gets to throw, he should be able to be in a situation much closer to 2013 where the run set up the pass and he just lit up the league.
If Foles is even 85% of THAT guy and Mason and Gurley are 90% of what they should be… This Rams team will be just damned hard to beat (and they’ll be twice as tough as they were last year on O).
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MackeyserModeratorTeams still won’t sign him until they know his situation and have an idea when they’ll be able to get him into the building.
They’ll have to evaluate the logistics. And, of course, if there’s a chance he did it.
But yeah, if he’s clear and even if he might miss a bit of time, I’d jump on it…early.
He’s a 1st round talent who does what we want to do. Show some faith in the kid and watch him pay it back.
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MackeyserModeratorNo. They haven’t signed Barks, either.
it’s so early that we have a LOT of ways we can go with the OL.
I just hope that we don’t sign Blalock only to find he’s another Davin Joseph and one of the rookies would be better, but Fish doesn’t want to start a rook.
I like Jamon Brown, but he’d be converting to OG and I think he’s got TONS of promise, but he’s going to need some development. Wichmann has 50 starts, most at ROG, but still has a ROT type body and plays with a Coach Boo OT attitude.
So, I would be fine with them making more of an effort to sign Barks and going with
Robinson // Saffold // Jones // Wichmann // Barksdale
To start the season with Havenstein, Brown, Donnal, Reynolds and Washington as backups and YES, I would try to keep 10 OL this year, although it will probably be 9 which puts likely Donnal on the PS. And that’s okay. After a year, I think he replaces Washington.
I’m okay with the rookie depth other than Reynolds and Washington because Havenstein and Brown played so much in college. Havenstein wouldn’t be changing positions and Brown shouldn’t have an issue moving inside since Louisville does that Strong side/Weak side thing so essentially he got moved around a lot by virtue of their scheme, iirc.
But this OL could go in a LOT of ways… so many of which yield a very solid OL.
I’m very excited. The competition will be INTENSE, only made greater by the fact that we have a BEAST of a DL that will forge this OL into something special in OTAs and TC.
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May 3, 2015 at 7:12 pm in reply to: various podcasts, vids, & vid links… a lot of Snead, Gurley #23902MackeyserModeratorWith so many teams set up to defend the pass, teams often struggle to deal with a beefy run game.
Look at how teams struggle to defend Seattle’s O.
Well, if we essentially look to do it better by having a better OL, a back with the potential to be better than Lynch and a better passing QB than Wilson with better weapons than Seattle has, then we have the potential to be ridiculously scary as a team. Just flat out horrific to other teams because we’re going to be a 4th quarter nightmare to defend.
It’s not just Gurley, but also Foles.
If Foles is Faulk, then Gurley is Holt.
I just got a feeling that some alchemy is brewing this year… and having Mason with his ability to make people miss… man, we’re going to give teams fits.
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MackeyserModeratorWith his 4.9 40 and his measureables, there’s just NO WAY he’d have lasted until the 6th if he’d been at the Combine.
Frankly, I think he got past some scouting departments and guys were hoping he’d be a JAG they could get in the 7th or UDFA.
The Rams have to be ECSTATIC to be getting this guy this late.
I mean, just watch him against USC. He doesn’t just redirect the DTs and give ground as a lot of OGs do. He gets PUSH and he WALLS OFF.
That’s pro stuff. And to do it against Leonard Williams?
Yeah, this guy is our EJ Gaines of this draft and we’re going to LOVE this kid, but no one more than Gurley and Mason.
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MackeyserModeratorI think I like Wichmann best of all the OL picked.
I really like Havenstein, but he tends to “follow the crowd” at times. Wichmann looked like a Pro among amateurs when I watched him. Good set, good punch, GREAT wall off and he handled Leonard Williams well, a guy who went top 5.
Wouldn’t surprise me AT ALL if Wichmann beat out Jamon Brown for the RG spot and started. Guy’s got 50 starts under his belt and his pass pro is good, plus he gets to the second level quickly.
I think they want Barks back. I do.
Presuming they do get Barks back, I think they will have tremendous youth and depth in case of injury, but should have an OL ready to go and wreck the league come the first game.
Robinson // Saffold // Jones* // Wichmann // Barksdale * could be Jones, Barnes or Rhaney depending on a number of factors.
Now, THAT OL looks good to me. With the depth we’ll have based on who we drafted, I really feel good about our OL. Wouldn’t surprise me if Barks isn’t getting push that Havenstein steps in. Plus, LG is the easier of the two Guard spots (forget which guard was saying that, but one long time pro OG was saying that RG was significantly harder to play than LG and it’s not a matter of side and technique, but responsibilities), so I could see Jamon Brown stepping in and spelling Saffold if he gets dinged as he tends to do and us shifting to running a bit more to the left side behind the big slice of ham…lol.
Still… Wichmann looks like our steal of the draft. Damn. I mean, his set…his wall off… Gurley behind this guy will break huge runs because he seals like no guy we’ve had since Timmerman.
I’m saying, I think he’s gotta be a favorite for our RG spot. Coach Boo has got to LOVE this kid!
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MackeyserModeratorIt’ll be funny if the Jets running game takes off with Stacy and Richardson…
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MackeyserModeratorThis is the guy who could spell Hayes after this year. Very nice.
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MackeyserModeratorDoesn’t the blue mean sarcastic? lol
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MackeyserModeratorArizona Cards: A
The cards filled areas of need while acquiring more picks in a trade down. The problem is they didn’t address their biggest area of need and that was their defensive line. I know Darnell Dockett was injured last season and it showed. So, not replacing him isn’t about having confidence in who replaced him. That crew didn’t get it done when it counted. And as the NFC West reloads, that DL will be woefully undermanned for the pounding that’s coming.
St. Louis Rams: A+
Drafting the kind of talent that they are doing is getting to be a Rams tradition. Quinn, Donald…Gurley. These guys are transformative and it won’t be long before it hits a tipping point. We’ve already beaten Conference champs with backup QBs and that’s before adding Gurley. Remember, the Vikes had a 1000yd runner in Taylor when they drafted AP and were lampooned for it. No, Gurley is transformative and it will show. Soon. The OL the Rams drafted do a number of things. They maul. They do NOT hold. They do NOT make stupid penalties. All of these things hurt the Rams before. Couple that with an accurate QB who works best in a run oriented offense and the Rams have the makings of dynamite.
San Francisco 49ers: B+
Arik Armstead is very raw. So, while he played all over on Oregon’s DL, he only flashed big plays. Is he a potentially big talent at the 5 technique like guys like Richard Seymour and JJ Watt? Yes. Is he that guy in the next 2 years? No. The 49ers will need to be patient as he develops (they will be) and their fans will need to be patient (maybe not so much). With all the defensive turnover, it will be a culture shock when teams run on this D. And it’s coming. Tartt is a box safety with range. They’ve drafted those before with mixed results, so I dunno. Eli Harold is going to a good system for him and if Aldon Smith finally has his head on straight (not something to take for granted as the young man has had issues), then he could help them reform that formidable LB core. That might help their pass rush, but that interior still needs work.
Seattle Seahawks: D-
What the hell? A team that runs the ball 52% of the time ships out their Pro Bowl Center for a TE/WR who doesn’t block all that well? And who the Rams have a history of totally shutting down? So, Jimmy Graham with their 1st pick, and Frank Clark with their 2nd? Frank Clark? Are they looking to make a defense or a line up? Frank Clark isn’t just a reach here, he’s a head scratcher. He’d be a reach if he were squeaky clean, so with all the character stuff, spending all that draft capital on this guy makes no sense. There’s NO WAY any other team had him higher than a fourth. Just no way. So this was just Clark and his agent getting really lucky. And the rest of the NFC because the Seahawks aren’t restocking well. At all. Tyler Lockett isn’t a bad pick. He’ll be a really nice punt/kick returner and gadget guy, but they really needed a Georgia Tech type WR, meaning a WR who loves to block. Frankly, they miss Golden Tate more than they realize and they’ve never replaced him and Lockett isn’t an attempt to. Seattle actually had needs and they did nothing to restock. That’s the sort of hubris that has a team that’s been to 2 straight Super Bowls fall way back to the pack in a hurry.
So, did the Rams Close the Gap on the NFC West? I absolutely think they did.
1) They have a healthy starting QB who fits what they want to do and can do it.
2) They drafted the best RB to come out since AP and still have Tre Mason and Bennie Cunningham and Trey Watts to fill the role until Gurley is ready to step in.
3) They drafted the RIGHT type of OL for what they want to do now that Cigs is running the offense Fisher really wants to run. I think Cigs and Fisher are SO MUCH MORE on the same page than Schotty and Fish ever were. While I think Schotty and Fish agreed in principle, I think based on smaller clues here and there from things players and what Fish has said that Fisher and Cigs are sympatico. And that’s huge going forward. It’s already made a huge difference in the draft.
4) They got a developmental QB that if developed properly has all the tools to be someone special. Aaron Rodgers sat for awhile and I know comparing new guys to the best is dangerous, but I have a gut feeling that Mannion is “special” in that really good way. And Fisher is committed to developing him.
5) They hired Chris Weinke. They are committed to not only developing Mannion, whom they drafted, but also improving Foles and Keenum which is important. I think they saw that it is important to continue to develop the starting QB to be successful and that requires getting a guy to do just that.Now, closing the gap and PASSING teams are very different things. We can close the gap by a ton and still end up with a very similar record.
I mean we’ve got the 6th toughest schedule in the NFL based on last year’s winning percentage. We could improve everywhere and still be 7-9 or even improve to 8-8 which would be nice, but not what we’re all looking for.
Things still have to break in our favor a bit for us to actually get to 10-6 and beyond.
1) OL has to be healthy.
2) Entire team has to start fast. We can’t start that first 5 game stretch 1-4. It’s a tough stretch, but we really need to go 3-2
3) D needs to start out on fire. And I mean on fire…If just those 3 things happen and we are 3-2 or better, then this season looks really good to me going forward. And, frankly, I think we have a shot at that.
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MackeyserModeratorPrototypical Coach Boo OG. Converted OT who may simply be missing a little bit of speed to battle edge rushers, but has that nasty, has technique, is versatile and coachable.
Very hard not to really like this pick and, frankly, all of the OL picks.
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MackeyserModeratorno doubt.
And I like all of them.
That’s got to be a first…
I REALLY like the skill position picks and I like the OL picks. I think Coach Boo knows what he’s looking for and if those are the guys he wants then get them and lets go win the division…
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MackeyserModeratorI doubt it.
GRob // Jones // Rhaney // Saffold // Havenstein
I could see an OL like that.
They really liked Rhaney a LOT at Center and Jones was good at both C and OG, so it wouldn’t surprise me at all to see them kick Jones out to LOG and slot Rhaney into the starter’s role at C.
All that presumes Barks doesn’t come back and that we don’t sign Blalock.
But I’d be good with that OL, frankly with Brown as depth, learning. Especially since Saffold tends to get dinged and Brown is a predominantly Right side guy and Saffold played his best on the right side.
But, it’s so early, who knows?
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MackeyserModeratorWell, you can scratch Collins since he said he’d sit out the season rather than play his rookie contract on a 4th round or lower contract.
Considering if he went top 10, versus 4th round or below, we’re talking $10M dollars over the length of the contract, I can see the financial sense of getting this legal issues out of the way and working out hard and then re-entering the draft.
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MackeyserModeratorNo, Brown isn’t Robinson raw, but he’s not the athlete that Robinson is, either.
I really like him at RG. Almost good enough feet for ROT, good enough length and certainly nasty enough.
The combo of Brown and Havenstein fits this team to a T.
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MackeyserModeratorOkay. zn asked if he could have his delivery sped up.
I can explain one way that’s pretty easy. In the vid above, it’s easy to see that Mannion holds the ball a bit loose and low for his carriage. That leads to a throw that has a longer, looping windup.
What he needs to do is tighten the ball to his body and raise the ball to effectively “cock” it. This will significantly shorten his release, improve his ball security and quicken his release.
Both Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are pretty tall QBs with extraordinarily quick releases and they are very much a function of excellent mechanics.
Mannion doesn’t require much adjustment to have significantly better results.
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MackeyserModeratorDidn’t Runyon go to the Eagles. Is that same Runyon?
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May 2, 2015 at 12:19 am in reply to: IMO Rams will still be a balanced offense…so what is that? #23644MackeyserModeratorI think we’ll be closer to 52%… maybe a bit lower, depending on our success in the passing game on play action and the running game.
I KNOW if we are running and getting first downs and then scoring TDs (even if it’s with a pass), Fisher is going to stick with the Run. Keeps the D fresh, wears out their D and wins the battle with the clock.
But yeah, I think 53% would be our ceiling and that’s high considering our draft and emphasis.
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MackeyserModeratorFunny, I sorta expected a trade involving Stacy to yield us a 3rd… even if we threw in a 4th or 5th.
If the Rams REALLY want to screw Stacy, they keep him until final cuts and then just cut him…
The cruelest cut of all. He wouldn’t even be on a bench, then…
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MackeyserModeratorI went back and looked at a sprinkling of film.
Looked for specific things. Like drive blocking for Jamon Brown. Kick step for Havenstein, release for Mannion…
This draft has the potential to be ridiculously good. And I don’t mean A+ good. I mean, better than that good.
This has the potential to be a connect the dots draft in a win the Super Bowl kind of way. Better yet, because of how they are building this team, they could be building a winner and potential contender for a long time.
There are home runs and there are home runs…
This draft looks to be a home run that has a potential to be that different kind of home run…
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MackeyserModeratorPretty sure Havenstein and Jamon Brown addressed the OL in a BIG way.
Pun intended.
But it also did it well.
And…pun intended.
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May 1, 2015 at 11:29 pm in reply to: If they want Collins…better take him in the 2nd or 3rd round #23635MackeyserModeratorThis was teams saying LOUD AND CLEAR that after Aaron Hernandez that they aren’t F’n around with murder.
You have to be CLEAR to be drafted. PERIOD.
So La’el Collins won’t be drafted.
Moving on.
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May 1, 2015 at 11:24 pm in reply to: reactions to Havenstein Pick … + conference call transcript #23632MackeyserModeratorI like the pick. He’s an identity pick. He fits what we want to do, he doesn’t HOLD and he found a way to not allow sacks without holding.
I’m looking forward to the guys on the right side having to really battle these rookies because Coach Boo is gonna have them breathing fire to break these RBs loose…
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