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InvaderRamModeratorRookie sack leaders each season since 2016
well we’ll find out how much was due to playing next to ad. how much of a leap he can make in his sophomore season. i like the kid.
need bobby brown iii to step up too. lots of youth and potential still on that dline.
InvaderRamModeratori like darius robinson. and i don’t necessarily believe in replacing like for like especially when you have kobie turner.
InvaderRamModeratormohamed kamara and chris braswell also up there.
dallas turner notably not quite up there.
InvaderRamModeratoralso of note is that latu, verse, and trice are all up there.
in fact. of those players in that area only chase young has failed to make a big impact in the pros (outside of this year’s draft prospects obviously).
should be interesting.
InvaderRamModeratorNotable EDGE prospects career pressure rates and weighted pass rush grades. We’re in a pass protection epidemic but this draft class still has some juice.
well i notice chop robinson is near the top there… whatever the case i guess i should just trust that snead and company make the right decision on this. i’ve seen articles note that guys like danielle hunter and chandler jones had similarly low production in college and went on to flourish as pros. even micah parsons. actually chop has outproduced all three in sack totals although parsons missed his last year due to the pandemic.
https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2024/4/6/24122892/rams-draft-needs-edge-rusher-defense-chop-robinsin
thought this was a good article explaining the case for chop robinson.
InvaderRamModeratoroh no. that’s sad. I’ve been reading his posts for as long as i can remember. i agree. the man’s dedication to analyzing draft prospects was admirable. i’ll miss him. miss ag as well. the off-season won’t be the same without those two.
InvaderRamModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTST The difference drop off after the top-5 edge rushers to that next tier and the depth at DL is why the Rams have to prioritize EDGE over DL in round 1. Huge drop off between Chop Robinson, Latu, etc. and Trice, Kneeland compared to Murphy to Fiske, Orhorhoro, etc.
ya know. if they ended up getting latu in the first round and fiske or orhorhoro in the second i’d be over the moon.
i suspect though that latu will be gone by that point. maybe rams trade down and get robinson or verse? i don’t like either of those guys at 19.
InvaderRamModeratorWe can of course go back and forth on this forever, but I really think that the 1st pick will be front 7. In fact, I bet you a lifetime’s supply of monopoly money.
well i wouldn’t take that bet – monopoly money or not. because i would also bet that they take front seven in the first round. i’m just saying they shouldn’t be tied to it. i don’t think turner will be there. of the remaining edge rushers i think i only take latu. i’ve been converted. i don’t think verse or chop robinson are worth the 19th pick. if they trade down that’s a different story.
the dark horse and who i hope they get at 19 is darius robinson. it’d fit a definite need and he’s got the physical and mental makeup worthy of a 19th pick.
but i also wouldn’t rule out corner. i also wouldn’t rule out trading down and getting a guy like cooper at the end of the first round.
i also wouldn’t rule out an offensive tackle. not just because jackson is on a one year deal but you got havenstein on the other side.
but yeah. if i had to bet? it’d be front seven.
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InvaderRamModeratorwell that’s kinda what i mean. certainly front seven needs to be addressed but not necessarily with the first pick. it could be corner. it could even be oline. front seven could come in the second and third rounds.
or it could be trade down.
the more i see of latu the more i like him. looks so fluid. so athletic. maybe doesn’t test as well as the other edge prospects but looks more natural more instinctive maybe… him or chop robinson maybe. verse looks a little stiff to me. turner won’t be there at 19.
InvaderRamModeratorlahornsgear@Horns2016@Horns2016According to http://overthecap.com the Rams have 14.3 in cap space and after they pay their rookie class, they will 10.5 million in cap space.so does this mean another possible signing before training camp starts?
i still think a guy like calais campbell would be good on a one year deal. not even sure he’d be interested in coming here.
InvaderRamModeratorrams should just draft best player available. trying to replace like with like seems like a mistake to me. and there should be plenty of talent available as long as they don’t tie themselves to one position.
InvaderRamModeratorthis is from the following espn article.
https://africa.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39615406/ucla-lb-laiatu-latu-hearing-no-concerns-neck-history
“[Watkins] just looked at my scans and cleared me,” Latu said. “Because he’s had guys with the same, similar stuff, like Danielle Hunter and Peyton Manning, and he really just told me I would be able to play football.”
that does ease my concern. if there’s no issue with the neck draft him.
InvaderRamModeratorI’ve been doing more reading around on him. I am not so sure he checks out medically (?)
well reports are that he cleared medical exams at the combine. but who knows? he lost a year to the neck injury. they thought his career was over. he transferred to ucla and had two great years. otherwise he’s a surefire first rounder looks like.
it freaks me out a little bit but it also depends on what the doctors say. i could see him slipping. sounds like the most pro-ready edge rusher though.
InvaderRamModeratorwow. that makes me feel a little bit better about latu. i’m just worried about his neck injury he suffered, but if he checks out medically why not?
InvaderRamModeratori remember that play against ap. it’s funny because when i saw it i thought the same thing as donald. this kid could be special.
InvaderRamModeratorI wonder if he’s ready to go from day one? Will he be on a pitch count?
well that’s something that they must have discussed. cam akers had a new surgery – called the speedbridge surgery – which shortened the recovery time from 12 months to 5 months. i don’t know if white was a candidate for that type of surgery??? if that was the case, then i gotta think he’s had more than enough time.
but how good will be post surgery? who knows?
InvaderRamModeratoreven with the rams signing white, i might still draft defensive back in the first round if i were the rams. i could see cooper dejean fitting into this secondary. maybe at first as a safety and then moving to cornerback in a year when white is a free agent again?
InvaderRamModeratorcurious to see how he does on his pro day which will be in mid april sometime.
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InvaderRamModeratorapparently the rams’ team doctor is the one who did the achilles surgery on white. so the rams may have had some insight other teams did not.
InvaderRamModeratorjust saw the rams signed tre’davious white? boom or bust signing.
NFL Rumors: Tre'Davious White, Rams Agree to 1-Year, $8.5M Contract After Bills Exit
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InvaderRamModeratori don’t know. at first glance i don’t like this rule. i don’t want players to get hurt, but what are defenses supposed to do now?
InvaderRamModeratorrandom thought. wonder if the rams have any interest in bringing calais campbell or if he’d even be interested in playing for the rams. he played at high level last year. and played all 17 games.
InvaderRamModeratori’m still in disbelief that the rams were able to sign a player the caliber of curl at the price they were able to sign him. i really haven’t ever seen him play but what i read sounds incredible. sounds like another under the radar signing the rams seem to be known for lately.
InvaderRamModeratorTurner is going to get a good deal more attention this season, and I expect his effectiveness to drop.
yeah this is the problem. to what degree did the players around donald benefit from his presence. didn’t he play like an ungodly percentage of defensive snaps?
jones, turner, young, others will get more attention now. offenses don’t have to account for donald anymore. i’m not optimistic. but maybe they have another draft like they did last year. plus with a first round pick. so anything is possible.
InvaderRamModeratorthis is a real bummer. i think the rams are still in contention for making the playoffs but that’s it. superbowl i think is out the door. you’re not just trying to replace a hall of famer. you’re trying to replace a guy against whom all others at his position and likely even other positions will be compared. i do think it’s useless to try and debate best defensive player ever. there’s just too many variables and it’s too subjective an argument. but the fact that he’s even in that realm to have such a discussion.
how in the hell do you replace him? yeah with multiple players sure. but the odds of that in one year are nigh impossible. i’m happy for him. i certainly don’t want him walking away from the game physically and mentally a shell of himself. for that i am actually truly proud of him. it doesn’t surprise me either. i partially expected him to do something like this. he just strikes me as that type of guy. but it is a bummer from a selfish point of view.
InvaderRamModeratori don’t know if this has been posted but tre’davious white is visiting with the rams. when healthy he’s supposed to be a lockdown corner but the key word is healthy. he had a torn acl in 2021 and tore his achilles in 2023.
InvaderRamModeratori’ve said it before but i really like this signing. i don’t really know much about football, but he looks really aggressive on tape. and the things i’m reading about his versatility and intelligence. i don’t think he’ll be another ramsey. but he brings similar traits. and then if the rams drafted a guy like cooper dejean who also has similar traits. that’d be a helluva secondary.
InvaderRamModeratorwho’s the worst clunker in rams’ history under the les snead regime?
InvaderRamModeratorConspiracy theory on the net: AD will come back for the stretch drive like Eric Weddle. Me: Nah. That isn’t the way the man operates. He never took a shortcut in his life.
i do hope he changes his mind before the season starts. i won’t fully believe it until maybe 2 years post-retirement. haha. call it denial i guess.
InvaderRamModeratorthere’s certain guys who were just on a different level compared to their peers. lawrence taylor, jim brown, barry sanders… i always wondered what it would be like to have a guy like that on the rams who reached a kind of mythical status. there was marshall faulk, but half his career was spent with the colts. it never felt quite the same. i always would get a little envious when old rams heads would talk about deacon jones and merlin olsen. but that’s where i would place aaron donald. i got to witness one of the greatest nfl careers ever. at any position. and all of it was with the rams.
it went by way too fast.
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