sanbagger wrote:

Norv Turner is still lookin for work. Not sure his type of O would mesh with McVays, but I’m confident they could put their heads together and work a system out.

I also like that Norv is focused on balance in the O while I think McVay may be more of a pass oriented type of O guy. This team is gonna need Gurley as they transition to the new O and beyond IMO.

i agree with you about bringing in someone who is more balanced. i just don’t know that turner is that guy.

first i think that he is a coryell guy while mcvay is more of a west coast offense.

second i would think turner would want playcalling duties so unless he’s willing to give that up, it doesn’t look like a match.

i’m thinking a guy like callahan would work. don’t know that washington would be willing to give him up.

rams have talent. for as much griping as i’ve been doing, i do think this defense has talent. you don’t finish top 10 in total yards without talent. especially when you consider exactly how horrible this offense has been.

get a better offense should alleviate some problems. and by replacing boras with a more innovative offensive mind such as mcvay they should be able to do that. and hopefully gurley uses the offseason to get back on track. and hopefully goff is who he says he is. the offense should get better.

but i also am curious to see if phillips can squeeze a little more out of this defense than williams did. phillips has a reputation of getting more out of a defense than the previous regime. let’s see if he can do that here.

i don’t know if the fit is there, but i want musgrave. i don’t know what kind of offense he ran, but he did a good job with carr, and the raiders had a good running game.

• This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by InvaderRam.
• This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by InvaderRam.

would a tj watt be available in the second round?

if i’m the rams, i take the approach that snead always talks about. build dominant units. fortify that front seven. watt and quinn on each side with donald at the 3 technique?

ooh boy.

i’m salivating already.

i found this interesting. apparently the dolphins just blocked the rams from hiring chris foerster as offensive coordinator. mcvay worked with him at washington when the shanahan’s were in charge. foerster was the oline coach during that time. does this mean he’d want a zone blocking scheme???

i hope so. maybe i’m reading too much into it. but i hope i’m reading that right.

i liked gurley in the zone blocking scheme.

nittany ram wrote:

I think Donald is much more valuable on the D-line. I would be leary of moving perhaps the best DT of his generation to another position.

no you’re right.

just thinking out loud.

i keep donald as the weak side end/3 technique.

phillips started out as a dline coach.

he coached ware and watt. they’ve had career years under him.

i just wonder what kind of plans he’d have for a freakish athlete like donald.

Agamemnon wrote:

If you believe Donald and Quinn are athletic enough to play LB in a 34 and you don’t think that will hurt their production, then you can do a line up like this. Barron is sort of the odd man out. You have enough on the DL and you have backups there too. LBer starts to look thin.

Or, Wade coaches a 43 until we find more LBers.

i always wondered about donald as a middle linebacker. he’d be dominant.

Agamemnon wrote:

This thread is about speculation, so speculate.

there’s no doubt in my mind they need to at least add one more defensive end and one more linebacker to make this front 7 work. here’s some more speculation. in the article i posted above, here’s this little blurb about ware in a 3-4 vs a 4-3.

Ware at his best

DeMarcus Ware played eight seasons in the 3-4 defense in Dallas, including 3 1/2 with Wade Phillips as his head coach. Following two seasons in the 4-3, he has switched back to the 3-4 with Phillips as his defensive coordinator in Denver. Here’s how he’s fared in the two defenses over the years.

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Defense (Seasons) Games Tackles/G Sacks/G
3-4 (2005-12, ’15) 129 4.2 0.9
4-3 (2013-14) 29 2.8 0.5

just more evidence in my mind that this switch could benefit quinn greatly.

can josh forrest play mike? that’s the key for me. if he can, my guess is phillips can make forrest and ogletree work. he can make it more than work.

oh wait. the key also is if quinn can play weakside linebacker. according to phillips that’s where the sack production will come from.

you listen to demarcus ware gush about wade. i think he could be great for both quinn and donald.

Agamemnon wrote:

“If you’re talking schematics and you’re talking about the power running game, the gap blocking aspects of the power running game come into play,” Callahan said. “I think what Coach [Sean] McVay has brought here and what he’s done here has been very positive. We’re trying to augment what we’re doing with the gap game – which we’re going to evolve.”

hmmm… under mcvay washington was primarily a power blocking running attack. that doesn’t seem to fit an oline who basically sucked ass in a power blocking scheme and did better in a zone blocking scheme.

well. reading about mcvay his strong points include his ability to connect with people. that’s an ability that vermeil excelled at. maybe shanahan is strong in x’s and o’s but not with the ability to form bonds. that’d be huge as a head coach i would think.

that’s also something fisher excelled at. players are fiercely loyal to him. i get that sense with mcvay.

got this from the herd.

zn wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

who does have last say?

i would guess snead?

You mean now? We don’t know yet.

Under Fisher? It was Fisher.

i mean now. i can’t imagine they give a 30 year old rookie head coach final say on personnel.

zn wrote:

Phillips has been a head coach or DC for a combined 34 years.

that’s longer than mcvay’s been breathing.

i just think this is a bad hire.

i think this amounts to demoff on a phone call with gruden with gruden telling demoff to hire this kid. and then demoff reading the si article on mcvay.

i don’t think for a second that demoff has any ability to evaluate a coach on his own.

i also worry that they missed out on a real opportunity to evaluate shanahan. but maybe they couldn’t wait. maybe they know something i don’t.

i do think shanahan should have been the first guy they interviewed.

this hiring is too risky.