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InvaderRamModeratori also want to clarify one thing about watkins’ injury history. i just read on turf show times. there was some bit about watkins’ having “season ending injury after season ending injury”.
let me clarify. he’s NEVER had a season ending injury.
his rookie year he played all 16 games. his second year. he had some injuries at the beginning involving the calf and ankle. and he had a little bit of a meltdown on the internet. but he recovered. and he finished strong that season. he was dominant. then before his third season even started, he broke a bone in his foot. had surgery. tried to come back. had a setback and was placed on injured reserve. but he came back to finish the season. he’s finished ALL THREE SEASONS he’s played. i think that’s important to note.
InvaderRamModeratori should also add that jones’ stats in 2013 came before the surgery.
watkins’ stats in 2016 came AFTER the surgery. i think that makes a little bit of difference.
InvaderRamModeratorat best he’s the fourth receiver. at best. and mcvay likes tight ends. which puts him further down the pecking order. he’ll be around for at least this season. he can still do damage as a returner. and maybe can run the ball some. rams are being supportive of him, but that trade said pretty much everything.
August 12, 2017 at 8:32 am in reply to: Sammy Watkins highlights/scouting reports etc. thread #72316
InvaderRamModeratori don’t think he’s on par with a beckham. i think he’s right below that. which is good. won’t have to pay top dollar to keep him.
but i think more importantly he complements the other guys well. he’ll open things up for the other receivers.
i’ve said it before, but i think ultimately, it’s going to be watkins and kupp. i like woods, but i think the rams have the potential for 2 1000 yards receivers in watkins and kupp. not this season. but for the future.
either way. all three should be getting lots of looks this season and hopefully for a lot longer. and that’s not even considering the tight end group which also has lots of potential.
August 11, 2017 at 10:01 pm in reply to: Sammy Watkins highlights/scouting reports etc. thread #72296
InvaderRamModeratorwatkins played last night for the bills. had 4 catches for 39 yards. i think i read that he had 3 alone in the first series. appears to be healthy and full go so far in preseason.
August 11, 2017 at 9:16 pm in reply to: EPISODE 33 – Emergency pod! Sammy Watkins is an L.A. Ram! #72292
InvaderRamModeratorso at washington, mcvay had garcon, jackson, and reed.
he had other receivers, but i think that was his core.
now with the rams, he has watkins, woods, and everett.
right now it’s all just potential though with his second group. that first group has done it. and done it consistently. but on paper. man. they compare pretty favorably i would think. and that’s not even including kupp who i think ultimately should take on that garcon-type role. and i think he’ll be better than garcon honestly.
and oh yeah. they got gurley in the backfield.
and ryan asks in the podcast if this puts pressure on goff. yeah it does. if he can’t show anything, i expect the rams to move on from him quickly.
InvaderRamModeratori think we’re just fine at left tackle. i know he’s old. but he’s been pretty productive the past couple years and no injuries of note during that time. i’m not worried there.
i am worried about center. a little bit. he hasn’t played much at all the past 2 years. so i think there’s legitimate reason to worry there.
InvaderRamModeratoranother thing. this guy was playing in the run heavy buffalo offense. we were making arguments that woods would see a surge in production playing in the mcvay offense. i would have to say the same should apply to watkins. i’m liking this gamble.
which means it probably will flop.
August 11, 2017 at 7:17 pm in reply to: Sammy Watkins highlights/scouting reports etc. thread #72281
InvaderRamModeratorDisplaying his big-play capability, Watkins finished No. 3 with seven receptions of at least 40 yards, and he had 18 receptions of at least 20 yards. He also ended the year No. 6 in yards per reception at 17.5.
that’s legit. that was in 2015. desean averaged 19 yards per reception under mcvay.
also. and i think this is important. watkins is ONLY 1 DAY OLDER than kupp.
InvaderRamModeratorA lot of people are saying Watkins means Tavon is gone. That’s probably true, after this year (they can’t lose him this year because it would mean a 5 M cap hit). There’s a big however coming, but, my take all along was that it looked like McVay wanted Tavon to be DeSean west, and that that wasn’t going to work–Tavon is not a pure receiver in that mold.
But now? Tavon, for one year anyway, doesn’t have to be DeSean west. They have that now in Watkins. He can be Tavon 2015–back when he was a multiple hybrid player, not a pure receiver.
i wasn’t thinking this year. and i believe snead when he says he isn’t up for a trade ONLY because watkins hasn’t even signed a long term contract. IF watkins signs long-term, then tavon is gone. by trade or by cut.
and yeah. i immediately thought watkins plays the desean role. the explosive downfield threat. but more than that he could be the number one receiver desean isn’t. he brings more to the table than a desean in my opinion. IF he’s healthy.
and i think he can get back to being healthy. dez bryant had 2 foot surgeries i believe, and he came back. i think watkins can too.
also. and not trying to think too far into the future. let’s say goff is a bust. well next year they sign cousins, and he’s got a ready made supporting cast waiting for him in los angeles. possibly as good as what he had in washington.
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InvaderRamModeratorif goff is legit, this could be one helluvanoffense.
i think kupp is legit. watkins, woods, and kupp could be scary.
i like the mix they have at tight end. i think hemingway could surprise.
and gurley. i hope last year was an aberration.
InvaderRamModeratorI dont see why people think this means Tavon is a goner. What if Watkins and Woods and Kupp and Gurley and the TE’s open up a lot of SPACE for Tavon to work in?
Ay, what then?
We might see some electifying stuff.
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vyou got watkins, woods, kupp, and then austin. i just don’t see a team paying him that much money to be the fourth receiver.
i like the watkins pick by the way. he could be a stud receiver if healthy. stud!
InvaderRamModeratorso i guess watkins is not just a number one, but he’ll be the guy to go deep like a desean jackson?
also tavon’s days are numbered. i don’t care what they say. they need to trade him.
i also hope he can stay healthy, and they sign him to a long term contract.
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InvaderRamModeratori’m not gonna feel comfortable with this team until 10 years and multiple superbowls from now.
InvaderRamModeratorya know. not that it matters. but he plays the most important position on the nation’s most popular sport. in the nation’s second largest market.
if he can achieve success, he’ll be la’s hottest athlete since kobe. unless kershaw can win a world series. which he possibly could. the dodgers are playing historically well this year. well there’s trout too. but he doesn’t really play in los angeles.
not that it matters.
InvaderRamModeratorthe sense i get is this practice is going much better the second time around.
InvaderRamModeratorwell i feel that if brown was really taking off at the new position, mcvay wouldn’t feel the need to try different combinations. i still want to see who starts this saturday and where.
InvaderRamModerator11 on 11 just started Havenstien at RT Brown at RG
not quite sure what to make of it. i’m guessing if havenstein starts this saturday it’s more than just experimenting.
InvaderRamModeratorWell depends on what you mean by prove it. Show progress and the ability to develop? Win a lot? Either way you would think McVay knows what he’s looking for.
i think the ability to prove he can be a starting qb.
specifically i have no idea. but yeah. i’m sure mcvay knows. and he’ll be around him every day. i think he’ll know by the end of the year.
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InvaderRamModeratorThat said if it becomes clear Goff can’t handle the job I couldn’t take another Tony Banks length tryout .
i have no doubt mcvay will pull goff if it’s clear he isn’t the guy. and it won’t take long.
my bet is he’s got one season to prove it. and if he isn’t rams go after cousins if he’s available.
August 6, 2017 at 10:53 am in reply to: Rams, Chargers meet for first neighborly practice Saturday #71968
InvaderRamModeratorTodd Gurley Touchdown Run
Check out this touchdown run by Todd Gurley during the Rams’ joint practice with the Chargers at StubHub Center.
http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Todd_Gurley_Touchdown_Run/838d2bda-ea0f-435c-95b8-6b10ec0e4e04
reports on gurley seem to be unanimously positive including those from mcvay himself.
goff still seems to be a work in progress although that isn’t particularly surprising.
excited about gurley though.
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InvaderRamModeratorUnder McVay, the Redskins’ offense excelled at throwing the football but ranked 20th in the NFL in rushing yards per attempt in 2015 and 2016. In that two-year stretch, however, McVay’s offensive line coach Aaron Kromer oversaw a Bills unit that helped Buffalo lead the NFL in rushing in back-to-back seasons.
yeah. one key is how mcvay and kromer can find a way to blend in the running game with the passing game. that should be interesting.
August 6, 2017 at 1:26 am in reply to: Rams, Chargers meet for first neighborly practice Saturday #71952
InvaderRamModeratori sometimes have visions that gurley goes back to being that running back we saw the first half of his rookie season. kupp wins offensive rookie of the year. woods finally gets to shine in a passing oriented offense. and higbee and everett provide goff with big targets downfield and in the red zone.
i can’t wait until next saturday. it’ll be one of the best saturdays i’ve had in months.
August 5, 2017 at 11:45 pm in reply to: Evaluating the Rams crowded WR room after signing KD Cannon #71942
InvaderRamModeratoryeah a lot of it depends on injuries and who is available. and it looks like capwise it’s not possible right now.
i did read that they are using him like fisher used him, but i actually take that as a negative. i take it that he’s not adapting well to the mcvay offense and what he requires of tavon with mcvay just trying to make whatever use he can out of him. but if guys like coop and thomas can adapt i see tavon being phased out this year.
of course that depends on if these guys can even play so a lot of things have to happen to get to a point where the rams are willing to cut tavon.
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August 5, 2017 at 10:29 pm in reply to: Evaluating the Rams crowded WR room after signing KD Cannon #71936
InvaderRamModeratorthis might be just me projecting. but the rams will be looking for any excuse to cut tavon when possible. he’s not a mcvay guy, and they’re probably thinking the money could be used elsewhere. austin will have to pretty much make it impossible for the rams to cut him.
with what i’ve been reading about coop (pharoh that is). and the reports are generally positive from what i can tell. i just don’t see tavon having a role. again. unless he can play lights out.
as it is i see woods and kupp as the outside guys (similar to garcon and jackson). and then i see coop in a crowder type slot receiver role.
of course there isn’t a jackson type deep threat among those three. but that’s where thomas would come in.
August 5, 2017 at 10:13 pm in reply to: Rams, Chargers meet for first neighborly practice Saturday #71935
InvaderRamModeratorthis is going to be a long week. shoot. this is going to be a long 5 weeks!
August 5, 2017 at 10:07 pm in reply to: Rams, Chargers meet for first neighborly practice Saturday #71933
InvaderRamModeratorGood job, collecting all the tweets, zn.
yes. great job. nice reading the tweets and then seeing it happen on the videos. great stuff.
InvaderRamModeratori do agree about the toughness. i think goff has it. i think the problem is processing the information in front of him. that’s just being overwhelmed. hopefully, mcvay simplifies that for him. but yeah. i think the kid is tough enough.
InvaderRamModeratorwell. we’ll find out. by the end of the season, we’ll have a decent idea of what the rams have at qb. or at least mcvay will.
August 5, 2017 at 9:34 pm in reply to: Rams, Chargers meet for first neighborly practice Saturday #71927
InvaderRamModeratorsounds like gurley is doing good things. goff too but still lots to work on.
it’s only one clip, but whitworth looks like he’s in total command. i hope he’s got three years left in him.
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