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April 15, 2016 at 10:09 pm in reply to: Goff or Wentz? Wentz or Goff? Der Wentz oder Goff entscheidung #42041canadaramParticipant
Rams’ top-secret QB tour bred blockbuster trade for No. 1 pick
Jeff Fisher and Les Snead arrived in Berkeley on a cloudy February morning, and as soon as quarterback Jared Goff began his private workout at California Memorial Stadium — as if on cue — the rain came pouring down like the Andy Dufresne escape scene in “Shawshank Redemption.”By the end of the former Cal star’s sublime throwing session, all had become clear for the two men deciding the immediate fate of the newly rechristened Los Angeles Rams. And it was that clarity of purpose which, two months later, would trigger the blockbuster trade that shook up the 2016 draft and brought some serious gridiron glitz to Tinseltown.
Having flown to Northern California straight from Fargo, North Dakota — where they’d watched the 2016 draft’s other top quarterbacking prospect, ex-North Dakota State passer Carson Wentz, perform impressively in a similar session — Fisher, the Rams’ veteran head coach, and Snead, the team’s fifth-year general manager, were completing the second and final stop of their under-the-radar, Find a Franchise Quarterback Tour.
They weren’t prepared for the inclement weather, but they weren’t complaining, either. After all, one of the few raps against Goff was his perceived inability to throw a wet ball, a stigma that began early in his freshman season in 2013, when he performed so miserably on a rainy afternoon at Oregon that he was pulled from the game in the first quarter.
Even as Fisher vainly attempted to shield the footballs under his light jacket before handing them to Goff, he understood the beauty of the moment: If throwing a slippery ball were still a legitimate weakness, Goff would surely be exposed.
Instead, as if channeling the artistry of dreadlocked Cal alum Adam Duritz, Goff summoned a performance so tremendous, he might as well have crooned, “I am the Rain King!”
Goff, according to one witness, flat out “ripped it” while throwing to former Cal teammates Trevor Davis and Maurice Harris. “The ball never hit the ground,” said another person who attended the session.
“It was a great opportunity to see him throw a wet ball,” Fisher recalled Thursday morning, a couple of hours after the announcement of a pricey trade with the Tennessee Titans that put the Rams on the clock with the No. 1 overall pick. “We were just going through the process, and he made all the throws, and he was outstanding.”
Whether the Rams use the No. 1 overall selection on Goff, as I believe they will, or call Wentz to the podium in Chicago on April 28, Fisher and Snead already have made one thing obvious: After methodically building a talented defense, a process fueled by the bounty they acquired in their own blockbuster pre-draft trade four years ago, and last year bolstering the running game by selecting star halfback Todd Gurley and a slew of offensive linemen, the Rams can no longer get by with mediocrity at the game’s pivotal position.
They weren’t prepared for the inclement weather, but they weren’t complaining, either. After all, one of the few raps against Goff was his perceived inability to throw a wet ball, a stigma that began early in his freshman season in 2013, when he performed so miserably on a rainy afternoon at Oregon that he was pulled from the game in the first quarter.
Even as Fisher vainly attempted to shield the footballs under his light jacket before handing them to Goff, he understood the beauty of the moment: If throwing a slippery ball were still a legitimate weakness, Goff would surely be exposed.
Instead, as if channeling the artistry of dreadlocked Cal alum Adam Duritz, Goff summoned a performance so tremendous, he might as well have crooned, “I am the Rain King!”
Goff, according to one witness, flat out “ripped it” while throwing to former Cal teammates Trevor Davis and Maurice Harris. “The ball never hit the ground,” said another person who attended the session.
“It was a great opportunity to see him throw a wet ball,” Fisher recalled Thursday morning, a couple of hours after the announcement of a pricey trade with the Tennessee Titans that put the Rams on the clock with the No. 1 overall pick. “We were just going through the process, and he made all the throws, and he was outstanding.”
Whether the Rams use the No. 1 overall selection on Goff, as I believe they will, or call Wentz to the podium in Chicago on April 28, Fisher and Snead already have made one thing obvious: After methodically building a talented defense, a process fueled by the bounty they acquired in their own blockbuster pre-draft trade four years ago, and last year bolstering the running game by selecting star halfback Todd Gurley and a slew of offensive linemen, the Rams can no longer get by with mediocrity at the game’s pivotal position
Speaking of which: With records of 7-8-1, 7-9, 6-10 and 7-9 during their four years in St. Louis, the newly relocated coach and GM understand that they’ll have to step up it up to stay employed in Southern California beyond this season.
So Fisher and Snead, in a strategy they employed as far back as their first season in St. Louis, hit the road and got an up-close-and-personal view of what was out there. And when they loved what they saw in Fargo and Berkeley, they set their sights on the top of the draft.
With the 15th overall selection, Fisher and Snead knew it wouldn’t be easy. Not since 1984 had a team (the Patriots, who came up from 16th to land receiver Irving Fryar) moved up so far to land the first pick. But the Rams had an important chip: an extra second-round pick in 2016, obtained in last year’s trade with the Eagles that sent oft-injured incumbent quarterback Sam Bradford to Philly for Nick Foles. And while Foles’ stint as the Rams’ starting quarterback had been short and inglorious — ultimately, he was supplanted by Case Keenum, who technically still resides atop the L.A. depth chart — that extra second-rounder turned out to be a godsend.
As fate would have it, the Rams’ ownership of that pick — and the Eagles’ lack thereof — may have allowed L.A. to outjockey the Eagles for the Titans’ top pick. The Eagles, according to sources, have a high degree of interest in both quarterbacks, particularly Goff, and were also engaged in talks to trade up in the draft.
Meanwhile the Browns, who hold the No. 2 overall selection, may lose out on the quarterback they covet most — and, in response, might try to trade down to a team interested in acquiring the passer the Rams pass over.
Again, this intriguing scenario is layered with the seeds of past developments: Last March, before trading Bradford to the Eagles, the Rams — according to a high-ranking team source — believed they had a deal in place to send him to Cleveland for a first-round pick, but the Browns backed out the following morning.
Throw in the fact that Fisher closed the deal for the first overall pick with the franchise that employed him as head coach for 17 seasons, and there have been a whole lot of dramatic arcs to this story. And make no mistake: He and Snead are intent on milking the drama for all its worth between now and draft night, with organizational sources sending out conflicting reports of which quarterback the Rams prefer to numerous reporters, a process likely to continue right up until the moment when the Rams are officially on the clock.
Regardless of the noise, Fisher and Snead will get their man — and their immediate futures will likely depend on the young quarterback’s aptitude. For what it’s worth, their bosses (Rams owner Stan Kroenke and COO Kevin Demoff) were absolutely on board with the trade. As one high-ranking Rams official put it in an internal conversation, “We can go with Case Keenum and [second-year backup] Sean Mannion, and if everything breaks right, we can probably be a wild-card team. But we’re not chasing wild cards. We want to go after championships.”
To get to that level, a young man will have to guide them — and something Fisher and Snead saw in Fargo and/or Berkeley two months ago convinced them that there’s at least one quarterback in this draft who can transform their team in a hurry.
“We’re not looking over our shoulders here,” Fisher told me Thursday. “We’re planning for the future, and we’re building this team, and this is the next step. Last year we drafted Todd Gurley, and we drafted [four] offensive linemen. This year, we know what we want, and we’re going after it.”
Rain or shine.
Follow Michael Silver on Twitter @MikeSilver.
April 15, 2016 at 9:58 pm in reply to: Clayton says the move by the Rams was out of desperation #42040canadaramParticipantDuh
canadaramParticipantThis is a shrewd move by Fisher: draft a quarterback No. 1 overall, and even if the dude bombs out, he’ll still provide value by serving as Fisher’s human shield, to protect the coach from an overdue firing.
Fisher gets to buy time.
Neither Winston nor Mariota bought any time for their respective head coaches last season.
canadaramParticipantLove the idea of it regardless of what they gave up.
Won’t know if I truly love it until I watch the number one pick play.
I am on Team Wentz, BTW.
canadaramParticipantI assume you’re joking?
Cause there are some who did take the initial announcement that way.Yes. Joking… your second sentence explains why.
canadaramParticipantI’m not sure if I’m correct about this, but it seems as though Fisher takes a RB at some point in every draft. So there is a chance that Fisher would be looking at RB at some point in this draft regardless of Mason’s choices. However, I wonder what Fisher thinks of Malcolm Brown? Does he like him enough not to take a RB on draft weekend? I really like Cunningham, but I’m not thrilled with the idea of having only he and Brown backing up Gurley.
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….GM Les Snead: Keenum will take the 1st snap in OTA’s. Mannion/Foles will compete. Nothing will be settled until we get thru draft.I can’t believe that Snead just declared Keenum as the Rams starting QB for the next 15 years.
April 1, 2016 at 8:39 pm in reply to: vid: La Canfora not buying that Rams don't need to draft qb or that Eagles do #41308canadaramParticipantI didn’t realize that the Rams were pretending that they don’t need a QB.
April 1, 2016 at 1:10 pm in reply to: informal poll–for or against trading up? trading down? staying put? #41305canadaramParticipantIf they think one of the main 3 QBs is worth it, then I am for a trade up. I don’t pretend to know if either Wentz, Lynch or Goff will be worth the investment of picks required in a trade up, but I believe that the Rams need to address the position. I love draft weekend and always want the Rams to have as many picks as possible, and I agree with those who argue that the Rams have several needs that could be addressed in this draft, but this seems like a crucial juncture for the Rams and the QB position.
canadaramParticipantThis MMQB article by Robert Klemko is good.
The Coaching Perspective of the Draft’s Top Quarterbacks
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/03/23/nfl-draft-carson-wentz-jared-goff-paxton-lynch
canadaramParticipantThis move does nothing to change my opinion that the Browns are going QB with their first pick.
canadaramParticipantI’m glad. Harkey was awesome in the trenches
two years ago. He was invisible last year,
but i would guess he had nagging injuries.w
vYeah, injuries and Foles struggles probably didn’t help Harkey last year. Not that Harkey is Jason Witten, but he can contribute more in the passing game. I’m a Harkey fan, so I hope he can bounce back.
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March 12, 2016 at 12:18 pm in reply to: Rams called on some fancy-dancin in their contract language #40500canadaramParticipantI don’t pretend to understand such things, but this sounds slimy.
canadaramParticipantIf Quick sees all that money I’m guessing it’s because he had a good season. At least this offseason he can focus on football stuff and not rehabbing his badly damaged shoulder. Whom ever starts at QB will have some time to get used to Quick and vice versa. It’s gotta be a better season for him in 2016. I mean it can’t be worse than 2015, can it?
canadaramParticipantLike any draft guy Drew Boylhart has his share of misses (ex. Tebow). He also gets some right once in a while (ex. TY Hilton, Jason Smith). With that qualifier out of the way, Boylhart likes Paxton Lynch. The Huddle Report is no longer a pay site, BTW.
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/archive/2016profiles/Paxton.Lynch.htm
canadaramParticipantWestbrooks seemed spend more time on the interior DL in 2015 than he did as a rookie. At least that’s how it seemed to me, maybe I’m wrong about that. Anyway, I wonder if he will be given an opportunity to be a a fixture at LE now.
canadaramParticipantNot unless we move the city to Canada.
Yes.
After the first, and seemingly last, attempt to bring the CFL to the US failed the CFL won’t be doing that again anytime soon.
January 16, 2016 at 11:22 am in reply to: now and then I post pictures of Portland ME where I live #37424canadaramParticipantBeautiful. My sister-in-law coached rowing there a few years back. She was quite fond of the area.
canadaramParticipantI like the way this board works
This board kicks ass. The absence of ego is what I love.
As far as the relocation goes I still don’t like the feeling that it gives me. Although I have no way of knowing what went on behind the scenes hearing Demoff and Kronke talk about how long they’ve been working on it just makes me feel worse for the people of St Louis. Clearly they didn’t just start thinking about it last month or last year year. I realize that it would be a long time in the planning and execution, so I shouldn’t be surprised. Even so it still rattled me a bit to hear them speak about it at the introductory PC in LA. Hollywood could probably make a decent movie about the sliminess that went on during this process.
All that said, I fell in love with the helmets as an 8 year old in 1976, so my fandom for the on-the-field Rams won’t change. I just don’t have any warm feelings of sentiment about the move.
canadaramParticipantI hate 4 PM EST games by the way.
canadaramParticipantI’m sick for the fans from St Louis and San Diego.
January 11, 2016 at 2:59 pm in reply to: Prisco: Bengals' implosion straight out of the handbook on football stupidity #36979canadaramParticipantWhat if it ends like last season with the Patriots winning the super bowl?
Half way through the first quarter of last year’s Super Bowl, I realized that I wanted the Seahawks to lose that game. I got exactly what I wanted. I don’t remember anything else about the result.
January 11, 2016 at 12:59 pm in reply to: Prisco: Bengals' implosion straight out of the handbook on football stupidity #36973canadaramParticipantIf the Rams can’t be involved in the playoffs, then I just want to see lots of disgrace and humiliation
Yes, yes a million times yes.
canadaramParticipantHavenstein had a solid year. That pick was panned, or at least questioned by most of the experts that I read or listened to after the draft. Having a reliable, mainstay type of guy at RT would be nice. Since Ryan Tucker departed the RT position has had a Spinal Tap drummer feel to it.
canadaramParticipantI think some legitimate competition is needed, whatever that means. That said, isn’t GZ a FA this year? Can the Rams re-sign him and then cut him in August if they find a better option? I would just like to see more than a camp leg brought in this year.
canadaramParticipantWhatever is decided I just hope that it’s finalized quickly. For the sake of the nice people that I’ve met from St. Louis I would like to see the Rams remain in their current home. Ultimately I just need horns on the helmets and I’ll be happy.
canadaramParticipantAfter this game 49er players and gold miners everywhere will weep uncontrollably and soil themselves every Sunday afternoon for the rest of eternity.
December 26, 2015 at 9:59 am in reply to: is Seattle facing the most demoralizing loss in its history? #36067canadaramParticipantAfter tomorrow both Seahawks players and actual ospreys will weep uncontrollably and soil themselves on every Sunday for all of eternity.
December 21, 2015 at 5:09 pm in reply to: Report: Patriots to sign veteran running back Steven Jackson today #35887canadaramParticipantWow. I bet it will feel weird to cheer for the Patriots.
canadaramParticipantAaron Donald — the one that got away — haunts Lions (article from Detroit Free Press)
Jeff Seidel
ST. LOUIS – This was cruel and unusual punishment.
It’s one thing that the St. Louis Rams beat the Detroit Lions on Sunday, 21-14.
But how they did it was especially cruel for fans.
Because Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald just destroyed the Lions. He turned into a one-man wrecking crew who hit quarterback Matthew Stafford six times and finished with three sacks.
Remember, the Lions could have drafted Donald in 2014 — as if you could ever forget. But after they picked tight end Eric Ebron instead, many fans were outraged. And on Sunday, that decision to pass on Donald came back to haunt the Lions.
“He was certainly disruptive — the tackles for losses and the sacks and the hurries and things,” St. Louis coach Jeff Fisher said. “There’s nothing against them, but they’ve had 10 days to prepare for Aaron Donald, and that just shows you the type of player he is. They’re double-teaming him. He’s breaking double teams. We created some one-on-one matchups for him by call design, and when you do that, he usually wins.”
That’s putting it nicely.
“You’re supposed to win one-on-ones,” Donald said. “That’s why they brought me here. When I get (a one-on-one opportunity), I’m supposed to win it. I’m just doing my job.”
His job is pretty simple. Go destroy the offense. And that’s what he did Sunday.
Donald was a beast, continuously blowing through the line, disrupting the offense.
“Quite a bit, he was an issue,” Lions coach Jim Caldwell said. “He made a lot of plays for them. Quick. Just the type of things you anticipate from him. He did a nice job.”
Stafford agreed.
“I was trying to slide the line if I could, but they do a good job of showing blitz, so I’ve got to respect the fact that they might bring blitz and pick them up, and they may have to be one-on-one,” Stafford said. “They’ve got a great front four, especially 99 (Donald); 98 (Rams DT and former Lion Nick Fairley) played good today, so they’re good up front.”
Meanwhile, Ebron caught three passes for 27 yards.
And the link between these players, at least in the minds of the Lions’ fans, will never go away.
“Man, that’s one of my good friends,” Ebron said. “I’m happy for his success. I’m happy for the scheme he’s in. I’m happy they are giving him the opportunity to shine. I’m not upset. You guys are upset. The media is upset. The fans are upset. I don’t care. I didn’t choose myself to come here. They chose me to come here. There is nothing I can do about it.”
After the game, Donald was asked if he is the best pass rusher in the league.
“I’ve still got work to do,” he said. “I’m not satisfied yet, so I’ve got to just keep working.”
Hardworking. Unstoppable. Disruptive.
Donald would look amazing in a Lions’ uniform.
And that’s the cruelest part of all.
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