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canadaramParticipantBrugler:
JOHN KELLY | Tennessee 5097 | 216 lbs. | JR. Detroit, Mich. (Oak Park) 10/4/1996 (age 21.6) #4
BACKGROUND: A three-star athlete recruit out of high school, John Kelly Jr. was a three-year starter at Oak Park (suburb of Detroit) and made an impact in all three phases as a running back, cornerback and return man. As a senior he rushed for 1,321 yards and collected 25 total touchdowns (five different ways) to be a finalist for the Michigan High School Player of the Year Award in 2014. Ranked as a top-10 recruit in the state of Michigan, Kelly spurned offers from in-state powers like Michigan and Michigan State, committing to Tennessee as a running back. He was the third-string running back as a true freshman (behind Jalen Hurd and Alvin Kamara) and rushed for 165 yards and one touchdown. Kelly started the 2016 season as the third back on the depth chart, but his touches increased after Hurd left the team midseason, leading all Tennessee running backs with 630 yards and 6.4 yards per carry (Kamara: 596 yards, 5.8 yards per carry in 2016). With Kamara to the NFL, Kelly was the Vols’ starter and led the team with 778 rushing yards and nine touchdowns, adding 37 receptions for 299 yards. He left early for the NFL Draft.(also worked out at wide receiver)
STRENGTHS: Highly competitive tackle breaker…compact build and balanced feet to bounce off contact…legs are always pumping and never content as a runner…sharp plant-and-go quickness with lateral mobility…decisive at the line of scrimmage…secures the football with only three career fumbles – put the ball on the ground only once in 2017…aggressive blocker and won’t back down at the point of attack…workhorse mentality, averaging 20.5 offensive touches per game in 2017…dependable receiving traits to be a catch-and-go threat with potential to be more than simply a screen target…tied for the team-lead in catches in 2017…team captain who connects well with his teammates and carries himself like an alpha.WEAKNESSES: Lacks ideal size and body armor for the position…not graceful through small creases…lacks wiggle in the open field…tunnel vision and late to locate developing lanes…can be caught from behind and lacks a finishing gear…limited juice around the corner…exposes his body to excessive impact and shelf-life might be a concern…willing in pass protection, but prefers to ram/slow instead of using his hands to engage/control…off-field decision-making requires homework after he was pulled over for a busted headlight and cited for misdemeanor marijuana possession and failure to provide proof of insurance (Oct. 2017) – served a one-game suspension, which he accepted, calling his mistake “immature and selfish.”
SUMMARY: A one-year starter at Tennessee, Kelly was one of the few offensive bright spots for the Volunteers in 2017, producing steady numbers despite little help from the passing game. With only six career receptions entering his junior year, he proved his worth as a pass-catcher as the only player in 2017 from a power-five conference to lead his team in rushing yards and receptions. A fearless ballcarrier, Kelly runs with forceful momentum and tacklers better finish him to the ground because he won’t let them off easy – credits his balance and courage to his days as an accomplished skateboarder in high school. He is athletically average by NFL standards and lacks creativity/wiggle in tight quarters. Overall, Kelly is a competitive, full-speed-ahead ballcarrier with the contact balance, toughness and receiving/blocking traits that project him as a reliable horse in the backfield.
GRADE: 4th Round
canadaramParticipantFrom Ourlads Guide to the Draft
Junior entry from Detroit, MI. One-year starter and a two-year contributor who made his name known along with Alvin Kamara in 2016. With Kamara on that 2016 squad, it was Kelly who led the team in rushing with 630 yards and a 6.4 average. Last fall he led the team in rushing again with 778 yards but also showed top tier receiving skills, tying for the team lead in receptions with 37. He is very good at absorbing contact, staying upright, and moving forward. Lacks some size and power, but he is a though runner who understands the physical side of the game. Doesn’t shy away from contact. Excellent vision between the tackles. Can see the cutback lanes instantly and won’t hesitate to alter his running lane. Very savvy and smart with the ball in his hands. Has a natural catch-to-tuck motion on the move and makes plays all over the route tree. Does show a little stiffness in his lower body when moving laterally. Seems to have a hard time adjusting his weight on the full-move and a lot of missed tackles that he created in college simply won’t happen in against NFL defenders. Also has some work to do as a blocker, as he doesn’t sustain contact after the initial blow. Has a coup,e of off field concerns that need to be looked into as well. 2017 stats: 778 yds, 4.1 ypc, 9 TD, 37 rec, 299 yds, 8.1 ypr. Did not run at the Combine, his choice. Fifth/sixth round. (A-31 3/8, H-9 3/8, BP-15, SS-4.51).
canadaramParticipantBrugler:
BRIAN ALLEN | Michigan State 6011 | 298 lbs. | SR. Hinsdale, Ill. (Hinsdale Central) 10/11/1995 (age 22.6) #65
BACKGROUND: A four-star offensive center recruit out of high school, Brian Allen was a three-year starter on both sides of the line of scrimmage, earning First Team all-state honors as a senior. He became the first wrestler in school history to win four state medals, winning the 2013 3A heavyweight state championship with a perfect 48-0 record (almost made it back-to-back titles, but lost in overtime in the 2014 championship match). Allen also won the state title in the shot put in 2013. He was considered a top-five center recruit in the 2014 cycle with offers from Iowa, Ole Miss, Wisconsin and others, but Michigan State had the inside track, following in the footsteps of his older brother (Jack). He was pressed into action as a true freshman due to injuries, starting a pair of games at left guard. Allen became a regular starter as a sophomore (12 starts), splitting his time between left guard and center to earn Second Team All-Big Ten honors. He filled in across the three interior line positions as a junior as the only MSU offensive lineman to start all 12 games, earning Second Team All-Big Ten honors. Allen stayed at center for his senior season, starting all 13 games there in 2017 to earn Second Team All-Big Ten honors for the third straight year. He accepted his invitation to the 2018 East-West Shrine Game.STRENGTHS: Flexible hips to snap-and-seal…works hard to achieve body position…foot quickness to pull into space and take out moving targets…knee bend to play low and establish leverage, resetting to find his anchor after contact…grappling hands and wrestling background is clear…always in a ready position with astute awareness…takes pride in his finishing skills…lead singer making the protection calls and checks…voted a senior captain with exemplary competitive toughness…NFL bloodlines – older brother (Jack) was an All-American at MSU and has played two seasons with the New Orleans Saints…experienced at all three interior line spots.
WEAKNESSES: Undersized by NFL standards with a short, smaller-framed body…belly-to-belly blocker with shorter arms…falls behind quickly if he doesn’t land his initial punch…doesn’t play with the upper body power to redirect or displace defenders…can be bullied by physical nose tackles who can overwhelm him at the point of attack…not explosive off the snap and lacks the nimble footwork to recover once beat…lower body stiffness shows in pass protection…allows athletic three- techniques to cross his face without a pat-down…inconsistent timing and success as a second-level blocker.
SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Michigan State, Allen started the final 28 games of his career, including all 13 games at center. He earned Second Team All-Big Ten honors each of his three seasons as a starter and his versatility was a valuable asset for the Spartans, spending time at left guard, right guard and center. A team leader in East Lansing, Allen has terrific intangibles, toughness and intelligence that will win over pro coaches. While he isn’t a poor athlete, he isn’t an impressive athlete either and lacks the ideal size or sustain skills that teams desire at the position. Overall, Allen is a smart, scrappy center who is rarely out-maneuvered, but he can be overpowered, creating doubt that he will be anything more than a NFL back-up.
GRADE: 6th-7th Round
canadaramParticipantOurlads Guide to the NFL Draft:
Three-year starter form Hinsdale, IL. A thick powerful blocker who is solid on the line and dominates on the second level. Takes good angles and cuts off backside puts. Plays with intensity that borderlines on viscous and nasty. Powerful on down blocks. Drives legs in contact. Long torso blocker who can anchor and leverage versus the most powerful bull rushers. Accurate, quick and consistent on his shotgun snaps. Good mental processing to locate the most dangerous man in pass protection. When uncovered, a defender he’s blocking better work to finish because the 37-game starter will give a rib shot to an unaware pass rusher. Allen is productive with decleat blocks and work to finish. A future starter with toughness and intelligence. OSR: 33/38. Sixth/seventh round. (A-32 3/8, H-9 1/4, BP-27, 10-1.88).
canadaramParticipantFrom Ourlads ‘Guide to the Draft’ on Okoronkwo:
Two-year starter from Houston, TX. Played on the edge in a two-point stance. Occasionally was off the ball but has little coverage experience. Explosive at the snap with a quick punch attacking a block. Plays with knee bend and is quick to shed working to the ball. Moves well laterally and attacks a gap with quick penetration upfield. Strong at the point of attack with the ability to redirect off a block and play the edge run. Rarely gives up leverage. Plays with a nonstop motor which gets him to a lot of plays. Solid pass rush skill with a variety of moves. Uses an arm over working inside along with a bull rush into a move. Bends around the corner and has burst to close. Flattens down the line on the backside and can chase across the field. Average agility as he hesitates at times when changing direction. While quick at the snap, he will take a slight stutter step back at times with his inside foot, which is often up in his stance. It does not effect his explosiveness but he needs consistency in stance and first step. He can get locked up by a powerful blocker at the line. Lacks a feel for coverage as he has little expereince. Tends to hesittate when asked to drop into coverage. He will have to develop technique. Lacks ideal length and athletic ability for an edge defender but his effort compensates. He is too productive to ignore and will get a shot as a 3-4 outside linebacker. An ascending player. 2017 stats: 76 T, 17.5 TFL, 8 sacks, 2 PBU , 6 QBH, 3 FF. Edge speed: left 2.02, right 2.04. OSR: 11/17. Third/fourth round. (A-33 3/4, H-9, BP- 27, SS-34).
canadaramParticipantBrugler on Kiser:
MICAH KISER | Virginia 6003 | 238 lbs. | rSR. Baltimore, Md. (Gilman) 1/25/1995 (age 23.3) #53
BACKGROUND: A three-star linebacker recruit out of high school, Micah Kiser was the 2012 All-Metro Defensive Player of the Year and attracted almost 20 collegiate offers. With his impact on the field and in the classroom, he narrowed his college choice to Stanford, Virginia and Maryland, choosing the Cavaliers. After redshirting in 2013, Kiser was mostly a special teams player in 2014, collecting 15 tackles. He became a starter as a sophomore and led the ACC with 117 tackles, adding a team- best 13.0 tackles for loss, 7.5 sacks and three forced fumbles to earn Second Team All-ACC honors. Kiser started all 12 games as a junior and again led the ACC with 134 total tackles to earn All-American and First Team All-ACC honors, also posting 10.0 tackles for loss and a career-best eight passes defended and his only career interception. He returned for his senior season and for the third straight season he led the conference in tackles (145), adding 9.5 tackles for loss and 5.0 sacks to earn First Team All-ACC honors. Kiser accepted his invitation to the 2018 Senior Bowl.
STRENGTHS: Physical and fast to the hole…downhill speed to corral ballcarriers before they reach the line of scrimmage…quick feet and aggressive hands to work off blocks…trusts his backfield vision with his eyes glued on the ball…football smart and has been making defensive calls since high school…form tackler, sticking his shoulder in the gut of the ballcarrier and wrapping his hands to finish…outstanding timing and closing acceleration as a blitzer – finds the soft spots, gets skinny and doesn’t let off-balance blocks slow him down (ranks top-10 in Virginia history with 19.0 career sacks)…well-rounded individual and strives to make an impact on and off the field – classroom and community are important to him…winner of the 2017 William V. Campbell Trophy, which is also known as the “Academic Heisman” – graduated with an undergraduate degree in foreign affairs (May 2017) and currently pursuing a master’s in higher education (3.42 GPA)…led the football team’s response to the Charlottesville riots, including a photo of team unity with arms interlocked…led the ACC in tackles each of the last three seasons and no active college football player has more tackles (411) over the last three years…proven durability, playing every game the past four seasons, including 37 straight starts.
WEAKNESSES: Limitations moving laterally…doesn’t have the change of direction skills or burst to turn and cover backs or tight ends in coverage…allows too much spacing in zone and man coverage and late to react…ordinary range and won’t narrow the gap chasing…often plays too fast downhill, hindering his ability to calm his feet and break down vs. shifty ballcarriers…only one career interception.
SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Virginia, Kiser lined up at MIKE linebacker in the Cavaliers’ 4-3 scheme in 2015 before moving to the inside MIKE position in a 3-4 base the past two seasons under the current coaching staff. His character and production are both off the charts, boasting the leadership traits welcomed in any locker room to help keep order. Kiser cleans up in the run game with his instincts, mentality and physical nature to work through blocks and blow up the ballcarrier – averaged double-digit tacklers per game the last two seasons. He lacks ideal athleticism in space and his limitations show when asked to redirect or handle cover assignments. Overall, Kiser would be a much higher draft pick 20 years ago, but in today’s NFL he projects as a two-down thumper you want moving downhill only and on special teams.
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canadaramParticipantFrom Ourlads’ “Guide to the NFL Draft” on Kiser:
Three-year starter and Campbell Trophy winner from Baltimore, MD. Three straight years leading the ACC in tackles per game is sure gain notice. Has been a rock in he middle of the Virginia defense ever since he was put into the starting lineup in 2015. The two-time All-America and three-time All-ACC selection might be short on athletic ability and potential, but is head and shoulders above most linebackers when it comes to instincts and nose for the ball. At his best between the tackles immediately following the snap. His first 2-3 steps are almost always in the right direction and it gains him initial positional advantage on blockers. Excels at taking on blocks and shedding them. Gets his powerful hands inside with a low pad level and finds the ball carrier in traffic. An excellent wrap up tackler who hits with enough force to jar the ball loose on contact. He is comfortable in space, as he was matched up against receivers and tight ends up the seam. The athleticism struggles mainly have to do with long speed and explosion. Has a hard time adjusting weight laterally and it could put him a step behind the action against NFL speed. There is some awkward movement to him in space. Seems like an ideal fit for a team looking to fill the two down inside linebacker role, preferably in a 3-4 where his play in space isn’t needed as often. He will bring top notch intangibles and football instincts to the table. Players with this kind of production matched with this kind of football IQ should never be overlooked. 2017 stats: 145 T, 9.5 TFL, 5 sacks, 4 PBU, 2 QBH. Edge speed : left 1.97, right 2.11. OSR: 12/22. Fourth/fifth round. (A-32, H-9, BP-DNP, SS-4.24).
canadaramParticipantFYI on #Rams 3rd round pick Joseph Noteboom, the OT from TCU. Gil Brandt,, who knows what he's talking about, had him ranked No. 72 on his big board. And, as Gil put it: "This I know: when you draft a @TCUFootball player, they're very well coached and will come in ready to play."
— Vincent Bonsignore (@DailyNewsVinny) April 28, 2018
canadaramParticipantIn my Day 2 Mock, I put #TCU's Joseph Noteboom early in the second round. Multiple teams have him as one of the top OTs in this class.
Good chance he doesn't make it to the middle of round two.
— Eric Galko (@OptimumScouting) April 27, 2018
canadaramParticipantAll the round projections aside. The descriptions of Noteboom seem to make him a good pick for the Rams assuming that he doesn’t have to play much this year. I think a lot of us hoped for the Rams to find a tackle of the future this weekend. On paper Noteboom seems to fit the bill.
canadaramParticipantInteresting contrast between how Brugler and Ourlads view Noteboom’s ability at the second level.
canadaramParticipantOurlads:
Three-year starter from Plano, TX. One of the more intriguing left tackle prospects in the class. Long and lean with a ways to go when it comes to muscle mass and power presence. The naturally gifted and athletic tackle is excellent out of his stance. Quick and efficient kick slide up the edge. Matched with his long arms and wide wingspan, he can routinely beat speed rushers to the junction point. His hands are always ready to strike and he does a nice job of locking them on the breast plate upon contact. His body control and awareness enable him to easily alter his plan against stunts and blitzes. Comes across as a player who is mentally with it and prepared. A productive second level blocker who gets movement on defenders in space, adjusts on the fly, and will finish his blocks. The struggle he will see early on against pro defenders is his power and strength deficiency. Not ready to handle the man-strength he will see at the next level. Needs a lot more out of his lower body and needs to play with more of an edge. A developmental tackle who could take over within a year or two should his body react well to pro-caliber strength training. OSR:4/38. Fifth/sixth round. (A-35, H- 9 5/8, BP – 27, 10-1.75).April 21, 2018 at 9:18 pm in reply to: Bondi may have more time…or he did last April. Now? Bad decline #85310
canadaramParticipantWell thank goodness for the surgeons. Hoping for the best.
canadaramParticipantI detest prime time games. I’m going to have to work on some strategies to overcome my initial disappointment with this schedule. Perhaps more meditation or maybe I’ll start a gratitude journal.
April 18, 2018 at 8:14 pm in reply to: have to take the dog in for the last time…this has been superseded #85222
canadaramParticipantAwe man that’s too bad, sorry zn. Bondi has a great face. Lots of character coming through in that photo. Take care.
April 17, 2018 at 10:36 am in reply to: offensive line returns intact, but there is a need to plan for future #85211
canadaramParticipantMuch of my focus and concerns about this season is about the offensive line. I’d be shocked if they experienced the same health as last year. The depth of the line is a bit of an unknown to me.
April 11, 2018 at 7:14 pm in reply to: How to Watch the Draft, starting with Round 1 on April 26th at 8PM EST. #85072
canadaramParticipantIf anyone has Sirius Radio I’d highly recommend listening to at least some of the draft on the radio. I always listen to the entire first round on NFL Radio. I also record ESPN’s and the NFL Network’s coverage and watch those later. Sirius’s coverage is far more extensive than than the tv networks. Pat Kirwin, Jim Miller and Gil Brandt have all spent time interviewing the prospects, they’ve been to Senior Bowl and Brandt has been to many of the Pro Days. They all have a decent feel for the needs of each team and Brandt always seems to have some inside information that no one else has access to. If you haven’t tried it out, give it a shot and let me know what you think. Or don’t do it, just watch it on your tv. What do I care?
canadaramParticipantLook, people, I’m trying very hard to
Find something to be miserable about in all this joy.Don’t take that from me.
Understood. I’m already folding under the pressure of increased expectations.
canadaramParticipantI mentioned this elsewhere on the internet, but for the Rams this season either ends up a rousing success or a fantastic disaster. There is to be no in between.
canadaramParticipantI feel like I should be more enthusiastic about this move.
canadaramParticipantI thought Negan was a good character, but the storyline just kinda got…well…remember the old 60’s Batman TV show — it kinda entered ‘that’ territory.
I ‘do’ give the writers a lot of credit for the first two-and-half or three seasons though. They wrote some good stuff for a while. Its hard to keep writing good stuff season after season. Doesnt happen very often. There’s a reason the Wire didnt go on for ten years. There’s a reason there wasnt a Lord of the Rings Four, Five, Six….
The campy Batman Show is a good comparison. The first three seasons were excellent. I was late to the show, so I binged watched seasons one and two in a couple of weeks. I was riveted by it all.
I like the actor who plays Negan, I thought he was good in ‘Weeds’ but I just can’t seem to buy into Negan. Perhaps that has more to do with the writing than anything else. As far as villains are concerned, I was more intrigued with The Governor and Gareth. I was disappointed how quickly they moved on from the Gareth storyline.
canadaramParticipantI agree with all of that. My DVR is still set to record all the episodes but I rarely watch them and never do in their entirety. I usually just delete an episode without watching. Occasionally I skip my way through an episode watching ten seconds at a time just to get the gist of it. The whole Negan/Survivors storyline bores me.
canadaramParticipantSeason two of ‘The Wire’ doesn’t seem to get the same love that the other seasons enjoy, but I loved season 2. Brother Mouzon was great character, but I also loved the Sobotka storyline as well. Not many people seemed to share my affinity for the Sobotka arc.
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canadaramParticipantRamik? I see what’s going on here. The Rams are just trying to make amends for letting Brandon Chillar and his dad Ram leave back in 2008.
canadaramParticipantNow I just need the Rams to sign Jimmy Clausen and the plan I hatched in 2010 will finally come to fruition.
Honestly, I would like the Rams to get Donald’s deal done and find a NT that fits Wade’s scheme. I’m not sure that Suh helps either of those things happen.
canadaramParticipantGood, glad he’s back. I’m sure Goff is too.
I’m grateful for this board, by the way.
March 15, 2018 at 9:11 pm in reply to: sources say the Rams are now intent on keeping Tavon Austin #84092
canadaramParticipantSo does that mean he’s on a one year deal? That could be a good situation I guess. I think we’ve seen enough of Austin to know that he won’t be replacing Watkins (not that anyone suggested that he would be replacing Watkins) but it’s good have a speedster on the roster. Also, he does have some ability to play RB if needed, but I hope the Rams find another option to go with Malcolm Brown this year.
March 15, 2018 at 8:45 pm in reply to: sources say the Rams are now intent on keeping Tavon Austin #84090
canadaramParticipantI’m assuming that they restructured his deal. I’ll be interested to see how that all works out. I’ve never been a big Austin fan, but he’s not without some value. It would be great if he could rediscover his punt return mojo. That said, Cooper turned out to be pretty special in that department. I wonder if they plan to use Cooper more in the offensive game plan and give Austin another chance to return punts.
canadaramParticipantI’m not sure who that Aaron Darnold guy is that Boylhart mentions in his write up about Settle though. 🤔
canadaramParticipantHere’s what Drew Boylhart has to say about Settle. Interesting that he mentions the Rams in his “Bottom Line” section:
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/archive/2018profiles/Tim.Settle.htm
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Tim is a powerful, athletic, quick twitch athlete in a boy’s body. He comes off the line gaining leverage and quickness that most offensive lineman at the college level struggle to deal with. His size and bulk make it very hard to control him and when Tim uses good, smart techniques it is near impossible for an offensive lineman to handle him one on one. Tim can play in a 1gap or 2gap system and in spite of his size and girth can play multiple positions on your defensive line. In fact if he plays on the outside and has more open space and his hand usage and foot quickness along with his strength gives him the advantage over less athletic offensive tackles. Tim is a disrupter and will give you some sacks and tackles behind the line of scrimmage from the nose tackle or defensive tackle position. If you decide to play him outside in a 3/4 defense I’m convinced he could be even more disruptive and have double digit sack totals. Tim is the type of player that offensive coordinators will have to account for when setting up game plans and offensive line blocking schemes. He can be as impacting as Rams Aaron Darnold.CONCERNS
Tim has to keep his weight down or he will eat himself off the field. As he matures Tim should gain the mental and physical stamina needed to play his position at the next level if he controls his weight and becomes more of a student of evaluating his opponent’s strengths and weakness. Tim’s work ethic will be the key to him improving at the next level.BOTTOM LINE
This kid explodes off the line at the snap of the ball. He can be a bigger version of Aaron Darnold but at this point in his development he lacks the maturity and football IQ that Aaron has and that is to be expected. The reason Aaron is so impacting is that he knows his strength and weakness and he understands mentally how to set up his opponent. Aaron also has excellent mental and physical stamina so when the 4 quarter comes around Aaron is still exploding off the line of scrimmage into very tired offensive lineman. Tim has to gain this mental and physical strength and stamina and if he does the sky’s the limit on his ability to impact. My guess is after the combine Tim will be moving up everyone’s draft boards and he could very easily be selected in the 1st round but everything will depend on Tim’s workouts and interviews. He’s the question; will a team select Tim in the 1st round? I think a playoff team with a strong group of defensive lineman like the Eagles and Patriots would be very smart to select Tim in the first round but like I said as far as some other teams like the Rams or Titans or Bills it will come down to his interviews and workouts and how mature they believe Tim is. Otherwise look at Rob’s board to get a feeling about his status in this draft. Tim has the potential to be a first round draft pick because he has first round talent but remember it takes more than talent to play in the NFL. -
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