Nice, but why is it black?

InvaderRam wrote:

get rid of him.

Yes!

The EPA wants to go to propane, isobutane and R-441a. All are flammable. President Trump, please stop this nonsense.

No twitter here.

Time to Make America Great Again! Don’t fear it. Embrace it!

Two things-

Clapper lied to congress about the US government spying on its own citizens.

All those millions of dollars donated by foreign governments to the Clintons were to undermine the electoral system. Crickets on that.

Billy_T wrote:

bnw wrote:

Billy_T wrote:

bnw wrote:

Except Assange has always said the emails were not from Russia or in any way connected to Russia. Oops! Sure hope Trump doesn’t get suckered by the neocons.

So we have different accounts of what happened. Who are you going to believe? The guy who decided to leak NOTHING from Republicans and ONLY from the Dems? And NOTHING from Wall Street and Corporate American and ONLY from the Dems? Or more than a dozen intel agencies, who don’t generally get along, often can’t stand the sight of each other, fight over turf constantly, but in this case agree?

I find it interesting how the same exact conservatives — especially in the media — who screamed for Assange’s head for years and years suddenly think he’s a hero.

The right: making the world safer for hypocrites since 1789.

Assange leaked what he had. He said he would have leaked info against the republicans and Trump too if he had it.

We don’t know what info he has at all. We can choose to believe him or not. We can choose to believe those dozen plus intel agencies or not. Or something in between. Believe this, but not that, etc. etc. But we have no idea what info Assange has on Republicans.

But let’s go with your premise. Let’s say he ONLY had info on the Dems. That tells you something too. That tells you he and his sources selected the Dems to hack, and NOT the GOP. Right off the bat, that shows ginormous bias and radically skews everything that follows. I worked in Internet tech support for fifteen years, and I can guarantee you that his sources could have gotten info from the GOP too, if they wanted it.

So, anyway you look at it, the intent appears to be to hurt the Dems and help the GOP — including Trump.

I despise BOTH parties, so I would have loved to have seen Wikileaks shine a light on both of them. But since they didn’t do that, and they avoided shining a light on the corporate world as well, I don’t trust them in the slightest. Their motives, Assange’s motives, appear to be nothing but partisan. And they also chose to help the greater of the two evils, not even the lesser, so it makes it even worse, from my perspective.

In short, I don’t trust Assange. You do. Oh, well.

Podesta was hacked because he used the word “password” as his password. This is the sour grapes of the leftist liberal losers. China hacked the personal information of 20 million federal employees and nothing is made of it.

Billy_T wrote:

bnw wrote:

Heres an article from the Catholic News Service-

http://www.catholicnews.com/services/englishnews/2016/leaked-emails-show-hostility-to-catholic-church-some-say.cfm

Podesta admits conspiracy and owns it. From the CNS article-

Other emails leaked by WikiLeaks included an 2012 email to Podesta from Sandy Newman, president of Voices for Progress. “This whole controversy with the bishops opposing contraceptive coverage, even though 98 percent of Catholic women, and their conjugal partners, have used contraception, has me thinking,” said Newman. “There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a Middle Ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic Church.
“Is contraceptive coverage an issue around which that could happen?” he asked in a Feb. 10, 2012, email.
In response to Newman’s question, Podesta tells him: “We created Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good to organize for a moment like this. But I think it lacks the leadership to do so now. Likewise Catholics United. Like most Spring movements, I think this one will have to be bottom up.”

That is a conspiracy, def. conspiracy- any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.

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BNW, here’s the definition of conspiracy:

con·spir·a·cy
kənˈspirəsē/
noun
noun: conspiracy; plural noun: conspiracies

a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
“a conspiracy to destroy the government”
synonyms: plot, scheme, plan, machination, ploy, trick, ruse, subterfuge; informalracket
“a conspiracy to manipulate the results”
the action of plotting or conspiring.
“they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice”
synonyms: plotting, collusion, intrigue, connivance, machination, collaboration; treason
“conspiracy to commit murder”

What you’ve described isn’t in the same universe as “conspiracy.” You’ve simply described political opposition to reactionary Catholic doctrine. And Podesta’s own words — and, again, he’s a practicing Catholic — make it sound like this opposition is half-hearted and disorganized.

When you call something a “conspiracy to foment strife,” you’re saying it’s something sinister, illegal, secretive and malicious. What you’ve described, instead, is none of those things. It’s garden-variety political opposition, utilizing the First Amendment, and it sounds all too weak, disorganized and ineffective, which Podesta implies himself.

I’m Roman Catholic, you’re an atheist. There is great concern with the statements Pope Francis has made in regards to previous doctrine within the laity and clergy. Since that is true regarding Pope francis I assure you it is true of the position and actions of one John Podesta.

Billy_T wrote:

bnw wrote:

Except Assange has always said the emails were not from Russia or in any way connected to Russia. Oops! Sure hope Trump doesn’t get suckered by the neocons.

So we have different accounts of what happened. Who are you going to believe? The guy who decided to leak NOTHING from Republicans and ONLY from the Dems? And NOTHING from Wall Street and Corporate American and ONLY from the Dems? Or more than a dozen intel agencies, who don’t generally get along, often can’t stand the sight of each other, fight over turf constantly, but in this case agree?

I find it interesting how the same exact conservatives — especially in the media — who screamed for Assange’s head for years and years suddenly think he’s a hero.

The right: making the world safer for hypocrites since 1789.

Assange leaked what he had. He said he would have leaked info against the republicans and Trump too if he had it.

zn wrote:

So we know it exists. BUT it is nearly impossible to detect any particles associated with it, because that which makes dark matter “dark” in the first place makes it virtually undetectable at the particle level. You can see the effects in astrophysics at huge scales, like you said, but not on the micro level…so far.

No, we don’t know that it exists. It is a theory. A theory that I believe best explains what can be observed today but nevertheless remains a theory. It has yet to be proven.

InvaderRam wrote:

bnw wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

bnw wrote:

That doesn’t make sense other than wishful thinking from a $tanK toadie?

it doesn’t make sense for the chargers or the rams or the nfl to have the chargers move to los angeles. especially financially.

i’m thinking spanos stays and tries to get a stadium built in san diego. that’s my guess.

Didn’t make sense to leave St. Louis but they did. Chargers moving to LA was a concession the NFL got from $tanK to make his new stadium available to Spanos. To the NFL the Chargers move to LA does make sense.

from the standpoint of the nfl it made perfect sense for them to move. it was about money. stan has more of it than almost any other owner and a team in la meant more money in all their pockets.

unfortunate but true.

Then by that logic two teams in LA doesn’t hurt NFL revenue.

Except Assange has always said the emails were not from Russia or in any way connected to Russia. Oops! Sure hope Trump doesn’t get suckered by the neocons.

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