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AgamemnonParticipantLike Cosell says, it is all projections. Historically the success/fail on QBs drafted in the first round is 50/50. Polian is the only guy who seems to beat the odds. Until we can see them perform in the NFL, we can’t say anything for sure. So much of a QBs performance is intangibles that you just can’t positively predict their how they will do. You just keep trying until you find one. imo
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AgamemnonParticipant2015 NFL Draft: Liberty Safety Jacob Hagen Scouting Report and Projection
by Bo Martin 5w ago
http://nflmocks.com/2015/03/27/2015-nfl-draft-liberty-safety-jacob-hagen-scouting-report-projection/
It’s not uncommon for draft analysts to overlook FCS players, but in a draft that lacks a wealth of talent at the safety position players like Liberty’s Jacob Hagen warrant a closer look.
Hagen is an absolute ball hawk who finished the 2014 season with 108 tackles, 5.5 tackles for a loss and eight interceptions. He possesses a unique combination of speed and physicality that accompanies his intense passion for the game.
Let’s take a closer look at Hagen’s skill set:
Strengths
On film, Hagen is a dynamic free safety with exceptional range. He relies on sharp instincts that consistently put in position to make a play. Those instincts have helped him become an adept run defender who delivers big hits on runners as well as receivers running intermediate routes.
In pass defense Hagen possesses rare ball awareness, as well as, an incredible ability to catch the ball. Of all the safeties that I’ve studied in 2015, Hagen is easily amongst the most intelligent, he understands his opponents and is excellent at positioning himself in a manner that allows him to make plays on the ball.
Overall, Hagen is a skilled all-around safety who is capable in both man- and zone-coverage. He has great range and constantly around the ball. One last thing to point out is his effectiveness on special teams—this attribute is important for the team’s superstar; I love to see a player willing to contribute in every facet of the game for the betterment of the team.
Weaknesses
To be clear, Hagen isn’t without his flaws. First and foremost, there always remains the fact that Hagen played against a different quality of opponents than as his peers.
On the field, there were moments when Hagen was caught in over pursuit taking him completely out of the play. Moreover, while Hagen possesses 4.5 40-yard dash speed, he still has the propensity to be beaten on deep routes by quicker receivers. There are also times where it seems like Hagen gets tunnel-vision, that being that he focuses on one specific opponent in zone schemes only to end up blowing his assignment. The bottom line is that Hagen likes to gamble, more often than not it pays of for him, but when it doesn’t it’s ugly.
Team Fits
Buffalo Bills
Philadelphia Eagles
Indianapolis Colts
Jacksonville Jaguars
Draft Projection: 5th round
Some will see this as being a little optimistic but the NFL seriously lacks high quality free safeties. Hagen offers a team a hard-working, good character player who can make an impact on both special teams and nickel-packages immediately.
The future is unclear for Hagen, as he’ll have to work extremely hard. However, he has the raw skill set and with the right coaching, he could be a viable starter in this league.
AgamemnonParticipantLiberty safety Jacob Hagen to Rams as undrafted free agent. He's 6-3, 205 and had eight interceptions and 108 tackles last season.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) May 3, 2015
2015 NFL Draft Results; Rams Sign FS Jacob Hagen, per Report
By Charles_Martel
@CharlesMartel19 on May 3, 2015, 11:00a 19
James Guillory-USA TODAY SportsAs the undrafted feeding frenzy begins, the Rams add depth in the secondary.
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Seeking developmental depth in the secondary, the Rams have signed UDFA Jacob Hagen, free safety of Liberty University.
From a small school, but with NFL measurables at 6′ 3″ and 205 lbs, the tape shows a tracking, sideline to sideline ballhawk AND enforcer.
There are few weaknesses on the Rams defense, but keeping it nuanced, the position of free safety is one of them. Rodney McLeod has been a consistent punisher as a safety for the Rams, but seems to lack the ball hogging skills that any team would prize. Jacob Hagen, could potentially be both.
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Hagen uses his long arms to shield receivers form the ball. His long legs and arms also allow him to get much higher than receivers and win jump balls. His length gives him an advantage, allowing him to have a much bigger coverage radius. He has very good speed as well and that allows him to cover smaller wide receivers and close on the ball very quickly. Hagen is great in coverage, using his speed and size to his advantage, but he is also decent in run support. He takes great angles to the ball carrier and is a reliable tackler, however he does not often provide bone jarring hits. He will most often attack the lower body of opponents and latch onto both legs to bring them down. He is not afraid to stick his head into an opponent and forced fumbles when coming up to make tackles. He has big, reliable hands and is most often talked about as a ball hawk. He is great at taking over a receiver’s route and that allows him better plays on the ball. He plays chess and uses that experience on the football field, playing a game of mental chess with opposing QBs. Overall he has great tools and skills that you covet as a prototypical safety
From Liberty U to the NFL is one huge step, but the basics and the mentality are there. This could be an outstanding pick up by St. Louis.
AgamemnonParticipantAdd another O-linemen to the list. South Florida OT Darrell Williams to Rams as undrafted rookie. Had 29 starts at left tackle.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) May 3, 2015
May 3, 2015 at 1:14 pm in reply to: NFL PUP list, Injured Reserve, NFI List rules and udfa stuff (for ref.) #23860
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AgamemnonParticipantWhat Can La’El Collins Earn as an Undrafted Free Agent
Posted on May 3, 2015 by Jason FitzgeraldWith the draft over, we hit the fast and furious UDFA signing period, which is where La’El Collins now sits. So let’s take a quick look at the rules regarding the signings, specifically in regards to Collins.
Every undrafted rookie is locked into signing a three year contract. The three year contract will contain the minimum Paragraph 5 salary in each year, which will equal payouts of $435,000 in 2015, $525,000 in 2016, and $615,000 in 2017. These are the same numbers as rookies drafted after the 3rd round and many of the players drafted in the third round, so it is not a major loss for Collins of any player who was not projected to be a 2nd round pick.
The UDFA’s are very limited in terms of signing bonus money. I don’t have the final number in front of me but IIRC each team can spend, in total, about $88,000 on all their undrafted rookies. That usually means a large number of players receiving signing bonuses that will not exceed $8,000. So that is a limiting factor for a player who is not drafted. The smallest signing bonus a 7th round pick will receive likely to be about $52,000. So that is a pretty big loss considering for many players the bonus is the only salary they will ever receive.
At the end of the three year contract, every UDFA will be a restricted free agent while a drafted rookie will have a fourth contract year. Teams select from one of three RFA salaries for the UDFA’s. The smallest tender for that year will be $1.785 million. Every drafted rookie (except punters and kickers) is also eligible to see their contracted salary rise to the smallest tender level based on playing time. So if Collins does not have a great career but is ok he will basically trail every drafted rookie that is ok by the signing bonus. However if he excels and earns the 2nd or 1st level tender he will earn at least $2.73 or $3.88 million in the final year. No drafted rookie can do that, so that would allow him to move his overall salary take back into the 2nd round level of the draft.
Every UDFA is extension eligible after just two seasons, so a very good player can get extended much earlier than the draft pick who must play three years. If I was Collins agent and that was a goal of mine I would strongly consider signing with a team like the Bengals, 49ers, Packers, or Patriots among others. These are the teams that typically like to extend talent early if possible and you may get that quicker extension from them if you do play like a first rounder. Similarly teams like the Texans and Giants have already proven they will avoid the RFA process for great talent like Arian Foster or Victor Cruz. Those are the kind of teams you may get that faster value from.
Now there is nothing in the process that prevents a team from guaranteeing large amounts of salary to UDFA. This is how many teams lure a UDFA while complying with the signing bonus rules. It is not uncommon to see a UDFA receive a salary guarantee equal to a Practice Squad salary (slightly over $100,000) and in some cases double that. For Collins that presents an opportunity to attempt to receive a three year guarantee of $1,575,000. That guarantee would be equivalent to a late 2nd rounders guarantee through his signing bonus and salary guarantee.
I doubt a team would be willing to make that investment now, but if Collins waits until the summer to sign they might if his name is cleared. In theory that could also give him time to see how teams depth charts are beginning to shape up and where he will get the most opportunity to play. This is also important because if e starts he would likely be a leader in Performance Based Pay which is based on playing time relative to your cap charge. Last year the league leader received nearly $375,000 in PBP. He would certainly earn more than highly drafted players further shrinking the gap.
So the avenues are there for Collins or any UDFA to make up for losses by not being drafted if they carefully select the team and are quality NFL players. UDFAs are never given the opportunity of a draft pick nor do they usually get the financial security, but they will be rewarded if they prove the NFL scouts wrong for pushing them out of the draft.
http://overthecap.com/what-can-lael-collins-earn-as-an-undrafted-free-agent/
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AgamemnonParticipantThe Importance of Planning for the Undrafted Free Agent
Posted on April 27, 2013 by Jason Fitzgeraldhttp://overthecap.com/the-importance-of-planning-for-the-undrafted-free-agent/
As the draft comes to a close, a second type of draft begins which is the chase for the undrafted free agents. The UDFA’s are the players who did not get drafted and now get a chance to choose a situation that suits them best. For the most part their contracts are already made for them- the NFL limits their contracts to 3 year terms and puts a salary cap pool on all undrafted free agents a little bit over $75,000. While teams can exceed that amount they rarely do because then it hurts what they can pay their drafted players. That being said this is a big day where having a good agent shows its worth.
Teams have their own systems in place for UDFAs. Some the like Raiders rarely give bonuses. The Jets value most players at the same bonus value, around $7,000 per player, and give little negotiating room. Others like the Dolphins vary their bonuses from as little as $500 to as much as $10,000 depending on the player. And then there are teams like the Patriots who give a small signing bonus and also guarantee base salary as a way to avoid the $75,000 limitation. Knowing these systems is important to getting the largest guarantee possible.
But there is a lot more importance to planning than just getting an extra $1,000 in the players pocket. The biggest goal for a player is to make a roster and earn their full $405,000 salary. It is much better to have a chance to earn $405,000 and get a $1,000 bonus than not earn $405,000 and get a $10,000 bonus. At the least you want to have a good chance to make the Practice Squad, earning close to $100,000 if you can last a full 17 weeks.
The one benefit to not being drafted is that you get to choose the situation you go to and it is critical to find the situation that suits you the best. In the NFL opportunities are limited and when you have no draft cache at all sometimes one chance is all you get. To maximize your chances you need meaningful preseason time or a spot on a teams Practice Squad which are scouted by the other 31 franchises. Even then there is no guarantee of a second chance.
An agent needs to know a teams roster inside and out. They need to know what positions are not only open this year but what ones may open next year. Teams are already planning for 2014 and you need to take advantage of that. Find a situation where your UDFA might be able to become the plan for 2014. They need to understand team trends with UDFAs and low drafted players. Do they hold onto them or do they routinely cut the players? Does the team often sign UDFAs to the PS or do they usually just keep maintaining their groups of PS eligible players from year to year? What positions did they just draft? To just field a phone call and say “deal” is doing a disservice to the player they represent and themselves.
What might be some good landing spots? Without knowing players available I would think the Raiders are a perfect spot for a player. The Raiders need bodies and have limited players under contract for 2014, the lowest total in the NFL. They are going to look for talent anywhere they can get it and their GM comes from a system where they take as many picks and possible in a draft with the feeling that they can find talent somewhere. The Bears might be another good destination. This is a team undergoing a facelift with a very short window for their current starters. The Jets are clearly in the midst of a massive rebuild and have kept UDFA’s before and often will place such players on their Practice Squad.
This is planning that had to begin in January and will potentially pay off for players today. A lot of work yes, but necessary. And those who did it will be placing their clients in the best possible situations to let them continue their dream of playing in the NFL.
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AgamemnonParticipantSo Stacy joins another ex-Rams RB draft pick, Daryl Richardson, with the New York Jets. #Yikes
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) May 2, 2015
AgamemnonParticipantRams have selected Baylor LB Bryce Hager with that Stacy pick. #Yikes
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) May 2, 2015
AgamemnonParticipantRams get pick No. 224 from the Jets, and are on the clock with that pick. #Yikes
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) May 2, 2015
AgamemnonParticipantMay 2, 2015 at 3:46 pm in reply to: The NFL Draft TV Holly-wood Red Carpet celebrity Fashion Bling thing #23735
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AgamemnonParticipantLosers => NFC West run defenses:
After grabbing the draft’s best bruising runner in Todd Gurley, they picked up a road-grading right tackle Rob Havenstein in the second round and athletic guard Jamon Brown in the third. It doesn’t hurt that last year’s first round pick, left tackle Greg Robinson, flat-out blows defenders off the ball in the running game. The Rams are set up to challenge Marshawn Lynch and the Seahawks as the division’s dominant ground attack.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000490234/article/winners-and-losers-from-day-2-of-nfl-draft
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AgamemnonParticipantNFC West
Arizona Cardinals
Draft pick: OL D.J. Humphries (No. 24 overall), DE Markus Golden (No. 58 overall), RB David Johnson (No. 86 overall)
Day 1 grade: A+
Day 2 grade: A-
Overall grade: A
The skinny: NFL Media analyst Daniel Jeremiah is one of many who believe Humphries is the best offensive tackle in the draft. At pick No. 24, he’s an absolute steal for the Cardinals, especially considering they didn’t have to trade up to get him. Humphries will fill an area of need and help the recovering Carson Palmer breathe a bit easier by keeping pass rushers at bay. Golden has great upside and might wind up having a better career than his former teammates at Missouri, such Broncos’ first-round pick Shane Ray. Johnson is a perfect fit for Bruce Arians and can fill the big-back role while also being a top-notch threat as a pass catcher.
St. Louis RamsDraft pick: RB Todd Gurley (No. 10 overall), OL Rob Havenstein (No. 57 overall), OL Jamon Brown (No. 72 overall), QB Sean Mannion (No. 89 overall)
Day 1 grade: A
Day 2 grade: B+
Overall grade: A
The skinny: As Hall of Famer Marshall Faulk said during NFL Network’s broadcast of the draft, Gurley is the whole package at running back and should give the Rams’ ground game a huge boost when he gets on the field. Yes, the medical issue will be in the back of everybody’s mind, but the Rams landed one of the best tailback prospects to come into the league since Adrian Peterson. Havenstein should set up shop at right tackle, and Brown gives the Rams a solid run blocker. A lot of folks around the league liked Mannion’s potential, and he found a good spot in St. Louis.San Francisco 49ers
Draft pick: DL Arik Armstead (No. 17 overall), S Jaquiski Tartt (No. 46 overall), DE/LB Eli Harold (No. 79 overall)
Day 1 grade: A
Day 2 grade: B+
Overall grade: B+
The skinny: GM Trent Balkke likes to move around in the draft, and Thursday he managed to move back just a few spots and land a number of quality selections on Day 3. On top of that, the 49ers landed one of the most versatile defensive linemen available in Armstead, who can develop into a dominant player. Tartt has plenty of upside at safety and will help support the run in a division where run defense is essential. Harold had first-round talent, but the 49ers were able to get him in the third.
Seattle SeahawksDraft pick: DE Frank Clark (No. 63 overall), WR Tyler Lockett (No. 69 overall)
Day 1 grade: N/A
Day 2 grade: B-
Overall grade: B-
The skinny: The Seahawks don’t get a Day 1 grade because they didn’t have a first-round pick, but their grade would be an A+, considering they turned the second-to-last pick in the first round into a Pro Bowl tight end/receiver in Jimmy Graham. Yes, the price was high, but Graham is a proven commodity who can help get this team another ring. Frank Clark had a ton of character concerns entering the draft, and getting him in the second round was a massive reach. The team managed an average Day 2 grade, however, because the selection of Lockett was a home run.They closed the gap if Gurley is healthy. imo
AgamemnonParticipantCollins, La’el OT 6’4″ 305 LSU 6.1
Clemmings, T.J. OT 6’5″ 309 Pittsburgh 5.9
Harrison, Jarvis OG 6’4″ 330 Texas A&M 5.7
Jackson, Tre’ OG 6’4″ 330 Florida St. 5.7
Glowinski, Mark OG 6’4″ 307 West Virginia 5.5
Garcia, Max C 6’4″ 309 Florida 5.4Bennett, Michael DT 6’2″ 293 Ohio St. 5.9
Jarrett, Grady NT 6’1″ 304 Clemson 5.8
Hardison, Marcus DE 6’3″ 307 Arizona State 5.6
Richardson, Bobby DT 6’3″ 283 Indiana 5.6
Wright, Gabe DT 6’3″ 300 Auburn 5.6
Flowers, Trey DE 6’2″ 266 Arkansas 5.5Alexander, Kwon OLB 6’1″ 227 LSU 5.5
Emanuel, Kyle OLB 6’3″ 255 North Dakota St. 5.4Wilson, Ramik ILB 6’2″ 237 Georgia 5.4
Tull, Davis OLB 6’2″ 246 Tennessee-Chattanooga 5.4
Jones, Taiwan ILB 6’3″ 245 Michigan St. 5.4Shaw, Josh CB 6’0″ 201 USC 5.5
Smith, Derron FS 5’10” 200 Fresno St. 5.6
Harris, Anthony SS 6’1″ 183 Virginia 5.5
Amos, Adrian FS 6’0″ 218 Penn St. 5.4Petty, Bryce QB 6’3″ 230 Baylor 5.4
Hundley, Brett QB 6’3″ 226 UCLA 5.3
Carden, Shane QB 6’2″ 218 East Carolina 5.1Bridge, Brandon QB 6’4″ 229 South Alabama 5.0
Ajayi, Jay RB 6’0″ 221 Boise St. 5.6
Williams, Karlos RB 6’1″ 230 Florida St. 5.4
Greene, Rashad WR 5’11” 182 Florida St. 5.5
Diggs, Stefon WR 6’0″ 195 Maryland 5.5Mayle, Vince WR 6’2″ 224 Washington St. 5.4
McBride, Tre WR 6’0″ 210 William & Mary 5.4
Waller, Darren WR 6’6″ 238 Georgia Tech 5.4
AgamemnonParticipantThat could be a LB or WR. But, I am going to draft Clemmings and put him on IR. It seems that Oline probably has the most talent left at this point or WR. We have two picks in round 6 and one in round 7 to look for help on special teams.
Do you think, if we draft another QB, will heads explode? 😉
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AgamemnonParticipanthttp://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000489095/article/2015-nfl-draft-best-remaining-prospects
2015 NFL Draft: Best remaining prospectsNFL.com
Published: April 30, 2015 at 08:04 p.m.
Updated: May 2, 2015 at 12:14 a.m.The top remaining players in the 2015 NFL Draft, based on Gil Brandt’s rankings of the top 140 prospects (number by player’s name is where Brandt had them originally ranked).
2015 NFL DRAFT
(April 30-May 2 on NFL Network)15. La’el Collins, OT, LSU: 6-4 1/2, 305 pounds, 5.10 40
42. T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh: 6-4 3/4, 309 pounds, 5.12 40
53. Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor: 6-2 7/8, 230 pounds, 4.81 40
57. Michael Bennett, DT, Ohio State: 6-2, 293 pounds, 5.01 40
60. Jay Ajayi, RB, Boise State: 5-11 3/4, 221 pounds, 4.52 40
72. Daryl Williams, G, Oklahoma: 6-5 1/4, 327 pounds, 5.34 40
76. Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma: 6-4 7/8, 324 pounds, 5.3 40
84. Grady Jarrett, NT, Clemson: 6-0 3/4, 304 pounds, 5.03 40
85. Tre Jackson, G, Florida State: 6-3 3/4, 330 pounds, 5.49 40
86. David Cobb, RB, Minnesota: 5-10 3/4, 229 pounds, 4.71 40
87. Jeremy Langford, RB, Michigan State: 5-11 5/8, 208 pounds, 4.4 40
88. Stefon Diggs, WR, Maryland: 6-0, 195 pounds, 4.42 40
89. Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State: 6-0 1/2, 218 pounds, 4.46 40
90. Za’Darius Smith, DE, Kentucky: 6-4 1/2, 274 pounds, 4.75 40
93. Josh Shaw, DB, USC: 6-0 1/2, 201 pounds, 4.34 40
97. Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA: 6-3 1/4, 226 pounds, 4.60 40
99. Jarvis Harrison, G, Texas A&M: 6-4 1/8, 330 pounds, 5.18 40
100. Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina: 5-10 1/4, 192 pounds, 4.53 40
101. Marcus Hardison, DL, Arizona State: 6-3 1/8, 303 pounds, 4.88 40
103. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon: 5-9 1/8, 192 pounds, no 40
104. Mike Davis, RB, South Carolina: 5-9 1/8, 217 pounds, 4.53 40
105. Kwon Alexander, LB, LSU: 6-0 3/4, 227 pounds, 4.54 40
106. Reese Dismukes, C, Auburn: 6-3 3/4, 296 pounds, 5.31 40
107. Anthony Harris, DB, Virginia: 6-0 5/8, 183 pounds, no 40
108. Arie Kouandjio, OL, Alabama: 6-4 3/4, 310 pounds, 5.46 40
109. Kyle Emanuel, LB, North Dakota State: 6-3 1/4, 255 pounds, 4.72 40
110. Ramik Wilson, LB, Georgia: 6-1 3/4, 237 pounds, 4.71 40
111. MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois: 6-2 1/4, 251 pounds, 4.52 40
112. Antwan Goodley, WR, Baylor: 5-10 1/4, 209 pounds, 4.43 40
113. Max Garcia, OL, Florida: 6-4 1/8, 309 pounds, no 40
115. Doran Grant, DB, Ohio State: 5-10 1/4, 200 pounds, 4.37 40
117. Jake Ryan, LB, Michigan: 6-2 3/8, 240 pounds, 4.58 40
118. Tre McBride, WR, William and Mary: 6-0 1/4, 210 pounds, 4.39 40
120. JaCorey Shepherd, DB, Kansas: 5-10 7/8, 199 pounds, 4.7 40
121. DeAndre Smelter, WR, Georgia Tech: 6-2 1/8, 226 pounds, no 40
123. Jamison Crowder, WR/KR, Duke: 5-8 3/8, 185 pounds, 4.37 40
126. Corey Robinson, OL, South Carolina: 6-6 5/8, 324 pounds, 5.32 40
127. James Sample, DB, Louisville: 6-2 1/8, 209 pounds, 4.48 40
128. Buck Allen, RB, USC: 6-0 1/2, 221 pounds, 4.50 40
129. A.J. Derby, TE, Arkansas: 6-3 3/4, 255 pounds, 4.69 40
130. Bobby McCain, DB, Memphis: 5-9 1/2, 195 pounds, 4.43 40
131. Ibraheim Campbell, DB, Northwestern: 5-11 3/8, 208 pounds, 4.48 40
132. Tony Lippett, WR, Michigan State: 6-2 1/2, 192 pounds, 4.56 40
133. Christian Covington, DL, Rice: 6-2 3/8, 289 pounds, 4.48 40
134. Gerod Holliman, DB, Louisville: 5-11 3/4, 218 pounds, 4.60 40
135. Derron Smith, DB, Fresno State: 5-11, 200 pounds, 4.60 40
136. Jacoby Glenn, DB, Central Florida: 6-0, 179 pounds, 4.62 40
137. Kenny Bell, WR, Nebraska: 6-1 1/8, 197 pounds, 4.37 40
138. Jamil Douglas, OL, Arizona State: 6-4, 304 pounds, 5.18 40
139. Vince Mayle, WR, Washington State: 6-2, 224 pounds, 4.65 40
140. Nick Boyle, TE, Delaware: 6-4 1/2, 265 pounds, 5.03 40
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