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AgamemnonParticipantIfedi sounds iffy.
As someone recently pointed out, last year, more UDFAs made the team than low-round picks did.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=2510&type=team
In the last 3 years, any player drafted higher than 200 has made the team, except Rok. đ So, someone should not play with play with the adults. đ
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AgamemnonParticipantIfedi sounds iffy.
As someone recently pointed out, last year, more UDFAs made the team than low-round picks did.
Once you are drafting in the 6th round, you are basically getting udfas. There isn’t much difference in talent. You are just picking the guys that you don’t have to compete for, cause you have drafted them. imo
The difference between Ifedi and say, Pasat, is in bonus money. Pasat might get 25k, but Ifedi gets as much as 75k or 50k.
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AgamemnonParticipantDo you think any of the UDFAâs will
have a future with the rams, Ag?w
vI bet some do. But it is all projections. I think they did a good job of finding players, udfras, that have a chance.
I think Keshaun Malone and Jacob Hagen have the best chance of becoming good players, but that might not happen this year. They just make the practice squad this year.
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Darrell Williams
School: South Florida
Position: T
Bio: Two-year starter at left tackle.
Positive: Tall, athletic tackle prospect with a good amount of upside potential. Quick off the snap, patient in pass protection and effective on the second level. Sets with a wide base, works to bend his knees and effectively fights with his hands. Adjusts to oncoming linebackers and does a nice job picking up the blitz.
Negative: Inconsistent in his all-around game. Must improve his run blocking. Struggles to finish blocks and falls off defenders.
Analysis: After breaking into the starting lineup as a junior, Williams has shown consistent progress and is a developmental prospect with practice squad potential.————————————————————
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South Florida OT Darrell Williams
Williams started 29 straight games at left tackle for the Bulls, and is getting a look at the Bucsâ local workout at One Buccaneer Place on Friday. Williams also has the quick feet necessary to play inside at guard and could be an undrafted free agent or a rookie mini-camp inviteNot much on Daryl.
AgamemnonParticipantMartin Ifedi NFL Draft 2015: Scouting Report, Grade for Rams Rookie
By Team Stream Now , B/R Video May 2, 2015STRENGTHS
A strong-side defensive end prospect with pro size and strength, Martin Ifedi is an intriguing finisher on film. He uses his size well and attacks the offense with a great motor. He knows how to use his length and does a good job bending to get underneath blockers to play with leverage. He doesn’t surrender his spot on the edge and can play as a one- or two-gap defender.
WEAKNESSES
Ifedi is an average athlete who lacks the burst to make plays off the ball. His pass-rushing toolbox is limited, and he tries too often to win by running over blockersâsomething he’s not powerful enough to do in the NFL. Without great burst or agility, he projects as a solid first- and second-down end only.
2014 STATISTICS
Tackles: 28
Sacks: 2.0
Tackles For Loss: 9.0
COMBINE RESULTS
40: 4.88 seconds
Bench Press: 16 reps
Vertical: 31″
Broad: 111.0″
3-Cone: 7.39 seconds
FINAL GRADE: 5.00/9.0 (Backup)
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05/05/2015 – A closer look at the Rams’ nine picks: Round 7/227 – Martin Ifedi, DE, 6-3, 275, Memphis…Ended his college career as the school’s all-time leader with 22.5 sacks and also compiled 36 tackles for loss. That sacks total ranked sixth among active NCAA FBS players. A sprained MCL cost him four games at the beginning of the 2014 season, but still had 9.5 sacks in nine games played. Rams defensive line coach Mike Waufle is said to be high on him and likes his upside. – The Sports Xchange
Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: Solidly-built frame and has worked hard to add weight and fill out. Good upper body strength with the length (33-inch arms) and wingspan to toss blockers and corral ballcarriers. Strong hands to finish once he makes contact, breaking down well in space to close and attack. Impressive recognition skills and ball awareness, using his eyes to locate, track and pursue. Disciplined run defender on the edges to take away the corner and contain, forcing the action back inside and allowing his teammates to make the stop. Plays with fight and works hard to stay square, not taking himself out of plays. Good play speed with a locked in motor, rallying to the football. Tough worker with mature football character and a likeable personality. Versatile experience lining up inside and outside at several defensive line positions. School’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5) as a three-year starter (31 career starts).WEAKNESSES: Near maxed out body type with some tweener traits. Plays tall off the snap and gives blockers a big target to block, leading to balance issues. Lacks the speed or flexibility to consistently bend and threaten the edge. Has some herky-jerky movements with below average redirection skills. Overly patient at times and seems to be thinking too much, leading to hand fighting at the point of attack. Too easy for blockers to win angles and seal him. Needs to better drive through his hips and show improved leverage shedding and tackling. Durability a question mark after a left knee injury in Sept. 2014, which caused him to miss four games and kept him from being 100-percent healthy the rest of the season.
–Dane Brugler
Player Overview
One of the most versatile front four prospects in the 2015 draft, Ifedi moved all over the defensive line in college, playing the bulk of his snaps at the three- and five-technique positions. He leaves Memphis as the school’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5), but he isn’t overly dynamic and there isn’t much that separates him from others athletically. Ifedi, who is the older brother of Texas A&M OT Germain Ifedi, displays very good run recognition to make quick reads and put himself in position to make plays, using his upper body strength and eyes to be effective. His medical report and knee status are imperative to his NFL draft grade, projecting best as a left defensive end in a four-man front or as a five-technique in a 3-4 scheme.A two-star defensive end recruit out of high school, Ifedi has a basketball background, but started to focus on football and received moderate interest as a recruit, receiving only a few FBS offers and committing to Memphis. After redshirting in 2010 and serving as a back-up defensive tackle in 2011, Ifedi moved to the edges as a sophomore in 2012 and led the team in both tackles for loss (11.0) and sacks (7.5). He had his best statistical season in 2013 as a junior with 14.5 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks, earning First Team All-AAC honors. Ifedi was plagued by a knee injury in 2014 and started just nine games, but still finished second on the team in tackles for loss (9.5), adding 2.5 sacks and earning First Team All-AAC honors.
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05/05/2015 – A closer look at the Rams’ nine picks: Round 7/224 – Bryce Hager, LB, 6-1, 234, Baylor…Hager’s father Britt played nine seasons in the NFL, including his final year in 1997 with the Rams. Head coach Jeff Fisher was Philadelphia’s defensive coordinator in 1989 when he was selected by the Eagles in the third round of the draft. Hager played six seasons for the Eagles and his next two with Denver. Fisher said Bryce is similar to his father in being a “sideline-to sideline” player that plays fast and urgent. Led Baylor last season with 114 tackles in 13 games. – The Sports Xchange
Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: Rapid read-react to locate the ball. Very disciplined in reading his keys and reacting to the ball, letting the play unfold rather than let the misdirections of the offense distract him or take him off course. He quickly diagnoses the ball and gets up field with ease, sorting through the trash inside the tackle box very well. Very efficient mover with very little wasted movement, quick feet and an impressive closing burst. Excellent open field tackler due to technique and discipline. Keeps his shoulders square on contact, chops his feet, and wraps up consistently. Stacks/sheds well, showing the ability to lock out blockers and disengage quickly. He is a snap to whistle player with an impressive understanding of his position.WEAKNESSES: Doesn’t generate a lot of power on contact and lacks the sand to hold his position against bigger, stronger blockers. Occasionally misreads the depth of the ballcarrier resulting in poor angles to the ball. Unable to overcome this due to not having great speed or being an overly impressive athlete, rather a good one. Has a tendency to go around blockers instead of through them which can result in plays going by him. Struggles in space to stay with faster players, particularly in coverage as he tends to take false steps. His COD ability is inconsistent and he needs work on his coordination, particularly in situations where he is in pursuit at, or close to, full speed. Lacks the consistent body control to stop/start – quick/agile runners can give him trouble in space.
Compares to: Paul Worrilow, Atlanta Falcons — Worrilow (6-0 232) is nearly identical in size to Hager and has a very similar skill-set. Both players are undersized and hyper-active with very good instincts, the ability to quickly diagnose plays, and tackling. Worrilow has posted 269 total tackles in two seasons after being brought into Atlanta as an undrafted free agent in 2013. Hager will likely be a late round prospect who has all the intangibles to come in and make a similar impact for a team early in his career.
Player Overview
Hager comes from NFL bloodlines — his father, Britt, is the all-time leader in tackles at Texas and was a nine-year NFL veteran.Bryce was an all-state linebacker and running back in high school before accepting a scholarship to Baylor, rather than attempt to walk-on at his dad’s alma mater in Austin.
Bryce Hager redshirted his freshman season in 2010 and in 2011 he contributed primarily on special teams and as a reserve linebacker. He won the starting middle linebacker spot in 2012 and recorded 124 total tackles (first in the Big-12), 72 solo, 9.5 TFL, 4 sacks, and 2 forced fumbles. His 2013 season was productive as he averaged 7.9 tackles per game but he missed the final four games of the season due to a sports hernia surgery.
Hager saved his most productive season for his last, finishing 2014 with career highs in solo tackles (76) and TFL (12) to go along with 114 total tackles, 2 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, and 1 INT, earning his second-team All Big-12 honors.
Hager is an undersized inside ‘backer and plays with a high football IQ and excellent field awareness. While Hager doesn’t possess ideal size or strength, he has the frame to handle more weight and get stronger in the future. He doesn’t generate very much power on contact and lacks the sand to hold up at the POA vs bigger, stronger blockers but he makes up for this by showing an innate ability to sort through the trash inside the tackle box.
Hager does an excellent job of keeping his shoulders square from snap to whistle while having very active feet which allows him to outmaneuver blocks in space regularly while keeping himself in perfect positions to make open field tackles. He has very good closing speed and plays with a high motor. As previously mentioned he isn’t overly powerful but his hips snap on contact and he wraps up consistently, resulting in him packing some pop and being a very reliable tackler. Hager is a player who wins with smarts, technique, and instincts rather than sheer athleticism.
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St. Louis Rams: LB Bryce Hager
Jeff Curry-USA TODAY SportsHaving traded running back Zac Stacy for nothing more than a seventh-round draft pick, the St. Louis Rams will want to see that seventh-rounder turn into a productive player for their team, especially if Stacy goes on to have success for the New York Jets. The player they selected with that pick, No. 224 overall choice Bryce Hager, could prove to be well worth it.
Hager, who had 322 total tackles over the course of his four-year career at Baylor, is a rangy and instinctive linebacker who is good at finding his way to the football and finishing with strong tackles.
Although he is small for a true middle linebacker at 6â1â and 234 pounds, he nonetheless offers the versatility to play all three linebacker positions in a backup/rotational role for the Rams. He could struggle to get off blocks against NFL offensive linemen, but he is a solid run-stopper who can attack lanes as a blitzer and also drop back into coverage.
On a team with limited depth behind starters James Laurinaitis, Alec Ogletree and Akeem Ayers, Hager could have a legitimate shot to emerge as the top rotational player in St. Louis at his position. A smart, high-motor player, he should be ready to contribute on defense as a rookie, whenever his number is called.
Even if Hager doesnât carve out a significant role on defense in 2015, he should earn his spot on the 53-man roster by standing out on special teams. His ability to recognize and chase down ball-carriers should translate well to coverage responsibilities on kickoffs and punts and can make him well worth the Ramsâ seventh-round investment.
AgamemnonParticipantI think Williams was our 3nd to last udfa signedâŠjust a camp body
Tyler Slavin and Imoan Claiborne are great st players..they could easily make the team. ditto Cameron Lynch as a lber.
Rams paid Trinca-Pasat buku bucks so he has a great chance and Malcolm Brown should beat out Pead..he needs to go.
Hammer does some good stuff, but he isn’t one of the guys that I automatically give an credibility too. I don’t really agree with much he has in that post. I like Malone and Hagan better than any player he mentioned.
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Get to Know Sean Mannion; An Interview with Building the DamBy Charles_Martel
@CharlesMartel19 on May 7, 2015, 11:18a 80
Brian Spurlock-USA TODAY SportsWho is Sean Mannion and just what are the Rams getting in the former Beavers QB? I have a sit-down with Andy Panda to find out.
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PinTo get a better sense of the Rams’ 3rd round draft pick, I spoke to Andy Panda from Building the Dam, SB Nation’s community for fans of the Oregon State Beavers.
So just who are the Rams are getting in Sean Mannion? How high is the esteem Oregon State fans hold for him?
St. Louis is getting a prototypical pro-style quarterback, one who is very adroit at making his pre-snap reads, dropping back, making his pre-throw reads, and delivering the ball on target, and into a pretty small window.
The Rams are also getting a dedicated, hard worker. Heâs a coachesâ son, and it shows. Heâs known for spending many hours on film study and play book study, and endless hours on individual and small group reps. Heâs legendary for throwing by all estimates well over 1,000 balls to Brandin Cooks in “extra” practices over the spring/summer before Cooksâ All-American season in 2013 that led him to his success in New Orleans.
Heâs held in pretty high esteem by Oregon State fans, as someone who holds the all-time record for career passing yardage in the Pac-12 should be. But if there is anything that tempers it, its those who wish he were something he isnât, specifically a more mobile quarterback. Thatâs partially because mobile quarterbacks are widely regarded as the solution to all offensive problems, and partially because since he isnât mobile, there have been times, possibly ones that might have actually directly altered the outcome of the game, he didnât try to make the kind of play that a mobile quarterback would have.
Some Rams fans are not stoked about this pick. They preferred a more mobile and athletic quarterback, such as Hundley or Petty. Jeff Fisher and Les Snead made it pretty clear before the draft that they wanted a quarterback who ran a pro style offense. What are the key skills he excelled in that made him such a coveted prospect? What comparisons, if any, would you make to past or current NFL quarterbacks?
Sounds like a lot of those Beaver fans I was just referring to.
Mannionâs forte is making the right throw, on target and on time, when he has the time to do so. And when he has the time to do so, if his receivers are where they are supposed to be when they are supposed to be there, it looks like heâs throwing darts.
The proof of that is the long, very long, list of Pac-8/10/12 quarterbacks that have very good, and piled up very large numbers, that did not throw for the yardage Sean did. And while some of them played in systems that throw less, this is the conference where the “Air Raid” is and has been in use for some time now, and is the home of every variation of the spread/fast break offense imaginable.
Drawing comparisons to existing quarterbacks can be tricky, because, for example, a lot of quarterbacks havenât been as successful as Tom Brady, but are similar in style, and how Brady plays is a style most fans can readily visualize. Do people have a similar vision of Philip Rivers? Or a prejudice based on his relative success?
For those who go back a ways, Mannion reminds me a lot of Troy Aikman, both at UCLA and Dallas. Iâm not saying he will be as successful (unless the Rams can replicate the Cowboys Aikman had around him), but both his playing style and his relatively quiet team leadership style are similar.
The din about quarterback mobility is constant these days among fans and at least a sizable segment of the media, and is often perceived as an issue, but you wonât find any of Mannionâs teammates who had any problem with how he played or led the team.
What’s your favorite moment of Sean Mannion as a Beaver?
The game at Arizona in 2012. And it was actually about 20 minutes. It was a night game, so starting after 10 PM in the east, and on the then very fledgling Pac-12 Network that almost no one got then, so almost no one saw it. But Mannion brought the Beavers from behind 3 times down the stretch, with 3 touchdown drives. He threw for a then record 433 yards (since surpassed several times, but that was pretty spectacular at the time), capped with the game winning touchdown throw to Connor Hamlett with 1:09 left that finished off a 75 yard drive.
He suffered the knee injury that plagued him the rest of the season in the next game, against Washington St., but that was when Mannion first appeared as the gunslinger quarterback that could bring his team back by winning a shootout.
A close second would actually be considerably less than a moment, when he cleared the fingertips of a Utah receiver by a fraction of an inch to hit a leaping Cooks for the game winning touchdown in overtime at midnight in Salt Lake City in 2013, winning a game that had taken 4 hours, but came down to a fraction of an inch in a matter of a couple of seconds.
Both of those episodes are typical of why the phrase “In Sean We Trust” came to be often used.
What is something you didn’t expect of Sean Mannion, taking over as starter in 2011? His “regression” last season has been a bone of contention recently, could you elaborate on exactly what happened?
Everything was unexpected about Mannion taking over. Ryan Katz was coming off a decent year and had looked ok in pre-season camp. It was a pretty controversial move, but then head coach Mike Riley had seen something that prompted him to essentially sacrifice that season as a learning period for the future.
Mannion was already a well known quantity, from seeing him in practices in his redshirt freshman season, and spring and summer ball, but was still very inexperienced.
He learned and his second season was off to a good start until he suffered a knee injury that didn’t end his season, but certainly derailed it. Once healthy again (and in 2 years, there have been no lingering affects of the injury), he had a huge junior season.
His senior year was seen by many as a regression, and statistically and w-l wise, it was. But it really wasn’t in terms of his performance, as he continued to refine his game.
But Marcus Wheaton and Brandin Cooks had graduated the last 2 years, and he had to train an essentially brand new group of wide receivers. He also had to do it behind an offensive line that changed its makeup sometimes on a daily, never mind weekly, basis, due to injuries and illnesses. That’s never a recipe for success.
But by the end of the season, Jordan Villamin was becoming a dangerous weapon, and Victor Bolden was beginning to fill the Cooks’ shoes pretty well.
At the same time, Oregon St. at times made a concerted effort to run the ball more, under criticism of having given up on the run too soon too often the year before, relying on Mannion to beat 7 and 8 man coverages. This reduced his raw numbers, and also was less successful than hoped, but that too was a predictable consequence of a constantly changing offensive line.
Despite being an NFL blogger and a Sooners fan by choice, I am also a crypto-Beavers fan as a substantial portion of my family are alumni. With your starting quarterback now off to the NFL, what does next season hold for the Beavers? Since 3/4 of the Ducks starting roster got drafted, how do you like the Beavers chances in the Civil War next year?
Actually, the Beavers had as many players drafted as the Ducks, 5 each. Nevertheless, I still expect the new Oregon St. spread offense under new head coach Gary Anderson to be had pressed to keep up with the talent and speed Oregon has on hand to reload with.
Especially so because almost all the players of significance, including 4 draftees, are gone from the defense, and the Beavers will be playing a true freshman at quarterback, unless he gets hurt, in which case a red-shirt freshman will be playing.
There is some hope coming out of spring ball though; that continually changing cast of offensive linemen settled on a group of 5 who were healthy, and all playing the same position, all fall.
Had that happened last year, I suspect the Rams, or anyone else for that matter, would not have been able to get Mannion in the 3rd round.
May 25, 2015 at 12:28 pm in reply to: what the college spread & new CBA did to OL coaching (Rams come up) #25253
AgamemnonParticipantThirty-one of 32 NFL clubs will hold organized team practice activities (OTAs) between Tuesday, May 26 and Friday, May 29. Only the Rams will not be holding any club-overseen workouts this week.
OTAs are non-padded, non-hitting practices in which coaches can instruct players. Players can wear helmets, and full team drills are allowed, per the CBA between NFL teams and players.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/24/all-but-one-team-will-hold-otas-this-week/
On the other hand, Fisher doesn’t use OTAs, but I think it has to do with 100 per cent participation in off season programs.
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AgamemnonParticipantGreg Robinson is 22. He is younger than all our rookies, except Gurley(20) and Brown(22).
Of our 9 drafted rookies, 8 are seniors, of those 8, 7 are red shirt seniors.
Robinson started playing on the offensive line as a junior in HS. He was drafted as a red shirt sophomore.
This years rookies have played a lot of college football and a lot was at schools that ran more NFL style programs.
That is almost a pattern there. đ
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AgamemnonParticipantMay 22, 2015 at 7:01 pm in reply to: Why the St Louis Rams Offensive Line is Fine & a few articles from that site #25120
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What Makes The St. Louis Rams Offensive Line Intriguing?
by Blaine Grisak 1h ago
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0 CommentsThe St. Louis Rams offensive line went from being a known commodity to being inexperienced and unknown in the matter of one offseason. While the Rams offensive line was known and a lot of their players were proven, that facet of the team was a total disaster last season.
Going into 2015, the Rams will have three new faces up front. Assuming rookies Rob Havenstein and Jamon Brown start with Tim Barnes at center, the average age of the Rams offensive line is 23.8 compared to 26.8 this time last year.
Free agent acquisition, Garrett Reynolds, becomes the oldest player on the o-line at just 27 years old and Rodger Saffold becomes the most experienced with 60 starts. The rest of the offensive line? Reynolds has 27, Greg Robinson has 12, Tim Barnes has four, and everybody elseâŠ.zero.
The Rams offensive line is an unknown commodity. While this can be frightening, it is also intriguing. This could be an experiment that goes bad or it could be one that pays off. Saffold and Robinson are the only two knowns up front, as shown from the experience stats above, everybody else we know almost nothing about.
The Rams are changing their identity on offense. They are now fully committed to being a run first, ground-and-pound team, and that is proven with the players they drafted. Hereâs what makes the unknown players on the offensive line intriguing:
RT- Rob Havenstein
âMassive tackle with very functional length. Above-average power in run game and runs legs to create movement. Drive blocker by nature. Block winner at point of attack. Uses well-timed punch and has adequate foot quickness to set out to edge speed. Aggressive, play-finishing demeanor on the field. Plus body control and balance on second-level blocks with ability to sustain. Can brace against power and has feet to counter inside moves in pass pro.â -NFL.com
Havenstein fits the bill for what the Rams are looking for in their right tackle. Above average in the run game and plays with an aggressive play-finishing demeanor. He was considered the leader on the Wisconsin offensive line while opening up holes for first round pick Melvin Gordon.
Best of all, he had zero holding calls in 2014. This is interesting because the Rams had the most holding calls in 2014 among non playoff teams with 25 and had the most per game at 1.56 with the most yards lost at 15.6 per call.
RG- Rodger Saffold
Saffold is one of the players that is actually known on the Rams offensive line. Saffold had the 18th highest pass protection grade on Pro Football Focus while allowing only two sacks, two hits, and 12 hits.
Making the move from Havensteinâs spot at right tackle in 2013, Saffold has become on of the more impressive guards in the NFL. If he can stay healthy, and thatâs a big if as Saffold does seem to get injured during a game at least a couple of time a year, Saffold gives the Rams some much-needed consistency up front and inside.
C- Tim Barnes, Barrett Jones, Demetrius Rhaney
All three of these players have a very small sample size. Barnes has four starts in his career accumulating 281 snaps, Jones has 23 snaps in the regular season and Rhaney has 44 preseason snaps.
The Rams have a lot of unknowns up front, but none is more unknown than what they have at center. Between three players they have four total starts.
However, with the one player that only has four starts, he does have some upside. In week 13 of 2013 against the San Francisco 49ers, Barnes had a 1.7 grade on Pro Football Focus, the seventh highest grade of that week. Barnesâ performance was pretty balanced as he had a 0.8 grade in both pass blocking and run blocking, the pass blocking grade being top five for that week.
The next week Barnes struggled against the Cardinals having a -2.4 grade, among the leagueâs worst for that respective week.
In his third start, Barnes had a fairly average performance against the Saints, but did manage a top 15 pass blocking grade.
To finish off his year, Barnes managed a positive 1.7 grade against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers which was top ten for the week and he had the third best grade in run blocking.
In his four starts, Barnes ranked as the 24th best center in the NFL out of 46. He had zero penalties and allowed only one sack while ranking as the 20th best run blocking center.
Moving on to Barrett Jones, according to NFL.com he:
âPossesses NFL size for an interior player. Solid pass protector whether playing inside or outside. Great awareness of late blitzers and twist stunts, and he gives excellent effort to reach free rushers so his quarterback stays upright. His versatility, intelligence and high character should get him penciled in at guard or center for the next decade in the NFL.â
We have yet to see much out of Jones, if anything. 23 snaps is not a great sample size. However, given what we do know, he was a four-year starter at Alabama, the powerhouse of the SEC. His college coach, Nick Saban, compared him to NFL great Bruce Matthews.
The bottom line is with Jones is that heâs smart. He has the intelligence to play all five positions on the offensive line which is rare. The problem is that he canât seem to stay healthy or get healthy for that matter.
Back to back year-long injuries have kept Jones sidelined and if he is ever going to be the center of the future for the Rams, the time is now.
Lastly, Demetrius Rhaney. Via NFL.com Rhaney has:
âVery good quickness, agility and balance. Gets into blocks quickly and keeps battling through the whistle. Good lower-body power. Solid anchor in pass protection. Has the size, power and agility to eventually compete for a starting job.â
Rhaney will have the ability to compete for a starting job. Heâs had a year to learn. While he may be more suited for depth, he has potential, but has yet to really show anything.
LG- Jamon Brown
The Rams very well could sign Justin Blalock which would be a good signing and give the team some veteran leadership next to young players. However, if they donât, they have Jamon Brown at left guard.
He has been a three-year starter, starting 26 games at left tackle and 13 and right tackle. However, according to NFL.com he could make the transition to guard:
âIntriguing tackle/guard prospect. His mass and athletic limitations are best-suited inside and his quickness off the snap could be an indicator that Brownâs best football could be ahead of him. With a wider base and better body control, Brown could become a starting guard or potential tackle in power scheme. Straight-line mover in space with potential to be effective blocker on inside zone plays from guard spot. Has experience at both tackle spots and at guard.â
One NFC executive said,
ââHe could go much higher than anyone thinks because heâll be on boards as a tackle or as a guard. He can move and he has some power so he will hit more teams draft boards than some of the other guys in the draft.â
Once again, the Rams have found a player that fits what they want to do. He is a straight-line mover and mauler in the run game. His versatility is valuable allowing him to not only potentially be a starting left guard, but also fill in at tackle if necessary.
LT- Greg Robinson
The Ramsâ left tackle of the future whom they drafted second overall last year. Who is Greg Robinson. GRob as some call him didnât have the best rookie season. He only started 12 games and didnât start at tackle until midway through the year.
Robinson had grades of -5 or worse on three different occasions in 2014 and once accumulated a -8.5 grade, the sixth worst performance of any tackle last season. He also had 10 penalties of, as mentioned earlier, the Ramsâ 25.
Mike Mayock compared Robinson to Orlando Pace. He has been said to be able to pave the way in the run game and be a franchise left tackle. The problem is, he has yet to show it. He was said to be raw, but this is a year in which he is going to have to step up. He has all the potential in the world, but at this point, thatâs all it is, potential.
Conclusion
The Ramsâ offensive line is in rough shape, there is no denying that. For the two rookies, the jump from college to the NFL is not going to be easy, there are going to be growing pains. The same goes for the new center that the Rams are going to have as well as Greg Robinson going into his second year.
However, with all of the problems that the Rams have on the offensive line, it is intriguing. They have beef up front now. They have players who possibly have the ability to turn into a historical offensive line like the hogs in Washington or become just as good as the offensive line in Dallas. The ability is there.
The Rams have four developmental players for the time being, but as this group grows together, this potential and intrigue could turn into something special for the long-term. Les Snead and Jeff Fisher have taken a lot of heat for not bringing back Barksdale, not signing Laâel Collins, or over drafting their offensive linemen. Itâs only a matter of time before we find out how this experiment plays out.
AgamemnonParticipantHe appears to be almost a nickel LB. I think he was in alot when they already had Mc and Mc on the field. imo
I think he played sort of in place of Dunbar when they took him out.
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May 22, 2015 at 10:09 am in reply to: A bunch of Rams articles from FOX Sports – Rams get a good grade in the draft #25092
AgamemnonParticipanthttp://www.foxsports.com/midwest/story/todd-gurley-remembers-a-bruisin-from-new-old-st-louis-rams-teammate-alec-ogletree-043015
Gurley remembers a bruisin’ from new/old Rams teammate Ogletree
Elisabeth Meinecke
FOX Sports MidwestAPR 30, 2015 11:16p ET
Alec Ogletree (left) and Todd Gurley were Georgia Bulldog teammates for a year.
ST. LOUIS — When Rams 2015 first-round draft pick Todd Gurley joins his new teammates in St. Louis, there will be a familiar face among them, albeit on the opposite side of the ball.
Linebacker Alec Ogletree, a first-round draft pick of the Rams in 2013, played at the University of Georgia, where Gurley began his collegiate career as a running back in 2012. During Gurley’s first Bulldog camp, the linebacker delivered a hit during a goal-line drill that left an impression.
“Man, I felt that,” Gurley recalled. “I was like, from that day forward, ‘I’m running low.'”
Fortunately, the relationship wasn’t bruised long-term.
“I’ve got a good relationship with him,” Gurley said. “It will be good to get back there with him, team up. That’s one of the best players I ever played with.”
He couldn’t confirm, however, if Ogletree had texted him in the selection’s immediate aftermath.
“I haven’t checked my phone,” Gurley admitted. “I’m pretty sure he did.”
Regardless, Ogletree was prolific welcoming his old and new teammate on social media as he retweeted congratulations from people showing love for the new pair of Georgia Bulldogs in St. Louis. About an hour after the pick, Ogletree’s timeline had close to 80 such messages.
May 22, 2015 at 10:03 am in reply to: A bunch of Rams articles from FOX Sports – Rams get a good grade in the draft #25091
AgamemnonParticipantRisk-reward: Gurley’s talent outweighs injury concerns for Rams
Howard Balzer
FOX Sports MidwestAPR 30, 2015 9:01p ET
Todd Gurley rushed for 911 yards and nine touchdowns over six games in 2014.
ST. LOUIS — Rams coach Jeff Fisher has never met a running back he didn’t like, from Eddie George, who fueled the Tennessee Titans’ run to the Super Bowl after the 1999 season, to Chris Johnson, who rushed for 2,006 yards in 2009.
So it shouldn’t have been a surprise when Fisher and general manager Les Snead took a major gamble Thursday with the selection of Georgia running back Todd Gurley at No. 10 in the first round of the NFL Draft.
It fits the head coach’s philosophy.
While Fisher didn’t want to compare Gurley to George, who rushed for 10,009 yards and 64 touchdowns in eight seasons with Houston and Tennessee, he did say Gurley is “special.”
“But they’re different,” he continued. “They have different running styles. But when the career is all said and done, he can be that guy.”
Gurley, who is now the seventh tailback on the Rams’ roster, becomes the fourth runner the team has drafted in the last four years, joining Isaiah Pead (second round, 2012), Daryl Richardson (seventh round, 2012), Zac Stacy (fifth round, 2013) and Tre Mason (third round, 2014).
Taking the immensely talented Gurley is a risk because he is recovering from a torn ACL suffered in the fourth quarter of the Bulldogs’ Nov. 15 game against Auburn. That game was his first after returning from a four-game suspension for accepting more than $3,000 for autographed memorabilia.
The Rams were present at his medical recheck on April 18 at Indianapolis.
“His rehab is coming along fine,” Fisher said. “We don’t know when he’s going to be on the field competitively, but we do know he’s not having any issues right now and the docs say he’s ahead of schedule.”
Gurley, who was surprised to be selected by the Rams and didn’t visit the team in recent weeks, echoed Fisher’s sentiment, saying, “There is no timetable. I know I have a lot of work to do. But opening day is a realistic goal.”
“There’s always that possibility,” Fisher said. “But we’re not going to be specific as to when. I will tell you this, we’re not going to rush it. We may be a little on the conservative side. This is our running back of the future, so it makes no sense to subject him — to put him in a bad situation sooner than we have to. We’ve got outstanding backs on our roster and he’s going to add to that group. When that happens, we don’t know, but he’s going to be the running back of the future for a number of years.”
Still, there was significant discussion among the Rams’ hierarchy about the wisdom of adding another player with a history of ACL injuries, especially considering they’ve been burned by torn ACLs the last two seasons, with quarterback Sam Bradford and tackle Jake Long, neither of whom is still with the team.
Pead missed the 2014 season, also with a torn ACL.
“(ACL issues have) been a concern of ours. But every situation is different,” Fisher said. “We don’t have reservations about him getting back to full speed and 100 percent. That’s not going to be an issue with him.”
Snead pointed out that Gurley’s injury was the reason he fell to St. Louis.
“It was a bonus to be sitting there and 10 and get him,” he said. “It was a consensus that he’s a player that helps everybody, our defense, he helps our offense, our offensive line, our receivers, our quarterback. That’s the pick in a nutshell.”
“A talent like him comes along once in a great while,” Fisher added. “His body of work speaks for itself. The athletic ability, the strength, the explosion, the acceleration, the instincts he has as a runner. He also has great hands out of the backfield. He’s that complete back. We have a good group; we really like our group in the room, but this is an opportunity that we could not pass up.”
For the season, the 6-foot-1, 226-pound Gurley rushed for 911 yards on 123 attempts (7.4 per rush) and nine touchdowns in just six games. In his Georgia career, he totaled 3,285 yards and 36 touchdowns, averaging 6.4 yards per carry.
The pick of Gurley came after the Washington Redskins selected Iowa tackle/guard Brandon Scherff fifth overall and the New York Giants picked Miami tackle Ereck Flowers one spot ahead of the Rams. Three picks later, the New Orleans Saints chose Stanford tackle Andrus Peat.
So it was that a reporter asked, “I’ll be the smart-ass and ask, Who’s going to block for him?”
“They did make this thing a three-day event,” Snead replied. “We have to live through Friday and Saturday, so we’ll see if we can help improve that position there. We’ll still let the board guide us, but … we’re well aware.”
Gurley and quarterback Nick Foles sure hope so.
Who’s left on the line?
Alec Ogletree, Todd Gurley and Roger Goodell
MORE ON THE RAMSGurley remembers a bruisin’ from new/old Rams teammate Ogletree
Seven’s a crowd? Zac Stacy reacts to Rams drafting another RBThe second and third rounds will be conducted Friday, with the Rams owning the ninth pick in Round 2 (41st overall) and the eighth choice in Round 3 (72nd overall).
Seven offensive linemen were selected in the first round, leaving the following group of blockers available, according to rankings by NFLDraftScout.com:
T Jake Fisher, Oregon (31); T T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh (50); C Hronis Grasu, Oregon (61); G A.J. Cann, South Carolina (62); T Donovan Smith, Penn State (64); G Ali Marpet, Hobart (68); G Tre Jackson, Florida State (78); G/C Mitch Morse, Missouri (85).
Another Balzer article.May 22, 2015 at 9:58 am in reply to: A bunch of Rams articles from FOX Sports – Rams get a good grade in the draft #25090
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Fisher deviates from script, focuses on Rams’ offense in draft
Howard Balzer
FOX Sports MidwestMAY 02, 2015 8:28p ET
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May 1, 2015; St. Louis, MO, USA; St. Louis Rams head coach Jeff Fisher talks with the media about first round draft pick Todd Gurley (not pictured) during a press conference at Rams Park. Mandatory Credit: Jeff Curry-USA TODAY Sports
Jeff Curry / USA TODAY SportsJeff Fisher and the Rams may have drafted four offensive linemen at this year’s draft, but don’t mistake that for a “quantity over quality” approach.
ST. LOUIS — To say the 2015 draft was an unusual one for Rams coach Jeff Fisher would be an understatement of gargantuan proportions.
Fisher has been at this head coaching gig since 1995, and only once before did his team open the draft with a succession of more than one offensive player. Yes, this was the third time in four years with the Rams that the draft began with an offensive selection. But in each of those years, the choices of wide receiver Tavon Austin in 2013 and tackle Greg Robinson in 2014 were followed by two defensive players.
In 16 years at the helm of the Tennessee Titans (formerly the Houston Oilers), only seven times was offense the choice in the first round. And only in 2006 did the draft begin with two offensive players: quarterback Vince Young and running back LenDale White.
The offensive onslaught at this year’s draft began with the eye-opening selection of running back Todd Gurley at 10th overall and didn’t stop until Baylor linebacker Bryce Hager was picked in the seventh round (224th overall) with a choice St. Louis had acquired from the Jets for running back Zac Stacy.
In between, six other offensive players were picked, including four offensive linemen, Oregon State quarterback Sean Mannion and Mizzou wide receiver Bud Sasser.
Certainly, the strategy was fueled by the need to give assistant coach Paul Boudreau some (hopefully) able and (definitely) experienced bodies for his offensive line. That was achieved, at least on paper, with the addition of four linemen in the second (Wisconsin tackle Rob Havenstein, 42 starts), third (Louisville tackle, but projected guard, Jamon Brown, 40 starts), fourth (Iowa tackle Andrew Donnal, 16 starts) and sixth (Fresno State guard Cody Wichmann, 50 starts) rounds. Those four linemen combined for 148 starts in their college careers.
Donnal’s starts were limited because after becoming a starter in his sophomore season, he suffered a torn ACL (yes, that injury again) in his third start, but he came back a year later and participated in every game — he just didn’t start. Last season, however, he started all 13 games at right tackle.
In the three previous drafts, the Rams selected a total of six offensive linemen, but only two in the first four rounds: Robinson in 2014 and center Barrett Jones in the fourth round of the 2013 draft. Jones is expected to compete for the starting job with Demetrius Rhaney, a seventh-round pick last year who spent the season on injured reserve, and Tim Barnes.
The other two choices were tackle Mitchell Van Dyk (seventh round, 2014), who is currently on the Steelers’ roster, and guard Rokevious Watkins (fifth round, 2012), who has eaten his way out of the NFL.
General manager Les Snead says that the Rams “studied the OL as hard as any position this year,” and notes that the average round in which starting guards and right tackles were drafted is 3.6.
“It was not hard at all,” responded Fisher when asked if it was tough to stick with offense for so long. “Every team is different. Every situation is different. Every draft is different. But we clearly entered this draft collectively feeling that we were going to come away with some solid offensive linemen. We feel good about it.”
Beyond that, the results of this year’s draft became an illustrative primer in how Fisher wants this team to truly reflect the image and style he desires.
His Titans became a force in the NFL with Eddie George running behind a large and physical offensive line. From 1999 through 2003, Tennessee and St. Louis tied for the most regular-season wins in the league. It was no secret why.
Now, with the addition of a healthy Gurley running behind a huge line, Fisher hopes to begin duplicating those halcyon days in Nashville.
Just check out the linemen added in the draft since a year ago: Robinson (6-5, 332), Havenstein (6-7, 321), Brown (6-4, 323), Donnal (6-6, 313) and Wichmann (6-6, 315). Also added to the group is this year’s unrestricted free-agent signing of Garrett Reynolds (6-7, 305), who has experience playing for Boudreau in Atlanta.
“We’ve got two big, strong, physical players that extend plays, that finish plays, that go downfield,” Fisher said after Day 2. “They’re mauler-types. They’re very, very aggressive, so they’re going to fit our style.”
It wasn’t surprising then, to hear Donnal describe himself.
“I view myself as a blue-collar grinder,” he said. “I’m a guy that’s going to come out and work my ass off every day to be the best that I can possibly be. I thoroughly enjoy just playing football, being an offensive lineman and moving the guy from point A to point B against his will. Protecting the quarterback and mauling inside. There’s nothing better.”
Jan 1, 2014; Tampa, Fl, USA; Iowa Hawkeyes offensive linesman Andrew Donnal (78) against the LSU Tigers during the second half at Raymond James Stadium. LSU Tigers defeated the Iowa Hawkeyes 21-14. Mandatory Credit: Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports“It’s been a long time coming, particularly because of the needs,” Fisher said of this year’s haul. “After Todd, our focus went to the big guys. All of them finish; that’s the thing we really like. They’re downfield, they’re pushing people over piles, they’re aggressive and they’re finishing. As (Rams GM) Les (Snead) said about Cody, ‘If you’re somewhere in the vicinity, he’s gonna hit you.’ There’s some contact involved, and that’s the mindset that we need to carry forward. But it’s also not something that we have to teach; it’s the way they play right now.”
Fisher took exception when it was suggested that he and Snead drafted a glut of linemen with the hopes that at least a few would work out.
“We didn’t throw darts,” he said. “We think these guys can play. Now, we’ll have a much better idea once we get them in here, but we feel they all can come in and contribute. They are durable, they’re smart, they’re well coached and they’re going to fit in.
“We’re building this team for the future and I think we’re establishing an identity right now.”
There’s no need to expand on what that identity means. What’s in question is where that “future” will be. But that’s a discussion for another day.
Howard Balzer can be heard daily on Lunchtime Live with Howard Balzer from 11 a.m.-1 p.m. weekdays on TalkSTL.com 1380 AM.
May 22, 2015 at 9:22 am in reply to: Why the St Louis Rams Offensive Line is Fine & a few articles from that site #25084
AgamemnonParticipantRams Plan To Start Two Rookies On Offensive Line
by Colin Hubbard 6d ago
http://ramblinfan.com/2015/05/16/rams-plan-to-start-two-rookies-on-offensive-line/The NFL offseason is in the home stretch with training camp set to kickoff at the end of July. As the roster stands right now, two of the Ramsâ projected starters on the offensive line are rookies. Insert Robert Havenstein and Jamon Brown.
Havenstein is the projected RT for the St. Louis Rams while Brown is the projected LG. No team ever wants to start a rookie at tackle for numerous reasons. For one, this is the best chance that a player has at sacking your quarterback. And another huge reason being the speed difference.
NFL speed verses college speed are polar opposites. It usually takes a rookie tackle a year or two in order to adjust to NFL speed. Havenstein has two things going for him. He has great length and gave up hardly any sacks in college. But playing at Wisconsin, how many good defensive ends did he line up against?
Havensteinâs main attribute is his run-blocking ability. And that will be greatly needed heading into 2015. The Rams will make their presence known in the run game. And Havenstein will be an intricate part of that success. But, when it comes time to throw the ball, Havenstein will likely struggle against the top pass rushers in the NFL. We as Ramsâ fans will have to live with it and hope he progresses as the season moves along.
Top pass rushers that the Rams will see in 2015 include:
Elvis Dumervil, BAL â 17 sacks
Ryan Kerrigan, WSH â 13.5 sacks
Everson Griffen, MIN â 12 sacks
Clay Matthews, GB â 11 sacks
Brown is a pick I really liked for the Rams. Brown is penciled in as the new LG while the second string is rookie teammate Cody Wichmann. This looks a little troublesome. Not only would you rather have an experienced guard as your starter, but to have your backup a rookie as well, sets up for an interesting season. Brown has great size and strength. And while Brown will likely beat out Wichmann for the starting spot, how Brown will stand up to 300 pound defensive tackles and linebackers remains to be seen. Brown also excels in run blocking. So, we can expect the Rams to run the ball 60 percent of the time with this current offensive line.
Joe Barksdale still remains a free agent and is still being pursued by the St. Louis Rams. With the Falcons signing another tackle in recent days, many believe Barksdale is no longer considered to be a high priority for the Falcons. This gives the Rams a great chance in bringing him back to St. Louis.
It will be very fun to watch these young guys go through the ups-and-downs of an NFL season. Gotta love it!
May 22, 2015 at 9:19 am in reply to: Why the St Louis Rams Offensive Line is Fine & a few articles from that site #25083
AgamemnonParticipantHow good is the Rams Receiving Core?
by Colin Hubbard 1w ago
http://ramblinfan.com/2015/05/13/how-good-is-the-rams-receiving-core/
When it comes to the St. Louis Rams, nobody speaks of their receiving core. It is easily the most overlooked part of their offense.The Rams might not have the biggest named receivers, but they involve several young talents who finally have a quarterback to throw them the ball.
The Rams will use Brian Quick, Kenny Britt, Tavon Austin, Stedman Bailey, Jared Cook and Lance Kendricks as the main targets in 2015.
Quick has 54 career receptions, 833 yards and seven touchdowns in three years. Quickâs 6-4, 209 pound frame at the age of 25 will give Foles a big target on the outside.
Britt hauled in 48 receptions, 748 yards and three touchdowns in 2014. In Brittâs six NFL seasons, 48 catches is the most he has had in a season. This is the most interesting player of the bunch. Britt is believed by many to possess the traits that a number one receiver would have, but has yet to be used to his full potential.
Bailey has just 47 career receptions, 661 yards and one touchdown in five career starts. So again, we arenât really sure how good he really is. But, with his young age, Bailey will be another solid target for Foles to use.
Austin has 71 career receptions, 660 yards and four touchdowns, but zero in 2014. Austin also rushed for 224 yards in 2014 and found the end-zone two times. Austin will likely see a lot of trick plays and rushes in 2015. He hasnât been the receiver we as Rams fans have wanted him to be, but one thing we know is, if you give Austin the ball in space, he will make you pay. And Foles will be able to do a better job of getting Austin in those positions.
Cook, since coming over from the Titans, has been targeted 184 times, but has only caught 103 passes. At the age of 28, Cook is the most experienced receiver the Rams use. If I am Foles, Cook is my number one, third down receiver.
Kendricks, in his four years, has been a great red-zone target, hauling in five touchdowns in 2014. It will be interesting to see how often both Cook and Kendricks are on the field on at the same time in 2015. They as tight ends, give the rams two big bodies who can both catch the football.
Cook is the oldest receiver out of this bunch at the age of 28. And while none of them have pulled away from the others, Foles will use each of them a lot better than Austin Davis or any other quarterback throwing to them ever has.
St. Louis will run the ball a lot in 2015. With Todd Gurley and Tre Mason patrolling the backfield, who wouldnât want the run game to come first? But like many people know, when youâre down a touchdown with two minutes remaining in the game, itâs up to Foles and this receiving core to get the ball from point A to point B.
So, who will be the best receiver in 2015? There are plenty of solid names to choose from.
May 22, 2015 at 9:18 am in reply to: Why the St Louis Rams Offensive Line is Fine & a few articles from that site #25082
AgamemnonParticipantHow Long Does St Louis Wait on Todd Gurley?
by Nic Moody 1w ago
http://ramblinfan.com/2015/05/15/how-long-does-st-louis-wait-on-todd-gurley/The St Louis Rams have a very important decision to make. One that can possibly have a huge impact on their season and could be the difference between another losing season, and possible playoff berth. That question is, how long should the Rams wait? How long do they hold Todd Gurley out?
ACL injuries are quite scary, mainly because they will knock a player out for an entire season and seem to happen more and more in football today. Although the number of ACL injuries seem to increase year by year, the medicine behind them has advanced far enough to make them way less career threatening. In the 60âs, 70âs, and 80âs, ACL injuries ruined careers. If your favorite player tore his ACL, it was likely the last you would see of him, or if you did, he wouldnât be the same.
Today that is not the case, as we watched Adrian Peterson tear his ACL late in 2011, only to come back and win MVP for 2012. Jamaal Charles tore his ACL only to come back the next year and have a career year himself. Many other recent Running backs have been able to come back the next season after the tear and perform just as good, if not better, than before.
According to a study conducted by Sports medicine, the average player who tears their ACL drops one-third in performance. This number can be all over the board however, as the position also plays a huge role in how a player is affected by an ACL tear. This study also stated that 79% of players who suffered the tear did return to play football at the professional level.
These numbers are interesting to look at, but there are just so many variables that come into play that will shift these numbers. How bad was the tear? Was it a clean tear? How did the surgery go? Who did the Surgery? How tough is the player? I could honestly go on, but I am sure you get the point.
Where does Gurley fall in this equation? Gurley had a non-contact clean tear, which was performed by one of the best in the business when it comes to ACL surgery. So far his rehab has gone completely normal, as this was reported by trainers and was deeply investigated by St Louis before they drafted him. These factors are great news for Rams fans. Gurleyâs toughness is what will ultimately save him though. He plays through pain a lot, and rarely shows signs of weakness. Even when he tore the ACL in game, he was walking on it and showed no signs of pain or fear. He loves to play and will do everything he can to get back on the field, which is why I think he will recover and succeed.
So How long should St Louis wait? If I had to give an honest answer, it would be that he could go back in game one. Peterson tore his ACL in December, and still made it back for week one. Gurley tore his ACL in November, so he will meet the nine month rehab for most ACL tears. I donât think St Louis should start him day one, but week one could be a prime opportunity to give him five or six carries to let him warm up to the offense. That would allow a few more carries for week two, and so on and so forth.
So why donât the Rams just wait and not rush him? Well although that would be the perfect scenario, it doesnât help them win any games. If the Rams wait until week five to start Gurley, this means that he will take a few games for him to adjust, which means he will only be in his prime state for the last half of the season. While this doesnât seem like a terrible thing, one must remember that because of the division the Rams play in, and the toughness of their schedule, they need Gurley for every game they can get him for.
Gurley will be closely monitored by St Louis to ensure that he is ready to go and doesnât come back too early. Although he shouldnât be rushed, The Rams do not need to waste any time making sure he is on the field as soon as he is ready to go.
May 22, 2015 at 9:15 am in reply to: Why the St Louis Rams Offensive Line is Fine & a few articles from that site #25081
AgamemnonParticipantAre The St. Louis Rams Headed Into A Building Year?
by Blaine Grisak 5d ago
http://ramblinfan.com/2015/05/16/are-the-st-louis-rams-headed-into-a-building-year/After two seven win seasons and a six win season there is no question there is a lot of pressure on head coach Jeff Fisher and the St. Louis Rams to take the next step and make a playoff run. After years of 2, 3, and one win years under Steve Spagnuolo and now three years of mediocrity, to say the least, fans are ready to win, and theyâre ready to win now.
However, by the way the Rams drafted and the way that this season is shaping up, it feels as if this year may go the complete opposite. Yes, the Rams have a potentially elite defense and acquired a quarterback that can hopefully stay healthy for an entire season, but this team is still missing key pieces. After three years in the Jeff Fisher era, this is still a team that is built to win for the future rather than right now.
To expect the Rams to compete with at the very least two rookies starting on the offensive line and that doesnât include Greg Robinson who will be in only his second year is unrealistic. These players will need time to grow.
They drafted Rob Havenstein who could be a mauler up front. The drafted Jamon Brown who is a big guy that they can plug inside, but played at tackle at Louisville. Certainly he will need time to learn the position.
As mentioned above, its unrealistic to expect these players to come in and dominate right away and thats if they pan out. The Rams drafted developmental players that are going to need time to learn the game.
Winning in the NFL starts up front, and the Rams simply arenât ready to win up front, at least on the offensive side of the ball. The Rams have struggled to compete with the defensive lines of Arizona, Seattle, and San Francisco over the past two years because of the weak offensive line.
Snead and Fisher made steps to fix that, but unlike when they signed Jake Long in the offseason a couple of years ago, this wonât be an immediate fix. This product is going to be something that takes this year and maybe another year until its ready.
The examples above are all on the offensive line, but even look at the Ramsâ first round pick Todd Gurley. This is a player that may not be ready to play right away, but yet Fisher has called him the running back of the future. By the sounds of it, the Rams have no intention to win right now.
âThis is the running back of our future. It makes no sense to put him in a bad situation sooner than we have to.â-Jeff FisherAs much as some, including myself, dont want to hear it, the Rams are heading into a building year. That doesnât mean that they will have another season in which they win two or three games and end up with the number one overall pick. No, this team is better than that. The defense alone will win them games.
Jeff Fisherâs worst seasons in the NFL were in 2004 and 2005 and even then his teams won four and five games and then were back on the mediocre trail in 2006 winning eight games.
It is imminent that the Rams are headed into a building year in 2015. While they have veteran leadership on defense, that is something they are missing on the offensive side of the ball where they are very young.
Fans are ready for the Rams to take the next step, but by the way things are shaping out, it looks like that may have to wait until 2016 or 2017.
May 22, 2015 at 8:54 am in reply to: Why the St Louis Rams Offensive Line is Fine & a few articles from that site #25079
AgamemnonParticipantMay 22, 2015 at 8:50 am in reply to: Why the St Louis Rams Offensive Line is Fine & a few articles from that site #25078
AgamemnonParticipantHow Much Offense Will St. Louis Produce in 2015?
by Colin Hubbard 6h ago
http://ramblinfan.com/2015/05/22/how-much-offense-will-st-louis-produce-in-2015/With the 2015 season in fast approach, the St. Louis Rams have transformed their offense into what many expect to be a lot better than years past. But, how much should we really expect as fans? Here is a look at where the Rams have ranked in total team offense of the course of the past few years.
2014 â 28th 314.7
2013- 30th 304.8
2012- 23rd 329.0
2011- 31st 283.6
2010- 26th 302.9
2009- 29th 279.4
2008 â 27th 287.2
2007 24th 297.5
2006 6th 360.4
The Rams havenât averaged more yards a game than a Superbowl winner of that year since 2006. Since then, the Rams have ranked 23rd or worse. In that span, the Rams have made zero playoff appearances and had zero NFC West titles.
As a matter of fact, the Rams have won the NFC West just once (2003) since the Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints and Carolina Panthers left to join the newly formed NFC South in 2002.
I fully expect the Rams to finish somewhere in the teens this year in total offense, but history says otherwise. Nick
Foles is the best quarterback the Rams have had arguably since Kurt Warner. Marc Bulger had a solid career, but Foles has a much higher ceiling. Todd Gurley might be as good as if not better than Steven Jackson, but donât expect them to do anything with the offensive line they have in front of them.
For whatever reason, Ramsâ fans believe that rookies, who have never played in an NFL game will make an impact right away. And that they will âteach themselves.â That isnât how offensive lines work. Look at the Falcons for example. They went from nearly going to a Superbowl in 2012 an a solid offensive line to one of the worst in the matter of seven months. They thought rookies like Lamar Holmes, Peter Konz would be able to fill voids that the team lost in the offseason. They were sadly mistaken.
And guess who they brought in to replace Michael Turner? Oh wait, that would be Jackson. We all know how that wenât. Hard to run through holes when their arenât any to run through.
So what makes you honestly think that two rookie starters will lead the Rams to their first playoff berth since 2004? In a division full of nasty defenses? Folesâ pure talent will be enough to bring the Ramsâ offense to a level they havenât reached in a few years, and Gurley will have a solid rookie campaign. But, you wonât see their full potential due to the fact that the Rams have one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL.
As far as I see it, bringing in Foles and Gurley is wasting their time and potential. And it isnât doing any good to have high expectations either. Take everything with a grain of salt. You will thank me later.
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