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April 2, 2016 at 5:48 pm #41359AgamemnonParticipant
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2016 NFL Draft: Would you take kicker Roberto Aguayo in second/third round?At Florida State’s pro day, Roberto Aguayo told NFL Media’s Albert Breer that his goal was to be selected in the second round of the 2016 NFL Draft.
A kicker coming off the board in Round 2? Keep dreamin’, kid …
Or not. Former NFL scout Daniel Jeremiah says he can see the former Seminole coming off the board in the second round — and that the kicker definitely won’t make it past Round 3. This would put Aguayo, who decided to enter the draft after his junior season, in rarified air. We haven’t seen a placekicker selected in the first three rounds since 2005, when the Jets grabbed Mike Nugent in Round 2 and the Chiefs snatched up Dustin Colquitt in Round 3. Of course, we all remember when another Seminole, Sebastian Janikowski, went to the Raiders in Round 1 at No. 17 overall.
All of this — and the recent decision to permanently leave extra points at the 15-yard line — raises one obvious question: Would you take a kicker on Day 2 (Round 2/3)?
Charley Casserly
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+ Follow On TwitterYeah, this could make sense, given the general rate of returns on Day 2 picks
Yes, I would be open to taking a kicker on Day 2. A second-round pick only has a 50 percent chance of starting within four years. A third-round pick only has a 30-33 percent chance to start within four years. If you are sure he is the guy, the percentages say to take him. The kicker can win games for you and affect field position with his kickoff ability.The reason to not take him is only nine of the 32 primary kickers in the NFL last season were drafted at all (the others originally entered the league as undrafted free-agent signees). It is clearly an area where you can find a solution without expending any draft capital. I knew a team that hired a coach whose sole job was to concentrate on finding a punter and kicker without drafting one. It can be done and can save you money/draft picks.
Usually the team that drafts a kicker high is either a good team that can afford to use a second- or third-round pick on a specialist instead of a position player. The other scenario where a kicker could be taken high in the draft is when a team has extra picks. The compensatory picks start in the third round — a round where you might see a team take Roberto Aguayo.
Lance Zierlein
Writer | NFL.com
+ Follow On TwitterNothing against the talented Aguayo, but I just couldn’t do it
I simply couldn’t pull the trigger on a kicker with a pick that high. I think Roberto Aguayo is a valuable player and I could see him coming off the board by sometime in the third round. But unless my kicking situation was an absolute mess last season and I had an extra middle-round pick, I don’t think I would be willing to draft Aguayo that early. That’s just a personal philosophy, I suppose.Jeffri Chadiha
Writer | NFL.com
+ Follow On TwitterTaking a kicker this high is nonsensical — just look at Sebastian Janikowski
Unless I’ve missed something, there’s never a good reason to use a high draft pick on a kicker. Teams can find plenty of viable options at that position in free agency, and other spots simply bring more value to an organization. Just look at the decision by late Raiders owner Al Davis to select Sebastian Janikowski with the 17th overall pick in the 2000 draft. Janikowski has made one Pro Bowl in 16 seasons, while the Raiders haven’t had a winning campaign in the last 13 years. You can’t blame all that futility on one man, but this much we do know: It’s highly unlikely any kicker taken so high will ever change a franchise’s fortunes.Nate Burleson
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+ Follow On TwitterNo doubt about it: If a kicker’s money, I’ll spend a second- or third-rounder on him
It depends on the draft class, but if the kicker is proven, then yes: I’d 100 percent take a kicker in Round 2 or 3. If a guy can go a season and do his job consistently — which is what coaches want at every position — then he is a valuable commodity. Sometimes people think that kickers aren’t players that teams want to waste money on, but it’s not a bad investment.In the third, fourth or fifth rounds, teams are often shaking the dice and hoping their draft picks pan out. If you have a guy who is a proven kicker in college and that’s your team need, then you should take that risk because he’ll most likely be used right away.
Solomon Wilcots
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+ Follow On TwitterI’d need the kicker to possess a game-changing leg and ice in his veins
The only way I would take a kicker that early is if he was a dual-threat. Priority No. 1 is he would have to be a really good field-goal kicker — because points are involved there — and he has to be able to execute a kick when the game is on the line. Secondly, the kicker would have to have an exceptional, booming leg, like Sebastian Janikowski had when he entered the league. Then I would say yes. But if the kicker is just an average cat making 70 percent of field goals, then no way.Chase Goodbread
Writer | NFL.com
+ Follow On TwitterDay 2 picks are NOT for kickers
Definitely not. The importance of a good kicker isn’t going anywhere, but neither is the availability of one. There’s a reason kickers don’t break the bank at contract time. Finding a reliable guy isn’t impossible after the draft, much less during it.For a team that’s struggled to find a consistent kicker, a late draft pick is somewhere between reasonable and advisable. But second-day picks are for prospects who are going to be on the field more than a few snaps per game.
Willie McGinest
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+ Follow On TwitterKickers put points on the board, right? I’m open to this if it fills a need
There are a lot of teams who lost close games last season, and we’ve seen how important kickers are with the lengthened PATs. If a team has greater needs at other positions, those need to be addressed first. However, points that a kicker offers you are desperately needed, so I would be open-minded about taking a kicker in the second or third round if it’s what my team needed.
April 2, 2016 at 6:35 pm #41365bnwBlockedNo more wasted picks on kickers. Why can’t teams develop that talent in house? I was hopeful with GZ as a 7th but he has gotten worse and he played half his games in a dome!
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April 2, 2016 at 9:35 pm #41369InvaderRamModeratori would in the third if he’s that good. maybe i’m remembering it wrong. but a lot of games lost on misses field goals the past 2 years.
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