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    Scouting the Scouts: Brad Holmes, Director of College Scouting
    Brad Holmes overseas the Rams area scouts. See how his role played out during the 2019 NFL Draft.

    vid link: https://www.therams.com/video/scouting-the-scouts-brad-holmes-director-of-college-scouting

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    Scouting the Scouts: How did David Long Jr. + David Edwards impress area scout Brian Hill?
    Brian Hill is an area scout for the Rams. See how his role played out during the 2019 NFL Draft.

    vid link: https://www.therams.com/video/scouting-the-scouts-area-scout-brian-hill

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    Scouting the Scouts: Billy Johnson, the area scout who scoped out Darrell Henderson
    Billy Johnson is an area scout for the Rams. See how his role played out during the 2019 NFL Draft.

    vid link:
    https://www.therams.com/video/scouting-the-scouts-billy-johnson-the-area-scout-who-scoped-out

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    Andrew Brandt@AndrewBrandt
    Remember John Dorsey walking out in post-Draft minicamp, taking one look at a 5th round pick and telling me “We f—d up with that one. He can’t play.”

    Russell Lande@RUSSLANDE
    I still remember a few scouts coming in after Lawrence Phillips first practice with Rams and they were stunned how stiff and upright he was, which scared them a ton.

    Evan Silva@evansilva
    I think there was a similar story about Rams No. 2 overall pick Jason Smith out of Baylor I believe. They knew right away he didn’t have it

    Beto@_BMule
    I get offended when Rams fans try to equate Darrell Henderson to what Chris Thompson was for Washington. Henderson is better and should have far more production. If he’s Thompson then that’s a let down straight up.

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    Cooks is good, but I hope he is working on catching the ball in contested-catch-situations. A committed professional would be working on his weaknesses.

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    #100970
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    Cooks is good, but I hope he is working on catching the ball in contested-catch-situations. A committed professional would be working on his weaknesses.

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    I don’t think there’s much he can do about that, WV. I think it’s just a flaw of his.

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    #100978
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    Anybody else notice zn slipping in a little of his Pro-Seahawks agenda?

    We need to band together, and be vigilant about calling him out on this, or he could reach his goal of flipping this board to a Seahawks fan board.

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    Anybody else notice zn slipping in a little of his Pro-Seahawks agenda?

    I am actually kind of concerned by Metcalf!

    But then on the other side of the coin there’s also this:

    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    At the age of 30, Seahawks WR Doug Baldwin might be unable to play again due to the cumulative effect of multiple injuries, per sources. There is a real chance that Baldwin, one of the Seahawks’ best and most popular players, has played his last NFL down, a source said Friday.

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    Jim Nagy@JimNagy_SB
    Rookie mini-camp is an exciting time for NFL staffs but there are some “oh, crap” moments where teams immediately know a player they just drafted isn’t what they thought he was. I was with a team once that took a skill player in Rd. 3 and we knew right away it was a bad pick.

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    from 2019 NFL Draft: Ranking all 40 trades

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2019-nfl-draft-ranking-all-40-trades-from-cardinals-poor-return-for-josh-rosen-to-the-first-round-deal-at-no-1/

    39. Rams add Gurley insurance
    Rams get No. 70 (RB Henderson)
    Buccaneers get No. 94, 99
    I’m not surprised the Rams would want to bring in a plan B at the running back position after Todd Gurley dealt with injuries at the end of last year. I’m just surprised how big a price they paid to do it. They lost the value of the No. 167 pick to make the move, and I’m not sure about overpaying that much to go get running backs in this era of the NFL. I like Darrell Henderson as a prospect, but after bringing back Malcolm Brown, I think the Rams would have been smarter just keeping their pair of late third-round picks and going a different route at running back.

    38. Rams, Patriots make another deal
    Rams get No. 97 (OT Evans), 162
    Patriots get No. 101, 133
    The Rams initially got No. 101 by moving down in the second round in a deal with the Patriots, then got impatient once the end of Round 3 drew near and traded it back to the Patriots to move up a few spots for tackle Bobby Evans. The problem isn’t just the four-pick jump wasn’t worth falling back 29 picks in the rest of the deal, but that the Patriots at No. 101 took a tackle that could very well be better than Evans in Yodny Cajuste.

    17. Rams jump for D-line help
    Rams get No. 134 (DT Gaines), 243
    Patriots get No. 162, 167
    Good value here for the Rams thanks to getting that extra pick back in the deal, and Greg Gaines is a solid prospect who can help offset the loss of Ndamukong Suh to free agency. After they missed out on the top D-line talent in Round 1 and decided to trade back, Gaines was a solid fall-back option who didn’t come at a prohibitive price.

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    The problem isn’t just the four-pick jump wasn’t worth falling back 29 picks in the rest of the deal, but that the Patriots at No. 101 took a tackle that could very well be better than Evans in Yodny Cajuste.

    Unless of course Evans ends up as a guard.

    And AK knows his guards.

    Classic example of abstract rankings not accounting for “team & scheme fit.” As I sometimes say, if you had access to the top 100 players list from all 32 teams, chances are great no 2 would be the same, or even all that similar. There’s a good chance that if you combined all 32 top 100 lists, you would end up with a list with more than 200 names on it.

    And besides, “Cajuste” is a name that echoes Rams PRIOR drafts (Goff, Ebukam, Noteboom, Okoronkwo, Demby). THIS Rams draft was all about boring mainstream names (Henderson, Evans, Edwards, Long).

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    Anybody else notice zn slipping in a little of his Pro-Seahawks agenda?

    I am actually kind of concerned by Metcalf!

    Enh. Just put Long on him.

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    “Pete Carroll marveling after first day with WR D.K. Metcalf about his quick feet and speed with his size. “He’s maybe more unique than we even thought.”

    Personally, and I’m probably on another one of those islands on this . . . I would have preferred a pick of Metcalf over Rapp. And I’m guessing the Rams considered it. But knowing they’re loaded at wideout, and safety not so much . . . I think that nixed that.

    He’s a 4.3 guy, with excellent athleticism overall, and nearly 6’4″. He’s gonna be able to do what Cooks can’t, as far as win contested catches.

    I think I’d rather have Metcalf than Cooks, though I the latter is a very good receiver, and tough, especially considering his size. He plays hard, and we don’t know if Metcalf will in the Pros. The Rams will get some answers twice a year or more. They’ll also face an even bigger receiver, Hakeem Butler, who if someone could draw up the perfect wideout from a physical standpoint, he’d be it.

    It was the wrong year for a receiver like that to fall into their laps. The Rams have bigger needs elsewhere. But Metcalf was likely the BPA over Rapp, if that’s the criterion and not “need.”

    #100993
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    “Pete Carroll marveling after first day with WR D.K. Metcalf about his quick feet and speed with his size. “He’s maybe more unique than we even thought.”

    Personally, and I’m probably on another one of those islands on this . . . I would have preferred a pick of Metcalf over Rapp. And I’m guessing the Rams considered it. But knowing they’re loaded at wideout, and safety not so much . . . I think that nixed that.

    He’s a 4.3 guy, with excellent athleticism overall, and nearly 6’4″. He’s gonna be able to do what Cooks can’t, as far as win contested catches.

    I think I’d rather have Metcalf than Cooks, though I the latter is a very good receiver, and tough, especially considering his size. He plays hard, and we don’t know if Metcalf will in the Pros. The Rams will get some answers twice a year or more. They’ll also face an even bigger receiver, Hakeem Butler, who if someone could draw up the perfect wideout from a physical standpoint, he’d be it.

    It was the wrong year for a receiver like that to fall into their laps. The Rams have bigger needs elsewhere. But Metcalf was likely the BPA over Rapp, if that’s the criterion and not “need.”

    I agree with all that. We know the value Cooks has. But we also know that if you force the offense to rely heavily on him (eg. if Kupp is out and the defense doubles Woods), then he can’t become the well-rounded dominating receiver that he’s not. As a dedicated deep threat receiver he certainly has more to his game than either Avery or Givens did, but, he has something of a ceiling to him too I think.

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    I agree with all that. We know the value Cooks has. But we also know that if you force the offense to rely heavily on him (eg. if Kupp is out and the defense doubles Woods), then he can’t become the well-rounded dominating receiver that he’s not. As a dedicated deep threat receiver he certainly has more to his game than either Avery or Givens did, but, he has something of a ceiling to him too I think.

    Good comparisons via Avery and Givens. Yes, Cooks is better than either of those receivers . . . though Avery got hurt a few times, and it likely prevented him from being all he could be. Still not the answer for contested catches, nor was Givens. Avery was even faster than Cooks, amazingly enough, and Givens was seriously fast in the 100 meters.

    Also good point about the loss of Kupp. It just kills their game plan. I’m a big fan of Woods, and I think he made some amazing catch and runs that were the difference in several games, but he lacks some of what Cooks lacks as well. Love that the Rams picked him up, and I don’t see that offense being nearly as successful without him . . . but the Rams seem to have some duplication among the wideouts, and a key absence. One could argue that Woods and Kupp are both #2 receivers, and Cooks is a slot guy, and they don’t have the traditional #1 — the Red Zone guy, the deep ball, contested catch guy.

    (No expert on this, but I’m assuming the Rams don’t think in those terms to begin with. They don’t see the need for a #1 type. But I do.)

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    Jalen Houng@Jalen_houng
    @SoftliSEA how do you think Metcalf will react when PP, Talib, and Sherm all get their chance at him? All those guys are dogs, and live for competition.

    Tony Softli@SoftliSEA
    He brings some unique skill set to the field, there will be a learning curve no doubt. That will be his challenge playing in the grown mans league. #seahawks

    Warren Sharp@SharpFootball
    Crazy to think there are just 3 Offensive Coordinators that have been w their team more than one year:

    10 yrs: Pete Carmichael (NO)
    7 yrs: Josh McDaniels (NE)
    3 yrs: Ken Whisenhunt (LAC)

    Nearly half the NFL (15 tms) will have coaches in their 1st year calling plays w that team.

    ProFootballTalk@ProFootballTalk
    Free agency could get a boost on Tuesday when the compensatory draft-pick formula gets turned off

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    2020 draft picks.

    Ramik Wilson signed with Jacksonville. It is not a 7th round comp pick, though. Wilson signed for 800,000 so it does not even count because if a contract is for less than 1.6 million a year, it will be below the 32nd comp pick. Only 32 picks are awarded each year. Also, the rams sent their 2020 5th round pick to Jacksonville for Fowler (19 3rd and a 20 5th). So currently they have eight picks (1, 2, 3, 4, comp 4, comp 4, 6, 7).

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    https://www.rotoworld.com/article/rankings/nfl-draft-grades-using-analytics?sf212180639=1&page=2

    Fun Fact: The Rams had the best success rate on drafted defensive players over 2004-2014, but they also had worst success rate on drafted offensive players during that same time span.

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