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    Michael Giardi@MikeGiardi
    A pre free agency primer: there are 324 players currently on NFL rosters who signed during free agency last year. Only four of those players (1.2 pct) made the 2019 Pro Bowl, and two were special teamers : C Mike Pouncey, TE Eric Ebron, RS Andre Roberts, and ST Michael Thomas.

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    #98714
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    John Johnson III’s 84.3 overall grade last season ranked 6th among safeties

    yeah. this is the key. if he can take another step and be an elite safety. and weddle can be just a modest improvement over lamarcus. defensive backfield could be set. i think weddle could be very good for jj to take that next step.

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    Andrew Brandt@AndrewBrandt
    NFL teams have fans and media trained (brainwashed?): when player is released with tens of millions vanishing on his contract, reaction is not about player, but about how much cash/Cap that clears for team.

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    David Frum@davidfrum
    Dogs dont understand why their dinner should be delayed because humans must fiddle with the clocks

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    Downtown Rams @DowntownRams
    Sounds like Saffold is coming back.

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    Downtown Rams @DowntownRams

    Sounds like Saffold is coming back.

    Good news, if it is true?

    Agamemnon

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    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    The one-year deal route always made sense for Dante Fowler Jr. He gets to further establish a bigger market for himself in a system that suits him with a #Rams team he enjoys playing for and in a city he really liked upon getting traded here.

    Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
    On Rams needs: Yes, they need to bulk up OL depth, but if Saffold leaves in FA, Joe Noteboom can slide into that spot. Micah Kiser is a candidate to start at ILB, but Rams certainly must find some ILBs for depth, if not a starter.

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    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    Just an FYI on #Rams DL Michael Brockers: I’ve been told pretty emphatically there are no plans to release or trade him.

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    How re-signing Dante Fowler Jr. impacts Rams' offseason plans

    OLB isn’t off the table in Round 1 of the draft

    The Rams filled a major need at outside linebacker by keeping Fowler in the mix for another year, but that doesn’t take the position off the table in the draft. Fowler is more or less a short-term solution with the possibility of becoming a long-term option if he performs well in 2019. In no way should Fowler’s return cause the Rams to pass up a dynamic pass rusher in the draft if someone like Brian Burns were to somehow fall to them at No. 31.

    What re-signing Fowler does do is free up the Rams to take the best player available rather than feeling forced to draft an outside pass rusher. If the best player is a nose tackle or a left guard, they can take him without being pressured into selecting an outside linebacker.

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    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    They also redshirted/developed sixth-round pick Sebastian Joseph-Day last year, a guy they believe has a future.

    Him being on the active roster was reflective of what they thought of him and the confidence they had he could perform if called upon. But the ideal situation was for him to learn and develop, which he was able to do. It’ll be interesting to see that development in OTA’s/camp

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    Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
    The #Raiders are expected to sign for former #Rams franchise player, safety Lamarcus Joyner, sources say. A free safety that gives them speed in the secondary.

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    If a Morse can get that, what can Saffold get?
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    Joyner’s deal is for four years at around $10.5 million per year, according to ESPN.
    That was enough for a 3rd round comp pick last year, but maybe not enough this year?

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    That was enough for a 3rd round comp pick last year, but maybe not enough this year?

    I;ve been hearing it’s more like a 4th.

    #98837
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    That was enough for a 3rd round comp pick last year, but maybe not enough this year?

    I;ve been hearing it’s more like a 4th.

    I checked over-the-cap, $10.5M. Of course, this isn’t written is stone. https://overthecap.com/projecting-the-2019-compensatory-picks/

    Agamemnon

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    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    Looking at some of these deals flying around, the #Rams did well to get Eric Weddle when they did. As for Dante Fowler, he didn’t come cheap. But he’s also a known quantity to #Rams on a 1-year deal rather than an unknown with big guaranteed $$ and multiple years

    DL Jerry Tillery is a prospect of interest for #Rams, who met with him at combine. Anyone questioning his dedication to football, just keep in mind he played last 8 games of ’18 with a torn labrum.

    Tillery kept the severity of the injury on the DL save for a handful of people. He could have shut his season down and had surgery to start preparing for draft. Instead he gutted the season out then participated in every drill at combine before finally having surgery

    Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
    If the Rams made no other moves on defense, it would look like this.

    DT: Donald
    NT: Brockers
    DE: JFM
    OLBs: Fowler + Ebukam/Okoronkwo
    ILBs: Littleton + Kiser
    CBs: Peters, Talib, NRC
    S: JJ3, Weddle

    That’s a decent unit and more moves are sure to come.

    Gary Klein@LATimesklein
    FWIW, with caveat that math was not my best subject, in 2017 Rams paid CB Trumaine Johnson $16.7 million. Last year, entire starting secondary cost $24.8 million. In 2019, with starting secondary that features 13 combined Pro Bowl appearances, cost will be $23.2

    Lance Zierlein@LanceZierlein
    Smart NFL teams use free agency to caulk up the roster enough so that they don’t have to reach on draft day. When teams have gaping holes in your roster headed into the draft, they put themselves at the mercy of potential trade-aheads and below average for their actual pick(s)

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    Vinnie seems to get his stuff right. Maybe it is a 4th for Joyner?

    Agamemnon

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    Vinnie seems to get his stuff right. Maybe it is a 4th for Joyner?

    Yeah I think the numbers changed this year and went up with the cap.

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    Torn labrum? Wow. I have one now. It’s freakin painful just to reach for a book. The range of motion is seriously limited.

    I can’t imagine having to play on the defensive line with that injury.

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    Was hoping the Rams would get Morse. It may well be that their cap space is too small to add anyone until a few more rounds of signings.

    Not really unhappy they lost Joyner. But losing Saffold, if it happens, will hurt that line. He’s probably their best run-blocker and is seriously stout. Might be the strongest guy on the team.

    They probably needed to re-sign Fowler, but as mentioned above, that won’t change the need for getting another edge or two.

    It likely won’t come to this, but I’d be seriously conflicted if Lawrence and Burns were there for the Rams at #31. I’d love to have both of them on the team and it would be hard to choose. Probably Burns, by a nose. If they get Shelton, that makes the decision easier.

    They have more holes to fill than I had hoped.

    #98891
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    Vinnie seems to get his stuff right. Maybe it is a 4th for Joyner?

    Yeah I think the numbers changed this year and went up with the cap.

    Compensatory Draft Picks Cancellation Chart


    2 4th rounders.

    Agamemnon

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