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March 18, 2020 at 3:38 pm #112543znModerator
Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
The #Rams already have their replacement for Dante Fowler:They’re signing former #Bears first-round pick Leonard Floyd, sources tell me
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March 18, 2020 at 3:44 pm #112544znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
New Rams defensive coordinator Brandon Staley was Leonard Floyd’s position coach in Chicago in 2017 and 2018, so this obviously is an informed signing. Eyes wide open.March 18, 2020 at 3:45 pm #112545znModeratorBears Season in Review: Leonard Floyd
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-season-review-leonard-floyd
This was supposed to be the season that Bears outside linebacker Leonard Floyd finally lived up to his 2016 NFL Draft expectations. Remember those? Floyd was supposed to be Chicago’s version of Von Miller in then-coach John Fox’s defense. He was supposed to bring elite pass-rushing upside to a defense that was desperate to get after the quarterback.
Instead, Floyd has settled in as a well-rounded starting linebacker who’s better in coverage and against the run than he is at creating fear in opposing quarterbacks.
An argument can be made that Floyd’s failure to develop into a double-digit sack guy is what led GM Ryan Pace to pull the trigger on the Khalil Mack trade prior to the 2018 season. In a weird way, it’s the best thing Floyd’s done as a Bear.
But as is often the case when a premier player like Mack is added to a roster, expectations for his teammates are elevated. How can they not be? With all the attention opposing offensive lines pay to Mack, a player with as much alleged talent as Floyd should be able to capitalize on the favorable one-on-one situations he’d see.
Unfortunately, that hasn’t happened for Floyd in the two seasons playing opposite Mack. In fact, 2019 was his worst as a pass-rusher; he managed just three sacks despite playing all 16 games.
Floyd hasn’t been a complete bust for the Bears, however. He was the ninth-highest graded defender on the team this season, per Pro Football Focus, with a 69.8 season mark. It was the best PFF grade of his career even though his impact wasn’t all that noticeable on gamedays.
Is Floyd a serviceable starter? The answer is an obvious yes. But serviceable starters don’t get paid more than $13 million per year, and that’s what Floyd’s due in 2020 if the Bears keep their word and pick up his fifth-year option. Since Floyd remained healthy in 2019, Pace can rescind the fifth-year option if he so chooses. And with the Bears already facing salary-cap challenges, keeping that $13 million off the books makes a lot of sense.
The Bears could’ve done a lot worse than Floyd in 2019, but it became painfully obvious by midseason that Mack needed someone to step up as the Robin to his Batman. It was Floyd’s responsibility to be that guy, and he failed.
It would come as no surprise if we’ve seen the last of Floyd as a starter on the Bears’ defense.
March 18, 2020 at 3:58 pm #112546JackPMillerParticipantI could be wrong, but if I’m correct, since Floyd was let go, we don’t lose any comp picks for next year.
March 18, 2020 at 5:08 pm #112554AgamemnonParticipantMarch 18, 2020 at 6:23 pm #112562znModeratorhttp://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/leonard-floyd?id=2555285
“Bears defensive coordinator Vic Fangio was in San Francisco when it drafted Aldon Smith. Floyd is very similar. He is one of the most polarizing conversations in the entire draft. He has a ‘wow’ get-off and he bends like Gumby. I don’t know if he can convert speed to power in that pass rush. He has the best burst and get-off in this entire draft. He’s a sub-package, designated pass rusher on Day 1, just like Aldon Smith was in San Francisco.” — Mike Mayock
March 18, 2020 at 6:27 pm #112563znModeratordzrams
Fowler and Floyd were drafted in the same year in round 1. Fowler was drafted 3rd, Floyed 9th.
Both underachieved for the first 3 years of their career. Fowler exploded in 2019 but was that due to playing next to AD?
Let’s look at their stats over the 3 prior years (2016-2018):
Fowler
Combined Sacks: 21
PFF pass rush grade: 58.7 to 68.4
PFF overall defensive grade: 59.5 to 66.3Floyd
Combined Sacks: 19
PFF pass rush grade: 57.8 to 64.8
PFF overall defensive grade: 63.8 to 69.6Fowler has consistently had slightly better pass rush numbers with the PFF metrics and in sacks and QB hurries but Floyd has consistently been graded better in run defense and coverage. Looking at the overall PFF grade, it’s a wash.
I think Fowler benefited a lot from the AD factor
March 18, 2020 at 8:00 pm #112566Billy_TParticipantI was hoping they’d sign Floyd, but I think they wildly overpaid.
He was cut. That should have taken his salary down under 5 million, I would have thought, given his lack of production.
He’s very athletic, and has the length to be much better than he’s been. A silver lining is they didn’t sign him long term. In my overly idiosyncratic view, 28 isn’t such a good age to start one of those.
If his Wiki is correct, it looks like he came into the NFL with Fowler, but was two years older as a rookie. Exceptions galore, but I’d say he’s at his peak already. Not really an “upside” guy at this point, but who knows?
It’s a shame they’re in cap hell this season.
March 18, 2020 at 8:38 pm #112569znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
I’d give it a B+. $10M feels kinda expensive, but he’s a good run defender, familiar with Staley and has pass-rush upside with his length and athleticismAustin Wilson@AUS10SPORTS
He’s also oddly really good at coverage for a OLB.March 19, 2020 at 1:15 am #112586znModeratorA more detailed comparison between Fowler and Floyd, counting sacks, Tackles for Loss, & QB hits.
YEAR SACKS TFL QB HITS TTL
Floyd under Fangio/Staley
2016 7.0 … 6 … 9 = 22
2017 4.5 … 8 … 12 = 24.5
2018 4.0 … 9 … 11 = 24
ttl = 15.5 .. 23 … 32 = 70Floyd under Pagano
2018 3.0 … 3 … 12 = 18
Fowler in Jacksonville
2016 4.0 … 6 … 11 = 21
2017 8.0 … 7 … 10 = 25
2018 4.0 … 5 … 6 = 15
ttl 16 … 18 … 27 = 61Fowler in LA
2018 11.5 … 16 … 16 = 43.5
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