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August 5, 2017 at 4:30 pm #71916znModerator
Rams, Chargers meet for first neighborly practice Saturday
Joe Curley
http://www.vcstar.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2017/08/04/rams-head-coach-sean-mcvay/541559001/
The first on-field salvo in the so-called “Fight of Los Angeles” arrives Saturday, when the Los Angeles Rams travel to Stubhub Center for a joint practice with the Los Angeles Chargers.
While the Chargers have unveiled an aggressive marketing campaign since deciding to move north from San Diego — unfurling banners like “Fight for Costa Mesa” at its training camp — the Rams have been a bit more welcoming to their future stadium roommates.
“We’re not a division opponent,” Rams head coach Sean McVay said. “They’re playing in the AFC, so I wish nothing but the best for coach (Anthony) Lynn and those guys and a lot of respect for their players and I think it’s ultimately about us putting out a good product. I think this fan base, there’s plenty of fans that support both teams.”
The teams are holding training camp about five miles away from each other in Orange County, but the first of two joint practices between the team take place at the Chargers’ home stadium for the next three seasons in Carson.
“We want to get a bunch of good situational work,” McVay said.
The teams have communicated about their shared goals for the day. McVay has spoken to Lynn, his head-coaching counterpart. Offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur has spoken to Chargers defensive coordinator Gus Bradley. Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips has spoken to Chargers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt. Even the special teams coordinators, the Rams’ John Fassel and the Chargers’ George Stewart, have communicated.
“So they’ve all connected and we know what we’re trying to get out of it,” McVay said. “I think it’s going to be a great opportunity for us to get some good looks and go against a team that’s right down the road.”
The Rams will host the Chargers for a second practice Wednesday.
Asked about why the Rams would welcome the Chargers into the market earlier this year, Rams chief operating officer Kevin Demoff said, looking back, Los Angeles has a long history of being “a two-team market.”
“I really view the Chargers as a positive to the football environment in Southern California,” Demoff said. “It gives us two chances to bring a winner into this city.”
Considering the two teams combined to win just nine games a year ago, the question is, which of the two teams will be the first to bring a winner to Southern California?
Rams general manager Les Snead is more concerned with the team’s division opponents than the Chargers.
“The Chargers are in the AFC, we are in the NFC,” Snead said. “I like to say that basically we need to be better than three teams. And those three are the San Francisco 49ers, the Arizona Cardinals and the Seattle Seahawks, and the Chargers need to be better than their three teams.
“I don’t think we are competing against each other. … I think for us … let’s focus on the NFC West. All you have to do in this league to get into the tournament is to be better than three teams.”
At the moment, both teams are probably more concerned with injuries than any potential rivalry.
“Absolutely,” McVay said, “I think you want to be able to get that great work, but absolutely there is a premium on staying healthy and making sure that we get all of our guys through practice and really to that first game as healthy as we can.”
The Rams lost a potential starter this week when defensive tackle Dominique Easley suffered a torn ACL during the first padded practice of camp Tuesday.
One day later, the Chargers lost rookie offensive lineman Forrest Lamp, their second-round draft pick, also to a torn ACL. Receiver Mike Williams, the team’s first-round pick, has already been ruled out of training camp with a back injury.
Practice starts at 4:30 p.m. and is only open to Chargers’ season ticket holders and those on the wait list.
August 5, 2017 at 5:54 pm #71917wvParticipant“I don’t think we are competing against each other. … I think for us … let’s focus on the NFC West. All you have to do in this league to get into the tournament is to be better than three teams.”
=========Well how long has it been since the Rams have been better than one team? Two teams?
Demoff is a weasel, btw.
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vAugust 5, 2017 at 7:52 pm #71919znModeratorNice of Dean to keep Rams fans out. Screw the Chargers, can't wait to boo their asses at the pre-season game.
— Frank-O (@3_wide) August 5, 2017
August 5, 2017 at 8:17 pm #71922znModeratorHere comes @JaredGoff16. The #Rams QB was greeted by a "Goff" chant coming out of the tunnel 🐏 pic.twitter.com/jSXnhMc7Wy
— Kristen Lago (@kristennlago) August 5, 2017
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Rich Hammond @Rich_Hammond
Andrew Donnal, a key offensive line reserve for Rams, is on sidelines with his leg/knee in a soft support.Rams safety Lamarcus Joyner also not practicing today.
Rams and Chargers players trickling onto the field for practice. Sean McVay just greeted Philip Rivers.
Joe Curley @vcsjoecurley
Nelson Spruce and Rob Havenstein are two of the first Rams out on the field. Jared Goff trots out wearing his red 16.
Rams just concluded stretching. So we might see some (practice) football in a minute.
Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Half hour in, and it looks like the joint practicing will start. The Chargers have crossed midfield. #FightForCarsonChargers’ defense seems to be abiding by this “don’t go to the ground” rule. The Rams’ defense…less so.
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Rams’ first-team three-receiver set is Pharoh Cooper, Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods, which is what they ran on Friday with Tavon Austin out. No tackling, but Todd Gurley just broke a nice little run.
Alden Gonzalez, ESPN Staff Writer
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0685639229300022659-4
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Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
Two long runs for #Rams Todd Gurley against #Chargers No. 1 defense in 11 on 11 ref zone drillsAugust 5, 2017 at 8:32 pm #71924znModeratorGoal line series for Jared Goff and #Rams https://t.co/8FqDGeKei6
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) August 6, 2017
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Joe Curley @vcsjoecurley
On the first snap of the goal line drills, Goff hits Kupp for a 7-yard catch and run for a TD.Goff is strip sacked on next snap. Chargers player pulls his hand away like he wasn’t supposed to touch the ball, as well as Goff.
Goff hits Pharoh Cooper on a slant for a TD pass on next play.
Rich Hammond @Rich_Hammond
Goff threw a TD to Kupp in red-zone drill, then got the ball stripped by Joey Bosa on the next play. Then threw a TD to Pharoh Cooper.Rams’ defense getting a few tipped passes in 11-on-11 drills. EJ Gaines mentioned this the other day, as a Wade Phillips emphasis.
Chargers’ defense seems to be abiding by this “don’t go to the ground” rule. The Rams’ defense…less so.
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Joe Curley @vcsjoecurley
Goff hits Highbee for a short TD. Mannion hits Nelson Spruce for a 5-yard TD pass. Spruce also drew a holding flag on the Chargers DBOn the other side of the field, Chargers QB Mike Bercovici scrambled for a TD and was picked off by LB Kevin Davis.
Another nice run by Todd Gurley, who flies around left end untouched for a score
Rich Hammond @Rich_Hammond
Again, not going to be make a lot out of no-tackling drills, but Todd Gurley has made some real nice runs today.==
.@JaredGoff16 ➡️ @Ty_Higs19 🙌 pic.twitter.com/ub4gbF8BFC
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 6, 2017
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Joe Curley @vcsjoecurley
And now the best player in the stadium, Johnny Hekker, takes the field for punting drills. First one goes 46 yards for a fair catch.August 5, 2017 at 8:46 pm #71925znModeratorJoe Curley @vcsjoecurley
Nelson Spruce gets some punt coverage work in. Without Austin today, first Rams punt returner is Kupp, who catches first punt over shoulder.Brandon Shippen, Nelson Spruce and Shakeir Ryan also were back returning punts for the Rams. 7 on 7 drills next.
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Rams are down a lot of receivers — Tavon Austin, Mike Thomas, Bradley Marquez and Josh Reynolds. They were heavy on slot receivers before; even more so now. Lot of rollouts and short, high-leverage passes for Jared Goff today. Sean McVay has a knack for making life difficult for a defense and easy for his quarterback. He’ll do that here.
Alden Gonzalez, ESPN Staff Writer
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0685648175377161735-4
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Rich Hammond @Rich_Hammond
Rams/Chargers are doing some 1-on-1 battle drills among linemen, so if there’s going to be a fight..==
Chargers Melvin Ingram vs #Rams LT Andrew Whitworth. #RamsCamp pic.twitter.com/mXguzMIb5W
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) August 6, 2017
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August 5, 2017 at 9:19 pm #71926znModeratorVincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
Watching #Chargers Melvin Ingram & Joey Bosa work together on same side of line of scrimmage is impressive. Just blew up a #Rams run playJoe Curley @vcsjoecurley
Rams O struggling in the third-down 11 on 11 drills. I’ve counted eight straight incompletions.Was at nine straight when the period ended.
Paul McRoberts makes a really nice catch from Goff under heavy coverage to open the two-minute drill segment.
Dani Klupenger@daniklup
Two-minute drill happening now. Using the full field on this drill. Rams offense up first.Robey-Coleman (@slotgod23) with some good reps out there against Chargers third down plays.
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#Rams two minute continues https://t.co/2hjITJEwf8
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) August 6, 2017
#Rams two minute continues https://t.co/2hjITJEwf8
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) August 6, 2017
August 5, 2017 at 9:34 pm #71927InvaderRamModeratorsounds like gurley is doing good things. goff too but still lots to work on.
it’s only one clip, but whitworth looks like he’s in total command. i hope he’s got three years left in him.
August 5, 2017 at 9:44 pm #71929znModeratorDani Klupenger @daniklup
Two-minute drill happening now. Using the full field on this drill. Rams offense up first.Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
#Rams Jared Goff looked sharp in two-minute drill going 8 of 9 to drive #Rams into field goal range. Woods/Cooper/Higbee main targetsJoe Curley @vcsjoecurley
Matt LaFleur had the walkie talkie to call in plays for much of the day. But now that’s it’s 2-minute drill, I’m noticing McVay has it.Dani Klupenger @daniklup
Utilizing a lot of guys on this drive down the field. Woods, Cooper, Higbee & McRoberts all with catches on this march up the field.Joe Curley @vcsjoecurley
Best part of Goff’s day probably comes in two-minute drill. Hits 8 of first 9 throws (only miss was a Higbee drop) to drive Rams to C16.Third and 3 from the Rams 33, Goff finds Higbee for the first down. Did a good job of holding onto it. Contact looked early.
Goff throws ball away under pressure on third and 2 from the C8. Rams settle for imaginary FG attempt. Goff 8 of 10 for 75 yards on drive.
Actually it was 8 of 11. Paul McRoberts and Robert Woods caught three of those passes each.
Chargers settled for a FG attempt on their first-team two-minute drill. And they actually attempted the kick. Honestly I don’t know if good.
Alden Gonzalez @Alden_Gonzalez
Play action, roll out, dump it off. Seeing a lot of that from Jared Goff today.Rich Hammond @Rich_Hammond
Rams’ two-minute drill got them to a 4th and 2 at Chargers’ 8, with 6 seconds left, but then…they just stopped. So we’ll never know.Bit of a tough day for Rams corner Kayvon Webster. He’s been beat a couple times.
Chargers tried their FG after their two-minute drive stalled at Rams’ 26, and they made it
Melvin Ingram just “sacked” Goff. The Rams will be happy to get on the bus and not see him again for few days.
Dani Klupenger @daniklup
Ok- defenses turn to stop the Chargers two-minute drill. Rivers tried to attack @kayvonwebster with two deep balls. KWebb with good coverageRams defense holds Chargers to a field goal. Same result for both teams. Goff was 8-10 w/ 75 yards during 2-minute drill.
August 5, 2017 at 9:57 pm #71931AgamemnonParticipantAugust 5, 2017 at 10:06 pm #71932znModeratorGood job, collecting all the tweets, zn.
Thank you!
I made it easy by previously collecting all the twitter links (end of post here): http://theramshuddle.com/topic/some-dedicated-threads-on-individual-players/
August 5, 2017 at 10:07 pm #71933InvaderRamModeratorGood job, collecting all the tweets, zn.
yes. great job. nice reading the tweets and then seeing it happen on the videos. great stuff.
August 5, 2017 at 10:09 pm #71934znModeratoryes. great job. nice reading the tweets and then seeing it happen on the videos. great stuff.
And thank you too!
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J.B. Long@JB_Long
Joint practice over. #Rams win.August 5, 2017 at 10:13 pm #71935InvaderRamModeratorthis is going to be a long week. shoot. this is going to be a long 5 weeks!
August 5, 2017 at 10:49 pm #71938znModeratorMcVay on the practice: "There was some good, some bad, some things we need to clean up." @CVRamsClub pic.twitter.com/7VPCYFXJ1p
— Joe Curley (@vcsjoecurley) August 6, 2017
August 6, 2017 at 1:26 am #71952InvaderRamModeratori sometimes have visions that gurley goes back to being that running back we saw the first half of his rookie season. kupp wins offensive rookie of the year. woods finally gets to shine in a passing oriented offense. and higbee and everett provide goff with big targets downfield and in the red zone.
i can’t wait until next saturday. it’ll be one of the best saturdays i’ve had in months.
August 6, 2017 at 1:58 am #71955znModeratorTraining Camp Report: First Joint Practice with the Chargers
Kristen Lago
On the same day in which football legends LaDainian Tomlinson and Kurt Warner were enshrined into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, their former teams took the field at the StubHub Center for their first of two joint practices. In what proved to be a very big teaser to the start of NFL gamedays, the Rams kicked off Day 7 of Training Camp with a competitive and exciting afternoon on the field.
Today’s practice featured a variety of different drills ranging from full-team work to individual drills and just about everything in between. All 180 players from both sides were in high spirits, showcasing their athleticism and energy throughout the two-hour practice. Here’s what you missed from Rams Camp Day 7 – Joint Practice Edition:
TOP TAKEAWAYS
1. A friendly neighborhood matchup:
Even though the Rams and Chargers did not participate in live tackling, the intensity remained high throughout the entire afternoon. The practice began with a series of individual drills taking place at both end zones, with each team working on various positional warm-ups and stretches.
Then it was game-time… Sort of.
The field was split in half as each side got the chance to work on red zone drills and midfield work, switching off at each end. The Rams’ offense opened up their run-game routes, letting running back Todd Gurley loose on a selection of different plays. During one portion of the 11-on-11 drills Gurley managed to misdirect the Chargers’ defense running straight up the middle before cutting back to his left and taking it in to the endzone.
McVay was happy to let Gurley stretch his legs against another team’s defense, describing the back as a “violent runner,” impressed with his ability to power through the gaps and break would-be tackles.
“He did a great job getting it out into the open field and there was a couple where he’s reading it one gap at a time on some of the schemes we have and you can feel his speed once he gets to the corner,” McVay said of Gurley’s work during Day 7. “He’s a guy that has been motivated and has been a standout throughout the offseason program and it’s been the same throughout camp and we’re expecting big things from Todd.”
.@JaredGoff16 ➡️ @Ty_Higs19 🙌 pic.twitter.com/ub4gbF8BFC
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 6, 2017
Both teams finished off with an assortment of situational drills taking up the full length of the field. It was during this portion of practice that the sidelines really came alive, giving the stadium a true game-like feel, specifically during the two-minute drills. The Rams’ hard work on the field allowed the team some valuable experience going up against another system and will be very helpful in evaluating what the Rams will need to work on throughout the next phase of training camp.
“I think there was some good stuff that we saw and until you really get the chance to go back and look at the tape – especially because we were doing some two-spot stuff and I was a little bit more involved in the offense,” McVay said of the joint practice. “There was some good, some bad, some things we need to clean up, but I thought it was great work that we got today.”
“It will be a great opportunity for us to get back and look at the tape,” McVay reiterated. “The Chargers have some great players on the corner, so I thought it was great work where it’s a little bit of a different structure than what we’re typically accustomed to seeing from our defense every single day. This work is invaluable for us.”
2. Goff showing improvement in game-time situations:
Saturday’s practice also gave us an inside look at quarterback Jared Goff’s improvement from Year One to Year Two in a game environment. Though the Rams did emphasize the run game there was plenty of passing to be seen from the second-year quarterback.
During the 11-on-11 drills, Goff recorded a nice completion to tight end Gerald Everett, rolling out of the pocket to his left before drilling the ball up field for a would-be first down. In his first red zone drill of the day, the quarterback found wide receiver Cooper Kupp in the endzone. Although Chargers linebacker Joey Bosa shook up the quarterback on the next play stripping the ball from his hands after the blitz, Goff recovered well – throwing to wideout Pharoh Cooper in the endzone on the following play.
But Goff’s biggest bright spot of the day came in the tail end of practice during the team’s two-minute drill. Goff went 8/11 for about 75 yards, taking the Rams offense all the way to the three-yard line before being held to a field goal. After practice Goff said the joint practice proved very effective, allowing him to get some good looks at another team’s defense, especially with preseason just a week away.
“I felt good. [There were] a lot of things I thought we did good and a lot of things that I thought we can work on,” Goff said. “Off the top of my head, I can point to a couple. But I thought for the most part, we moved the ball pretty well, especially in that two-minute drill there. I was really happy with what we were doing up front. Seeing something different today was good. It was refreshing.”
McVay was also pleased with his quarterback noting Goff’s football savvy during today’s scrimmage along with his confidence throughout the situational drills.
“I thought he settled in, I thought he did a nice job in the two-minute drill taking completions, being smart with the football and then at the end where we did a little bit of move the ball, he made some good third down throws,” McVay said of Goff. “I think he’s doing a nice job finding his rhythm, getting more comfortable every single day.”
3. Secondary proves its worth:
After yesterday’s practice Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips mentioned that the secondary would be the most surprising part of the Rams defense. And so far throughout the last seven days of training camp, the defensive back group alongside the linebackers have truly proved their worth.
Robey-Coleman (@slotgod23) with some good reps out there against Chargers third down plays.
— Dani Klupenger (@daniklup) August 6, 2017
In the joint practice today, the secondary, led by cornerbacks coach Aubrey Pleasant and and safeties coach Ejiro Evero, played well, getting the chance to go up against the deep threat of a veteran quarterback in Philip Rivers. In training camp, Phillips’ emphasis thus far has been on pass deflection and cutting down the vertical threat and today that was put on display.
Cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman continues to impress during camp. Today, Robey-Coleman had a great pass deflection stopping a long ball to the ten yard line. Linebacker Kevin Davis had the Rams’ first interception of the day, placing his toes carefully in bounds for the pick. Overall, the secondary continues to be a bright spot of improvement for the Rams. Though McVay focused mainly on the offense in today’s scrimmage, he made sure to give high praise to the intensity of the secondary as a whole.
“I can’t wait to go back and see how the defense did,” McVay said. “Because we did so many two-spot drills, I was a little bit more involved in the offense, so I can’t wait to go back and look at the tape. But anytime I’m kind of peeking over my shoulder just from what we’ve seen throughout the offseason program – it kind of carried on today where guys were flying around, doing a good job of playing smart. I thought they did a nice job from what I saw just kind of on the brink.”
FIELD-LEVEL OBSERVATIONS
– Wide receivers Tavon Austin and Josh Reynolds along with linebacker Samson Ebukam missed today’s practice, out with minor issues. They all remain day-to-day.
– Defensive tackle Michael Brockers and outside linebacker Robert Quinn were limited in today’s practice while safety Lamarcus Joyner did not participate at all. McVay said they were held out as part of the team’s management program, meant to keep all of their athletes healthy and performing at their best.
– Cornerback E.J. Gaines had a nice one-handed grab during the warm up portion displaying solid hands even on the sidelines.
– The defense struggled a bit with the mobility of Rivers who was able to cut up the middle on a few early routes. Later in practice the D-Line was able to hold down the run a bit more, adjusting well to the Chargers’ offense.
Chargers Melvin Ingram vs #Rams LT Andrew Whitworth. #RamsCamp pic.twitter.com/mXguzMIb5W
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) August 6, 2017
– Left tackle Andrew Whitworth held his own on the line, blocking well for the majority of the day against the Chargers’ Melvin Ingram.
– Linebacker Mark Barron had a nice play during the midfield drills forcing the incomplete pass from Rivers in man coverage.
– Tight end Tyler Higbee had a nice grab in the endzone for the touchdown during red zone drills. Has connected well with Goff for the last few days.
– Wideouts Robert Woods, Paul McRoberts, Cooper and Kupp saw a lot of action today taking the majority of the first-team reps at the receiver position.
PLAY OF THE DAY
Today’s play of the day was brought to you by veteran inside linebacker Alec Ogletree. During the last portion of this afternoon’s practice Ogletree showcased his quick speed on display, blitzing Rivers for the sack.
Rivers did not even have the chance to step back and settle into the pocket before Ogletree was all over him. The defensive play was a great example of the added mobility and aggressiveness in Phillips’ new hybrid 3-4 scheme.
PRESS POINTS
After practice McVay spoke to the media about how he felt Day 7 went for the Rams, but also took the time to honor new Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. Catch up on his best point from Day 7:
SEAN McVAY:
On if the practice went like he expected it would: “I also wanted to just congratulate former Rams quarterback Kurt Warner on his Hall of Fame induction last night. What an important part of this organization he’s been. I reached out and connected with him a little bit, but what a great player, what a great person and a great representation of this organization.”
August 6, 2017 at 2:19 am #71957znModeratorTodd Gurley Touchdown Run
Check out this touchdown run by Todd Gurley during the Rams’ joint practice with the Chargers at StubHub Center.
http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Todd_Gurley_Touchdown_Run/838d2bda-ea0f-435c-95b8-6b10ec0e4e04
August 6, 2017 at 4:17 am #71960znModeratorThere’s a camp report from that practice at the end (or the end as of this moment) of the camp report thread: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/camp-reports-728-1-so-far/#post-71959
August 6, 2017 at 10:53 am #71968InvaderRamModeratorTodd Gurley Touchdown Run
Check out this touchdown run by Todd Gurley during the Rams’ joint practice with the Chargers at StubHub Center.
http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Todd_Gurley_Touchdown_Run/838d2bda-ea0f-435c-95b8-6b10ec0e4e04
reports on gurley seem to be unanimously positive including those from mcvay himself.
goff still seems to be a work in progress although that isn’t particularly surprising.
excited about gurley though.
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