Patriots best drafting team ?

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May 5, 2016 at 3:25 pm #43465

wv
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Which NFL teams have drafted best over the last 5 years?

May 5, 2016 at 3:46 pm #43466

zn
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wv wrote:

Which NFL teams have drafted best over the last 5 years?

They just cut one first round pick and traded away another.

May 19, 2016 at 9:35 am #44309

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zn wrote:

They just cut one first round pick and traded away another.

And both ended up in the NFC West (Chandler and Easley).

May 19, 2016 at 10:07 am #44319
wv
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zn wrote:

zn wrote:

They just cut one first round pick and traded away another.

And both ended up in the NFC West (Chandler and Easley).

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Well, they keep winning and winning and winning, so
I am gonna assume they are putting good players on the field
year after year after year. So then, that would mean
they are Personnel Wizards. Somehow, someway they are
evaluating, finding, signing bunches of good players.
Maybe they are good in the lower rounds? Maybe they find
a way to have more draft picks? Maybe they do a great job
in free agency? I dunno. But i doubt they just have
such a great scheme and such a great coach that they make
bad players look good.

PS, i do not believe its just ‘Brady’. So dont go there.
Dont say the B word. I wont have it.

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May 19, 2016 at 10:46 am #44322

zn
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wv wrote:

Well, they keep winning and winning and winning, so
I am gonna assume they are putting good players on the field
year after year after year

Arguably…I don’t think that’s an accurate assessment. They do have a pretty decent drafting track record (but then when was the last time the Rams dumped 2 first-round picks?) So they are okay. Pretty good. But….IMO they win year after year because they have a seasoned Brady in a system he has played in his whole career. Plus they have a couple of key players. There is coaching too but then…that still depends on Brady.

But when the Denver got to Brady last year, or when the Giants got to him in that first superbowl, New England was not as gifted and dominant, suddenly.

That leads me to a hypothetical. Put Brady on last year’s Rams and they are certainly better than 7-9. Put the 2015 Foles and the 2015 Keenum on last year’s Patz and they might be better than 7-9 but not by much.

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May 19, 2016 at 11:30 am #44328

bnw
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Cheatriots also draft late in the first round.

The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

Sprinkles are for winners.

May 19, 2016 at 12:19 pm #44332

wv
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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Well, they keep winning and winning and winning, so
I am gonna assume they are putting good players on the field
year after year after year

Arguably…I don’t think that’s an accurate assessment. They do have a pretty decent drafting track record (but then when was the last time the Rams dumped 2 first-round picks?) So they are okay. Pretty good. But….IMO they win year after year because they have a seasoned Brady in a system he has played in his whole career. Plus they have a couple of key players. There is coaching too but then…that still depends on Brady.

But when the Denver got to Brady last year, or when the Giants got to him in that first superbowl, New England was not as gifted and dominant, suddenly.

That leads me to a hypothetical. Put Brady on last year’s Rams and they are certainly better than 7-9. Put the 2015 Foles and the 2015 Keenum on last year’s Patz and they might be better than 7-9 but not by much.

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Well i know you know more about the Pats than i do. I never watchem and I dont really know a damn thing about any team other than the rams.

So i admit i’m totally ignorant.

But i just dont buy your notion that its mainly Brady and a few other key players.

I’ve watched Belichick do wonders with that Patriot Defense even when he was starting WRs at DB. I’ve seen’em plug-and-play too many ‘depth players’ over the years. And there was the year Cassell won eleven games or so.

I think you are minimizing the Organization and the Personnel Evaluators, coupled with the mastermind Belichex. The fact that they jettison first rounders and still win, just tells me they do well with 2nd rounders or 3rd rounders, etc.

But again, what do i know.

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May 19, 2016 at 12:48 pm #44336

zn
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wv wrote:

I’ve watched Belichick do wonders with that Patriot Defense even when he was starting WRs at DB.

They could do that because they had a solid defense around that. And that was only one guy, Troy Brown.

They are pretty consistently solid on defense, and that’s because they do have a lot of good (not great) draft picks and key FA pick-ups.

On offense, really, as I see it, it’s Brady and Gronkowsi. The rest are interchangeable parts.

They’re just not The Best drafting team. They’re fine. They do well. But The Best? Not really. Not from what I see.

May 19, 2016 at 1:24 pm #44338

Agamemnon
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It seems to me, just my general feeling, that NE isn’t that great on hitting on the players they pick. But, they use the idea of comp picks well, they trade down well, they use the idea of trading for future picks well, and they draft for fit sometimes as the main factor. Sometimes they draft for the future more than immediate needs. So, overall, they come out well in being productive in the draft. imo

Their hits and misses aren’t that great, but they do everything else to help their draft.

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