OL gold standard–avg. starts and avg. years of experience

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  • #45616
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    This got buried in a different thread but I think it can hold up in its own thread.

    According to an article (next post):

    Th[e]30 [best NFL] lines started the season in question with an average of 4.1 years of NFL experience, an average of 53.4 games played, an average of 44.8 games started and an average of 0.6 Pro Bowl appearances.

    For the Rams, I can’t do games played, but I can do avg. years of NFL experience to start the season and I can do starts.

    This year, assuming the line I list here will start the season, the Rams OL will be:

    GR 2 years, 28 starts (not all at LOT)
    Saffold, 6 years, 65 starts
    Barnes, 5 years, 20 starts
    Brown, 1 year, 9 starts
    Hav, 1 year, 13 starts

    avg, 3.2 years, 27 starts

    short of the gold standard: 4.1 years, 44.8 starts

    And…I don’t know what it means if anything. Just got interested in the topic.

    Either way, it’s better than this time last year:

    GR 1 years, 12 starts (not all at LOT)
    Brown, 0 years, 0 starts
    Barnes, 4 years, 4 starts
    Saffold, 5 years, 60 starts
    Hav, 0 years, 0 starts

    avg, 2 years, 15.2 starts

    Well I DO know what THAT means. I mean…jeesh.

    #45577
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    Titans’ youth on offensive line could hold them back

    Paul Kuharsky

    http://espn.go.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/19258/titans-youth-on-offensive-line-could-hold-them-back

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Could the Titans’ offensive line be too young and inexperienced to have big-time success?

    Anything can happen, of course.

    In the system put together by coach Mike Mularkey, coordinator Terry Robiskie and offensive line coach Russ Grimm, maybe the group fares far better protecting Marcus Mariota and making room for the running backs, now headlined by DeMarco Murray and Derrick Henry.

    But it’s going to be a young group without much experience. Vincent Masi of ESPN Stats and Info broke down the 30 most productive offensive lines of the last three seasons.

    For 2013, 2014 and 2015, he pulled the five best run-blocking units and the five best pass-protecting units.

    He measured the run blocking based on rushing efficiency: the rushing offense’s contribution to scoring margin on per-play basis, adjusted for strength of opposing defenses faced.

    He measured the pass protection based on ESPN’s metric outlined here. http://theramshuddle.com/topic/measuring-pass-rush-protection/

    Those 30 lines started the season in question with an average of 4.1 years of NFL experience, an average of 53.4 games played, an average of 44.8 games started and an average of 0.6 Pro Bowl appearances.

    Let’s presume the Titans start left tackle Taylor Lewan, center Ben Jones, right guard Chance Warmack and right tackle Jack Conklin. The left guard will be second-year man Quinton Spain, second-year man Jeremiah Poutasi or rookie Sebastian Tretola.

    The most experience the Titans could have with that unit would be an average of two years experience on opening day, 29.4 games, 20.4 starts and zero Pro Bowls.

    With those numbers, the Titans would have lower averages in years, starts and games than any of the top 30 lines of the last three seasons.

    “We’ve got a lot of talent here, we’ve got a lot of first-round picks,” said Jones, who’s the old man of the group with four years of experience. “It’s great to have that opportunity with these guys that we can build on. To have such a young group who is willing to work and to grind every day, I think it’s a blessing to have that.”

    Mularkey said the Titans can’t worry about the composition of the line.

    “It is what it is, we’re in that position right now,” he said. “We’ve got a number of high picks up there working, competing for jobs. I don’t know if it’s a negative. I think the negative is if you don’t have the same five over time.

    “I see that as more of a negative than the five that are up there. If it’s five young guys and they are there all the time and they’re getting to work together and communicate together, then I think they should be all right.”

    #45581
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    i keep thinking. everything is being set up for 2017. offensive line a little short on experience this year. but by next year, they should have even more cohesion there.

    drafted a bunch of receivers this year. probably won’t make an immediate impact but could breakout in the second year by which time hopefully goff has his bearings right and is a solid to very good qb.

    so i just need to see some encouraging signs this year at least.

    how long have ram fans heard that?

    #45622
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    avg, 2 years, 15.2 starts

    That was the Rams OL last year…and the standard for good lines is 4.1 years and 44.8 games started.

    And then it had 5 injuries: Saffold, Hav, Brown, Donnal, and Williams. Those 5 injuries meant 3 spots were shuffled: Reynolds had to play ROT instead of guard, and then they needed 2 guards. It settled down when Hav came back and Reynolds shifted to LOG, where he was better than he was at OT.

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