NFL season w/ pandemic, thread 2: 7/18 to ?

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NFL clubs just received this email with reporting dates.

Training camp is on. pic.twitter.com/lya1JtxW4o

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) July 18, 2020

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NFL confirms training camp schedule, with all camps open July 28 https://t.co/Nho6lqIior

— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) July 18, 2020

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This is not accurate. 2,800 NFL players have not been tested yet. There are 72 players who are known to test positive, but they were tested independently from the NFL https://t.co/n4P6ncmQCD

— Ben Volin (@BenVolin) July 18, 2020

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The NFL and NFLPA would like to have the all-important economics figured out before camp. But it’s not a necessity, so they can keep talking about the revenue shortfall while camp goes. They’ll resolve other money issues (risk stipends etc) sooner. https://t.co/yojAaf7JC8

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) July 18, 2020

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After today’s memo, multiple NFL teams already have sent notice to rookies and begun booking flights for them to report to camp Tuesday, per sources. Still a lot unknown, including structure of camp, but teams proceeding as if players will begin returning to facilities this week.

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) July 18, 2020

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Translating the #WeWantToPlay posts you're seeing now: Joint medical committee recommended a 21-day acclimation period. NFL asked players to show up 2 weeks early to accomodate it; NFLPA said no. NFL shortened acclimation period to accommodate 2 preseason games. Union wants 0.

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) July 19, 2020

Sense a trend…. pic.twitter.com/KJQqo7nKSI

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) July 19, 2020

A coordinated posting blitz from some of the NFL’s top players calls on the NFL to provide answers and address health concerns. All have the hashtag #WeWantToPlay pic.twitter.com/BwQtxcnLOq

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) July 19, 2020

Same here, my family deserves to know that the @NFL is doing everything in their power to keep us safe. #WeWantToPlay but we need the league to follow recommendations from their own experts. https://t.co/ajEwi12lYh

— Johnny Hekker (@JHekker) July 19, 2020

It’s a shame that the @nfl doesn’t care about doing their part to keep players healthy and safe. They need to make sure football can come back the right way. We have to look out for ourselves as well as our families. #WeWantToPlay

— AD_99 (@AaronDonald97) July 19, 2020

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Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
NFL and owners now will be conducting a league meeting at noon ET today as they try to finalize health and safety measures, financial arrangements, and reducing or eliminating preseason games, per league sources.

Judy Battista@judybattista
There are still a lot of outstanding issues — including preseason, testing frequency, structure of camp — but a person involved in the talks told me Friday things were moving in right direction. We’ll see what emerges today

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A fall without football a real possibility because of COVID-19 as NFL players, others raise questions https://t.co/myRERRO2X6

— Joe Curley (@vcsjoecurley) July 20, 2020

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Dan Graziano@DanGrazianoESPN
NFL/NFLPA negotiations continue this afternoon and likely this evening. Reality is, something has to get done tonite. If HOU/KC rookies show up Monday and NFLPA hasn’t signed off on protocols, union could file a grievance claiming unsafe work environment. Neither side wants that.

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ProFootballTalk@ProFootballTalk
There’s an agreement between the NFL and NFLPA to conduct daily COVID-19 testing, per source with knowledge of situation. The players had pushed very hard for it.

Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
The final testing protocol agreed to by the NFL and NFLPA extends the initial screening timeline, I’m told:

Players will be tested on Days 1 and 4 of camp, with two days of remote education in between. Waiting another day helps make sure to capture the virus as it incubates.

The NFL and NFLPA agreed to daily COVID-19 testing for the first 2 weeks of camp, after which they’ll look at positivity rates. If the rate drops below 5% for players and Tier 1/Tier 2 individuals, they’ll move to every other day. Important deal as talks continue on other issues.

Players will need multiple negative tests before they’re allowed to be in the building for physicals or team activities. That’s a lesson the NFL has taken from other pro leagues: Take it slow. NFL Chief Medical Officer Dr. Allen Sills says test results expected within 24 hours.

One other point worth noting on daily testing: The NFL contracted with a national lab to make sure their testing needs didn’t take resources away from local markets, which Dr. Sills said was “a driving force for us.” No negative impact on local supply for hospitals, etc.

Judy Battista@judybattista
Another note on NFL testing: was told by one owner that they have been told to expect the positive tests to possibly be high early on as players arrive from home, before everybody gets into the protocol of regular testing. Then expected to level off.

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Sam Farmer@LATimesfarmer
Hearing the NFL has budged on a lot more than daily testing. League is offering 0 preseason games, and expanding the acclimation period (no hitting) from seven to 18 days. NFLPA has yet to agree. Seems this is all coming down to financials.

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In their two-part negotiation it appears the NFL and NFLPA got the ‘easy part’ done, the health and safety protocols. Now comes the hard part, the economics. Translation: the owners will try to make the players feel their pain.

— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) July 21, 2020

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Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
What would training camp be like under the NFL’s latest ramp-up proposal?
— Testing & physicals for 5-6 days
— Strength & conditioning plus walk-throughs thru Day 12.
— Off Day 13
— Ramp up with helmets through Day 18
— Off Day 19
— On the 20th day, the pads go on.
So, different.

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NFL agrees to eliminate preseason, reaches deal with union on coronavirus testing
The NFL’s offer Monday of zero preseason games was accompanied by other player-friendly provisions.

https://www.boston.com/sports/nfl/2020/07/20/nfl-agrees-to-eliminate-preseason-reaches-deal-with-union-on-coronavirus-testing

The NFL on Monday agreed with its players’ union on a novel-coronavirus-testing program for players while offering to eliminate the preseason as the union has sought. The moves to resolve the key remaining issues between the two sides came as rookies for the Kansas City Chiefs and Houston Texans reported to their training camps.

The league’s concessions on the preseason and daily testing of players, at least at the outset of training camps, increased the likelihood that all teams’ camps will open fully by July 28 as scheduled. The NFL previously had cut the preseason from four games per team to two games per team and was planning for testing every other day. But the NFL Players Association had been adamant about daily testing for players and no preseason at all.

The NFL’s offer Monday of zero preseason games was accompanied by other player-friendly provisions. The acclimation period for veteran players arriving at training camps was increased from seven days to 18 days before they must start practicing, and any player is allowed to opt out of playing this season, according to a person familiar with the deliberations.

Under the testing agreement, players will be tested daily for the first two weeks of training camp. Daily testing will continue as long as the rate of positive tests of players, coaches and other team staffers is above 5%. If the rate falls below 5%, players will be tested every other day. The league expects to receive test results within 24 hours.

“I think that this latest agreement with testing protocols between the league and the Players Association reflects a continuation of the collaborative work that we’ve been doing,” said Allen Sills, the NFL’s chief medical officer. “We’ve had other protocols around treatment for new positive cases, around facilities, around travel, around education, around screening. So we’ve continued this work and it’s, again, reflecting a number of months of work that really began back in March.”

The NFLPA said in a written statement: “Our union has been pushing for the strongest testing, tracing and treatment protocols to keep our players safe. The testing protocols we agreed to are one critical factor that will help us return to work safely and gives us the best chance to play and finish the season.”

Sills also said the league plans to use tracking devices to trace people’s contact as part of its measures to attempt to limit spread of the virus within team facilities.

The arrivals Monday of the rookies for the Chiefs and the Texans, the two teams scheduled to meet in the NFL’s season-opening game Sept. 10 in Kansas City, Mo., amounted to a first step by the league toward opening teams’ training camps on time. Rookies for other teams are scheduled to report to their camps Tuesday, though some teams were postponing those arrivals.

The Texans said through a spokesperson that their rookies were undergoing coronavirus testing Monday by the firm BioReference Laboratories at an on-site testing facility outside the team’s stadium in Houston. The rookies had no other team-related activities planned for Monday, according to the spokesperson.

Many players, including star quarterbacks Patrick Mahomes of the Chiefs and Russell Wilson of the Seattle Seahawks, had taken to social media Sunday to question the league’s approach to opening training camps amid the pandemic.

The league and the union have agreed to all the necessary health protocols and, with the league’s latest offer Monday, appear close to resolving all the remaining noneconomic issues such as the structure of teams’ training camps and the opt-out rules. The major issue left for the two sides to resolve is economic: how to deal with a potential drop in revenue this season and what such a decrease would mean to the 2021 salary cap.

It was not immediately clear whether the league’s new offer for no preseason games and a longer acclimation period for veteran players was tied to specific economic provisions. The two sides have differed sharply to this point on how to keep a significant decrease in revenue this year from causing next year’s cap to plummet.

Sills confirmed that he had approved all 32 teams’ Infectious Disease Emergency Response (IDER) plans. The NFLPA’s ratification is pending for many teams’ plans.

“Everything that we’re doing is centered around the concept of risk mitigation,” Sills said in a conference call with reporters. “We know that we can’t eliminate risk. But we’re trying to mitigate it as much as possible for everyone. . . . I think that these protocols are very much living and breathing documents, which means that they will change.”

The NFL previously sent treatment protocols to teams for dealing with positive coronavirus tests. Sills declined to specify how many positive tests would dictate shutting down a team or the league, saying those issues must be discussed with the union and public health authorities. A player will be required to have two negative tests 72 hours apart after reporting to training camp before being permitted to enter a team’s facility.

Team owners spoke by video conference Monday afternoon. It was their second remote meeting since Friday as the league tries to keep training camps and the season on schedule. For most teams, that means rookies reporting Tuesday, quarterbacks and injured players reporting Thursday, and all other players reporting July 28. Individual teams can adjust reporting dates later but not earlier. Team doctors told NFLPA representatives Thursday they believe camps can be opened safely even in coronavirus “hot spot” cities.

Los Angeles Rams Coach Sean McVay told the “Helliepod” podcast before the deal on testing was announced that he suspected a delay remained possible.

“Usually when you get about a week out – and right now that’s exactly where we’re at – you start to get revved up, get excited . . . when you’re getting ready to kick off training camp and the preseason,” McVay said. “And there’s something about this time that you know the amount of things that have to take place for that to logistically get off and get going – something about it tells me maybe there’s a chance that things get moved back.”

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“…The NFL previously had cut the preseason from four games per team to two games per team and was planning for testing every other day.
But the NFL Players Association had been adamant about daily testing for players and no preseason at all.

The NFL’s offer Monday of zero preseason games was accompanied by other player-friendly provisions. The acclimation period for veteran players arriving at training camps was increased from seven days to 18 days before they must start practicing, and any player is allowed to opt out of playing this season, according to a person familiar with the deliberations.

Under the testing agreement, players will be tested daily for the first two weeks of training camp. Daily testing will continue as long as the rate of positive tests of players, coaches and other team staffers is above 5%. If the rate falls below 5%, players will be tested every other day. The league expects to receive test results within 24 hours…”
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First off — what the hell is wrong with those NFLlowlife-corporate-Weasel-Owners, who wanted every other day testing. What kind of lowlife Billionaire argues against everyday testing for the players? What pieces of shit.

2nd — this ‘opting out’ thing is important and interesting i think. But what does it mean that a player can ‘opt out’ ? What does it do to their years accrued and all the details of their contracts? At any rate, I’m glad the Union got them an “opt out” rule. It will be interesting to see if any players opt out this year.

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CBS Sports HQ@CBSSportsHQ
NFL implications from zero preseason games:
• Major cap implications in future years
• Rosters have to be cut to 80
• No games to showcase skills for guys on the roster bubble

Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
What does “general agreement” mean on opt-out and stipend? Details are still being finalized (i.e. who qualifies as high risk, how much they’re paid, etc.), but the NFL and NFLPA have agreed on the concept. Those will exist.

Jim Trotter@JimTrotter_NFL
One thing being negotiated under high-risk opt-out is # of categories a player would have to meet under CDC guidelines to be eligible for stipend. NFLPA is arguing for one (including cancer, obesity, diabetes, chronic kidney disease, sickle cell), but no agreement, I’m told.

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Roster size probably goes from 90 to 80.

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From NFL Now: What's left for the NFL and the NFLPA to work out? All the $$$ things… pic.twitter.com/PgKkYSahU0

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) July 21, 2020

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Derek Carr@derekcarrqb
So fans can go!?!?

Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
It’s up to each state.

I think there should be a league-wide mandate/consensus on fan participation so all 32 teams are on equal footing. But what the heck do I know??

Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Tend to agree. There shouldn’t be an a preset advantage for some teams, even if it’s just a minimal one.

Jason Cole@JasonCole62
I’d allow fans whenever possible. Yes, there’s a competitive advantage issue. I think there’s also the issue of trying to do the best you can for fans whenever possible. Kind of a customer service issue. I’d sacrifice the competitive advantage for fan happiness.

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