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June 29, 2016 at 4:02 pm #47452
AgamemnonParticipantDetails on Andrew Luck deal:
5-year extension (6-year deal).
Just north of $139 million (a record).
$87 million in guarantees (a record).
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) June 29, 2016
June 29, 2016 at 4:16 pm #47454
znModerator6-year deal $139 million
I assume that includes 2016, both in the money reported and the years.
If so that makes it an on-avg. 23.3 M dollar deal.
Comparing him to others in his contract class (young starting qbs and their 2nd contracts), that’s just a bit above Wilson’s 21.9 a year.
This suggests that by the time Goff comes up, the top avg. annual amount for deals like that will be in the 24-25 M range.
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June 29, 2016 at 4:31 pm #47458
AgamemnonParticipantAndrew Luck signs six-year, $140 million Colts contract
By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The NFL Editor
Published: June 29, 2016 at 04:26 p.m.Colts owner Jim Irsay promised a “shocking” contract for his franchise quarterback Andrew Luck way back in February. That’s why it wasn’t shocking when the Colts announced Wednesday that Luck signed a new contract that makes him the highest-paid player in the NFL.
Luck signed a six-year, $140 million deal Wednesday with the Colts, Irsay announced. A source informed of the deal told Rapoport that the new contract includes $60 million fully guaranteed and will average $24.6 million per season. The contract will pay him $75 million over the first three years of the deal and slightly less over the final two years. In addition, he’ll earn $87 million in guarantees.
Luck’s mammoth contract surpasses the $22.1 million per-season average of Joe Flacco’s contract — now the league’s second-richest deal.
The Amazon Original Series “All or Nothing: A Season with the Arizona Cardinals” Premieres on Prime video July 1.The news is not a surprise, but the timing of it shows the extreme faith the Colts have in Luck. He’s coming off a down 2015 season plagued by injuries. Luck admitted he was playing poorly even before a shoulder injury forced him to miss two early starts. A lacerated kidney ended his season after Week 9.
The Colts smartly took the long view. Franchise quarterbacks are the most valuable commodity in sports and we’d argue they are all undervalued because of the salary cap. To put it another way: would you rather have one Andrew Luck or two Ryan Kerrigans? The Colts placed more importance the first three extraordinary seasons of Luck’s career far more than last season, as they should. Luck was sixth in the NFL in passing yards from 2012-2014. Irsay knows how incredibly fortunate the Colts were to replace Peyton Manning with another potential top-shelf quarterback.
“This is an exciting day for the organization and Colts fans around the globe,” Irsay said in a statement. “Andrew is the consummate professional, possesses extraordinary talent and is our leader on and off the field. When you consider what this team has accomplished in four seasons with Andrew under center, you cannot help but be thrilled about the future.”
The Colts made the playoffs in Luck’s first three seasons with 11-5 records, advancing further in the postseason each year. Luck’s postseason efforts encapsulated his career in many ways. He combined a lot of jaw-dropping big plays with occasional recklessness. The Colts’ defense ultimately let him down, giving up more than 40 points in three of the games.
Luck has promised to be more careful with his body in 2016, with a plan to slide more often when he runs out of the pocket. In so many ways, Luck’s early career is reminiscent of Cam Newton, the man taken No. 1 overall the year before him. The two players both have incredible (and similar) physical traits. They add a ton of value as runners and create “wow” plays throwing the ball that didn’t exist a generation ago. Both players can be streaky with accuracy and can occasionally trust their brilliant ability to escape pressure too much.
The difference is that Luck piled up big passing numbers faster and Newton has been more durable. Luck led the league in touchdown throws in 2014 and was third in passing yards, in part because he was trying to keep up with the Colts’ lackluster defense.
The Colts have struggled to protect Luck, and invested multiple picks on the offensive line heading into this season. The team has a terrific young core around Luck like it once did with Manning: receiver T.Y. Hilton and tight end Dwayne Allen are signed long term and buttressed by promising youngsters Donte Moncrief and Phillip Dorsett. Luck has proven he has broad enough shoulders to carry an organization, and we’d expect him to return near the top of the passing yards charts this year. Even if he ranks low in quotability with the media.
“I am thrilled and excited to continue with this great organization,” Luck said Wednesday in a statement. “I am thankful to the Irsay family and Mr. Irsay for providing me with this great opportunity and the trust that they’ve shown in me. I can’t wait for this season to start.”
Luck wants to prove to his teammates and himself that last year was an aberration. Irsay and company certainly believe that is true. In the meantime, Luck has a few extra bucks to fund his book club.
June 29, 2016 at 4:45 pm #47459
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Luck signed a six-year, $140 million deal Wednesday with the Colts, Irsay announced. A source informed of the deal told Rapoport that the new contract includes $60 million fully guaranteed and will average $24.6 million per season.
That doesn’t add up. 6 x 24.6 = 147.6
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What it does add up to is 16M for 2016 and 24.6 for the next 5. $139M
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139 / 6 = 23.17
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6yrs for $139M.
Average salary = $23.17.
Average cap = the cap for 2016-2021. = 1089 / 6 = 181.5M
23.17 / 181.5 = 12.77% [salary cap percent]
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Preliminary calculations indicate that this is very close to the expected rate for a franchise QB(12.84%) when you factor in the expected increases in the salary cap over the next 5 years.
What makes this contract sweet is the massive guaranteed money. Of course, not all guaranteed money is equal. Try to get $87M, using the contract information below. š
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June 29, 2016 at 4:48 pm #47460
wvParticipantIs he worth it?
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vJune 29, 2016 at 4:54 pm #47463
AgamemnonParticipantIs he worth it?
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vIt is exactly what you expect a franchise QB to get. Is he a franchise, QB is the question.
June 29, 2016 at 5:05 pm #47466
AgamemnonParticipant6-year deal $139 million
I assume that includes 2016, both in the money reported and the years.
If so that makes it an on-avg. 23.3 M dollar deal.
Comparing him to others in his contract class (young starting qbs and their 2nd contracts), thatās just a bit above Wilsonās 21.9 a year.
This suggests that by the time Goff comes up, the top avg. annual amount for deals like that will be in the 24-25 M range.
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Right, zn.
June 29, 2016 at 5:21 pm #47468
AgamemnonParticipantAndrew Luck's base salaries during each year of his contract: pic.twitter.com/IJPEdS1I5N
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) June 29, 2016
More details. The deals includes some bonus money, some salary guarantees, and it must have some roster bonuses. Probably, in the end, they can cut him after 4 years. Still, a lot of guaranteed money.
June 29, 2016 at 6:06 pm #47473
znModeratorCAN ANDREW LUCK BECOME A TOP-5 QUARTERBACK NEXT SEASON?
The Colts are now set to pay QB Andrew Luck for what he could beānot what’s he’s shown thus far. Mike Renner explains.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-can-andrew-luck-be-a-top-5-quarterback-next-season/
It was inevitable. Andrew Luck has re-signed with the Colts through the 2021 season. The only thing up for debate was whether or not Luck was going to get paid like the top quarterback in the NFL, even if he realistically hasnāt even been a top-five QB in any single season up to this point in his career. The answer was a resounding āYes,ā with Luck eclipsing the Aaron Rodgersā cap ($22 million per year) that no one has yet to lay legitimate claim in surpassing.
With the deal done, the new debate is whether or not Luck will ever live up to those lofty expectations. As a rookie out of Stanford in 2012, Luck had more hype following him around than any quarterback this millennium. That season, he had a modicum of early success, but as the Colts had a worst-to-first turnaround, people were quick to crown him. Issues with inaccuracy, holding onto the ball, and decision-making were conveniently glossed over because Indianapolis was winning games. Those problems came to a head in 2015 in what can only be described as a disaster of a season for Indy. Luck managed only two positively-graded games in seven starts, earning below-average passing grades in the five other games. To make matters even worse, it was reported after the season that he may have come back too soon from his shoulder injury, and that the damage was worse than originally believed.

In the NFL, though, itās important to remember that you donāt pay for past performanceāonly what you expect in the future. Luckās sky-high potential hasnāt changed, and at 26 years old, heās still mastering the nuances of the professional quarterback position. Tom Brady was 30 when he made his first All-Pro team. Rich Gannon made his first Pro Bowl at age 34, and then went to four straight, culminating in an MVP award. The same things Luck has struggled withāgetting the ball out quickly and turnover-worthy throwsāare two areas in which weāve seen QBs consistently improve as they age. In Luckās last full healthy season of 2014, he made turnover-worthy throws at the seventh-highest rate in the league; however, he made up for it by making big-time throws at the fourth-highest rate in the league. You canāt teach someone to throw as well downfield as he can (he was top-10 in deep-accuracy percentage in two of his first three years). With what figures to be an improved offensive line and a healthy stable of weapons on the outside, the Colts are hoping they can teach Luck to avoid the mistakes that have haunted him in the past.
June 29, 2016 at 11:40 pm #47488
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Above we figured it as a 6 year contract, 12.8% of the salary. If we just use the 5 year numbers, it is 13.2% of the salary cap. The projected percentage for a franchise QB is 12.8% of the salary cap. However it is figured, it is pretty close. imo
Wow, The guaranteed numbers are very complicated numbers and not always what they seem. What we have here is a situation like Foles. The Colts could cut Luck in 2019 and have the virtually the same situation with Luck as we have with Foles now. imo
I am not going to attempt to explain how I arrive at that conclusion. You can trust me or not. š
They could cut Luck in 2020 with a minimal penalty. I think this contract was written with the intention of keeping Luck past the end of this contract. I think it is most likely that they do another extension in 2020 or 2021.
The historical figure of 12.8% of cap space, for QBs, might increase in future years, because QBs seem to becoming more scarce. I think it could go as high as 15% of cap space, although ~14% is a more likely maximum. imo
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June 30, 2016 at 1:49 am #47497
AgamemnonParticipantThe full Andrew Luck contract
Posted by Mike Florio on June 29, 2016, 5:36 PM EDTColts quarterback Andrew Luck would have made $16.155 million in 2016, the last year of his rookie deal. He traded it in for a six-year, $140 million contract.
But those broad numbers never tell the whole story, unless and until a contract like that is fully guaranteed. PFT has obtained a copy of the Luckās entire contract, and hereās the breakdown:
1. Signing bonus of $32 million, with $18 million paid in the next 10 days and the remaining $14 million paid on March 31, 2017;
2. Base salary of $12 million in 2016, fully guaranteed at signing;
3. $3 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2017 league year and paid on March 20, 2017, which is guaranteed for skill and injury, and conditionally guaranteed for salary cap;
4. $3 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2017 league year and paid on September 18, 2017, which is guaranteed for injury only at signing;
5. $7 million base salary for 2017, guaranteed for injury only at signing and fully guaranteed as of the fifth day of the 2017 league year;
6. $3 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2018 league year and paid on March 20, 2018, which is guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed as of the fifth day of the 2017 league year;
7. $3 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2018 league year and paid on September 18, 2018, which is guaranteed for injury only at signing;
8. $12 million base salary for 2018, which is guaranteed for injury only at signing but which becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2018 league year;
9. $6 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2019 league year and paid on March 18, 2019, which is guaranteed for injury at signing and fully guaranteed as of the fifth day of the 2018 league year;
10. $6 million roster bonus earned on the fifth day of the 2019 league year and paid on September 17, 2019, which is guaranteed for injury at signing;
11. $9.125 million base salary for 2019, non-guaranteed;
12. $11 million roster bonus due on the third day of the 2020 league year, with half paid on September 15, 2020 and the other half paid on December 15, 2020;
13. $11 million base salary for 2020, non-guaranteed;
14. $10 million roster bonus due on the fifth day of the 2021 league year, with half paid on September 14, 2021 and the other half paid on December 14, 2020; and
15. $11 million base salary for 2021, non-guaranteed.
Thatās a total of six years, $139.125 million, with $44 million fully guaranteed at signing. Another $16 million becomes fully guaranteed, as a practical matter, as of the fifth day of the 2017 league year.
At signing, $87 million is guaranteed for injury.
The cash flow breaks down like this: $44 million in 2017; $57 million through 2018; $75 million through 2018; $96.125 million through 2019; $118.125 million through 2020; $139.125 million through 2021.
Itās an average value of $23.1875 million per year, with $24.594 million per year in so-called ānew money.ā
The cap numbers are: (1) $18.4 million in 2016; (2) $19.4 million in 2017; (3) $24.4 million in 2018; (4) $27.525 million in 2019; (5) $28.4 million in 2020; and (6) $21 million in 2021.
June 30, 2016 at 1:55 am #47498
AgamemnonParticipantJim Irsay: No “out of whack” cap numbers in Luck deal
Jim Irsay: No āout of whackā cap numbers in Luck deal
Posted by Josh Alper on June 29, 2016, 6:26 PM EDT
Andrew Luck, T.Y. Hilton APThe Colts locked up their rights to quarterback Andrew Luck through the 2021 season on Wednesday, which means heāll be 32 when heās next scheduled to become a free agent.
Owner Jim Irsay said Wednesday that was something the team considered when putting together the six-year, $140 million pact. Irsay said, via Kevin Bowen of the teamās website, that the team factored in the rising salary cap and that they feel there are no āout of whackā cap numbers over the life of Luckās deal.
That includes 2021, when Luck will be due an $11 million base salary and a $10 million roster bonus should the current deal remain in place. Irsay said that was designed to make using the franchise tag a possibility should the team need to go that route.
āIt works with the cap,ā Irsay said. āIt works with tagging in the last year. I think both sides accomplished everything we wanted to do.ā
The current CBA runs through 2020, so there may be changes to the franchise tag system by the time Luckās status becomes an issue. Of more urgency will be the question of what the Colts do with the space provided by a deal they consider cap-friendly and whether it is enough to get Luck to the Super Bowl while heās being paid at the top of the ladder for quarterbacks.
It isn’t cap friendly. It isn’t out of whack. It is almost exactly what you would expect it be. It is the same cap percent that goes at least back as far as when Warner was a Ram. imo
June 30, 2016 at 2:47 am #47504
AgamemnonParticipantJune 30, 2016 at 12:44 pm #47558
AgamemnonParticipantA review of Andrew Luck's contract shows $47 million guaranteed at time of signing, $60 million guaranteed by start of 2017 league year.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) June 29, 2016
June 30, 2016 at 3:00 pm #47567
znModeratorAndrew Luck got paid, but he should have held out for more
The numbers are eye-popping at first, sure. But within the context of the NFL quarterback market, Andrew Luck’s new deal is a pretty big letdown.
This is a deal that has been anticipated for more than a year now by people around the NFL. Agents have been drooling in anticipation of a contract they believed would set new benchmarks and really drive the top of the quarterback market upward for the first time in years. Team executives have been watching to see how much of his considerable leverage Luck would wield against the Colts.
The answer? Not that much.
Look, there’s no crying for Luck here. The numbers set several records. The $87 million in injury guarantees ($47 million of which is guaranteed at signing) far surpasses the $65 million that Eli Manning got last year. The $23.3 million a year surpasses Aaron Rodgers’ $22 million and Joe Flacco’s $22.133 million. The $140 million total surpasses Jay Cutler’s $126.7 million.
But it’s not as great as it was supposed to be. The average salary is less than the $25 million many were predicting. The $47 million at signing is $13 million less than Ndamukong Suh got. Pushing off $27 million of the guarantee into the third and fourth years is seen by people around the league as too risky to the player. It’s a nice deal, not a great one.
In fact, it helps keep a surprisingly stagnant portion of the NFL marketplace stagnant.
The quarterback position really hasn’t kept pace with recent salary-cap growth. Since Rodgers signed his contract in 2013, the NFL’s salary cap has risen from $123 million to $155.27 million — an increase of 26.2 percent. Even counting Luck’s new deal, over that same time period, the top quarterback salary has risen 5.9 percent.
Why? Well, I’ve been asking agents and executives that question over the past few weeks in anticipation of a Luck deal, and they all say the same thing. Quarterback is the ultimate leadership position. How does it look in the locker room if you insist on setting records and eating up all the cap space? Remember last year, when Manning got so upset about a report that he wanted to make more than Rodgers made? He didn’t, a source said, and he hated that someone would suggest he did. This is the way these guys think — especially those like Manning and Ben Roethlisberger, who have won their Super Bowls and made their big second-contract money already.
But Luck should have been different. Luck should have raked the Colts over the coals. If ever a player were going to take a stand and demand the league’s first fully guaranteed veteran deal, this was the guy to do it. He didn’t even come close.
No time soon will any player wield the kind of leverage Luck had over the Colts. He’s universally recognized as a unique all-around talent — a respected leader with a brilliant brain, a huge arm and swift feet. He’s exactly the humble, half-goofy, badly bearded face of the franchise that the Colts want him to be. They’d be toast without him, and while yes, they could have franchised him next year for something in the low $20 million range, at some point he would have been able to threaten to leave.
Instead, like so many of his quarterback brethren before him, Luck chose to take the very pretty bird in the hand over the potentially historic bonanza in the bush. Tough to blame him, but if you’re a quarterback looking for a big deal in the coming years, he did kind of let you down.
Drew Brees has one year left on his Saints deal. He could conceivably ask for more than Luck, but it would have been far sweeter for him if Luck were sitting at $25 million a year than $23.3 million. Kirk Cousins could be in for a big payday if he plays out 2016 on his franchise tag number and has a big season. But how will he be able to argue for more than Luck next March? He was looking forward to drafting and slotting in behind Luck’s number the way guys like Manning, Roethlisberger and Russell Wilson were slotting in behind Rodgers not long ago. That slot was supposed to be more stratospheric than this.
We don’t know who from the group of very young, promising quarterbacks on their first contracts will end up looking for top-of-the-market deals. Jameis Winston? Blake Bortles? Derek Carr? Marcus Mariota? Jared Goff? One of them, maybe a few of them. But whoever they are, when their time comes, it appears they’ll be stuck in a quarterback market that doesn’t seem to want to skyrocket. And if Luck plays the way the Colts and the rest of the world think he can, then those players’ teams can hold Luck out as an outlier to whom they don’t have the right to compare themselves.
If anybody was going to blast through the ceiling of the NFL quarterback market, it was going to be Andrew Luck. Instead, he settled for just nudging it upward a bit
June 30, 2016 at 11:15 pm #47587
AgamemnonParticipantJune 30, 2016 at 11:32 pm #47588
AgamemnonParticipantForget the way the guy did his calculations. He is comparing Rogers 5 year money to Lucks 6 year money. He then uses the date they signed to make a comparison. Aaron Rodgers signed a 5 year, $110,000,000 contract with the Green Bay Packers, Andrew Luck signed a 5 year, $122,970,000 contract with the Indianapolis Colts.
Rogers is 22M/yr. Luck is 24.6M/yr. If you then take the yearly figure for each player, over the new years of their contracts, They both are getting 13.2% of the cap.
He is right about the contract really isn’t out of whack and that Luck might have been able to get more. But isn’t as big a deal as he makes out and he uses with faulty logic/math to try to make a point. imo
As you can see above, The percentage paid to franchise QBs has increased over the years. I was only able to go back to 2008. I steadily goes up until the new CBA. They then changed the way they calculate the franchise number. Instead of an average of the 5 highest salaries. They go back over 5 years to get that average. That makes it drop a bit. But it is now trending up. I suspected that. It isn’t a big deal, unless QBs go over 14.2% of the cap. imo
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July 1, 2016 at 4:23 am #47591
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znModeratorAgent’s Take: How Andrew Luck’s mega-deal sets the table for these 7 QBs
Or how Matthew Stafford could become the NFL’s highest-paid player in 2017Here’s a look at the quarterbacks who could reap the benefit from Luck’s new contract in the next couple of years.
Drew Brees QB / New Orleans Saints
Conventional wisdom suggested that the Saints would sign Brees to an extension before free agency started on March 9 to lower his league-high $30 million 2016 cap number since he is entering the final year of his five-year, $100 million contract. That deal signed in 2012 made him the NFL’s first $20 million man and re-set the league’s pay scale. A new deal would have given the Saints more flexibility to improve the team and its porous defense.
An agreement would have already been reached if Brees was willing to give the Saints some sort of hometown discount. Luck’s deal gives Tom Condon, Brees’ agent, more ammunition for a healthy increase over his existing deal. It will probably take making Brees the NFL’s second-highest paid player, pushing him closer to Luck’s $24.594 million average yearly salary than Flacco’s $22,133,333 per year on a front-loaded deal with player friendly guarantees in order for him to sign an extension.
The Saints taking a wait-and-see approach at this late stage of the offseason, where the 37-year-old stays at his $30 million cap number may make more sense. But using a franchise tag on him in 2017 would be cost prohibitive as Brees’ franchise tag number will be $43.09 million, which is based on 144 percent of his 2016 cap number.
Kirk Cousins QB / Washington Redskins
Kirk Cousins is playing the 2016 season on a $19.953 million non-exclusive franchise tag unless a long-term deal is reached prior to the July 15 deadline for franchise players to sign multi-year contracts, which seems unlikely.
The 2012 fourth-round pick has more to gain than lose by playing under the franchise tag. Given there are more NFL teams than competent starting quarterbacks, Cousins could still be line for a contract similar to Sam Bradford’s even with a slight regression or mediocre 2016 season.
Bradford remained with the Philadelphia Eagles on a two-year deal averaging $17.5 million per year, which has $22 million fully guaranteed. The Redskinscould be forced to franchise Cousins again next year for $23,943,600 if he demonstrates he is an ascending player in 2016. This would put Cousins in position to command a long-term deal averaging a minimum of $24 million per year where he’s in the same ballpark as Luck in other key contract metrics.
Matthew Stafford QB / Detroit Lions
As crazy as it may sound, there is a plausible scenario where Stafford, who is under contract through the 2017 season, becomes the NFL’s highest-paid player next offseason. Stafford hasn’t consistently performed at the same level he did during his 2011 breakout season in which he threw for 5,038 yards and 41 touchdown passes.
There were rumblings that Stafford’s days in Detroit could be numbered with the Lions beginning last season 0-5, which put head coach Jim Caldwell’s job in jeopardy. Stafford had the best eight-game stretch of his career over the second half of the season after Jim Bob Cooter was promoted from quarterbacks coach to replace Joe Lombardi as offensive coordinator. The 28-year-old threw for 2,179 yards with 19 touchdowns and two interceptions while completing 70 percent of his passes on a 110.1 passer rating.
Matthew Stafford as the NFL’s highest-paid player? Yeah, it could happen. USATSI
Stafford lost his security blanket, six-time Pro Bowl wide receiver Calvin Johnson, to a premature retirement. If Stafford thrives without Johnson, his agent, Condon, will drive an extremely hard bargain in any negotiations for an extension.Aaron Rodgers QB / Green Bay Packers
The Packers gave Rodgers a five-year, $110 million extension that made him the NFL’s highest-paid player in 2013 when he had two years remaining on his contract. Adhering to this same timetable would put Rodgers in line for a new deal after the 2017 season when he is 34 years old.
The two-time league MVP is still widely regarded as the NFL’s best quarterback despite a subpar 2015 season by his standards. Rodgers had his lowest completion percentage (60.7) and quarterback rating (92.7) since becoming a starter in 2008 while his favorite target, Jordy Nelson, was sidelined for the year with a torn ACL in his right knee. As long as 2015 is an anomaly for Rodgers, the Packers shouldn’t have an issue putting him back at the top of the NFL’s salary hierarchy on his next contract, presumably in 2018.
2014 Quarterback Draft Class
The 2014 draft class becomes eligible to sign extensions at the conclusion of the 2016 regular season on New Year’s Day. Oakland Raiders’ second-round pick Derek Carr could get the first new deal because 2017 is his contract year. First-round picks Blake Bortles and Teddy Bridgewater won’t be in contract years until 2018 since they are subject to fifth year options.
Carr and Bortles showed more improvement from their rookie years than Bridgewater during their sophomore campaigns. Bridgewater is in more of a need of a breakout season than Carr and Bortles because of the Minnesota Vikings’ run-oriented offense despite having more team success.
Carr developed instant rapport with his new wideouts, 2015 fourth overall pick Amari Cooper and free agent pick up Michael Crabtree last season. The connection is only going to get better with another year together. The Raiders getting to playoffs for the first time in 14 years with Carr continuing to progress will allow him to become one of the league’s highest-paid players. It will be interesting to see what type of effect, if any, 2014 fifth overall pick Khalil Mack’s future contract, which should make him the NFL’s highest-paid non-quarterback, will have on Carr’s deal.
Derek Carr will likely be the first QB from the 2014 class to cash in. USATSI
Bortles set Jaguars single-season franchise records for touchdown passes (35), passing yards (4,428), pass attempts (606) and completions (355) in 2015. He was tied for second in the NFL in touchdown passes. Cutting down on a league-leading 18 interceptions is a part of the next step in Bortles’ development.The Jaguars are willing to pay productive players near the top of their respective markets. When Julius Thomas signed as an unrestricted free agent in 2015, he became the NFL’s second highest-paid tight end with a five-year, $46 million contract containing $24 million in guarantees. Allen Hurns’ recent four-year, $40.05 million extension (worth up to $44.05 million through salary escalators) makes him the NFL’s highest-paid No. 2 wide receiver. This bodes well for Bortles potentially setting the market with his next contract.
July 2, 2016 at 10:16 am #47652
znModeratorIf you look at deals for young starting qbs getting a 2nd contract, they tend to center around an avg. amount. That avg. amount goes up. Right now, with Luck, Wilson, Newton, Cousins, and Tannenhill, that seems to be around 22 M, with the high at 24.5+ and the low at 19.2+.
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znModeratorRussell Wilson vs. Andrew Luck: Breaking down the numbers
After Andrew Luck signed his contract extension with the Indianapolis Colts last week, I took a look at how he and Russell Wilson compare four years into their respective careers.
Statistically, Wilson has the edge in just about every category. The post addressed the fact that Wilson has had a superior run game, a better defense and a more stable organization behind him.
But there are other arguments that readers brought up, so as we wait for training camp, I thought I’d address them in a second post.
1. Wilson has operated in more favorable game situations.
This is true. For example, 52.9 percent of Luck’s career passing attempts have been made when the Colts were trailing. For Wilson, that number is only 38.9 percent. But even in those situations, Wilson’s numbers are superior.
When Trailing
The statistics of Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson and Colts quarterback Andrew Luck when trailing in games.
COMP% YPA TD/INT RATIO RATING
Wilson 64.19 7.8 2.1 to 1 96.8
Luck 55.78 7 1.38 to 1 79.2
If you look at when the Colts and Seahawks have been tied or trailing, it’s the same story.Tied or Trailing
The statistics of Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson and Colts quarterback Andrew Luck when tied or trailing in games.
COMP% YPA TD/INT RATIO RATING
Wilson 64.18 7.68 2.46 to 1 96.49
Luck 57.23 6.94 1.41 to 1 80.44
So it’s certainly fair to point out that Luck has had to play from behind more than Wilson, but there’s no evidence that suggests Wilson would struggle in the same situations.2. Wilson can’t operate from the pocket as well as Luck.
The numbers here favor Wilson, but some have argued that the statistics are misleading because Wilson leaves the pocket too much.
Inside the Pocket
The statistics of Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson and Colts quarterback Andrew Luck when passing in the pocket.
COMP% YPA TD/INT RATIO RATING
Wilson 67.8 8.16 3.07 105.9
Luck 59.1 7.18 1.79 86.1
Seahawks coaches have been pretty honest in pointing out when this has been an issue. As recently as the first half of last season, they noted that some of the offensive line problems were on Wilson for not trusting his eyes and holding on to the football.But it seemed like Wilson turned the corner in the second half of last season. From Weeks 10 to 17, he was sacked on 4.9 percent of his dropbacks. Only seven quarterbacks in the NFL had a lower number during that span. In those eight games, Wilson threw 25 touchdowns against two interceptions and had a passer rating of 124.3. The Seahawks’ offense averaged 31.25 points per game.
Quarterbacks are scrutinized more heavily than any other position, but at some point we’re nitpicking. Every quarterback misses open receivers. But neither the film nor the numbers suggest that Wilson leaving the pocket too often was a serious issue in the second half of last year.
3. Wilson would struggle if asked to do as much as Luck.
I think this is one area where some underestimate Wilson’s ceiling and what makes him effective. He has the third-lowest interception percentage in NFL history, behind only Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. He’s never missed a game. And while he has benefited from playing with a great running back, Wilson has been a factor in making the running game effective.
In 2010 and 2011, the Seahawks had Marshawn Lynch. They ranked 28th and 14th in rushing efficiency, according to Football Outsiders. In four years with Wilson, they’ve ranked first twice, third and seventh. Obviously, there are other factors, but Wilson has to be accounted for by opposing defenses in the Seahawks’ run game.
In the last four games of 2015, the Seahawks relied on Christine Michael, DuJuan Harris and Bryce Brown at running back. During that stretch, Wilson threw 13 touchdowns and one interception and had a passer rating of 120.6. The offense averaged 29.5 points per game. And that was without Wilson having a single Pro Bowl teammate on offense.
It’s completely fair to suggest that Wilson has been put in a more favorable situation than Luck with the running game and defense. But there is no evidence to this point that suggests he struggles when asked to carry a bigger load.
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