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December 26, 2016 at 9:34 pm #61857
znModeratorThere’s some movement where Greg can go to left tackle, (G) Rodger (Saffold) can go right tackle. Or, keep Rodger at left tackle, Pace at right tackle, and Greg can swing. So, those are discussions that are happening right now. But, yes, I would anticipate him being active on game day, and likely playing.”
(On the possibility of Robinson being moved to guard this week)
“That’s been discussed, yes, and I think the rest of the day will determine what our lineup will be. We have really until tonight as a staff to come up with our lineup and our game plan for tomorrow’s install. So, that’s under consideration.”
The whole press conference is here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/fassel-1226-transcript/
December 26, 2016 at 9:48 pm #61858
nittany ramModeratorThere’s some movement where Greg can go to left tackle, (G) Rodger (Saffold) can go right tackle. Or, keep Rodger at left tackle, Pace at right tackle, and Greg can swing…”
Pace at right tackle?
M’kay, but he’s more suited for left tackle, but I’m not going to complain.
Maybe they can put Saul at center and Harrah and Mack at guard while they’re at it too.
December 26, 2016 at 10:21 pm #61860
wvParticipantI have officially given up on Robinson being a ‘good’ Left Tackle, so I endorse the Robinson-at-Guard experiment.
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vDecember 28, 2016 at 10:56 am #61953
znModeratorPractice Report 12/27: Rams Tinkering with Offensive Line
By Myles Simmons
There are likely more changes coming to the Rams’ offensive line for Week 17 against the Cardinals.
With right tackle Rob Havenstein day-to-day with an ankle injury, Los Angeles is looking at the possibility of moving around offensive lineman Rodger Saffold once again. Saffold started his second game of the 2016 season at left tackle on Saturday, having spent the year primarily at left guard.
For Tuesday’s light practice — which interim head coach John Fassel characterized as more of a walk-through — L.A. had Saffold working at both left and right tackle. When Saffold was at left tackle, rookie Pace Murphyworked opposite him. With Saffold on the right, Greg Robinson worked as the left tackle.
“That’s kind of the lineups we’re tinkering with,” Fassel said. “Very likely, by tomorrow, we’ll have something pretty determined because that’s our big practice. But they’ll be ready.”
Saffold did work at right tackle for much of the Rams’ offseason program and training camp, with Havenstein recovering from offseason surgery at that time. And so the veteran lineman said after Tuesday’s practice that he’s embracing the challenge of getting prepared for wherever the coaches decide to place him for Sunday’s game.
“It’s basically like telling you to go from being left handed to just, hey, just start being right handed — which is not the easiest,” Saffold said. “Makes this last week pretty eventful. I already watched a lot of film, so I’m on the right track to get it done.”
As for Robinson, the third-year tackle was deactivated for the second time this season against the 49ers. Fassel said after the game that decision was not made to make Robinson a kind of scapegoat, but with the thinking that Saffold at tackle and Jamon Brown at left guard could help spark the run game.
“It probably caught me off guard at the beginning of the week,” Robinson said. “It was a decision they made as a staff and I just took it on the chest and tried my best to be positive about it.”
“My mindset hasn’t changed all season,” Robinson continued. “All I can do is just focus on me personally getting better and trying my best to perform at the best of my ability week-in and week-out. I don’t think, as a competitor, that I would let it get to me because then it would hinder me a little bit. So I think the best thing is just, go out to practice each week and try my best to get better.”
While Fassel mentioned on Monday there had been some discussion among the coaching staff regarding moving Robinson to guard. But that will not come to fruition this week.
“Greg — benched last week — I talked to him about being ready to go this week, he took to it and I would imagine that he would perform at the highest of his ability,” Fassel said.
Really, I think the best thing for him is to give him one spot and let him really just focus on that,” Fassel added. “That was a discussion, but I would imagine that there will be one position picked for him and master this position. I think that’s where he’s at and that’s what’s best for him.”
Likely because of that, Robinson did not appear to have a position change on his mind when asked about it following practice.
“If that opportunity ever presents itself to me, and I feel it’s best for me, then that would be the time to talk about it,” Robinson said. “But, right now, that’s in the wind — I don’t know anything about that.”
Generally, though, the offensive line as a unit would like to finish the season on a high note by protecting quarterback Jared Goff well and springing running back Todd Gurley for a big day on the ground.
“That’s definitely the goal, but in order to run the ball, it’s going to take more than the offensive line,” Saffold said. “In order to protect the quarterback, it’s going to take more than the offensive line. Everybody has to do their job and we need to be consistent at doing their jobs. So, we’ll just see how it goes.”
December 28, 2016 at 11:01 am #61954
znModeratorWith inconsistent play of Greg Robinson, Rams struggling to find solution at left tackle
RICH HAMMOND
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/robinson-739611-rams-season.html
THOUSAND OAKS – The Rams thought they solved their left tackle problem in 2014. Perhaps not.
Greg Robinson, the No. 2 overall pick in that year’s draft, is near the end of a difficult season. His streak of 38 consecutive starts ended last month and he has been inactive for two of the last five games.
“It kind of caught me off guard,” Robinson said after Tuesday’s practice at Cal Lutheran. “I don’t really know what to expect, week in and week out. It was a decision they made as a staff, and I just took it on the chest and I’ll try my best to be positive about it.”
It’s premature to say the Rams have given up on Robinson, the most-penalized offensive player in the NFL this season, but it’s not too early to say they’re exploring their options, and possible changes.
Robinson was inactive last week but is expected to play Sunday in the Rams’ season finale against Arizona. He might even start again at left tackle, but that wouldn’t mean the end of the issue, because Robinson’s young career clearly has reached an important juncture.
“He’s been a little slower to develop than we all would have liked,” General Manager Les Snead said recently. “He’s got some skills that we can make successful. We now have to go back to the drawing board and ask, in our plan for success, where have we gone wrong? Where have we gone right?”
If right tackle Rob Havenstein is unable to play Sunday because of injury, Rodger Saffold could shift there and Robinson could return at left tackle. Rams interim coach John Fassel said Monday that Robinson might get snaps at guard, but Fassel backed away from that Tuesday. Perhaps Robinson could thrive at guard, but a move would be an acknowledgement that things aren’t working at tackle.
Robinson hasn’t played guard since he started there for one game as a rookie. Asked whether he would be open to changing positions, Robinson was noncommittal.
“I haven’t talked to (the Rams) about it,” Robinson said. “If that opportunity ever presents itself to me and I feel it’s best for me, then that would be the time to talk about it, but right now, that’s in the wind. I don’t really know about that.”
Robinson’s NFL-leading 15 penalties have nullified 92 Rams yards. That’s the most of any left tackle and third among offensive lineman.
Robinson’s penalties have “stalled” eight drives, the highest total of any offensive lineman. The NFL defines a stalled drive as one in which a team fails to get a first down or score after a particular penalty.
This isn’t new. Robinson also struggled last season, but the Rams had hope. At the start of training camp, they touted Robinson’s offseason work with former Pro Bowl lineman LeCharles Bentley, and then-Coach Jeff Fisher praised Robinson’s dedication. It didn’t last long, as the penalties and mistakes mounted.
“I think what happens when you get frustrated and you go through a stretch with a couple penalties, you almost revert back to what got you here, which wasn’t the right technique,” Snead said. “That’s when you’ve got to calm him down. Sit down. Take a deep breath.”
The Rams tried that last month, when Fisher ended Robinson’s 38-start streak and made him inactive in New Orleans, even though dozens of Robinson’s friends and family made plans to attend the game.
Robinson returned to the lineup the following week, but the “time out,” as Fisher called it, didn’t lead to much. Last week against San Francisco, the Rams made Robinson inactive and chose to play Pace Murphy, an undrafted rookie the Rams signed in April.
Snead joked recently that his 15-year-old son went online and researched the players the Rams could have selected instead of Robinson with that No. 2 overall pick in 2014. It’s extensive.
Already, 17 players from that 2014 draft have been picked for the Pro Bowl. That includes Tennessee left tackle Taylor Lewan, drafted nine spots after Robinson. Lewan made the Pro Bowl this season.
Robinson remains under contract through next season, but his future will be in the hands of a yet-unknown new coach, whom the Rams will hire next month.
Should the Rams seek an upgrade at left tackle, the expected free-agent market is not deep. Matt Kalil, a Corona native and former USC standout, is in the final year of his contract in Minnesota but has been on injured reserve since September after hip surgery. Cincinnati’s Andrew Whitworth and Jacksonville’s Kelvin Beachum are the only other starting left tackles set to become unrestricted free agents.
Or perhaps the Rams will hope that Robinson simply is a late bloomer.
Robinson didn’t play tackle until his first season at Auburn in 2012, and he started only 25 games before he declared for the draft as a redshirt sophomore. The Rams made Robinson a starter five games into his rookie season, but progress hasn’t been swift.
“My mindset hasn’t changed all season,” Robinson said. “All I can do it just focus on getting better and trying my best to perform at the best of my ability, week in and week out. I don’t think, as a competitor, that I would let it get to me, because then it would hinder me a little bit. I think the best thing is just to go out to practice each week and try my best to get better.”
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