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April 26, 2018 at 8:49 pm #85405znModerator
About what time tomorrow do they pick?
April 26, 2018 at 9:14 pm #85406InvaderRamModeratori can’t even stand it right now. i’m bored.
April 27, 2018 at 12:39 am #85411AgamemnonParticipantApril 27, 2018 at 1:30 am #85414InvaderRamModeratori don’t think any edge rushers were picked in the first round. good for the rams.
April 27, 2018 at 4:32 am #85415AgamemnonParticipantBest available #NFLDraft Day 2:
8. DE Harold Landry
13. CB Josh Jackson
21. C James Daniels
22. WR Courtland Sutton
26. DE Josh Sweat
28. T Connor Williams
29. DT Maurice Hurst
30. S Justin Reid
31. G Will Hernandez
33. CB Isaiah Oliver
36. RB Derrius Guice
38. S Jessie Bates— Thor Nystrom (@thorku) April 27, 2018
April 27, 2018 at 4:33 am #85416AgamemnonParticipanti don’t think any edge rushers were picked in the first round. good for the rams.
Chub, Davenport.
April 27, 2018 at 8:42 am #85417InvaderRamModeratorChub, Davenport.
i consider chub more of just a defensive end, but yeah. davenport. and edmunds i think could be best as an edge rusher even though many consider him an inside linebacker.
April 27, 2018 at 9:04 am #85419JackPMillerParticipantSome best other players that I could see going early in round 2
OLB Malik Jefferson Texas
OT Connor Williams Texas
OT Martinas Rankin Mississippi State
OT Brian O’Neil Pitt
WR Christian Kirk Texas A&M
CB Carlton Davis Auburn
CB Nick Nelson Wisconsin
RB Kerryon Johnson AuburnApril 27, 2018 at 9:14 am #85421wvParticipantI’d like to see the Browns rise from the ashes this year. Maybe win the AFC. Maybe play the Dream-Team in the Super Bowl.
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vApril 27, 2018 at 9:15 am #85422znModeratorLMU93 sez:
my best available for Day 2
I look at players with overall rankings between 60-85 and I will bet around 7-10 of them are still there at #87. There is a lot of talent the Rams can get at 87 or through a minor trade up. Also factor in the 6-10 inevitable reaches and even more will be there. And maybe one or two of these 85 are still there at 111…
My guess is they will move around quite a bit. Up from 87, back from 111 (probably adding yet another 6th) and then packaging some 6ths up into the 5th. I think in the end they end up with one 3rd, two 4ths, two 5ths and two 6ths.
The list
17 Harold Landry DE/OLB Boston College
22 Josh Jackson CB Iowa
23 Will Hernandez OG UTEP
25 Derrius Guice RB LSU
26 James Daniels C Iowa
30 Connor Williams OT/G Texas
33 Isaiah Oliver CB Colorado
34 Christian Kirk WR Texas A&M
35 Courtland Sutton WR SMU
36 Ronnie Harrison S Alabama
39 Donte Jackson CB LSU
41 Maurice Hurst DT Michigan
42 Nick Chubb RB Georgia
43 Dallas Goedert TE South Dakota State
44 Carlton Davis CB Auburn
45 Austin Corbett OG Nevada
46 Justin Reid S Stanford
47 Sam Hubbard DE Ohio State
48 Lorenzo Carter OLB Georgia
49 Mike Gesicki TE Penn State
51 Tyrell Crosby OT Oregon
52 Mason Rudolph QB Oklahoma State
53 Jesse Bates S Wake Forest
54 Harrison Phillips DT Stanford
55 Ronald Jones RB USC
56 Anthony Miller WR Memphis
57 Nathan Shepherd DT Fort Hays State
59 Arden Key DE/OLB LSU
60 DJ Chark WR LSU
61 Rasheem Green DT/DE USC
62 Braden Smith OG Auburn
63 James Washington WR Oklahoma State
64 Brian O’Neill OT Pittsburgh
65 Dante Pettis WR Washington
66 Kerryon Johnson RB Auburn
67 Malik Jefferson ILB Texas
69 Martinas Rankin OT/C Mississippi State
70 Kemoko Turay OLB Rutgers
71 Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma
72 Uchenna Nwosu OLB USC
73 Michael Gallup WR Colorado State
74 Orlando Brown OT Oklahoma
75 BJ Hill DT North Carolina State
76 Josh Sweat OLB Florida State
77 Geron Christian OT Louisville
78 Fred Warner LB BYU
79 Chukwuma Okorafor OT Western Michigan
80 Anthony Averett CB Alabama
81 Jerome Baker OLB Ohio State
82 Rashaan Gaulden CB/FS Tennessee
83 Ian Thomas TE Indiana
84 Duke Dawson CB Florida
85 Da’Shawn Hand DT Alabama
86 Breeland Speaks OLB Ole Miss
87 Tarvarius Moore S Southern Mississippi
88 Equanimeous St. Brown WR Notre Dame
89 Darius Leonard LB South Carolina State
90 Josey Jewell ILB Iowa
91 Duke Ejiofor OLB Wake Forest
92 Ogbonnia Okoronkwo OLB Oklahoma
93 Royce Freeman RB Oregon
94 Kyle Lauletta QB Richmond
95 Shaquem Griffin LB Central Florida
96 Jamarco Jones OT Ohio State
97 Nyheim Hines RB North Carolina State
98 Derrick Nnadi DT Florida State
99 Marcus Allen S Penn State
100 Joseph Noteboom OT TCU
101 DaeSean Hamilton WR Penn State
102 Quenton Meeks CB Stanford
103 Cole Madison OL Washington State
104 Kyzir White S West Virginia
105 Deadrin Senat DT South FloridaApril 27, 2018 at 9:22 am #85423znModeratorI’d like to see the Browns rise from the ashes this year.
Your guy, the lineman Wynn, got taken by the Patz.
At 23. Formerly the Rams pick.
April 27, 2018 at 9:40 am #85424znModeratorRams haven’t done too badly in round 6, considering the odds of getting anything there. I blue-bold what I consider to be the hits, and then green bold what I consider to be “maybe, depth guy”)
2012 6 171 Greg Zuerlein (hit…not just a kicker, pro bowl)
2014 6 214 Garrett Gilbert
2014 6 188 E.J. Gaines (I count him as a hit, starter last year with Buffalo and signed with Cleveland, is at least good depth)
2015 6 215 Cody Wichmann (Now a back-up with the Titans)
2015 6 201 Bud Sasser
2016 6 206 Mike Thomas (valuable special teamer, don’t know if there’s more to him)
2016 6 190 Josh Forrest (injured, signed by Seattle)
2016 6 177 Temarrick Hemingway (hurt last year, still gets a bit of buzz as a possible third TE)2 hits out of 8 hits is 25%, which beats the average, and if you count hits + possible depth guys, it’s between 3 and 4, which is between 37.5%-50%.
If nothing else round 6 could be good for keeping special teams stocked and good. Normally people would scoff at that, except with the Rams, special teams are a team strength.
And, yes they could trade up too.
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April 27, 2018 at 12:01 pm #85430znModeratorDemoff on a topic that interests me. Rams draft process. This portion starts at about 8 mins in. Audio posted here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/les-snead-sean-mcvay-post-round-1-presser/#post-85427
Who controls the draft room? Is there discussion, debate?
KD: Every place is different. Usually GMs are in control . All the debating and arguing for the most part has gone on for the last 2-3 months and your coaches have had their say and the scouts have had their say and you have your board lined up for who you are going to take, you scenario and gameplan [before draft day]. Even now with no 1st round pick they’ve gone through 5 or 6 mock drafts and asked what would you do if this player is available v. this player. You really have those discussions leading up to the draft and then when you get to the draft you pretty much know your plan. The excitement comes from whether you’re going to trade up for a player or if you’re going to trade down. Usually if you’re 5 picks out you put 5 names on the board and say we’re going to take one of these 5 and you know you’re going to get one. The scary part is when you put 5 names on the board 10 picks out and you hope one of those 5 guys is there. About 4 or 5 picks away you usually bring in the coordinator and the position coach and get one last confirmation, so this is the guy you want and everyone’s on board with this. Usually just re-affirming what has been discussed for months. Usually it’s fairly orderly. Every now and then you get the player who falls or a fun trade on the clock but it’s probably more routine than you would ever imagine.
April 27, 2018 at 6:46 pm #85431AgamemnonParticipantApril 27, 2018 at 7:36 pm #85435znModeratorMyles Simmons@MylesASimmons
GM Les Snead tells me there’s a 33% chance #LARams move up from No. 87, 33% chance they stay pat, and 33% chance they move back. So, as he put it, 66% chance they’ll trade the pick,April 27, 2018 at 7:54 pm #85437znModeratorTitans took Landry.
April 27, 2018 at 8:00 pm #85438InvaderRamModeratorTitans took Landry.
i read that he had some medical issues which caused him to drop.
April 27, 2018 at 8:01 pm #85439JackPMillerParticipantMyles Simmons@MylesASimmons
GM Les Snead tells me there’s a 33% chance #LARams move up from No. 87, 33% chance they stay pat, and 33% chance they move back. So, as he put it, 66% chance they’ll trade the pick,What about the other 1%?
April 27, 2018 at 8:12 pm #85440znModeratorDeadpool sez:
2018 Position Rankings
Edge:
Good class, great depth, but the value is in the 3rd thru the 6th, 7th rounds. I would certainly wait until then to draft one. The # in the parenthesis is the overall rank of the player in regards to the big board.
Key is the real wildcard here. His off field stuff no one knows the truth about except the teams that checked him out, plus his 4.9 40 at his proday was dubious. But when he was in shape and focused, his 2016 was pretty special.
(23) Harold Landry – Edge – Boston College – 6′-3″ 252 lbs. – Played DE in college. Will be a stand up OLB in a 34. A speed to power converter that gets to the QB. Can get stronger against the run.
(32) Arden Key – Edge – LSU – 6′-6″ 238 lbs. – Prototype pass rushing 3-4 edge. Dominated 2016. Injuries and off the field concerns make him next to impossible to rank for a hack like me.
(47) Lorenzo Carter – Edge – Georgia – 6′-5″ 250 lbs. – Warmed up to him after seeing more. Long and fluid. Just tarting to live up to his potential. Can get bigger and stronger. Can set an edge against the run. More athletic and loose framed then some of the other edge defenders.
(54) Dorance Armstrong Jr. – Edge – Kansas – 6′-4″ 246 lbs. – Long, lean with a natural bend and a quick first step to help him get the edge. Will need to get stronger and develop more pass rush moves.
(66) Kemoko Turay- Edge – Rutgers – 6′-5″ 253 lbs. – Didn’t notice him until Senior Bowl. A speed to power edge rusher that makes plays all over. Shoulder injury concerns.
(67) Uchenna Nwosu – Edge – USC – 6′-2″ 251 lbs. – Pass rush specialist that could grow into a full time edge backer. Smooth athlete needs to get stronger.
(75) Josh Sweat – Edge – FSU – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – Size/speed/ athlete that has tons of upside, so there’s some projection with him. Can set an edge, needs to get more consistant.
(97) Ogbonnia Okoronkwo – Edge - Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 253 lbs. – A tad short, but explosive and makes plays. Takes a variety of paths to the QB but is too stiff to dip and rip to get the edge.
(105) Jeff Holland – Edge – Auburn – 6′-1″ 249 lbs. – Another tad short edge rusher that is relentless and tough. Can anchor against the run. Good hand fighter. Stiff, with little bend to get the edge.
April 27, 2018 at 8:14 pm #85441ZooeyModeratorMyles Simmons@MylesASimmons
GM Les Snead tells me there’s a 33% chance #LARams move up from No. 87, 33% chance they stay pat, and 33% chance they move back. So, as he put it, 66% chance they’ll trade the pick,What about the other 1%?
They might just forfeit the pick because why waste the salary cap space when they already have the Super Bowl wrapped up anyway.
April 27, 2018 at 8:22 pm #85442InvaderRamModeratori like that list, zn.
dorance armstrong, lorenzo carter, ogbonnia okoronkwo, josh sweat. all still available. maybe the rams trade up if one of them is still available at the top of the third round.
April 27, 2018 at 8:35 pm #85443znModeratorChargers took Nwosu.
Colts took Turay.
So edge as of now:
(23) Harold Landry – Edge – Boston College – 6′-3″ 252 lbs. – Played DE in college. Will be a stand up OLB in a 34. A speed to power converter that gets to the QB. Can get stronger against the run.(32) Arden Key – Edge – LSU – 6′-6″ 238 lbs. – Prototype pass rushing 3-4 edge. Dominated 2016. Injuries and off the field concerns make him next to impossible to rank for a hack like me.
(47) Lorenzo Carter – Edge – Georgia – 6′-5″ 250 lbs. – Warmed up to him after seeing more. Long and fluid. Just tarting to live up to his potential. Can get bigger and stronger. Can set an edge against the run. More athletic and loose framed then some of the other edge defenders.
(54) Dorance Armstrong Jr. – Edge – Kansas – 6′-4″ 246 lbs. – Long, lean with a natural bend and a quick first step to help him get the edge. Will need to get stronger and develop more pass rush moves.
(66) Kemoko Turay- Edge – Rutgers – 6′-5″ 253 lbs. – Didn’t notice him until Senior Bowl. A speed to power edge rusher that makes plays all over. Shoulder injury concerns.(67) Uchenna Nwosu – Edge – USC – 6′-2″ 251 lbs. – Pass rush specialist that could grow into a full time edge backer. Smooth athlete needs to get stronger.(75) Josh Sweat – Edge – FSU – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – Size/speed/ athlete that has tons of upside, so there’s some projection with him. Can set an edge, needs to get more consistant.
(97) Ogbonnia Okoronkwo – Edge - Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 253 lbs. – A tad short, but explosive and makes plays. Takes a variety of paths to the QB but is too stiff to dip and rip to get the edge.
(105) Jeff Holland – Edge – Auburn – 6′-1″ 249 lbs. – Another tad short edge rusher that is relentless and tough. Can anchor against the run. Good hand fighter. Stiff, with little bend to get the edge.
April 27, 2018 at 9:15 pm #85447InvaderRamModeratorsecond round is now over.
armstrong, carter, sweat, and okoronkwo all still available.
i like all these guys.
i don’t like key.
22 picks until rams third rounder.
April 27, 2018 at 9:30 pm #85448JackPMillerParticipantCarter is now gone.
April 27, 2018 at 9:37 pm #85450znModeratorCarter is now gone.
(23) Harold Landry – Edge – Boston College – 6′-3″ 252 lbs. – Played DE in college. Will be a stand up OLB in a 34. A speed to power converter that gets to the QB. Can get stronger against the run.(32) Arden Key – Edge – LSU – 6′-6″ 238 lbs. – Prototype pass rushing 3-4 edge. Dominated 2016. Injuries and off the field concerns make him next to impossible to rank for a hack like me.
(47) Lorenzo Carter – Edge – Georgia – 6′-5″ 250 lbs. – Warmed up to him after seeing more. Long and fluid. Just tarting to live up to his potential. Can get bigger and stronger. Can set an edge against the run. More athletic and loose framed then some of the other edge defenders.(54) Dorance Armstrong Jr. – Edge – Kansas – 6′-4″ 246 lbs. – Long, lean with a natural bend and a quick first step to help him get the edge. Will need to get stronger and develop more pass rush moves.
(66) Kemoko Turay- Edge – Rutgers – 6′-5″ 253 lbs. – Didn’t notice him until Senior Bowl. A speed to power edge rusher that makes plays all over. Shoulder injury concerns.(67) Uchenna Nwosu – Edge – USC – 6′-2″ 251 lbs. – Pass rush specialist that could grow into a full time edge backer. Smooth athlete needs to get stronger.(75) Josh Sweat – Edge – FSU – 6′-5″ 252 lbs. – Size/speed/ athlete that has tons of upside, so there’s some projection with him. Can set an edge, needs to get more consistant.
(97) Ogbonnia Okoronkwo – Edge - Oklahoma – 6′-2″ 253 lbs. – A tad short, but explosive and makes plays. Takes a variety of paths to the QB but is too stiff to dip and rip to get the edge.
(105) Jeff Holland – Edge – Auburn – 6′-1″ 249 lbs. – Another tad short edge rusher that is relentless and tough. Can anchor against the run. Good hand fighter. Stiff, with little bend to get the edge.
April 27, 2018 at 9:54 pm #85452znModeratorApril 27, 2018 at 10:04 pm #85453ZooeyModeratorIn the chat room for Rams pick
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April 27, 2018 at 10:33 pm #85454znModeratorJoseph Noteboom, OT, TCU
Scouting Report:
Has a confounding prospect profile that is typical of most of the offensive linemen coming into the NFL lately- shows signs of good technique, balance, hand usage, bend, etc., but is wildly inconsistent. This pattern has much more to do with the offensive systems and the type of coaching they are receiving, as it doesn’t match what is expected of them in the next level. However, he showed well during the Senior Bowl, and if teams decide that circumstance is the reason that his tape is what it is, he could move into middle, even upper rounds. He has a big frame, but needs to add more quality bulk, but his athleticism and technique have shown enough to get the attention of scouts.
April 27, 2018 at 11:04 pm #85463InvaderRamModeratorhe’s got length – 34 3/8″ arms
speed – 4.96 sec 40
agility – 4.44 sec short shuttle 7.65 sec 3-conei like him. he sounds like a project, but he can learn under one of the best.
April 27, 2018 at 11:10 pm #85467znModeratorA lot of good tweets here on the pick: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/tweets-4-27-including-noteboom-stuff/
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