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August 5, 2016 at 4:39 pm #50257znModerator
Ramzee
The day was very nice. The weather out there is great. Kind of overcast most of the day. The crowd was much larger today than on Tuesday and a lil more vocal.
The Rams started off camp doing warm ups and then cut to WR drills on one side with QB’s warming up in the end zone on one field and the OL and DL warming up on the other field. I think DB’s were doing press drills and the HB’s were blocking on the sidelines.
They cut to QB’s doing handoffs to the HB’s. Tavon was taking reps in that line. Then the WR’s took turn running routes. Basically the field is divided in half and two QB’s take either side with half of the WR’s. Then they run routes up and down the field. They did some stuff in the end zone, stuff in the middle of the field. They’d all take turn taking reps. It’s all rather quick.
Tavon is cutting on a dime on his routes. I can see sequences of pics where he is cutting right along the lines, textbook style. For a guy with his quickness and acceleration, he’s going to be deadly. They also have increased Tavon’s route tree. At least in practice. He’s running more routes down the field than I’m used to seeing him run. Deep outs, corners, stuff like that.
You can see on his cut right here how he is staying perfect with the line. Very sharp cuts in the pics I’m seeing. Good to see. He has been absolutely electric with the ball in his hands too. Tavon Awesome is exactly who you think he is but he has seemed to improved even.
Spruce seems to be catching everything his way. He’s a natural hands catcher as far as I can tell. Good ability to pluck the ball away from his body and tuck it in. Most of the WR’s looked good in the short route running drill.
Here is rookie #1 overall pick QB (#16) Jared Goff opening up on a throw during WR route running drills.
They went into 11 on 11’s after that. I’ll type up all of that in the next post.
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need to get running to fridays practice unfortunately. Full write up later.
Gist of the story is this… I’ll add pictures later and write more.
– Goff with 3 INT’s in 2 minute drill and a nice TD to finish up his run. The other QB’s didn’t struggle as badly but the defense certainly could have had several turnovers over the event for all of the QB’s. Mannion had a few picks too.
– Todd Gurley can score from just about anywhere. He’s dominant. The OL is opening up holes too.
– GRob looks good. Still has some inconsistency issues. Where one play he’s opening up a 50 yard hole for Gurley to run through and the next play he’s letting his guy blow up Gurley in the back field. More good than bad though for sure. GRob can dominant as he wants to be.
– Quinn seems back. He was blowing up passes and running plays.
– The rookie WR’s are an interesting battle. I like Duke Williams, Michael Thomas and Nelson Spruce. Cooper needs to get on the field and start competing. These other guys are already making names for themselves. Thomas standing out most specifically.
– Quick is your red zone target. Like it or not. He gets all the attention in the drills. They will rely on him there. He’s been producing too. Although Cody Sensabaugh got him on one jump ball but the ball could have been thrown a lil better. Quick’s technique is there. He’s using his body to shield defenders well. Attacking and high pointing the ball. Good awareness on his feet placement to get them in bounds. He’s effective. Hopefully he is who they wanted him to be now.
– Keenum is your most consistent QB performer right now. If I had to start a QB today, it’s him.
– Motion, we saw motion today.
– We also saw screen passes. Many.
– Higbee wasn’t doing much today but the other TE’s were. Harkey and Cunningham get a lot of targets and have been scoring too.
– Donald is a monster. Better than last year? I think so. AGAIN, they’ve been dropping him into zones a lot. Multiple times that day. He’s getting a lot of reps doing it and looks like he could make some noise there.
– Ethan Westbrooks makes plays. He has been known to penetrate the backfield from time to time.
– RT (#77) Isaiah Battle is a big guy. Very big. And nasty too. He’s making a lil noise at RT in the run game. Blew up Westbrooks on one play.
I’ll type up more later.
August 5, 2016 at 4:54 pm #50259znModeratorRamzee
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Tavon super pumped after catching a big gain on a deep out to the sideline. You can see him flexing. Coverage by (#24) Christian Bryant, who nearly tipped it.
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As I keep saying Tavon is electric with the ball in his hands. They will find ways to put the ball in his hands. As you can see from the pics above, they have him running down field routes now too. Not just bubble screens and reverses.
Quick has been getting a lot of end zone TD’s on jump balls and fades. Tru doesn’t seem to be going too hard out there right now in some drills so I’m sure things aren’t exactly as they would appear in a real game. In practice though Quick has been effective in the red zone.
The TE’s are getting a ton of targets in camp. Harkey looks like a receiving tight end out there. Cunningham is getting a lot of touches as well. Higbee stood out a bit on Tuesday and wasn’t thrown at much on Wednesday. He did go in motion though a bunch on Wednesday.
Britt has made a few highlight reel diving catches and has been effective on the sideline routes.
The depth has been getting the majority of the snaps at the WR position. Out of the bunch so far I like Michael Thomas and Duke Williams. Don’t sleep on Nelson either. He’s made a bunch of catches in camp when his reps come up. Williams seems a little raw but he’s big and has been effective in a lot of his reps. Thomas seems to be a nice hands catcher and do something with the ball in his hands.
August 6, 2016 at 9:29 am #50284znModeratorMerlin
8/5 camp report
Ok so got back late after a post-practice stop that was in truth a derailment at Hooters. Had a great time, so from the top I gotta give the Rams org props on setting up a really fine venue. Picked up some gear for the kids, looked around and wished there was a beer stand, but learned later in practice why there is no beer stand which I’ll cover in a moment.
First off watched the QBs doing all manner of basic drills. Handoffs, footwork, even making throws over the crossbar to each other I suppose to ensure the right arc is there I don’t know. Got bored though, and will only note what everyone knows, which is that Keenum has some athleticism to him, Goff is incredibly light on his feet, and Mannion is a bit plodding in comparison to them.
I was very relieved to see Cooper out there. Watched him quite a bit with all the other WRs as they did their drills and then as they moved into the scrimmage, and he looked smooth with good hands, just as advertised. I presume the time he missed set him back a bit, and he didn’t really stand out in a busting big plays kind of way or anything. But he is very bold in traffic and across the middle for a small dude, which is also not news to anyone here.
So right off the top what I saw was a defense that was bringin it. The offense made some plays that were impressive like Goff’s beautiful pass down the middle that was on point, and they won some in the redzone, but looking a bit deeper at things many of the passes would have had some “blown up” receivers. TJ made some hits today that he did not follow through on, where he was in position to lay dudes the F out and he was not the only one. The secondary closed fast and swarmed, and the front seven was in the offensive backfield a lot. I think Fish was real happy with how the defense looked.
Back to the offense the protections were breaking down a reasonable amount as the DL in particular were going hard. There were quite a few passes that would not have gotten out of the pocket without that red jersey on the QB. I watched GRob struggle a couple times on edge rush (still his greatest weakness) and also do well, and across the OL it was much the same and I thought very good back and forth competition between the units. This is going to sound ridiculous, too, but it seemed like Keenum got more heat than Goff, and have no idea whether it’s the line blocking being better when Goff was in there, the DL being afraid to hurt the #1 draft pick, or whatever. Goff did get swarmed quickly a couple times, like when he dropped to his knees it would have been a very fast sack in a live game so taking the sack and living to throw another day was a good decision by him vice forcing something. The dude who yelled that was probably the same one who yelled some other idiotic things, and our section was crackin jokes about how dudes like him are the reason why we can’t have an effin beer truck. {zn note: M is referring to a tweet where it was reported that Goff was struggling a bit so a member of the crowd yelled “bring in 17!”]
The receivers overall had a good day I thought. Thomas is just, well, as someone said the other day about him “he belongs.” Really the best way to put it. The dude straight stands out in that he’s very big, and is already playing fast in this system. His feet are really quick, which is something to see with a guy his size. And Quick, man. I gotta admit the dude is looking great, he’s like a different receiver from the one I’ve seen drop everything and run the wrong routes. Marquez goes 100% every single route and is showing good hands and body control, same exact thing with Spruce. Watched coach Groh doing the tennis ball routine with them midpoint and I continue to feel like this is an entirely different group of receivers now, where all of a sudden they all have solid to good hands. It’s weird man. I mean today Britt had a focus drop, but overall he’s movin and catching things and it just seems like an insane turnaround as an entire group so it will be interesting to see if it carries over to preseason games. I am REALLY looking forward to seeing that.
The TEs are similar to the above as well in that this group straight catches the ball now with good hands as a unit. Higbee is just downright ridiculous. The dude is huge, has a big catch radius, moves like a WR, and just makes whoever throws him the ball look great. Watched him in drills with Thompson throwing the ball I think it was, and he reels the catch in smoothly before having a couple DBs who due to his size get just as good as they gave on the hits. Kendricks looks so much more consistent too, but when you watch these guys live it’s just not even a comparison in terms of imagining who’s gonna add what to this passing game.
Run game had some good moments but it’s just too hard to tell whether the back would be down if they were playing for real. The D as I mentioned was bringin it, but it did seem like they’re aware they don’t want to be wrapping Gurley up and driving him to the ground like they would in a game. But still, the dude is so damn good he just makes it look easy. Aaron Green in both phases flashed and is really busting his butt to make this roster. Had a really nice run but the pass he caught was more impressive and like all the good catches I saw today had the crowd appreciation going.
So last but not least the QBs. Here’s where I differ from a lot of what I read tweet-wise. The sack and the moron yelling whatever he yelled don’t matter as I was very pleased overall with Goff’s play. He put up a couple “rookie” throws but also put that ball down the field in the face of the rush with calmness which is far more important and far more telling as to what to expect from him throughout the remainder of camp into preseason. Watching his snaps directly against Keenum’s snaps and it’s not like Goff is suffering by comparison to my eye. Keenum made some nice throws but most of his are short ranged and/or checkdowns, he’s really the same guy I saw get overwhelmed by the whiners late last year. He made one redzone throw on a full run to the right and across his body for a scary TD but it’s one I wouldn’t want to see him attempt again. Goff in the redzone is an assassin. Dude was droppin dimes on the corner route and across the middle for a TD (at least I think that one was from him to Higbee had a lady chatting with us that was a big distraction).
Tried to download it while I remember it still. Bottom line is this practice only served to boost my excitement about this offense. This team has some significant difference maker type players and we might be witnessing many elements finally coming together on the offensive side of the ball.
August 6, 2016 at 2:16 pm #50302znModeratorMerlin: 8/5 camp report
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We were discussing in our section how IF you were to take the numbers off the QBs and watch them the guy you would think is the rookie is Mannion. Goff is very measured and confident and in most of his snaps smooth with his decision making and of the three the only one who routinely makes the time to look downfield; if a nice pass goes mid to further range it’s usually Goff. The occasional INT would plague the others I think IF they were looking downfield and across the middle more often, because this defense is fast and knows what they are doing.
In yesterday’s practice there were probably 3x or so where I chuckled and said something along the lines of “welcome to the NFL rookie.” Other than that you just wouldn’t know he was a rook based on his demeanor. I think he is going to make the doubters look pretty silly, personally. And I think the team knows it too, not just the offense.
My guess is the kid will light Dallas up by the time they play that game. And he’ll probably make a mistake or two that will be trotted out there on social media but that’s ok. I just don’t see any way he’s not running this offense soon as the starter, whether it’s game 1 or game 3 or so.
If game 1 in SF was tomorrow Keenum would start, because he has the offense down and has all the confidence of the staff in managing it. But I do not see some big dropoff personally, where Goff looks lost or behind. What I see personally is a kid who seems to know the offense quite well for a rookie who has seen 5 camp practices, and who offers so much more upside that there is absolutely no reason to think he won’t be the best option a month from now.
IMO the reason most top 5 QBs start soon is because teams that pick early do not have holdover starters at QB of the quality required to give them a better chance to win. So inevitably those top 5 picks end up being the clear best chance to win for the team and they play. Looking at Goff, the kid seems confident and like he’s making daily strides. Keenum is a good guy and a solid backup type QB, but he is not Brett Favre. He is not a QB of the caliber required to hold Goff on the bench.
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Higbee — in the drills and scrimmage every time the ball comes his way he reels it in smooth, and he’s so big defenses are gonna have to tee off on him to make him feel hits. Of all the players yesterday outside of Gurley and Tavon he was the one that most impressed me.
August 6, 2016 at 2:28 pm #50304AgamemnonParticipantAugust 6, 2016 at 2:37 pm #50305znModeratorGood work with posting all the reports and stuff, zn.
Tx, to all. I will mention Isiah too, for his live camp reports.
It’s easy n fun, like the zine was back in the day.
Later I will post my own camp report. It includes things like this: “Is Coach Waufle more Nietzschean or Hegelian? Well if you watch him during drills…”
August 6, 2016 at 2:39 pm #50306PA RamParticipantGoff with 3 INT’s in 2 minute drill and a nice TD to finish up his run. The other QB’s didn’t struggle as badly but the defense certainly could have had several turnovers over the event for all of the QB’s. Mannion had a few picks too.
Shit–he’s a bust.
Oh well–go Case!!!!!!
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