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March 31, 2018 at 8:53 pm #84751znModerator
McVay Wants to see Continued Improvement from Goff in 2018
Myles Simmons
Goff showed improvement throughout the 2017 season, leading Los Angeles to an 11-4 record in the 15 games he started.
You’re likely aware of the stats: 3,804 yards passing, 28 touchdowns, just seven interceptions. Goff completed 62.1 percent of his passes, had a 100.5 passer rating, and finished leading the league with 12.9 yards per completion.
“I think the biggest thing is anytime that you’re talking about the quarterback position, really pleased with Jared’s progress and the way that he continued to improve throughout the course of the offseason,” head coach Sean McVay said at the league meetings in Orlando on Tuesday.
So what would McVay like to see next from the young quarterback as the offseason program gets going in mid-April?
“For him, it’s just about continuing to really become an extension of the coaching staff,” McVay said. “He’s very coachable. I think that was the one thing — very coachable and then a guy who wasn’t afraid to take accountability for maybe some of the things that didn’t go the way you wanted his rookie year. But I think that was instrumental in terms of his ability to improve.”
Even though former offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur and former quarterbacks coach Greg Olson have departed for Tennessee and Oakland, respectively, McVay is confident that prompted passing game coordinator Shane Waldron and QBs coach Zac Taylor can provide Goff with proper guidance.
“I think you have so much respect and appreciation that Matt and Greg both had, but you feel good about being able to move forward because you have people like Shane Waldron and Zac Taylor in place to be able to move up and take on some additional roles,” McVay said. “And they’ve already been really intentional about getting to know Jared better, making sure that he feels comfortable.”
That comfort factor is important so that the group of coaches knows how to put Goff in the best position to succeed.
“It’s his job to feel comfortable enough to be able to communicate, ‘Here’s the things I like, here’s the things I don’t,’” McVay said, noting that the coaches’ responsibility then becomes, “Let’s continue to figure out how we can accentuate and maximize your skills.
“I think to Jared’s credit, as we got more familiar with each other specifically in mine and his relationship — he was able to articulate that,” McVay continued. “Those are things that you feel really good about and he had a little more bounce in his step after last year.”
But even in the offseason when McVay is unable to work with Goff himself, he’s aware that the quarterback has taken steps to improve in 2018.
“He’s already worked with Tom House and those guys, figuring out ways he can get better,” McVay said. “He’s gotten with a lot of our receivers with Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, and you know working intentionally about trying to be better and hopefully trying to avoid those feelings that we had at the end of the year.”
March 31, 2018 at 10:14 pm #84754InvaderRamModeratorJared Goff was NFL's 11th-best deep passer in 2017, according to this metric
Jared Goff was NFL’s 11th-best deep passer in 2017, according to this metric
By: Cameron DaSilva | March 30, 2018 2:33 pm ET
Jared Goff took a huge step in the right direction last season after an utterly horrendous rookie campaign. To be fair, his struggles in 2016 weren’t entirely his fault, but there were some already (and unfairly) calling him a bust.
He silenced those doubters last season by racking up 3,804 yards, 28 touchdown passes and seven interceptions. He completed 62.1 percent of his passes with a rating of 100.5, earning his first trip to the Pro Bowl.
One of the knocks on his game, however, was his deep-ball passing. He seemed to struggle on throws deep downfield, which partially contributed to Sammy Watkins’ underwhelming numbers. Goff may not have been as bad as some want to believe, though.
According to Next Gen Stats, he ranked 11th in the NFL in that department. The metric was a composite score of each quarterback’s ranking in passer rating, completion rate, percentage of yards on deep passes and touchdown rate.
Jared Goff narrowly missed the list, finishing 11th among qualifying quarterbacks. The second-year pro boasted a 95.8 passer rating and 35.4 percent completion rate on deep throws, but threw just three touchdown passes of this sort.
Alex Smith led the NFL with a score of five, ranking first in passer rating, completion rate and percentage of yards on deep passes. He was also second in touchdown rate.
Russell Wilson was the only other NFC West quarterback in the top 11, finishing fifth. He ranked third in yards accumulated on deep passes, which illustrates just how frequently he took shots downfield and connected.
It’s not the best metric out there, but it does combine a number of important statistics to find the best in that department.
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April 1, 2018 at 12:05 pm #84761znModeratorTop 10 QB prospects of past 3 NFL draft classes: Darnold No. 1
Daniel Jeremiah
Editor’s note: Jeremiah’s look at how this year’s group of quarterback prospects stacks up against the top QB talents that have entered the league in the previous two drafts.
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I always believe it’s helpful during the evaluation process to rank the current group of prospects among the players at the position from the previous two drafts. I recently looked up the grades I gave to the quarterbacks in the ’16 and ’17 draft classes and I slotted them in with this year’s crop of talent. Here’s the order I have them in based on their draft grade.
1) Sam Darnold, USC
Draft class: 2018
The skinny: I had very similar draft grades on each of the top four players on this list. However, I gave Darnold a slightly higher grade than Carson Wentz because of his durability and level of competition from college.2) Carson Wentz, North Dakota State
Draft class: 2016; second overall pick, Philadelphia Eagles
The skinny: Wentz had an ideal skill set coming out of NDSU. His ability to drive the ball accurately and create with his legs made him a special prospect.3) Josh Rosen, UCLA
Draft class: 2018
The skinny: Rosen is the best pure passer in this time frame (2016-2018). His motion, footwork and arm talent are off the charts.4) Jared Goff, Cal
Draft class: 2016; first overall pick, Los Angeles Rams
The skinny: Goff was very smooth and accurate at Cal. He was an effortless thrower and you’ve seen that carry over to the NFL.5) Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma
Draft class: 2018
The skinny: Mayfield is the shortest member of this group (measured in at 6-foot 5/8 and 215 pounds at the NFL Scouting Combine), but I gave him a strong grade based on his touch, playmaking ability and toughness.6) Josh Allen, Wyoming
Draft class: 2018
The skinny: Allen was an inconsistent performer at Wyoming, but his good moments are incredibly impressive. He is very capable of outplaying my draft grade.7) Deshaun Watson, Clemson
Draft class: 2017; 12th overall pick, Houston Texans
The skinny: I had Watson as my highest-rated quarterback in last year’s class, but based on early returns, I was way too low with my grade. I had concerns with his accuracy and decision making, but he cleaned up both areas last fall. He was off to a remarkable start as a rookie before suffering an ACL tear in November.8) Mitchell Trubisky, North Carolina
Draft class: 2017; second overall pick, Chicago Bears
The skinny: I loved Trubisky’s talent, but he had a very small sample size of production. He was a full-time starter for only one year at UNC, but his upside was tremendous.9) DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
Draft class: 2017; 52nd overall pick (Round 2), Cleveland Browns
The skinny: I had a big grade on Kizer heading into his final year at Notre Dame, but he struggled mightily to maintain that level of play. I ended up dropping his grade prior to the 2017 draft and he landed in a really tough spot in Cleveland. He was rushed into action before he was ready to play, and the results weren’t pretty. Now, he’s getting a fresh start after being traded to the Green Bay Packers earlier this month.10) Paxton Lynch, Memphis
Draft class: 2016; 26th overall pick, Denver Broncos
The skinny: Lynch was a polarizing player coming out of Memphis. His size, arm talent and athleticism were enticing, but I had concerns about the adjustment he would have to make from his college offense to an NFL system.April 21, 2018 at 6:45 pm #85309znModeratorOne of Jared Goff’s best assets coming out of Cal was his ability to hit on deep passes. He completed 43.8 percent of those throws with the Golden Bears and showed he had the arm strength and accuracy to consistently hook up with receivers deep downfield.
That trend didn’t continue as a rookie, but this past season, we saw flashes of the Cal version of Goff. According to Pro Football Focus, he had an adjusted completion percentage of 42.1 on deep passes, which ranked ninth in the NFL.
Additionally, he had the 11th-best deep-ball passer rating (99.5) and amassed 767 yards on such passes, which also ranked 11th in football.
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April 24, 2018 at 12:46 am #85355znModeratorJared Goff 2016 trade offers case study in moving up in draft for QB
Rich Hammond
If there are any NFL teams out there tempted to move up in Thursday’s draft to grab one of the top quarterbacks, they might want to consider what that will cost.
The Rams have some expertise in this area. On April 14, 2016, they sent a pile of draft picks to the Tennessee Titans for the right to select first in that month’s draft, then used that pick on former Marin Catholic High quarterback Jared Goff.
The Rams and Titans seem destined to be linked together forever. They met in the Super Bowl 18 years ago. They both fired Jeff Fisher. And two years ago, they partnered in a massive trade.
Both teams missed the playoffs in 2016 but qualified last season, and the Rams beat the Titans in a late-season game in Nashville. Goff made the Pro Bowl last season and the Titans used the Rams’ picks to build an impressive pool of young talent on offense and defense.
The trade is now complete, with no more outstanding draft picks on the table. So who won? Here’s an in-depth look at the trade and how it impacted the rosters of both teams:
THE TRADE
The Rams sent a 2016 first-round pick (No. 15 overall), two 2016 second-round picks (Nos. 43 and 45), a 2016 third-round pick (No. 76), a 2017 first-round pick (which ended up being No. 5) and a 2017 compensatory third-round pick (which ended up being No. 100) to the Tennessee Titans for a 2016 first-round pick (No. 1 overall), a 2016 fourth-round pick (No. 113) and a 2016 sixth-round pick (No. 177)
TRADES WITHIN THE TRADE
– The Rams later flipped the Titans’ 2016 fourth-round pick (No. 113) to the Chicago Bears for a 2016 fourth-round pick (No. 117) and a 2016 sixth-round pick (No. 206)
– The Titans later flipped the Rams’ 2016 first-round pick (No. 15) and the Rams’ 2016 third-round pick (No. 76) to the Cleveland Browns for a 2016 first-round pick (No. 8) and a 2016 sixth-round pick (No. 176)
– The Titans later flipped the Browns’ 2016 sixth-round pick (No. 176) and a 2017 sixth-round pick to the Denver Broncos for a 2016 fifth-round pick (No. 157) and a 2016 seventh-round pick (No. 253)
WHO THE RAMS GOT
– Jared Goff, quarterback, Cal (2016 first round, No. 1 overall): Goff took over as the starter midway through the 2016 season and struggled with a poor offensive line and poor receivers, but took a major step forward in 2017 when he passed for 3,804 yards and 28 touchdowns and made the Pro Bowl, initially as an alternate.
– Pharoh Cooper, receiver, South Carolina (2016 fourth round, No. 117): Another slow start, Cooper contributed a bit on special teams as a rookie but thrived last season as a punt returner after Tavon Austin had fumbling issues. Cooper also had a 103-yard kickoff return for a touchdown and made the Pro Bowl as a return specialist.
– Temarrick Hemingway, tight end, South Carolina St. (2016 sixth round, No. 177): Hemingway appeared in eight games as a rookie, mostly on special teams, and didn’t have a catch. He broke his leg in the 2017 preseason and didn’t return, and now is third on the tight-end depth chart.
– Mike Thomas, receiver, Southern Miss (2016 sixth round, No. 206): After a solid showing in the Rams’ offseason program, Thomas was hit with a four-game suspension for a violation of the league’s substance policy. Thomas has played in 23 games in two seasons and has mostly been limited to special-teams duties.
WHO THE TITANS GOT
– Corey Davis, receiver, Western Michigan (2017 first round, No. 5 overall): Davis dealt with a nagging hamstring injury during his rookie season and had only 34 catches in 11 games (nine starts) but then broke through two two touchdown catches in the Titans’ playoff loss to New England.
– Jack Conklin, offensive lineman, Michigan St. (2016 first round, No. 8): To date, Conklin might be considered the jewel of the trade for the Titans. He was an All-Pro selection as a rookie right tackle and has started all 32 games, but he tore his ACL during the playoffs.
– Austin Johnson, defensive lineman, Penn St. (2016 second round, No. 43): This could be a player on the rise. Johnson, a nose tackle, started three games at the end of the 2017 regular season and, overall, has totaled 38 tackles and 1.5 sacks in 26 games.
– Derrick Henry, running back, Alabama (2016 second round, No. 45): Here’s the one to watch in 2018. Henry, the 2015 Heisman Trophy Winner, now is set to take over as the Titans’ primary back, after their release of DeMarco Murray. Henry has played in 31 games in two seasons (with four starts) and has totaled 1,234 yards and 10 touchdowns.
– Jonnu Smith, tight end, Florida International (2017 third round, No. 100): Smith immediately became a starter but didn’t have a high impact as a rookie, at least not in a statistical sense, as he totaled 157 receiving yards and two touchdowns in 16 games (13 starts).
– LeShaun Sims, cornerback, Southern Utah (2016 fifth round, No. 157): A part-time starter in his first two seasons, Sims has dealt with some injuries and has one interception in 26 games.
– Kalan Reed, cornerback, Southern Miss (2016 seventh round, No. 253): The Titans cut Reed at the end of their 2016 training camp, then signed him to the practice squad. Reed since has bounced back and forth, and played in seven regular-season games.
TRADE ANALYSIS
Who won? There’s no clear answer, and it might come down to a debate of quality vs. quantity. The Rams got Goff, but the Titans got four starters (Henry, Davis, Smith and Conklin).
The Rams won’t regret what they did. It’s difficult to find a young, franchise quarterback, and after an uneven rookie season, Goff now appears to have the skills to keep the Rams in playoff contention for years to come. Plus, his relatively low rookie contract gave the Rams flexibility to add other players.
It’s fair, at this point, to give the Titans a grade of “incomplete.” If Davis and Conklin return to health and productivity in 2018 and if Henry thrives as a lead running back, this trade will look quite good for Tennessee. But that’s quite a bit of “if.”
Given the fact that the Rams already got two Pro Bowlers out of the deal, and won their division sooner than the Titans, the Rams probably deserve the edge. A year ago, most everyone would have said the Titans “won” the trade. A year from now? The debate likely will continue for some time.
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