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August 28, 2014 at 4:34 pm #5398MackeyserModerator
You KNOW I had to jump in here…
http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/11425377/nfl-implements-domestic-violence-penalties
Basically, its’ an auto 6 games on the first incident and A LIFETIME BAN on the second incident. What’s even more impressive and more noteworthy is that there are escalators for that first incident, such as:
an employee (YES, this means ALL NFL employees) was involved in a prior incident before joining the NFL; violence involving a weapon; choking, repeated striking, or when the act is committed against a pregnant woman; or in the presence of a child.
– Prior acts. So, this WILL affect this upcoming college draft. Think Jameis Winston, who’s had his domestic violence at FSU covered up.
– Act involved a weapon. That’s pretty straight forward.
– Choking. LOTS of guys have choked women and had nothing come of it. With the potential of an 8 game suspension and teams knowing that, these guys become seriously devalued.
– Repeated striking. It’s one thing to say “there’s a line. You just never hit a woman.” It’s another when the abuse beats the crap out of her. I would imagine that a “beating” would escalate substantially, perhaps to a year, even, on the first offense. Let’s just say that you DO NOT want to be the guy to test Goodell on this.
– Pregnant woman. Few things jump up as wrong as the idea of striking a pregnant woman. I imagine the escalators will be as severe for this as for repeated striking, if not more so.
– Presence of child(ren). This brings up violence not only on the person being struck but the collateral damage of the children forced to see that as well. Again, I imagine this will be dealt with most harshly.I am very glad that Roger Goodell has changed courses on this. I have been about the harshest critic you could find on Goodell on just about everything, but this is the right thing to do going forward.
As for players and NFL employees, this will forever after be known as the Ray Rice rule and he’ll be known as a domestic abuser and someone who “got away with it”. If a player violates the rule and is suspended or banned, they will be “Ray Riced” or “Riced”. That is his legacy now.
I really hope it changes behavior, because… humans should love one another and dammit, this shouldn’t even be a story.
On a completely separate note: I DO know for certain that it DRAMATICALLY changed the 2015 NFL draft. All those red flag guys teams might want to take a flyer on? Well, you don’t take draft flyers on guys facing possible 6-8+ game suspensions because they’ve got domestic violence stuff in their past. All of THOSE guys just dropped.
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
August 28, 2014 at 4:51 pm #5400rflParticipantA good development.
You know, this could make something of a difference. For all the macho idiots out there, the NFL is Valhalla. The whole football culture that demeans women finds its ultimate expression in the league. The fact that football players can get away with all of this helps guys rationalize.
With this, as you say Mac, there may begin to be some degree of consequences for morons like Winston. It could make something of a difference … decrease the immunity level a bit, start to challenge the assumption that hitting women is OK.
I know, I know. Maybe just a little bit?
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August 29, 2014 at 1:05 am #5439MackeyserModeratorWell, there’s that.
Plus, as I mentioned, it can’t help but affect the draft. This is now a BIGGER deal than PEDs because if someone’s got a “prior”, that means they are looking at a 6+ game suspension on a first offense. And you really don’t want to be that first guy. But you’re looking at a grocery store type tally.
“Let’s see… we’ve got domestic abuse? Six games. Oh, see you did this before in college and are in the anger management program. That’s another 2 games. You choked her? oooh, that’s another 2 games. She was pregnant? What’s the matter with you? That’s another 2 games. Your total from this ONE incident is TWELVE games. You can pay the cashier on the way out.”
Teams shied heavily away from PED users until later rounds if they knew they were going to have to enter the NFL substance abuse program and face potentially augmented sentencing on their first NFL offense. So much the worse for players who’ve committed domestic battery (and rightly so).
The point is that teams are going to really dig into guys, some of them really high profile to want to know the truth. One of them is the potential #1 guy in the draft, Jameis Winston. He’s had a domestic battery allegation that he abused a freshman following him around that FSU’s been working hard to both “investigate” and obfuscate so that he can keep winning ball games. For years, that sort of thing would just go away. Not now. Teams are going to want to know the truth, especially in light of the 27 OTHER knuckleheaded things he’s done including running out on checks and stealing.
Every draft has an “issue” of one kind or another. Sometimes it’s a position, other times it’s a person, other times it’s a school sending half of its team to the NFL, sometimes it’s scheme and does it translate to the NFL (latest was read option)… This time it’s going to be domestic violence. We’re going to see lots of guys with pure football grades going WAAAY later and Mike Mayock is going to have to say that “the kid should be going earlier but he shouldn’t have put his hands on a woman and it’s costing him big right now.”
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
August 29, 2014 at 1:18 pm #5466rflParticipantMac, Winston is a truly great football player.
But even before I heard about the abuse scandal, I really took a strong dislike to the guy. His whole smiley persona struck me from the first as bogus.
He’s one of those knuckleheads with great ability that you hope someone else will take on.
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