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December 14, 2015 at 6:40 pm #35641AgamemnonParticipant
Chip Kelly’s Trade For Sam Bradford Is Paying Off
December 14, 2015 1:02 PM By Andrew Porterhttp://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/12/14/chip-kelly-sam-bradford-3/
PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — On March 10th, 2015 — approximately two short months after he received complete personnel control — Philadelphia Eagles head coach Chip Kelly controversially sent Nick Foles, a fourth-round pick, and a 2016 second-round pick to the St. Louis Rams for Sam Bradford and a fifth-rounder.
Bradford, the former No. 1 overall pick and Heisman Trophy winner at Oklahoma, had played in just seven total games in 2013 and 2014 after back-to-back ACL tears. Kelly knew a potential turnaround in Philly, for the now 28-year-old QB, would take some time. He also knew that Bradford’s talent would eventually pay off.
“I think it happens with any quarterback,” Kelly told the 94WIP Morning Show on Monday. “This isn’t an easy game where you can go out there and give me a couple reps, let me toss the ball around and then I’m gonna go in and play like an All-Pro quarterback. I think we knew the talent that Sam had, but it takes anybody time to get acclimated. You look at who are the best quarterbacks in the league and look how long they’ve played in their system.
“Aaron Rodgers has got 10 years in, Tom Brady’s got almost 15 years in,” Kelly continued. “Drew Brees, you know look at guys that are playing really well. Andy Dalton is playing really well now for Cincinnati, but he’s in year five. Especially with that position, it takes time.”
So what about Foles, who was 14-4 under Kelly?
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“But we also know you can take all the time you want,” Kelly said, “But if the guy doesn’t have the requisite talent then time is not gonna be an answer.”While Kelly may have understood the patience required with Bradford, Eagles fans did not — especially after his 10-10, 121 yard, three touchdown preseason performance at Lambeau Field.
After his first seven regular season games in Kelly’s offense, Bradford struggled, throwing nine touchdowns to 10 interceptions. More importantly, his team was just 3-4. Then on Novemver 15th, one week after an impressive walk off overtime win in Dallas to get back to .500, Bradford injured his shoulder in the third quarter of an eventual crushing one-point loss to the Miami Dolphins.
Bradford would miss the next two games and the Eagles would go on to lose both contests by an embarrassing combined score of 90-31 with Mark Sanchez at the helm. The Eagles dropped to 4-7 and “fire Chip Kelly” became a popular opinion among talking heads and Twitter timelines in Philadelphia.
In Week 13 — in a near-impossible situation on the road against the New England Patriots — Bradford made his return, throwing two touchdowns and no interceptions in a shocking 35-28 Eagles upset on December 6th. On Sunday, back at Lincoln Financial Field, Bradford — despite plenty of dropped passes by a receiving corps that has led the league in that notorious department — had one of his most accurate games as an Eagle leading his team to a 23-20 win over the Bills.
All of the sudden, in a suspect NFC East, the 6-7 Eagles control their own destiny when it comes to a division championship.
“We’ve seen him grow on a weekly basis,” Kelly said of his quarterback. “I’ve seen him get better. I think he’s done a really good job at protecting the football. Yeah, I thought he threw the ball outstanding yesterday — we’ve gotta catch it better. But I thought Sam did a great job. He scrambled for a couple — he’s not a guy that we’re gonna have designed quarterback runs for, but he kept a couple — we had a roll out, no one was open. He got forward and got positive yards for us. I think he’s getting better and better each week, which is a positive as we’re in the month of December right now.”
With three crucial regular season games remaining in his first season in Philly, Bradford has transformed from an injury-riddled question mark into the leader of the Eagles’ offense.
In fact, the Eagles are 6-2 in Bradford’s last eight games. Over his last four starts (3-1), Bradford has completed 80 of 123 passes (65.0-percent), for 898 yards, five touchdowns, and one controversial interception, compiling a 96.9 rating.
“I think more than anything, as opposed to changing anything on the field, I think the past couple weeks I have just tried to provide leadership to this group,” Bradford told reporters after beating the Bills. “I don’t think you can let what’s happened in the past affect the way you prepare for a game or alter your style.”
“I think everyone looks to him as a leader,” tight end Zach Ertz said on Sunday. “The past couple of games, he kind of stepped up before the game and delivered an unbelievable message to us. I think he was getting there earlier in the year and now he has kind of established himself as a leader. The value of him to this team is second to none.”
Even the skeptical fans are coming around too, as about 80-percent voted Monday on the 94WIP Mike & Ike Show Radio.com Poll question, that they want Bradford back for at least next season. Kelly does too.
“We’ve always wanted Sam here,” Kelly said. “We wouldn’t have traded for him if we thought he was going to be here for a year.”
Bradford is still hoping this season goes well into January, and maybe even miraculously, February.
As for Foles? He was benched in St. Louis for Case Keenum after eight games. The Rams are 5-8 and Foles’ numbers — 56.4 completion percentage, 2,052 yards, 7 TDs, 10 INTs, 69.0 QB rating — are far from imposing.
Kelly says Foles doesn’t have the talent.. I don’t know if Kelly is right, but I do think he is biased.
December 14, 2015 at 7:02 pm #35642nittany ramModeratorKelly says Foles doesn’t have the talent.. I don’t know if Kelly is right, but I do think he is biased.
Kelly’s talking about having enough talent for his offense though, right?
Well, I think we all knew that Foles wasn’t as talented as Bradford. From a strictly ‘talent’ standpoint, there aren’t many better than Bradford.
What we thought the Rams were getting was a tough QB who could manage a ball control offense and take shots down the field with play action. And do it without gobbling up as much cap space as Bradford did.
But I think everyone knew that Bradford was more talented. That was a given.
December 14, 2015 at 7:14 pm #35643AgamemnonParticipantKelly says Foles doesn’t have the talent.. I don’t know if Kelly is right, but I do think he is biased.
Kelly’s talking about having enough talent for his offense though, right?
Well, I think we all knew that Foles wasn’t as talented as Bradford. From a strictly ‘talent’ standpoint, there aren’t many better than Bradford.
What we thought the Rams were getting was a tough QB who could manage a ball control offense and take shots down the field with play action. And do it without gobbling up as much cap space as Bradford did.
But I think everyone knew that Bradford was more talented. That was a given.
Yeah, I think he might mean that Foles doesn’t have enough talent to be his No. 1 QB.
December 14, 2015 at 7:18 pm #35644znModeratorYeah, I think he might mean that Foles doesn’t have enough talent to be his No. 1 QB.
Or the right KIND of talent, eg. a quick release.
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December 15, 2015 at 4:12 pm #35681znModeratorSam Bradford following Carson Palmer’s NFL path
PHILADELPHIA — He won the Heisman Trophy. He was the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft. He tore his anterior cruciate ligament twice.
He could be either Sam Bradford or Carson Palmer, the two men who will start at quarterback Sunday when the Philadelphia Eagles host the Arizona Cardinals.
Palmer, 35, won the Heisman for USC in 2002 and was the first pick in the 2003 NFL draft.
Bradford, 28, won the Heisman as a sophomore at Oklahoma in 2008 and was the first pick in the 2010 NFL draft.
After six years with the Cincinnati Bengals, Palmer asked to be traded. When the Bengals declined, Palmer said he would retire. He held out until the middle of the 2011 season, when the Bengals agreed to trade him to the Oakland Raiders.
After five years with the St. Louis Rams, Bradford was traded to the Eagles.
There is a lesson in here about time, and its role in allowing NFL quarterbacks to reach their full potential.
Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger. Palmer is a little bit different. Since he got to Arizona in 2013, his record as a starter is 27-8 with a passer rating of 94.4. It didn’t take him years in coach Bruce Arians’ offense.
But Palmer still put in the years.
“He’s played a ton of football,” Kelly said. “The wealth of experience that Carson brings to Bruce’s offense is kind of unparalleled. He’s the guy that’s pushing the whole offensive system right now.”
Palmer will turn 36 later this month. He has never won a playoff game. During eight seasons in Cincinnati and Oakland, his record as a starter was 54-67. The best years of his career have been in Arizona, after he turned 33 years old.
Kelly has previously compared trading for Bradford to the New Orleans Saints’ signing of Drew Brees. The former San Diego Chargers quarterback was available only because of an injury to his throwing shoulder. The Saints took a chance on Brees, who has gone 92-63 and won a Super Bowl.
Bradford’s resume looks more like Palmer’s. The challenge for Kelly and the Eagles is to make sure that Bradford can accelerate the second part of his career. That means staying in Philadelphia and growing in Kelly’s offense, not moving on to a third team.
That is Kelly’s plan.
“We’ve always wanted Sam here,” Kelly said. “We wouldn’t have traded for him if we thought he was going to be here for a year.”
Bradford has exactly three games (plus playoffs, if there are any) remaining on his contract. The Eagles and Bradford’s agent discussed a contract extension, but those talks ended at the start of the regular season.
Bradford went 4-4 as the Eagles’ starter in the first half of this season. He was leading in the Eagles’ Nov. 15 game against Miami when he was knocked out of the game with a concussion and separated left shoulder. The Eagles lost that game, as well as their next two with Mark Sanchez as their quarterback.
Bradford returned for the game against New England. He won his two starts since returning from the injury. Before each game, he addressed his teammates.
“I’ve seen Sam gain more confidence as the season’s gone along here,” Kelly said. “I think that’s just a natural maturation process.”
That takes time. The big question is how much time Bradford will have in Philadelphia.
December 15, 2015 at 6:05 pm #35685wvParticipantEnh. He’s already been injured once with the Eagles.
I really dont think Sam is a guy I would give
a massive long-term contract to.w
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