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  • #28401
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    Eagles QB Sam Bradford wows teammates in practice
    August 8, 2015, 8:00 am
    http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/eagles-qb-sam-bradford-wows-teammates-practice?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo

    Sam Bradford, who is coming off two ACL tears in a span of 10 months, has impressed his Eagles teammates and coaches so far during training camp. (USA Today Images)

    The Eagles’ quarterback competition might be open, as coach Chip Kelly has insisted, but Sam Bradford may be slamming the door closed on Mark Sanchez.

    Bradford appeared in total command of the huddle during Friday’s training camp practice at the NovaCare Complex, making sharp throws and dazzling teammates while Sanchez, his only competitor for the starting job, endured ups and downs (see 10 observations).

    Bradford, who’s coming back from two ACL tears in a 10-month span and wasn’t medically cleared for full practice until the start of training camp, shined in the 7-on-7s, team drills and was the only quarterback to lead the offense to paydirt in the hurry-up drill near the end of practice.

    “He was throwing lots of touchdowns today,” right tackle Lane Johnson said. “He’s very accurate. I haven’t seen accuracy like that from a quarterback in a long time.”

    Bradford, who’s shown as-advertised accuracy throughout camp, came out firing, starting with the first set of 7s. He arced a pretty fade over rookie cornerback Eric Rowe into the hands of Riley Cooper down the left side and then rifled his next pass in the end zone to tight end Trey Burton.

    He connected with Burton again during a red-zone 11-on-11 drill for another touchdown and found Seyi Ajirotutu in the left corner of the end zone for another.

    “In OTAs he had to stand back a lot,” Johnson added. “Now he’s getting out here and getting his confidence in. He looked sharp today. Just accurate with the football. Hs arm is super strong. He makes quick decisions. I think he’s getting a lot of his confidence back.”

    Near the end of practice, the Eagles conducted a hurry-up drill with Bradford leading the first team, Sanchez with the second and Matt Barkley with the third. The drill simulated real-game action.

    With the ball near midfield and 63 seconds on the clock, Bradford converted a 3rd-and-4 by finding Darren Sproles over the middle before spiking the ball to stop the clock with 10 seconds left.

    On the next snap, a busted coverage resulted in Brent Celek wandering down the right sideline with nobody from the defense within five yards. Bradford quickly spiraled the ball to the veteran tight end for the easy touchdown.

    “He’s a leader,” Celek said. “Obviously we all know he’s a great quarterback. He’s got all the skills. I think his calmness about him, he’s going to be a great player, of course.”

    The preseason opener is more than one week away and Kelly has insisted that Sanchez has every opportunity to win the job if he’s better than Bradford, whom Kelly gave up Nick Foles and a second-round pick to get.

    It couldn’t have helped Sanchez’s cause that he forced a pass into double coverage and had the ball picked by Jaylen Watkins on the second offense’s first play in the hurry-up.

    Bradford also showed more emotion after his touchdowns as he’s starting to carry himself like the franchise quarterback he’s hoping to become under Kelly.

    Quiet by nature, Bradford’s personality hadn’t come out during the spring camps, when he took only a smattering of first-team reps in the final three-day minicamp after watching most of the OTAs from the sidelines.

    “It’s changed,” Johnson said. “It’s definitely changed. He was just trying to learn the ropes back then. He wasn’t as vocal. Even in the huddle he’s a lot more vocal. You can just see it in his eye.”

    Teammates have raved about Bradford’s accuracy and strong arm, two strengths that helped him win the Heisman as a junior at Oklahoma and become the No. 1 overall pick by the Rams in 2010.

    Injuries derailed his career in St. Louis, but for all the talk about his accuracy and arm, Bradford has won just 18 of his 49 career starts and has completed just 58.6 percent of his passes.

    Eagles offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur, who was Bradford’s first offensive coordinator in St. Louis, suggested that Bradford’s statistics are a byproduct of an inadequate supporting cast.

    “It takes two to tango when we’re talking about completion percentages,” Shumur said. “We do know he’s a very accurate passer, and in the progressions that we’re running he’s displayed an ability to throw the ball accurately and on time for us.”

    Although the Rams were 3-4 in 2013 when Bradford tore his left ACL, Bradford’s numbers weren’t bad. He was completing a career-best 60.7 percent of his throws and had 14 touchdowns to just four interceptions, putting him on pace for the most touchdowns and highest completion percentage of his career.

    But another ligament tear in the same knee last August in a preseason game led to another lost season and the Rams decided to trade him to the Eagles instead of carrying his $12.95 million cap figure in the final year of his deal.

    “I think experience makes us all better,” Shurmur said. “It’s not always pretty. There are times when you’ve got to experience, I like to think, sometimes when you have some things go wrong it ends up being sort of a blessing because you learn from them.

    “I think just in the time that we’ve been together here in Philadelphia, I think he’s gotten his body and his knee right, and you can see he’s executing out here at a high level.”

    Agamemnon

    #28511
    PA Ram
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    Sam Bradford again

    Not only is Bradford practicing every day, he’s starting to impress. Reporters at Eagles camp are talking up Bradford’s accuracy and arm strength. He has taken every snap possible at camp and NJ.com wrote that you can’t even tell that Bradford is coming off an injury. He needs to stay healthy, but Bradford has given the Eagles a shot of optimism with a strong start to camp following some concerns during OTA season.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000508506/article/winners-and-losers-from-second-week-of-camp

    I’ve been reading some camp reports for the Eagles and they seem very impressed with his accuracy. Someone posted a Vine of him dropping the ball into receiver’s hands.

    This is not news to Rams fans. We know he’s accurate. That wasn’t the question. It’s all about his health.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #28512
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    You mind if I merge this with a recent, previous “Bradford in Phil” thread?

    #28516
    PA Ram
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    No go ahead. I’ll silently resent you forever but go ahead. It’s a small price to pay.

    just kidding. Move it.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #29146
    NERam
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    I’m all for being competitive, but if intentional, this ain’t cool…

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bradford-murray-look-sharp-in-eagles-40-17-win-over-ravens/ar-BBm0QAa

    Bradford survived a late hit by Terrell Suggs, who lowered his helmet and tackled his knees for a roughing penalty. Bradford also took a hard shot from Brandon Williams and appeared shaken up, but stayed in to complete the drive.

    #29155
    PA Ram
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    I thought it was a cheap shot.

    Mentally, it may prove good for Sam–knowing that he got up and was okay.

    But it was dirty.

    I thought Sam wasn’t quite comfortable in that offense yet. He also may have been nervous. We’ll find out this year whether Bradford can really be the QB we hoped he would be because if you can’t do it in that Eagles offense….you ain’t got it.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #29156
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    I thought it was a cheap shot.

    Mentally, it may prove good for Sam–knowing that he got up and was okay.

    But it was dirty.

    I thought Sam wasn’t quite comfortable in that offense yet. He also may have been nervous. We’ll find out this year whether Bradford can really be the QB we hoped he would be because if you can’t do it in that Eagles offense….you ain’t got it.

    I think he was adrenalated. We’ve seen that before…amped up early with the passes sailing high.

    That was a cheap shot, IMO…Rams have, starting in 2012, played at least 12 1/2 games against read-option qbs (Wilson, Kap, RG3), and not once have we seen a Rams defender launch at a knee.

    #29570
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    #29572
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    That is the best that Bradford has ever looked. imo Good for him.

    Agamemnon

    #29605
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    Eagles quarterback Sam Bradford is ready

    http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/08/eagles_quarterback_sam_bradford_is_ready_instant_a.html

    Sam Bradford is ready. Maybe too ready if there is such a thing. Because it’s hard to imagine the Eagles quarterback being better than he was Saturday night.

    Bradford threw a perfect game Saturday in his one quarter of play against the Green Bay Packers in the team’s third preseason game.

    With the Packers’ Aaron Rodgers taking the night off, Bradford did his best MVP impersonation. In his second game of the preseason and second game as an Eagle, Bradford completed all 10 passes he attempted for 121 yards and three touchdowns.

    When Bradford left the field at the end of the first quarter, his team led 25-0.

    Of his 10 completions, Bradford used six different receivers, including two running backs, two tight ends and two wide receivers.

    Take your pick on what Bradford’s best pass was:

    His first touchdown, an 8-yarder, on a wheel route to running back Darren Sproles who was mismatched against inside linebacker Sam Barrington.

    His first pass of his second drive, a 27-yard completion to wide receiver Jordan Matthews, his longest actual throw of the night on a perfectly thrown ball.

    His second touchdown pass, a 3-yarder to tight end Trey Burton, in which he went to his second option on the play and withstood a blitz and good hit from safety Micah Hyde.

    Or on his final touchdown drive, consecutive passes of 33 yards to Sproles and 17 yards to Matthews.

    In two games, and it’s doubtful Bradford will play Thursday’s preseason final against the Jets, Bradford played four series and the Eagles scored four touchdowns. He took a total of 30 snaps, which is less than you would like, but when you score every time you can live with it.

    Four drives, four touchdowns, that’s a pretty good percentage. So is a quarterback rating of 156.7.

    The quarterback who drew fear and worry from the time he was acquired from the Rams for Foles and a 2016 second-round pick and was coming off two torn ACLs, is ready. The regular season starts, Sept. 14 in Atlanta.

    ..

    #29609
    PA Ram
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    I watched the Eagles game and Bradford was very impressive. He even stood in and took another hit–and got up.

    I really don’t believe it is an exaggeration to suggest that IF he stays healthy he will put up MVP type numbers this year.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #29610
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    I watched the Eagles game and Bradford was very impressive. He even stood in and took another hit–and got up.

    I really don’t believe it is an exaggeration to suggest that IF he stays healthy he will put up MVP type numbers this year.

    I actually have more faith in him staying healthy than most, I think. I just think the 2 knee things were freak non-contact injuries (technically there was contact in each case but the contact wasn’t the issue, it was trying to right his balance with an awkward angle and the leg bending wrong. 70% of knee injuries are non-contact. That was true of J.Long and Palmer too.)

    And I always expected him to play well. Unlike some, I thought he already showed it with the Rams (in those games from 2012-13 where they had BOTH a healthy OL and a running threat). Though of course the Eagles are loaded on offense while the Rams never were, so he will show it more than he did in St. Louis. But IMO it was there.

    HOWEVER, that doesn’t mean I dislike the trade. I fully get the trade. Regardless what I personally think of the injury issues, the Rams were in a position to calculate risks. They could not keep him because the odds do not look good. Phil was in a much better position to risk those odds.

    Foles and Bradford are interesting comparisons, but to me it amounts to this. Foles is a much better fit in St. Louis than he was in Phil…whereas Bradford is a much better fit in Phil. than Foles was.

    It’s a long story but it amounts to this –>

    Fits for Rams: Bradford, Foles
    Fits for Eagles: Bradford
    Mis-fit for Eagles: Foles

    Kelly, like McD, is a system first offensive guy and he needs a system-fit qb, and Bradford has what he needs.

    The Rams just bend their offense around the skills of the qb, and are far more pragmatic that way than the “system first” types.

    The upshot is, the trade makes perfect sense.

    I’ve said this before but this may be the only win-win qb swap in NFL history.

    .

    #29611
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    I watched the Eagles game and Bradford was very impressive. He even stood in and took another hit–and got up.

    I really don’t believe it is an exaggeration to suggest that IF he stays healthy he will put up MVP type numbers this year.

    I actually have more faith in him staying healthy than most, I think. I just think the 2 knee things were freak non-contact injuries (technically there was contact in each case but the contact wasn’t the issue, it was trying to right his balance with an awkward angle and the leg bending wrong. 70% of knee injuries are non-contact. That was true of J.Long and Palmer too.)

    And I always expected him to play well. Unlike some, I thought he already showed it with the Rams (in those games from 2012-13 where they had BOTH a healthy OL and a running threat). Though of course the Eagles are loaded on offense while the Rams never were, so he will show it more than he did in St. Louis. But IMO it was there.

    HOWEVER, that doesn’t mean I dislike the trade. I fully get the trade. Regardless what I personally think of the injury issues, the Rams were in a position to calculate risks. They could not keep him because the odds do not look good. Phil was in a much better position to risk those odds.

    Foles and Bradford are interesting comparisons, but to me it amounts to this. Foles is a much better fit in St. Louis than he was in Phil…whereas Bradford is a much better fit in Phil. than Foles was.

    It’s a long story but it amounts to this –>

    Fits for Rams: Bradford, Foles
    Fits for Eagles: Bradford
    Mis-fit for Eagles: Foles

    Kelly, like McD, is a system first offensive guy and he needs a system-fit qb, and Bradford has what he needs.

    The Rams just bend their offense around the skills of the qb, and are far more pragmatic that way than the “system first” types.

    The upshot is, the trade makes perfect sense.

    I’ve said this before but this may be the only win-win qb swap in NFL history.

    .

    Yeah, all that and we got a 2cd round pick. I remember the popular opinion at the start of last year was that we should just cut Bradford because of his salary cap hit. Well, all we needed to do was convert Quinn’s roster bonus to a prorated bonus and we would be precisely where we are now in relation to the cap. We would have been 2 million short in 2016, 17, 18, and 19, but our cap space of 4.6 this year would have been the same.

    Agamemnon

    #29631
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    you just know. now that he’s left the rams. bradford is finally going to have that breakout season everyone has anticipated for years.

    #29634
    Avatar photojoemad
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    I just watched the 1st quarter of the Eagles Packer preseason game. Bradford looks as good as he did right before he got hurt in Carolina.

    I’m still stung about the trade

    #29635
    bnw
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    Two ACLs to the same knee in 10 months. I like the trade.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #29714
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    from off the net

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    RamFan503

    It is not a read option that Chip is running in Philly. Quick reads – yes. But the definition of read option is that the QB always has the option to run the ball as he did with Mariota. Clearly, the Iggles are not going to be running Sam out of the backfield. There will be a lot of shotgun play action and quick passes. Sam is VERY good at hiding the ball so he will likely be very successful if he can do what he has had the most difficult time doing and that is stay on the field.

    I will say though for those who think he is running the UofO offense, Demarco Murray is pretty far from his prototypical RB for Oregon. He had mostly small slasher type backs like LaMichael and Kenjon. The NFL version of his offense is much less centered on gadgets and tricks.

    What it appears Chip is doing is utilizing a smart QB that can do quick reads and disguise hand offs. Sam is very accurate, has a fast trigger, and is getting better at reading defenses.

    I had my doubts on Chip in the NFL. But I think he has tweaked his system and now pulled in the types of players to make it work. Is it going to work against playoff teams? I still have my doubts. But Sam has an opportunity to put up some gaudy numbers and if the defense is decent, that should result in a lot of wins.

    #29756
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    Eagles’ Sam Bradford eager to start

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20150902_Eagles__Sam_Bradford_eager_to_start.html#SibofiJic1JzeGH2.99

    SAM BRADFORD is less than two weeks away from playing in his first NFL regular-season game in nearly two years.

    I was curious what he is feeling right now as he tries to move on from back-to-back ACL tears and the back-to-back rehabs that accompanied them. Excitement? Relief? Worry? Cautious optimism?

    “It’s nothing but excitement for me,” Bradford said yesterday. “I’ve been excited this whole preseason. Excited just to get back on the field. I was excited for Baltimore and I was even more excited to be out there for Green Bay for three series. I’m just looking forward to it, to be honest.”

    There’s a lot for Bradford to be excited about, and not just the fact that he’s healthy again.

    He has the keys to one of the league’s most explosive offenses. An offense that reminds him an awful lot of the talent-rich one he quarterbacked at Oklahoma in 2008, when he threw 50 touchdown passes, won the Heisman Trophy and led the Sooners to the BCS title game.

    “It’s a similar mindset [to that team] in that we have playmakers all over the field, and my job as quarterback is simply to distribute and get them the ball and let them make plays in space,” he said.

    “It’s really comforting as a quarterback when you look out there and all five of your receiving options are really good players and have the ability to turn a 5- or 6-yard completion into a 60-yard touchdown.”

    Bradford gave Eagles fans a glimpse of just what is possible Saturday night against the Packers. He played only three series and engineered three touchdown drives that consumed only 18 plays and ate up less than 7 minutes off the clock.

    He attempted 10 passes, completing all 10 to six different receivers, three for touchdowns.

    Coach Chip Kelly traded for Bradford because he fits his spread-tempo offense like a Roberto Cavalli dress fits Jennifer Lopez. He ran tempo at Oklahoma. He thrived in tempo because he can process information faster than a MacBook Air and is an exceptional decision-maker.

    “The concepts aren’t quite the same as what we were doing in Oklahoma,” Bradford said. “We were spread [like the Eagles]. We were no-huddle [like the Eagles]. But we played a lot in ’21’ personnel [two running backs, one tight end), ’12’ personnel [one back, two tight ends), ’13’ personnel [one back, three tight ends]. Whereas here it’s primarily ’11’ [one back, one tight end, three wide receivers), with some ’20’ (two backs, no tight ends, three wide receivers) and ’12’ sprinkled in.

    “But the tempo is very similar. When we were out there against Green Bay and we were rolling and got things moving, it felt very similar to being back in college and just going.

    “I think the greatest thing about tempo too, when you’re playing fast, is you don’t have time to think. You’re just out there and you’re just reacting and you’re just having fun. You’re just playing.”

    After spending the first five seasons of his career with a speed-challenged offense in St. Louis, after battling back from those back-to-back ACL tears, Bradford is overdue for some fun.

    A year ago, after tearing it for the second time in 10 months in the Rams’ third preseason game, a devastated Bradford wasn’t sure he had the willpower to endure another long rehab, to stage yet another comeback.

    “It was hard,” he said. “I think the most frustrating thing was that I really felt that the last couple of games before I got hurt [the first time] and then [again] last preseason, I felt I was playing as well as I had ever played.

    “I felt I was seeing things really well and the ball was coming out quick and was coming out clean. I mean, I just felt really good. To get back and feel you’re in a good place, to feel healthy, feel normal again, and then to have to start over again, it was tough.

    “Was I ever serious about retiring or quitting? Probably not. I think the thought initially enters your mind that I can’t do this again. But I don’t think it took but two days for me to realize I was coming back and I was going to give it another go.”

    If he needed a push, he got it less than a week after last summer’s injury when Josh Heupel, who was Bradford’s quarterbacks coach at Oklahoma and now is the assistant head coach and offensive coordinator at Utah State, called him.

    Bradford has called it a phone call he’ll never forget. “Josh probably had been as influential or as important to me as anybody other than my dad in my football career,” he said. “Just talking to him and just hearing someone else who has belief in you and who still believes the best is still ahead of you, it just meant a lot to me to hear that from someone other than my mom and my dad and my girlfriend.

    “I was sitting on the steps in front of my place and talking to him. It was kind of just one of those moments where after I got off the phone with him, it was like, ‘OK, I’m back.’ ”

    The only question after that was where “back” was going to be. Rams coach Jeff Fisher didn’t want to trade Bradford. Hell, he was the reason Fisher took the Rams’ head-coaching job in 2012 in the first place.

    But after three straight losing seasons, Fisher’s job security is a bit tenuous. He couldn’t afford to take a chance that Bradford’s knee would fail him a third time.

    Enter Kelly, who does have job security and was willing to roll the dice for the opportunity to get a guy he believes is a franchise quarterback.

    “The hardest part about it was I had developed some relationships there [in St. Louis] with some people that meant, and still mean, a lot to me, and who I’m still in contact with,” Bradford said. “It was really hard, especially those first couple of days [after the trade] to realize I wasn’t going to go to work and see those people every day again.

    “But at the same time, from a football perspective, I was nothing but excited. When you have the opportunity to come to an organization that has had the success that this organization has had and that values winning the way they do, I mean, I don’t know how you can ask for much more.”

    #29768
    Avatar photojoemad
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    you’re on the FF draft clock…… you need a QB…Big Ben, Flat balls, Flacco, A-Rod are taken….. Foles or Bradford? No brainer……

    I haven’t been this shocked since the Dickerson trade on Halloween….

    #29770
    PA Ram
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    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

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