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ModeratorHow important is it to have a really good WR2 in today’s NFL?
“I think it's absolutely critical. With the way defenses play now it becomes easier to bracket a number one receiver within the context of your defensive structure.”@GregCosell on latest @RossTuckerPod: pic.twitter.com/aG3iBg5LSg
— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) March 18, 2025
March 19, 2025 at 7:59 am in reply to: mid-March, 1st FA wave over, assessments + 2nd wave of signings & extensions #155599zn
ModeratorJim Youngblood 53@53_jim70721
I doubt Landman is a 3-down LBer, unless he improves his pass rush stuff … but as a 240-pound MIKE-type, I think he’s going to help the run defense and maybe he’ll continue to force fumbles ..March 19, 2025 at 7:46 am in reply to: a late start…time for the thread on Trump atrocities, or “Trumpocities” #155598zn
ModeratorThey removed the web page for Ira Hayes, one of the Marines who raised the flag on Iwo Jima. pic.twitter.com/dqIqqpluIW
— 🇺🇸Jerry Mander🇺🇦 (@realpublicius) March 18, 2025
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ModeratorThey do the Rams at 4:58 in.
March 18, 2025 at 6:37 pm in reply to: mid-March, 1st FA wave over, assessments + 2nd wave of signings & extensions #155594zn
ModeratorWho is Nate Landman?
from Lance Zierlein: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/nate-landman/32004c41-4e10-8404-7773-9eee03d2b855
Colorado
Height
6’ 2 1/2’’
Weight
238 lbsOverview
Four-year starter with excellent intangibles but below-average positional traits. Landman’s best seasons were in 2018 and 2019 but his Achilles tear in 2020 hurt his momentum and his 2021 tape was very average prior to suffering a shoulder injury. The lack of flow quickness and agility prevents him from consistently acting upon what his eyes tell him. Landman’s inconsistencies with coverage and tackling further hinder his chances of making an NFL roster.
Strengths
Team captain.
Sets the front and gets teammates lined up.
Good ability to key and diagnose the blocking scheme.
Steps downhill into leveraged positioning in the gap.
Peeks past incoming block to read play development.
Possesses the temperament teams look for inside.
Reads and darts into passing lanes in spot drops.Weaknesses
Below-average athleticism and pursuit speed.
Unable to flow quickly enough to stay ahead of blockers.
Change-of-direction quickness is lacking.
Needs better pop to take on and stack up the block.
Fails to come to balance quickly enough as pursuit tackler.
Lack of agility and length limits open-field tackling success.
Will need to come off field on passing downs.
Suffered an Achilles tear in 2020.March 18, 2025 at 6:12 pm in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155592zn
ModeratorBut it makes me wonder who 159 was.
And 140.
159 is Tommy Tremble, CAR TE
There was no 140 because of ties, they counted 2 141s. And the other 141 was Deebo.
In 2024…
Adams was 15
Nacua was 19
Atwell was 37
Robinson was 77
Johnson was 115
Parkinson was 120
Kupp as mentioned was 141March 18, 2025 at 10:25 am in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155584zn
Moderatoryeah. they’re the same age but injuries have clearly got the best of kupp. i love kupp, and it was a bummer to see, but this one you could see a mile away.
141 out of 159 is not what you want in your #2 wideout. That’s not good enough for your #3 WR.
But it makes me wonder who 159 was.
March 18, 2025 at 10:23 am in reply to: mid-March, 1st FA wave over, assessments + 2nd wave of signings & extensions #155583zn
ModeratorJust to be absolutely clear, I am not complaining about the Rams’ drafting ability.
I know. I was just grabbing a chance to type it up.
March 18, 2025 at 3:26 am in reply to: mid-March, 1st FA wave over, assessments + 2nd wave of signings & extensions #155580zn
ModeratorThey have a hole or 2 to fill but this is already a better team that the one that game just short against the Eagles on the road in the snow.’
Adams and Ford are good signings. They are set up to draft well. This will be a better team than the one that took the division last year.
Last year they got solid to great contributions from 6 draft picks: Verse, Fiske, Kinchens, Karty, Limmer, and Whittington (ie. with Whitt it was not just on offense, on different special teams units too). That includes the defensive rookie of the year.
In the last 3 drafts combined they had 9 6th round picks. Usually the hit rate on round 6 is anywhere from 2% to 8.84%, depending on your source. That means that 9 6th round picks should yield at best 1 player. But of out of those 9 Rams picks I would say so far that we know the Rams hit on 5: Lake (2022), Ethan Evans (2023), and 3 from 2024: Whittington, Karty, & Limmer. That’s a 55.6% hit rate. They have 4 more 6th round picks in 2025.
So IMO if they continue this good streak drafting, they ought to come up with 4-5 players, ie. counting
both immediate and depth/future contributors. As a result, the 2025 team could be even better than we already know it is.And now that they’re set at P and K, they can focus on drafting a long-snapper.
Even if you discount the kickers and make it just 7 picks, that’s still 3 “hits” in round 6 out of 7 picks, which is 42.8%, which is 5 times the normal hit percentage.
Meanwhile in the last 2 years, after they had a serious re-evaluation of their drafting, they have had 7 hits in rounds 1-3, which now includes 6 starters (Avilla, Turner, Young, Verse, Fiske, Kinchens), or an unbelievable 85.7% hit rate.
If they can keep this up, they will be getting a few more players. Or to be more specific, if the percentages stay the same or close to the same, they will be getting 4-5 starting and/or contributing players out of this draft.
March 17, 2025 at 9:38 pm in reply to: mid-March, 1st FA wave over, assessments + 2nd wave of signings & extensions #155578zn
ModeratorThey have a hole or 2 to fill but this is already a better team that the one that game just short against the Eagles on the road in the snow.’
Adams and Ford are good signings. They are set up to draft well. This will be a better team than the one that took the division last year.
Last year they got solid to great contributions from 6 draft picks: Verse, Fiske, Kinchens, Karty, Limmer, and Whittington (ie. with Whitt it was not just on offense, on different special teams units too). That includes the defensive rookie of the year.
In the last 3 drafts combined they had 9 6th round picks. Usually the hit rate on round 6 is anywhere from 2% to 8.84%, depending on your source. That means that 9 6th round picks should yield at best 1 player. But of out of those 9 Rams picks I would say so far that we know the Rams hit on 5: Lake (2022), Ethan Evans (2023), and 3 from 2024: Whittington, Karty, & Limmer. That’s a 55.6% hit rate. They have 4 more 6th round picks in 2025.
So IMO if they continue this good streak drafting, they ought to come up with 4-5 players, ie. counting
both immediate and depth/future contributors. As a result, the 2025 team could be even better than we already know it is.March 17, 2025 at 4:31 pm in reply to: mid-March, 1st FA wave over, assessments + 2nd wave of signings & extensions #155570zn
Moderatorfrom PFF, 2025 NFL Free Agency: 5 best value signings –https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-free-agency-5-best-value-signings-2025?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhtwitter&utm_content=null
T Alaric Jackson re-signs with Los Angeles Rams
Jackson’s deal is a very slight annual overpay but locking up their starting left tackle for three more years was the right move for the Rams. His 79.2 PFF pass-blocking grade ranked 22nd among all offensive tackles last season.
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ModeratorLet’s hear your pick! ⬇️🤝 pic.twitter.com/DeIEu8oE3v
— FOX Sports: NFL (@NFLonFOX) March 17, 2025
March 17, 2025 at 3:00 pm in reply to: a late start…time for the thread on Trump atrocities, or “Trumpocities” #155568zn
ModeratorMarch 17, 2025 at 7:24 am in reply to: a late start…time for the thread on Trump atrocities, or “Trumpocities” #155565zn
ModeratorKrystal Ball@krystalball
ICE relentlessly pursued this Fulbright scholar and forced her to flee the country because she had liked some pro-Palestine posts and signed onto a letter calling for Palestinian liberation.Even the most basic expressions of support for Palestinian human rights or critique of Israel can make you a target for destruction by the Trump regime.
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ModeratorAndrew Brandt@AndrewBrandt
I would hope Eagles success, Bengals’ signings, etc would help lose the false narrative that teams paying top-of-market QBs can’t have superior talent around them due to Cap.
Never been the case.
Most teams have roughly 60% of roster on rookie contracts; built-in Cap balancer.Andrew Brandt@AndrewBrandt
I would hope Eagles success, Bengals’ signings, etc would help lose the false narrative that teams paying top-of-market QBs can’t have superior talent around them due to Cap.
Never been the case.
Most teams have roughly 60% of roster on rookie contracts; built-in Cap balancer.zn
ModeratorDid you know Rams hold the NFL record for most points scored in a single quarter? 1980 against the Green Bay Packers, in the 2nd quarter.. 😳 pic.twitter.com/nQvu8of8zj
— Rams Tapes 🇵🇷 (@RamsTapes) March 17, 2025
March 16, 2025 at 10:21 pm in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155562zn
ModeratorThe Athletic’s Ted Nguyen went a step further and contended that the addition of Adams made the Rams receiving corps one of the most-improved units in the NFL through the first week of free agency. Although it was just one move — and the Rams lost Kupp, Demarcus Robinson and Tyler Johnson, Adams’ presence alongside Puka Nacua gives Los Angeles a sensational one-two punch at receiver.
From Nguyen:
“Adams struggled with drops last season, but he’s still a destroyer of man coverage. Last season, he ranked 12th in yards per route run against man coverage (2.69) while dropping 14.8 percent of his passes against man coverage (fourth-highest among receivers with at least 30 targets). Adams typically has very reliable hands, so this was an outlier season. If his drop rate regresses to the mean, he can still produce a high level in his most stable situation in years.
“Puka Nacua might be the best receiver Adams has ever played with, so Adams will theoretically see his lowest rate of double-teams since the beginning of his career. With coach Sean McVay’s play calling and Matthew Stafford’s arm talent, Adams looks to be set up for a rebound season. The Rams’ offense hasn’t had this sort of threat on the outside since Odell Beckham Jr. joined the team midseason in 2021 when L.A. won the Super Bowl.”
March 16, 2025 at 10:19 pm in reply to: a late start…time for the thread on Trump atrocities, or “Trumpocities” #155561zn
ModeratorNicholas Kristof@NickKristof
Elon Musk says that no one has died because he slashed humanitarian aid. I went to South Sudan to check if that’s true. It’s not. Within an hour of starting interviews, I had the names of a 10-year-old boy and an 8-year-old girl who had died because of decisions by wealthy men in Washington.
The visit that moved me the most was to a remote area that used to have no health care, where women routinely died in childbirth. Then a US-funded maternity clinic opened through
@UNFPA
in December, and not one woman has died since. I showed up, and people mistakenly thought I was responsible for the clinic. One new mom wanted to name her baby for me, and the village elders thanked me and hailed America’s generosity. What they didn’t know was that Trump/Musk had cut all funding for UNFPA and that as a result the maternity clinic will close this month, and women will once again be bleeding to death in the dust.
Here’s a giftlink to my report from ground level about what the shutdown of USAID means: https://nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/15/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts-impact.html?unlocked_article_code=1.4E4.H8Lx.GD39rucUfloD&smid=url-sharezn
ModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
Coleman Shelton can have an outsized impact on the 2025 Rams offense. Glad to see him back in Royal & Sol.Rams moves this week did wonders to open up their Draft possibilities. Can very much let it come to them in April. I’m not sure there’s a position group I’d rule out? … but no dire needs (go ahead and reply with iLB), which is a great place to be more than a month out.
Cornerback? They’ll absolutely be adding to this room. But multiple starters in house. DWill, Cobie, DK coming back, and some undrafted rookies from ‘24 they like.
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Moderatorfrom Predicting where 20 second-wave 2025 NFL free agents will sign: https://theramswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2025/03/15/2025-nfl-free-agency-predicting-teams-for-20-second-wave-players/82446435007/
ILB C.J. Mosley: Los Angeles Rams
Mosley is the kind of veteran leader in the middle of the defense who could help a Rams team trying to contend for a championship. He could immediately slot in next to Omar Speights at linebacker.
March 16, 2025 at 6:43 pm in reply to: a late start…time for the thread on Trump atrocities, or “Trumpocities” #155558zn
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Moderator“Kupp’s a hard guy to figure…I don't think he looks the same…When your legs start to go, it's always hard to know what a player has left.”@GregCosell on new Seahawks WR Cooper Kupp: pic.twitter.com/047wfK1shI
— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) March 15, 2025
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ModeratorRams Wire@TheRamsWire
The Rams are keeping Ronnie Rivers, their No. 3 running back last season, with a 1-year dealzn
ModeratorI moved a few posts to a new thread: mid-march draft thread https://theramshuddle.com/topic/mid-march-draft-thread/
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ModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
The Rams say they have agreed to terms with RB and core special teamer Ronnie Rivers. Per source, it’s a one-year deal.zn
Moderatorfrom https://www.lafbnetwork.com/nfl/la-rams/la-rams-rumors/nfl-rumors-los-angeles-rams-offseason-splash/
Senior NFL reporter Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports shared on Friday’s Inside Coverage podcast that he believes the Rams aren’t done making moves this offseason. He also cited the signings of Ford and Adams giving Los Angeles more flexibility in the 2025 NFL Draft.
“I honestly don’t think the Rams are done either…I actually like how he (Davante Adams) fits with Puka. Then you bring Tutu Atwell back on a one-year deal, what that tells me is they’re probably going to address wide receiver again, probably in the draft at some point. Maybe early in the draft, I don’t think they’re done adding to that offense but they give themselves flexibility.”
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ModeratorA- Free Agency for the Los Angeles Rams 🐏 pic.twitter.com/x1weo1ApsE
— PFF (@PFF) March 15, 2025
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ModeratorMy humble submissions…
There’s elements missing. So I don’t think they qualify.
1. Must be late in a post-season game.
2. Must be a close game.
3. The play in question has a do-or-die, absolute game deciding effect.
4. Must lead–either immediately or in that post-season–to a super bowl win.
5. I, zn, must agree with the choice.There is another, lower, less demanding tier of plays that have much less strict criteria. In fact they don’t even always have to result in a win. In this next tier down, the play is named after the player. The key here is that when they are named, every Rams fan automatically knows the play–no further explaining needed.
Examples:
Ferragamo to Waddy.
Faulk against the Browns in 99.
Faulk stands Hakim up.
Donald beats the Bengals on the final play.
Donald strip sacks Mahomes.When Aaron Donald sealed the game in Super Bowl 56 🏆 pic.twitter.com/tiexyHFwSx
— Football’s Greatest Moments (@FBGreatMoments) March 15, 2025
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ModeratorAlso had one of the Rams alltime great plays. The 4th down run. Its up there with the Ricky Proehl catch.
So as Rams fans we have–
the catch
the tackle
the 4th n 1
We need a run that is “the run.”
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Moderatorit’ll be interesting to see what the rams do in the draft. do they try to complement nacua and adams with a third receiver and try to recreate the woods, kupp, obj trio? that’d be wild.
I think they wanted Adams because he complements Nacua better than Kupp, plus Kupp missed 19 games in the last 3 seasons while also being the 2nd highest cap hit on the team. I doubt Kupp could play a whole season again on the Rams really bad, hard home turf at Sofi.
No Rams fan will forget the best of Kupp, though, including being the only weapon Stafford had to finish their super bowl winning game. We all have the great memory of the Rams final drive when they took over down 16-20 in the 4th quarter, and on that drive Kupp caught 4 for 39 yards and a TD, plus converted the crucial 4th and 1 on a 7 yard run.
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